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JIM GAMBLE:::::OPERATION ORE
by Jill Havern 06.04.10 23:03
By Metodo 2 (Textusa & Ironside)
Jim Gamble Chief Executive CEOP
Formerly Assistant Chief Constable of the National Crime Squad (Responsible for co-ordinating Operation Ore)
As a direct consequence of the STATEMENTS and DECISIONS of Jim Gamble and associated people, the presumption of innocence was completely disregarded, GUILT, was exaggerated to comply with the demand “ratings” as lynching usually invokes and provokes. The result was that LIVES were endangered and some LOST. Public morals were corrupted and JUSTICE was denied.
Let’s remember that it was CEOP Jim Gamble who profiled Robert Murat and said he is THE MOST LIKELY TO HAVE TAKEN MADELEINE…
Guess from who Gerry McCann got the CEOP manuals not for public use?
OBU Investigators UK took on the challenge and see that Justice is served. It has been a long hard battle. But one worth fighting.
Those that fight for TRUTH and JUSTICE shall prevail. Those that use the names of TRUTH and JUSTICE only deserve the most shameful of defeats.
Finally, the JUSTICE they seek may be about to become a reality. They have a lawyer CHRIS SALTRESE, (do remember this name) you are about to hear a lot more from him. CHRIS has worked Pro Bono to make this day happen.
Permission has been granted to allow the Operation Ore group action test, or specimen, appeal to be heard before the High Court in London.
Hearing in the High Court is to commence on 27th April and 28th April 2010.
Jim Gamble Chief Executive CEOP
Formerly Assistant Chief Constable of the National Crime Squad (Responsible for co-ordinating Operation Ore)
As a direct consequence of the STATEMENTS and DECISIONS of Jim Gamble and associated people, the presumption of innocence was completely disregarded, GUILT, was exaggerated to comply with the demand “ratings” as lynching usually invokes and provokes. The result was that LIVES were endangered and some LOST. Public morals were corrupted and JUSTICE was denied.
Let’s remember that it was CEOP Jim Gamble who profiled Robert Murat and said he is THE MOST LIKELY TO HAVE TAKEN MADELEINE…
Guess from who Gerry McCann got the CEOP manuals not for public use?
OBU Investigators UK took on the challenge and see that Justice is served. It has been a long hard battle. But one worth fighting.
Those that fight for TRUTH and JUSTICE shall prevail. Those that use the names of TRUTH and JUSTICE only deserve the most shameful of defeats.
Finally, the JUSTICE they seek may be about to become a reality. They have a lawyer CHRIS SALTRESE, (do remember this name) you are about to hear a lot more from him. CHRIS has worked Pro Bono to make this day happen.
Permission has been granted to allow the Operation Ore group action test, or specimen, appeal to be heard before the High Court in London.
Hearing in the High Court is to commence on 27th April and 28th April 2010.
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Re: JIM GAMBLE:::::OPERATION ORE
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Paedophilia: The Hollie Greig Scandal, The Dunblane Massacre & the Scottish Cabal
Sunday, April 4th, 2010
For months we in Ireland have been scratching our heads, worrying and shouting out about the cover-up that has been going on within the Catholic Church regarding the abuse of children by ordained priests for the last 40 years or so. Well there is a bigger cover-up one that goes to the heart of civilized society as we know it. One that has massive political repercussions when it eventually does come out
All weekend long I have been struggling with this story that I know is there but needs the right slant. With all the legal fears of publishing the truth, the papers in Britain have been hamstrung these last 15 years with dealing with this string of events. The web is full of it, but every now and then, when an article crosses a particular line, the article or website is removed. As you trawl through the web on this subject the more you see of the captions This page cannot be found or This page is lost.
So all I am going to do with this posting is to relate a few historical facts and give you a few web sites for you to wander through and ask you to make up your own minds.
Paedophilia is rife all over the world but never more so than in the higher echelons of English and Scottish society where it is possibly at the root of leading political thought and because most senior British politicians seem to be linked to Scotland, you could consider the fault lies completely in Scotland. The land where freemasonry is said to have originated in the late 16th century.
