The Peoples Voice.

by delly55 10.11.13 16:56

Just wondered if people were aware of this new channel that Icke and others have launched. It's going to be dealing with the very important things that the mainstream media seem only too eager to shy away from. Keith Allen and the journalist Sonia Poulton are involved in it amongst others, and Poulton mentions that they are going to be covering the Madeleine McCann case in a way that the media has so far failed to do.

http://thepeoplesvoice.tv

by **tigger** 10.11.13 19:14

It sounds interesting but Icke thinks Maddie was abducted to order.

We'll wait and see! pray2

by ProfessorPPlum 10.11.13 23:29

How cynical - the first thing you see is a 'donate' button. Always about money.

by ekatae 10.11.13 23:32

What can one say... The heights people go to....!

by chillyheat 10.11.13 23:36

ProfessorPPlum wrote:How cynical - the first thing you see is a 'donate' button. Always about money.

The People's Voice has been established to balance mainstream media bias which refuses to give voice to people with views at odds with mainstream thinking and belief. You can expect to hear all aspects of mainstream society questioned and debated. What viewers choose to accept or believe is for them to decide after hearing the evidence and opinion broadcast by The People's Voice and the information and opinion broadcast by mainstream sources.

£1 PER MONTH......£1
Its something......

by jd 11.11.13 0:12

ProfessorPPlum wrote:How cynical - the first thing you see is a 'donate' button. Always about money.

You've just shown yourself up with that comment

by Who?What?Where? 11.11.13 0:38

I have to admit, that I have been sceptical of David Icke, even when he was a television presenter.

I do think, that, in recent years, he does seem to talk some commonsense.

One of the thing's that concerned me about his writing's, was about the reptile's, that he believes, control this planet. I just could not see it. It seemed ridiculous, to me.

Now, I have seen the mccann case, and it makes more sense.

Reptile's, seem to care care for their offspring, up to a point, and then abandon them, at an early age, to their own fate, which leaves the parent's to then get on with their own lives.

Is that really Human behaviour? I don't think so.

How very tapas9 does that seem? How very public, boarding, school system,is that level of thinking?

I do wonder, sometimes.

For instance, how many people, who present, or have presented, programmes for the bbc, itv or ch4, went to public boarding schools?

by delly55 11.11.13 8:53

The simple truth is that they cannot stay on air without donations. I have no problem at all giving a couple of pounds to a channel that is trying to fight back against the mainstream media bullshit that gets churned out! I wish them every success, we need more not less of this kind of thing imo!

by Veritas 11.11.13 14:11

Icke is trying to appear credible by association with people who are more credible than him. His problem is that you can have all the credible research, you can have the biggest archive, you can make the most noise and you can be 98% correct, but that 2% where there the conslusion gets drawn is where he's more adrift than the Marie Celeste. Its the reason why so many credible investigative journalists cringe at the mention of his name. He's made conspiracy theory populist... He can lead you to British establishment cover ups, to assasinations, to media deceptions, and even to the doors of the BiLderbergs and the heart of the new world order itself. But then when asked 'why?' if his retort is 'because they' re reptilians from Sirius and they seek to enslave humanity' then frankly both he, and the deluded goons who follow him, are acting albeit unknowingly as agents of the discreditation of the credible part of their speculations and investigations. Which insidious world demagogues WOULDN'T want Icke to be the loudest voice in the media. Him and Russell Brand will make a good double act. Add David Shayler for an unholy trinity of alternative media. s

by MrsC 11.11.13 14:29

tigger wrote:It sounds interesting but Icke thinks Maddie was abducted to order.

We'll wait and see!

Would this be with or without the parents knowledge?

by Veritas 12.11.13 12:27

I spent some time recently with a hugely successful entertainment industry professional from the USA, and he was quotin verbatim from Michael Shrimpton's bizarre allegations. His second favourite source was Icke.

Sheesh.

by Guest 12.11.13 13:00

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t7743-interview-with-barrister-michael-shrimpton?highlight=michael

In case anyone doesn't know about Michael Shrimpton.

by ProfessorPPlum 12.11.13 21:39

jd wrote:
ProfessorPPlum wrote:How cynical - the first thing you see is a 'donate' button. Always about money.
You've just shown yourself up with that comment

You mean I've just shown myself up as thinking David Icke is a nutcase who wants your money?

by Cristobell 12.11.13 21:56

delly55 wrote:The simple truth is that they cannot stay on air without donations. I have no problem at all giving a couple of pounds to a channel that is trying to fight back against the mainstream media bullshit that gets churned out! I wish them every success, we need more not less of this kind of thing imo!

