Cause of Brenda Leyland's Death Inconclusive

by sallypelt 08.10.14 14:20

An inquest at Leicester Coroner's Court was told a post-mortem examination conducted yesterday had failed to establish the cause of Brenda Leyland's death.

The body of Mrs Leyland, 63, was discovered in a Leicester hotel room last Saturday, two days after she featured in a Sky News report exposing internet "trolling" of Kate and Gerry McCann.

Opening the inquest, Leicester Coroner Catherine Mason was told there was no evidence of foul play or third party involvement in the death.

Police Sergeant Kevin Taylor told the coroner he was informed that Mrs Leyland was dead after being sent to the Marriott Hotel in Enderby.

The officer said: "At the scene I was joined by another officer and a county ambulance first responder unit.

"I was then informed by the paramedic and the other officer that there was a deceased female within the room."

Sgt Taylor added that officers were awaiting the results of additional post-mortem tests and were still undertaking inquiries into the death.

Adjourning the inquest until December 18, Mrs Mason said: "It's quite clear from the evidence before me that I am not in a position to conclude (the inquest) today.

"The cause of death is still not known and police inquiries are rightly ongoing.

"Therefore, with the sergeant still tasked to complete the police inquiries and the pathologist still to provide a cause of death, I am adjourning the inquest."

Mrs Leyland, from Burton Overy, Leicestershire, is reported to have posted thousands of messages on Twitter attacking the McCanns, whose daughter Madeleine disappeared in Portugal in 2007.

Officers from Leicestershire Police, who are not treating the death as suspicious, were alerted to the discovery of Ms Leyland's body at 1.42pm on Saturday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/pa/article-2784499/Inquest-open-McCann-troll.html

by Guest 08.10.14 14:22

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say what?

by Dont Make Me Laff 08.10.14 14:27

http://news.sky.com/story/1349512/inquest-opens-into-brenda-leyland-death

Inconclusive?
No foul play?

by Guest 08.10.14 14:29

So not hanged then?

How can they rule out foul play?

by sallypelt 08.10.14 14:31

Dont Make Me Laff wrote:http://news.sky.com/story/1349512/inquest-opens-into-brenda-leyland-death

Inconclusive?
No foul play?

From my experience with inquests, DMML, is, that when a person commits suicide by taking pills, there won't be a decision until they have toxicology reports, and this can take a few weeks. However, it was said in one newspaper that BL had been found hanged, so anyone's guess is as good as mine as to how she died.

by bobbin 08.10.14 14:34

BlueBag wrote:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say what?

So first media reports claimed she had hanged herself. Yet hanging does not seem to have been the cause of death.

by Joss 08.10.14 14:38

bobbin wrote:
BlueBag wrote:!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Say what?
So first media reports claimed she had hanged herself. Yet hanging does not seem to have been the cause of death.

Not sure what to make of it all?

by Tangled Web 08.10.14 14:42

If the cause of death is inconclusive, how can anything else (such as foul play) be completely ruled out???

I feel for the family. More waiting for them, not knowing how she died.

RIP Brenda sad1

by tiny 08.10.14 14:47

Told you so,Brenda Leylands death caused by brunt and trolls will be swept under the carpet

by Guest 08.10.14 14:58

Just a note on COD,a close relative has recently passed away despite it having all the hallmarks of an heart attack a post mortem could not determine the cause, tissue from their heart and lungs have been sent away for further analysis.

Should add its not a suspicious death in this case.

by thetruthbeknown 08.10.14 14:58

Its par course for a death not by natural causes to be adjourned pending investigations.

by Snifferdog 08.10.14 15:03

From Sallypelts post:

Police Sergeant Kevin Taylor told the coroner he was informed that Mrs Leyland was dead after being sent to the Marriott Hotel in Enderby.

##############

Who sent Brenda to the Marriot Hotel?

...and a few why's...

Why has Jacinta Saldahnas inquest not been completed yet?
Why was her family not allowed to see, never mind take possession of her so called suicide note, and were only allowed copies?
Why was the death of a teenaged girl, whose body was found in the grounds of Balmoral castle, not being properly investigated?

by Joss 08.10.14 15:06

Sometimes an autopsy report is Inconclusive. In other words the cause of death is not immediately known and the forensic pathologist needs to run additional toxicology tests to determine if other drugs or toxins led to or contributed to the persons death.
Sometimes a forensic pathologist can tell how a person died, for example cardiac arrest, but they need a toxicology report to tell them why a person died.
Toxicology reports are routinely performed in suspicious deaths where law enforcement is involved but they are not seen as frequently in hospital autopsies where a person dies in hospital and the family requests an autopsy.

Read more : http://www.ehow.com/about_6118708_autopsy-report-vs_-toxicology-report.html

by Woofer 08.10.14 15:12

Snifferdog wrote:From Sallypelts post:

Police Sergeant Kevin Taylor told the coroner he was informed that Mrs Leyland was dead after being sent to the Marriott Hotel in Enderby.

##############

Who sent Brenda to the Marriot Hotel?

...and a few why's...

Why has Jacinta Saldahnas inquest not been completed yet?
Why was her family not allowed to see, never mind take possession of her so called suicide note, and were only allowed copies?
Why was the death of a teenaged girl, whose body was found in the grounds of Balmoral castle, not being properly investigated?

I think it means Kevin Taylor was sent. They`re saying no third party involved. Mind you that doesn`t cancel out a second party.

by Tigerlily 08.10.14 15:14

Snifferdog wrote:From Sallypelts post:

Police Sergeant Kevin Taylor told the coroner he was informed that Mrs Leyland was dead after being sent to the Marriott Hotel in Enderby.