THE DUNBLANE MASSACRE 13th MARCH 1996
Thomas Watt Hamilton, a known paedophile, walks into Dunblane Junior School and shoots dead 16 children and one teacher, subsequent reporting links George Robertson, the then Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland, with Hamilton. The subsequent Cullen Enquiry covers everything up and slaps a 100 year rule on its findings. Robertson went on to be Defence Secretary in Blair’s government and then Secretary General of Nato before disappearing off the radar in 2oo4. Subsequent to this enquiry and its 100 year rule reporting of paedophilia in high places was rife in the British press before Tony Blair slapped a D notice on the papers and their editors forbidding them reporting on this matter and citing the oncoming war in Iraq and the damage this would have on military personnel. So the continued exposure suddenly stopped in 2003 and is now reawakening.
THE HOLLIE GREIG STORY 2000 TO PRESENT
Hollie was a young Downes Syndrone child who was continually raped and abused by her father, groomed elder brother and a ring of paedophiles in the Aberdeen area for 14 years. This ring included policemen, lawyers and social workers. It stopped in 2000 when this abuse was found out by and reported to the police by her mother. The case has been kept under close wraps by the now Lord Advocate of Scotland.
The case is amazing and terrible and needs a day studying it on the web to realise how truth is clamped down on when the authorities are implicated and how we the ordinary decent folk are organized. Google Hollie Greig and read the shocking story of high level paedophilia, especially look at the five videos on YouTube of Journalist and Investigator Robert Green who explains the story well.
The names that keep cropping up and in no particular order or culpability are:-
Graeme Buchanan, Sherriff of Aberdeen.
Terry Major, a senior police officer with Grampian Police
Eilish Frances Angiolini, Lord Advocate of Scotland.
Dennis Charles Mackie, Hollie’s father and now resident in Portugal
Operation Ore, the police investigation into paedophiles on the web.
Robert Greig, Hollie’s uncle, found dead in a burning car in 1997.
Edinburgh University.
The Speculative Society, a mason’s lodge founded in Edinburgh University.
Peter Mandelson, Brown and Blair’s right hand man.
Lord Cullen, now Scotland’s senior judge.
Gordon Brown, Prime Minister of Britain.
George Robertson, one time Secretary General of NATO and now director of several large companies.
The FBI.
MI5
Some websites to look at are:-
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=12246
www.propagandamatrix.com/blair protection.html
www.propagandamatrix/alleged paedophiles.html
www.guardian.co.uk/guardianpolitics/story/0.3605.895056.00.html
http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/
Read these and they lead on to more and give yourself plenty of time to imbibe it all and then tell me we are not being kidded.
Paedophilia: The Hollie Greig Scandal, The Dunblane Massacre & the Scottish Cabal
Sunday, April 4th, 2010
For months we in Ireland have been scratching our heads, worrying and shouting out about the cover-up that has been going on within the Catholic Church regarding the abuse of children by ordained priests for the last 40 years or so. Well there is a bigger cover-up one that goes to the heart of civilized society as we know it. One that has massive political repercussions when it eventually does come out
All weekend long I have been struggling with this story that I know is there but needs the right slant. With all the legal fears of publishing the truth, the papers in Britain have been hamstrung these last 15 years with dealing with this string of events. The web is full of it, but every now and then, when an article crosses a particular line, the article or website is removed. As you trawl through the web on this subject the more you see of the captions This page cannot be found or This page is lost.
So all I am going to do with this posting is to relate a few historical facts and give you a few web sites for you to wander through and ask you to make up your own minds.
Paedophilia is rife all over the world but never more so than in the higher echelons of English and Scottish society where it is possibly at the root of leading political thought and because most senior British politicians seem to be linked to Scotland, you could consider the fault lies completely in Scotland. The land where freemasonry is said to have originated in the late 16th century.