Bravo, well said Delly. clapping

by ProfessorPPlum 12.11.13 22:02

Veritas wrote:[...]
He can lead you to British establishment cover ups, to assasinations, to media deceptions, and even to the doors of the BiLderbergs and the heart of the new world order itself. But then when asked 'why?' [...] his retort is 'because they' re reptilians from Sirius and they seek to enslave humanity'
[...]

by Guest 12.11.13 22:04

David Icke does have his sane moments but when he comes out with remarks like the Queen Mother was a shape-shifting reptile it doesn't help his overall credibility!

by Cristobell 12.11.13 22:22

I can't say I am David Ick's greatest fan, know v.little about him to be honest, but I do trust Sonia Poulton and this case has made it clear that we are in desperate need of an independent news source who can give it to us straight without bullshit. Even though I taught Media (GCSE level), I had no idea how devious and distorted our mainstream news is. I remember how Fox News struggled to find a crowd of cheering Iraqui's as the statue of Sadam Hussain was pulled down, but this case and The Thick of It has opened my eyes to a whole new world.

A truthful news channel? Wouldn't that be something! Those of us who have been around this case from the off, will no doubt smile at the memory of looking towards Portugal for the things our own newspapers weren't telling us. And a huge thanks to Joana Morais, who has been a diamond in the articles and Court updates to us and for kindly translating them. I even remember discussing a story that came to us via Al Jazeera, which I think illustrates just how gagged the UK media has been with this case.

The People's Voice sounds good, I like the name. and if they are prepared to stand up to the McCann Money Making Machine, I applaud them.

by MoonGoddess 12.11.13 22:38

delly55 wrote:The simple truth is that they cannot stay on air without donations. I have no problem at all giving a couple of pounds to a channel that is trying to fight back against the mainstream media bullshit that gets churned out! I wish them every success, we need more not less of this kind of thing imo!

I will willingly pay that anyday, over the compulsory £145.50 per annum to a company that spouts out the establishments news, and is known to protect their own, even if their own happen to be prolific paedophiles.

by Mirage 12.11.13 22:58

MoonGoddess wrote:
delly55 wrote:The simple truth is that they cannot stay on air without donations. I have no problem at all giving a couple of pounds to a channel that is trying to fight back against the mainstream media bullshit that gets churned out! I wish them every success, we need more not less of this kind of thing imo!
I will willingly pay that anyday, over the compulsory £145.50 per annum to a company that spouts out the establishments news, and is known to protect their own, even if their own happen to be prolific paedophiles.

Good point well made MoonGoddess. It comes well un-recommended. I'll give it a whirl. Beats a donation to a fraudulent fund any day.

by Who?What?Where? 13.11.13 1:09

I think that David Icke and his supporters',are just trying to find and comprehend the real truth.

I think that the Mccanns' and their supporters', definitely, do not want the real truth to come out.

That would be disastrous, for their level of thinking. If that happened, the vast majority, may then start to see them , for what they really are.

by delly55 25.11.13 18:09

The south african fella is live on the peoples voice now, talking about Murat.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

by Veritas 25.11.13 18:37

Who?What?Where? wrote:I think that David Icke and his supporters',are just trying to find and comprehend the real truth.

I think that the Mccanns' and their supporters', definitely, do not want the real truth to come out.

That would be disastrous, for their level of thinking. If that happened, the vast majority, may then start to see them , for what they really are.

I can't buy a free pass for the Icke tribe on the basis of sincere truthseeking. The sincere truthseeking is precluded by the batsh1t insane assertions about reptiles and royal families, meaning that the tribe who buy and sell this nonsense are either insane, or liars, and neither is helpful to a "truthseeking " venture because it will always involve an underpinning foundation of either lunacy or lie. b

by Veritas 25.11.13 18:38

delly55 wrote:The south african fella is live on the peoples voice now, talking about Murat.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.tv/watchnow

Cue assortment of moonbats craving television limelight.

by Guest 25.11.13 18:45

I watched with big interest. And there was one line, which stood out for me [non verbatim] Birch:" if the driveway's dug up and she's not there, then she's [may be] alive" ...

by Romario 25.11.13 18:55

tigger wrote:It sounds interesting but Icke thinks Maddie was abducted to order.