##############

Who sent Brenda to the Marriot Hotel?

...and a few why's...

Why has Jacinta Saldahnas inquest not been completed yet?
Why was her family not allowed to see, never mind take possession of her so called suicide note, and were only allowed copies?
Why was the death of a teenaged girl, whose body was found in the grounds of Balmoral castle, not being properly investigated?

I think that means the police officer was saying HE was sent to the hotel - that's how I understood it anyway....

by Joss 08.10.14 15:16

Woofer wrote:
Snifferdog wrote:From Sallypelts post:

Police Sergeant Kevin Taylor told the coroner he was informed that Mrs Leyland was dead after being sent to the Marriott Hotel in Enderby.

##############

Who sent Brenda to the Marriot Hotel?

...and a few why's...

Why has Jacinta Saldahnas inquest not been completed yet?
Why was her family not allowed to see, never mind take possession of her so called suicide note, and were only allowed copies?
Why was the death of a teenaged girl, whose body was found in the grounds of Balmoral castle, not being properly investigated?
I think it means Kevin Taylor was sent. They`re saying no third party involved. Mind you that doesn`t cancel out a second party.

Exactly. The way it reads sounds as if someone else could have been involved? Otherwise wouldn't it say no one else has yet been found to be involved with Ms Leyland's death??

by thetruthbeknown 08.10.14 16:03

Local news report:

Sgt Taylor confirmed that a postmortem examination had taken place yesterday, but no cause of death had been determined and the results were not yet complete.
He also said that police inquires had not yet been concluded.
Coroner Catherine Mason asked if foul play had been involved, to which Sgt Taylor replied: “There did not appear to be. No.”
The inquest has been adjourned until December 18.

by Seek truth 08.10.14 16:07

Bring in the dogs again.

by juliet 08.10.14 16:08

It is noticeable that Jacinta's family is never allowed near the media without Keith Vaz right in amongst them. Jacinta's death was highly suspicious. Like Brenda, she was supposed to have killed herself after an "embarrassing" incident which had been set up in an odd fashion.

by Guest 08.10.14 16:22

The nurse's inquest was eventually held.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t6077p100-royal-prank-call-nurse-commits-suicide#283414

by Versailles 08.10.14 16:28

Wasn't it the same when Peaches Geldof died? We now know she was found with syringes and heroin, but the police claimed there was no apparent cause of death?

by Joss 08.10.14 16:30

I think in the event of an Inconclusive cause of death it usually follows that an Inquest is held, but not positive on that.

by Guest 08.10.14 16:31

Yes that's true, Versailles. The same applied to Amy Winehouse.

The causes of death were not known for several weeks until after the results of toxicology tests.

by Joss 08.10.14 16:33

Versailles wrote:Wasn't it the same when Peaches Geldof died? We now know she was found with syringes and heroin, but the police claimed there was no apparent cause of death?

Yes, apparently, Peaches Geldof, Rick Mayall & Heath Ledgers deaths were all found to be Inconclusive.

by juliet 08.10.14 16:36

Versailles, it turned out that the police lied about Peaches Geldof, saying there was no sign of drugs paraphernalia when it later turned out there were drugs everywhere.

by SixMillionQuid 08.10.14 16:44

She was still forced to leave her home following the visit. And during that visit she was caught by surprise when told a dossier about her was handed to the police. What happened when Mr Brunt was invited to her home only he can answer and possibly his boss. The news forced her to go somewhere we she would not normally go. So as far as I'm concerned SKY news can't just spin their way out of this one.

by Joss 08.10.14 16:50

SixMillionQuid wrote:She was still forced to leave her home following the visit. And during that visit she was caught by surprise when told a dossier about her was handed to the police. What happened when Mr Brunt was invited to her home only he can answer and possibly his boss. The news forced her to go somewhere we she would not normally go. So as far as I'm concerned SKY news can't just spin their way out of this one.

Yes they sure did, and placed Brenda in a horrible situation. They need to be held to task over it. I still really want to know Why they picked Brenda Leyland for their target?

by Lance De Boils 08.10.14 16:54

So where did the 'hanged' come from?
I would have thought that if poor Brenda did hang herself, this would be quite an easy cause of death to establish from a post mortem exam.

by **PeterMac** 08.10.14 16:54

SixMillionQuid wrote:She was still forced to leave her home following the visit. And during that visit she was caught by surprise when told a dossier about her was handed to the police. What happened when Mr Brunt was invited to her home only he can answer and possibly his boss. The news forced her to go somewhere we she would not normally go. So as far as I'm concerned SKY news can't just spin their way out of this one.

There was also a camera-person and probably a sound person, who are likely to have been invited in at the same time. And given the gentle way in which she was dealing with them I canot imagine they would not, since Sky were after a scoop,
So he may have a problem on his hands if he tries too hard to "spin". Two other witnesses, and possibly a tape . . .

Unless there are two regrettable acidents in the next couple of days,
Daily Star reports "Man chokes on his own microphone" "Man garotted by recording tape in freak Video camera malfunction"

by MRNOODLES 08.10.14 16:55

Joss wrote:
SixMillionQuid wrote:She was still forced to leave her home following the visit. And during that visit she was caught by surprise when told a dossier about her was handed to the police. What happened when Mr Brunt was invited to her home only he can answer and possibly his boss. The news forced her to go somewhere we she would not normally go. So as far as I'm concerned SKY news can't just spin their way out of this one.
Yes they sure did, and placed Brenda in a horrible situation. They need to be held to task over it. I still really want to know Why they picked Brenda Leyland for their target?

Because she was an easy soft target, a 63 year old lady. Rather than a 6ft+ young male.

IMO