THE DUNBLANE MASSACRE 13th MARCH 1996
Thomas Watt Hamilton, a known paedophile, walks into Dunblane Junior School and shoots dead 16 children and one teacher, subsequent reporting links George Robertson, the then Shadow Secretary of State for Scotland, with Hamilton. The subsequent Cullen Enquiry covers everything up and slaps a 100 year rule on its findings. Robertson went on to be Defence Secretary in Blair’s government and then Secretary General of Nato before disappearing off the radar in 2oo4. Subsequent to this enquiry and its 100 year rule reporting of paedophilia in high places was rife in the British press before Tony Blair slapped a D notice on the papers and their editors forbidding them reporting on this matter and citing the oncoming war in Iraq and the damage this would have on military personnel. So the continued exposure suddenly stopped in 2003 and is now reawakening.
THE HOLLIE GREIG STORY 2000 TO PRESENT
Hollie was a young Downes Syndrone child who was continually raped and abused by her father, groomed elder brother and a ring of paedophiles in the Aberdeen area for 14 years. This ring included policemen, lawyers and social workers. It stopped in 2000 when this abuse was found out by and reported to the police by her mother. The case has been kept under close wraps by the now Lord Advocate of Scotland.
The case is amazing and terrible and needs a day studying it on the web to realise how truth is clamped down on when the authorities are implicated and how we the ordinary decent folk are organized. Google Hollie Greig and read the shocking story of high level paedophilia, especially look at the five videos on YouTube of Journalist and Investigator Robert Green who explains the story well.
The names that keep cropping up and in no particular order or culpability are:-
Graeme Buchanan, Sherriff of Aberdeen.
Terry Major, a senior police officer with Grampian Police
Eilish Frances Angiolini, Lord Advocate of Scotland.
Dennis Charles Mackie, Hollie’s father and now resident in Portugal
Operation Ore, the police investigation into paedophiles on the web.
Robert Greig, Hollie’s uncle, found dead in a burning car in 1997.
Edinburgh University.
The Speculative Society, a mason’s lodge founded in Edinburgh University.
Peter Mandelson, Brown and Blair’s right hand man.
Lord Cullen, now Scotland’s senior judge.
Gordon Brown, Prime Minister of Britain.
George Robertson, one time Secretary General of NATO and now director of several large companies.
The FBI.
MI5
Some websites to look at are:-
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=12246
www.propagandamatrix.com/blair protection.html
www.propagandamatrix/alleged paedophiles.html
www.guardian.co.uk/guardianpolitics/story/0.3605.895056.00.html
http://stolenkids-hollie.blogspot.com/
Read these and they lead on to more and give yourself plenty of time to imbibe it all and then tell me we are not being kidded.
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Re: JIM GAMBLE:::::OPERATION ORE
by justagrannynow 1 07.04.10 9:09
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Jim Gamble - Chief Executive CEOP
Formerly Assistant Chief Constable of the National Crime Squad (responsible for co-ordinating Operation Ore)
As a direct consequence of the statements and decisions of Jim Gamble and associated people, the innocent were incriminated, guilt was overstated, lives were endangered or lost, public morals were corrupted and justice was denied.
Jim's done very well out of Operation Ore, he's now CEO of the UK's new Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP).
On 31/08/2005 Complaints to the IPCC regarding Jim Gamble's conduct prior to and during Operation Ore were upheld. It appears that the IPCC are now unwilling to investigate the complaints as they are legally required to.
12/05/2007 For the latest on Gamble's dishonest statements at the House Of Lords click here
01/03/2007 Jim Gamble at The House Of Lords
On Wednesday 10th of January 2007 in the House of Lords, Jim Gamble stated without any objection:
"The principal operation of Landslide was simply this: you went on; you identified what you wanted; you handed over your credit card details and you were sent a password back to your e-mail address which you had; you then went back on-line using that password which had been sent to your computer and then accessed your choice."
Landslide was primarily an adult payment gateway and the keyz system that was at the centre of numerous allegations was not a place you would 'identify what you wanted' as Jim Gamble asserted, you couldn't as there wasn't even a menu of sites there to select from. Adult verification intermediaries like Landslide were set up to comply with US law where ownership of a credit card was deemed as proof of age. If you wanted to pay for access to an adult website on the Internet which used the Landslide payment gateway, you would be redirected to Landslide for the purposes of entering payment or access authentication, though such was the malice on the Internet, that is only how Landslide intended the system to operate. Payment systems that offer substantial payback to webmasters such as Landslide keyz were common targets for fraud.