We'll wait and see!

Does Icke really think that? If he does then it really depresses me. Personally I had always liked Icke for his intelligence and the solid ideas he spoke of; the stuff about the reptiles I just thought was funny and to be honest, so ridiculously far-fetched and at odds to the rational side of most of his arguments that I felt it didn't especially distract from what he was saying, provided you read his words directly and didn't just hear about him through the MSM who always talked of his most insane ideas. But if he does think that about Maddie then maybe he is just a disinformation merchant after all; and not just a truthseeker who added in little bits of nonsense here and there to gain attention and so satisfy his egotistical cravings.

by Smokeandmirrors 25.11.13 18:59

Châtelaine wrote:I watched with big interest. And there was one line, which stood out for me [non verbatim] Birch:" if the driveway's dug up and she's not there, then she's [may be] alive" ...

After Birch has been ranting about this for a very long time, just suppose one day Jenny Murat sells Casa Liliana, and the new owners dig up the drive immediately and find a childs skeleton, after 10's of millions of pounds spent on fake suspects, the outcry would be phenomenal.

(not that I think M is there, but elimination for the sake of peace and quiet would cost pence)

by jd 25.11.13 19:25

I watched this and Birch does bring up some important points

Theresa May does hold 4 very important documents between the UK and Portuguese governments relating to the mccann case......Why the heck have those not been released? The government are spending millions of taxpayers money but they themselves are withholding important & quite possibly vital information. This is not the action of an honest government nor an honest SY investigation, it is the action of a cover up and imo more focus should be placed on getting these documents released rather than the red herrings from the SY investigation is sending out intended to deflect you away from the truth. The government should release these documents as a matter of course, and the mccanns should be fighting tooth and nail to get them released, they do after all relate to their missing daughter

Even if the 'bones' under Murat's driveway would be a dog or something, surely kate and gerry mccann would want the driveway to be dug up to prove one way or other. After all, they and their tapas friends were accusing Murat of being involved in abducting their daughter (even on May 16th 2007 4 of them giving statements to the PJ categorically stating they saw Murat and implying he is involved) yet they totally dismiss there is something under his drive way! Its much the way the mccanns withheld the Smith sighting information for 5 years and even issued legal threats if this information was leaked....Really, actions of parents trying to find their daughter? Not in the slightest

I was glad Birch brought up how it all changed after the November 2007 meeting. How true this is and all stories changed form this point especially relating to Murat. It is very clear deals were struck at this meeting for the complete turn around of stories relating to Murat and Murat himself seems to have changed sides since too

Relating to the Lisbon treaty is interesting, not something I have fully looked into but interesting and I can see the 'potential' of a theory fitting. How many parents of missing children get a direct hotline to 10 Downing Street after their child has gone missing? I can only think of one, the same couple who have the most unprecedented government and elite support since day 1

by Okeydokey 25.11.13 19:29

Veritas wrote:
Who?What?Where? wrote:I think that David Icke and his supporters',are just trying to find and comprehend the real truth.

I think that the Mccanns' and their supporters', definitely, do not want the real truth to come out.

That would be disastrous, for their level of thinking. If that happened, the vast majority, may then start to see them , for what they really are.
I can't buy a free pass for the Icke tribe on the basis of sincere truthseeking. The sincere truthseeking is precluded by the batsh1t insane assertions about reptiles and royal families, meaning that the tribe who buy and sell this nonsense are either insane, or liars, and neither is helpful to a "truthseeking " venture because it will always involve an underpinning foundation of either lunacy or lie. b

I agree. They should be free to have their say but there is no obligation to accord them any respect as "truthseekers".

by Guest 25.11.13 20:07

jd wrote:I watched this and Birch does bring up some important points

Theresa May does hold 4 very important documents between the UK and Portuguese governments relating to the mccann case......Why the heck have those not been released? [b]How on earth does someone like BIRCH, know these "secret documents exist ??? [/b]The government are spending millions of taxpayers money but they themselves are withholding important & quite possibly vital information.]b] Hmm ..[/b] This is not the action of an honest government nor an honest SY investigation, it is the action of a cover up and imo more focus should be placed on getting these documents released rather than the red herrings from the SY investigation is sending out intended to deflect you away from the truth. I tend to think, that's clever tactics ... The government should release these documents as a matter of course b] On the basis of some South-African's hearsay...?[/b], and the mccanns should be fighting tooth and nail to get them released, they do after all relate to their missing daughter [unlikely, after Kate said, who's this man anyway ...?"]