Jim Gamble was responding to Question 219 from the Earl of Erroll who was asking in effect for comment on advice he had received that people were hounded when there was no evidence of breaking the law or evidence had been misinterpreted. Jim Gamble responded:
"It is common practice in many cases - and I have been a law enforcement officer for over 26 years - to try and discredit an operation of any type, not least this type in a new area. I would not want to associate myself with any investigation that manifested itself in the way you described, and that does not bear any resemblance, in my view, to my actual experience of this investigation."
It would have been true to say attempts were made to discredit other operations James Gamble had involvement in, not least by relatives of the deceased and those acting out of conscience. Numerous murders in Northern Ireland including of human rights activists and solicitors were subject to several enquiries and Prime Minister Tony Blair has made a public apology following investigations into Belfast Special Branch. James Gamble and Ronnie Flanagan left for England after the truth received exposure in the mainstream media.
In question 220 on the 10th of January 2007 the Earl of Erroll asks Jim Gamble a follow up question about the Landslide website:
A very quick question then, there was no other sort of pornography on that website, it is purely child pornography? I have never visited it so I do not know.
Mr Gamble responds:
I am glad because we would have met under other circumstances perhaps! Let me be very clear here.
We will stop Mr. Gamble there as the ramble that followed was far from clear and did not answer the question. Had the Earl of Erroll been visiting the Landslide website in 1999 or subsequently via the waybackmachine he would not have been committing an offence in so doing. The Earl perhaps felt it necessary to assert his innocence by saying he had not visited the site, some would say this has the pathology of denial which is common in a witch hunt, but irrelevant in the circumstances. The point is perhaps made by inviting the Earl of Erroll to visit 'the site'. Contrary to evidence used by SOCA, the real home page can be viewed here.
Not being guilty of an offence does not remotely suggest one is safe from conviction; the IWF have since edited their website but it once proudly proclaimed the presumption of guilt introduced with the SOA 2003. The law also increased the age of an adult in respect of imagery from 16 to 18, rendering millions of copies of The Sun newspaper child pornography, not to mention countless computers, as even if you ask Windows to delete something you didn't want, it doesn't do what you say and remove it, it just takes it out of the index, and the courts have accepted you are guilty of possession even though you cannot access what you are supposed to have.
As for the Earl of Erroll, he can search through the archive of Landslide domains and sub domains as hard as he likes, but he will not be committing an offence or generating suspicion of committing an offence, rather the joke that Mr. Gamble told was on him. If he leaves Landslide intentionally or otherwise, then he is as vulnerable as anyone to the very laws his office has helped create.
Jim Gamble's past has come back to haunt him. He worked at the heart of NI's Special Branch.
NORTHERN IRELAND POLICE COLLUDED WITH MURDERERS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6286695.stm
Radio broadcast including Jim Gamble (NCS, VGT, CEOP), 7,000 names to receive a knock at the door.
'... were turning over 1.4 million per month' - Jim Gamble
Landslide netted more than $1 million a month between 1997 and 1999, the government said.
NCS had the accounts and this was a false statement. Compared to the US auditor, Jim Gamble had overstated the revenue by some $24 million dollars.
View the Landslide accounts
Gambles radio interview
April 24, 2006
CEOP launched amidst more Gamble scaremongering
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4937264.stm
April 19, 2006
More of what we've come to expect from the self proclaimed 'Sheriff Of The Internet'.
"The internet is not the Wild West." - Sheriff Gamble 2006
http://society.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,,1756066,00.html
"We are very conscious that if we make this kind of allegation against you today, we cannot simply wipe the slate tomorrow if we get it wrong," he said. (And there's an abundance of dirty slates out there, eh Jim?. Hence the existence of this site)
Blatant lies with horrific consequences;
BBC Radio 4 (14/04/2004) broadcast statements by Jim Gamble, then Assistant Chief Constable of the National Crime Squad (responsible for co-ordinating Operation Ore);
He said those charged were suspected of involvement in the "worst kind of hands-on physical abuse".
"As for the other people, they didn't get on to this site by accident," he said.
"You had to enter your credit card details, you had to go through a series of pages whereby you knew exactly where you were going and what you were going to see."
Big Jim even blatantly lied to Parliament...
Comments to APIG (All Party Parliamentary Internet Group)
"If you consider operation Ore, in 1999 towards 7,000 people in the UK sat at their computers and accessed child abuse websites. Three or four years later, that investigation is on-going. It is because we have been able to go back, because that data was captured at the time, that we are now able to hold those suspects, where we can collect and collate evidence, to account. That, potentially, has been brought about because the data was available to us. If that data had not been available, if it had not been captured and preserved, then how would we have investigated 7,000 people who accessed hard core child abuse sites?"
APIG Communications Data Inquiry Oral Evidence (18 Dec 2002)
In the same text, Gamble said "trust me, I am a police officer".
Full Text
"Figures released today of a 400 per cent increase in this type of crime are merely reflecting the success of Operation Ore. It put a tremendous amount of pressure on forces around the country."
http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,39128445,00.htm
"....we have learnt from Operation Ore."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3329567.stm
Jim Gamble - Lies, lies and more lies.
"It is easy to make a report as it’s all done online via our website www.iwf.org.uk" - a slip of the tongue perhaps, as this comment was made by Jim Gamble of SOCA, CEOP and VGT..). The IWF is directly involved in the funding arrangements of CEOP, of which Jim Gamble is the Chief Executive.
Ore 'list' leaked by NCS to press (Read Article)
"We are making the internet as safe as is humanly possible for our children"
http://212.58.226.53/1/hi/uk_politics/3091663.stm
Mr Gamble said the UK used to host 18% of child porn sites but that figure has been reduced to 1%.
"This is about protecting children."
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/technology/s/182/182022_world_first_to_fight_internet_perverts.html
On CEOP;
"It will identify children who've already been abused. This centre will be something you've never seen before. When you walk in the door you'll not be able to tell who the police officer is and who is from charity."
http://www.silicon.com/management/government/0,39024677,39131208,00.htm
"We can't allow credit cards to become instruments of crime,"
ACC Gamble said police have "diligent procedures to double check information" so that paedophile allegations are not made on the basis of a credit card transaction alone."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/09/paedo_credit_card_blacklist/
"This campaign will help empower young people with the necessary skills to stay safe online and, as a consequence, make it as difficult as possible for those people who use the Internet to commit child abuse.”
http://www.childnet-int.org/kia/press.aspx
“Operation Ore is a prime example of law enforcement agencies working together with the protection of children at the forefront."
http://www.iwf.org.uk/media/news.archive-2004.38.htm
And a selection of Jim's career highs include....
Ian Picks killed for being a suspected Paedophile (he wasn't)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4726115.stm
Barry Sewell, 49 tortured to death in mistaken belief he was a paedophile (he wasn't)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/4517189.stm
Arnold Hartley , 73 murdered paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/4512867.stm
Timothy Colwell, 65, murdered outside his flat after being falsely accused of being a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4254977.stm
William Goad, 60, attacked in his prison cell - attempted murder
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4185423.stm
Glynn Davies, 45, 2 months in intensive care after being wrongly accused of being paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3667436.stm
Matthew Murray, 39, beaten to death after rumours circulated he was a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/3700457.stm
Peter Hamilton-Harvey (convicted) parents home burnt down (injuries)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/dorset/3466967.stm
Judge appeals for attacks on jailed Paedophile's family to stop
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2503825.stm
Mr McKenzie, gang tried to murder him after seeing pics of his own children an a wall (totally innocent)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2293405.stm
Home of 75-year old pensioner firebombed after rumours (WRONG) he was a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2289010.stm
Vigilante attack on flats where sex-offender lived
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2182754.stm
Partially-sighted pensioner was bludgeoned to death before trial on child abuse charges
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2050360.stm
Alf Wilkins, 67 murdered after 2 men WRONGLY believed he was a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1833839.stm
Stephen Hunking, 20, murdered in a an orgy of violence after he was MISTAKENLY thought to be a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1647927.stm
Richard Hughes, 29, beaten to death by "friends" after they accused him of molesting a child
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1433729.stm
Alan Green, 48, viciously attacked (confessed paedophile)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/910285.stm
Family escape arson attack on flat where convicted paedophile once lived
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/908761.stm
Paediatrician forced to flee house after vandals confused her job title
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm
BBC debate hears that AT LEAST 55 INNOCENT people have been attached by anti-paedophile protesters in past few years (dated Aug 2000)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/882188.stm
John Fallen, 69 battered to death after being accused of being a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4115619.stm
Anti-paedophile protesters in Portsmouth have driven four innocent families from their homes through fear of violence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/872436.stm
CEOP
Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre
(Exploitation by name, exploitation by nature. CEOP is already inventing statistics and distributing false information to help justify it's existence)
Although Jim Gamble is directly responsible for the deaths of innocent men through Operation Ore, he has been well rewarded for his efforts. Jim is the first chief executive of CEOP.