Even if the 'bones' under Murat's driveway would be a dog or something, surely kate and gerry mccann would want the driveway to be dug up to prove one way or other. After all, they and their tapas friends were accusing Murat of being involved in abducting their daughter (even on May 16th 2007 4 of them giving statements to the PJ categorically stating they saw Murat and implying he is involved) yet they totally dismiss there is something under his drive way! Its much the way the mccanns withheld the Smith sighting information for 5 years and even issued legal threats if this information was leaked....Really, actions of parents trying to find their daughter? Not in the slightest I can only totally agree. They don't look innocent to me at all. IMO,of course

I was glad Birch brought up how it all changed after the November 2007 meeting. How true this is and all stories changed form this point especially relating to Murat. It is very clear deals were struck at this meeting for the complete turn around of stories relating to Murat and Murat himself seems to have changed sides since too

Relating to the Lisbon treaty is interesting, not something I have fully looked into but interesting and I can see the 'potential' of a theory fitting. How many parents of missing children get a direct hotline to 10 Downing Street after their child has gone missing?Clarence Mitchel: It is true that we have requested a meeting with the prime minister to show him the strength of our case, to explain Kate and Gerry's innocence and yet all we've been offered is a medium-level-consular meeting, which we rejected. I can only think of one, the same couple who have the most unprecedented government and elite support since day 1

*** ETA Sorry ... looks like I fooked-up some coulor and bolding, but hope my points are clear ... big grin

by jd 25.11.13 20:32

Châtelaine wrote:
jd wrote:I watched this and Birch does bring up some important points

Theresa May does hold 4 very important documents between the UK and Portuguese governments relating to the mccann case......Why the heck have those not been released? [b]How on earth does someone like BIRCH, know these "secret documents exist ??? [/b]The government are spending millions of taxpayers money but they themselves are withholding important & quite possibly vital information.]b] Hmm ..[/b] This is not the action of an honest government nor an honest SY investigation, it is the action of a cover up and imo more focus should be placed on getting these documents released rather than the red herrings from the SY investigation is sending out intended to deflect you away from the truth. I tend to think, that's clever tactics ... The government should release these documents as a matter of course b] On the basis of some South-African's hearsay...?[/b], and the mccanns should be fighting tooth and nail to get them released, they do after all relate to their missing daughter [unlikely, after Kate said, who's this man anyway ...?"]

Even if the 'bones' under Murat's driveway would be a dog or something, surely kate and gerry mccann would want the driveway to be dug up to prove one way or other. After all, they and their tapas friends were accusing Murat of being involved in abducting their daughter (even on May 16th 2007 4 of them giving statements to the PJ categorically stating they saw Murat and implying he is involved) yet they totally dismiss there is something under his drive way! Its much the way the mccanns withheld the Smith sighting information for 5 years and even issued legal threats if this information was leaked....Really, actions of parents trying to find their daughter? Not in the slightest I can only totally agree. They don't look innocent to me at all. IMO,of course

I was glad Birch brought up how it all changed after the November 2007 meeting. How true this is and all stories changed form this point especially relating to Murat. It is very clear deals were struck at this meeting for the complete turn around of stories relating to Murat and Murat himself seems to have changed sides since too

Relating to the Lisbon treaty is interesting, not something I have fully looked into but interesting and I can see the 'potential' of a theory fitting. How many parents of missing children get a direct hotline to 10 Downing Street after their child has gone missing?Clarence Mitchel: It is true that we have requested a meeting with the prime minister to show him the strength of our case, to explain Kate and Gerry's innocence and yet all we've been offered is a medium-level-consular meeting, which we rejected. I can only think of one, the same couple who have the most unprecedented government and elite support since day 1

*** ETA Sorry ... looks like I fooked-up some coulor and bolding, but hope my points are clear ...

These secret documents were reported in the media last year. This is something I have always raised many times they should be released if this story and SY investigation is true. These documents are so important and in a real true case it makes no sense to withhold them (despite the media spin), unless it is a cover up....."leaving no stone unturned"???
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/259644/Madeleine-McCann-Key-files-into-probe-kept-top-secret-to-avoid-Portugal-row

I don't have much time for Birch personally, but he is very correct in saying that the UK should really be pushing for these documents to be released