CEOP is conveniently exempt from the FOI Act.
'Trust in the integrity of CEOP lays at the very heart of the way their staff, and the community they serve, view it. CEOP will protect its reputation by making full use of the Serious Organised Crime Agency Professional Standards Department (PSD) which makes clear our determination to maintain the pursuit and the prosecution of corrupt and dishonest members of staff, either current or past; and as importantly, those individuals who seek to entrap and corrupt them.'
Taken from the CEOP website http://www.ceop.gov.uk/professional_standards.html
This statement cannot be true while Gamble is employed at CEOP, he has committed criminal acts with respect to Operation Ore. He is a consummate liar.
CEOP - Who is the CEO?
http://www.ceop.gov.uk/who_is_ceo.htm
ppc
Jim Gamble - Chief Executive CEOP
Formerly Assistant Chief Constable of the National Crime Squad (responsible for co-ordinating Operation Ore)
As a direct consequence of the statements and decisions of Jim Gamble and associated people, the innocent were incriminated, guilt was overstated, lives were endangered or lost, public morals were corrupted and justice was denied.
Jim's done very well out of Operation Ore, he's now CEO of the UK's new Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP).
On 31/08/2005 Complaints to the IPCC regarding Jim Gamble's conduct prior to and during Operation Ore were upheld. It appears that the IPCC are now unwilling to investigate the complaints as they are legally required to.
12/05/2007 For the latest on Gamble's dishonest statements at the House Of Lords click here
01/03/2007 Jim Gamble at The House Of Lords
On Wednesday 10th of January 2007 in the House of Lords, Jim Gamble stated without any objection:
"The principal operation of Landslide was simply this: you went on; you identified what you wanted; you handed over your credit card details and you were sent a password back to your e-mail address which you had; you then went back on-line using that password which had been sent to your computer and then accessed your choice."
Landslide was primarily an adult payment gateway and the keyz system that was at the centre of numerous allegations was not a place you would 'identify what you wanted' as Jim Gamble asserted, you couldn't as there wasn't even a menu of sites there to select from. Adult verification intermediaries like Landslide were set up to comply with US law where ownership of a credit card was deemed as proof of age. If you wanted to pay for access to an adult website on the Internet which used the Landslide payment gateway, you would be redirected to Landslide for the purposes of entering payment or access authentication, though such was the malice on the Internet, that is only how Landslide intended the system to operate. Payment systems that offer substantial payback to webmasters such as Landslide keyz were common targets for fraud.
Jim Gamble was responding to Question 219 from the Earl of Erroll who was asking in effect for comment on advice he had received that people were hounded when there was no evidence of breaking the law or evidence had been misinterpreted. Jim Gamble responded:
"It is common practice in many cases - and I have been a law enforcement officer for over 26 years - to try and discredit an operation of any type, not least this type in a new area. I would not want to associate myself with any investigation that manifested itself in the way you described, and that does not bear any resemblance, in my view, to my actual experience of this investigation."
It would have been true to say attempts were made to discredit other operations James Gamble had involvement in, not least by relatives of the deceased and those acting out of conscience. Numerous murders in Northern Ireland including of human rights activists and solicitors were subject to several enquiries and Prime Minister Tony Blair has made a public apology following investigations into Belfast Special Branch. James Gamble and Ronnie Flanagan left for England after the truth received exposure in the mainstream media.
In question 220 on the 10th of January 2007 the Earl of Erroll asks Jim Gamble a follow up question about the Landslide website:
A very quick question then, there was no other sort of pornography on that website, it is purely child pornography? I have never visited it so I do not know.
Mr Gamble responds:
I am glad because we would have met under other circumstances perhaps! Let me be very clear here.
We will stop Mr. Gamble there as the ramble that followed was far from clear and did not answer the question. Had the Earl of Erroll been visiting the Landslide website in 1999 or subsequently via the waybackmachine he would not have been committing an offence in so doing. The Earl perhaps felt it necessary to assert his innocence by saying he had not visited the site, some would say this has the pathology of denial which is common in a witch hunt, but irrelevant in the circumstances. The point is perhaps made by inviting the Earl of Erroll to visit 'the site'. Contrary to evidence used by SOCA, the real home page can be viewed here.
Not being guilty of an offence does not remotely suggest one is safe from conviction; the IWF have since edited their website but it once proudly proclaimed the presumption of guilt introduced with the SOA 2003. The law also increased the age of an adult in respect of imagery from 16 to 18, rendering millions of copies of The Sun newspaper child pornography, not to mention countless computers, as even if you ask Windows to delete something you didn't want, it doesn't do what you say and remove it, it just takes it out of the index, and the courts have accepted you are guilty of possession even though you cannot access what you are supposed to have.
As for the Earl of Erroll, he can search through the archive of Landslide domains and sub domains as hard as he likes, but he will not be committing an offence or generating suspicion of committing an offence, rather the joke that Mr. Gamble told was on him. If he leaves Landslide intentionally or otherwise, then he is as vulnerable as anyone to the very laws his office has helped create.
Jim Gamble's past has come back to haunt him. He worked at the heart of NI's Special Branch.
NORTHERN IRELAND POLICE COLLUDED WITH MURDERERS
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/6286695.stm
Radio broadcast including Jim Gamble (NCS, VGT, CEOP), 7,000 names to receive a knock at the door.
'... were turning over 1.4 million per month' - Jim Gamble
Landslide netted more than $1 million a month between 1997 and 1999, the government said.
NCS had the accounts and this was a false statement. Compared to the US auditor, Jim Gamble had overstated the revenue by some $24 million dollars.
View the Landslide accounts
Gambles radio interview
April 24, 2006
CEOP launched amidst more Gamble scaremongering
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/4937264.stm
April 19, 2006
More of what we've come to expect from the self proclaimed 'Sheriff Of The Internet'.
"The internet is not the Wild West." - Sheriff Gamble 2006
http://society.guardian.co.uk/children/story/0,,1756066,00.html
"We are very conscious that if we make this kind of allegation against you today, we cannot simply wipe the slate tomorrow if we get it wrong," he said. (And there's an abundance of dirty slates out there, eh Jim?. Hence the existence of this site)
Blatant lies with horrific consequences;
BBC Radio 4 (14/04/2004) broadcast statements by Jim Gamble, then Assistant Chief Constable of the National Crime Squad (responsible for co-ordinating Operation Ore);
He said those charged were suspected of involvement in the "worst kind of hands-on physical abuse".
"As for the other people, they didn't get on to this site by accident," he said.
"You had to enter your credit card details, you had to go through a series of pages whereby you knew exactly where you were going and what you were going to see."
Big Jim even blatantly lied to Parliament...
Comments to APIG (All Party Parliamentary Internet Group)
"If you consider operation Ore, in 1999 towards 7,000 people in the UK sat at their computers and accessed child abuse websites. Three or four years later, that investigation is on-going. It is because we have been able to go back, because that data was captured at the time, that we are now able to hold those suspects, where we can collect and collate evidence, to account. That, potentially, has been brought about because the data was available to us. If that data had not been available, if it had not been captured and preserved, then how would we have investigated 7,000 people who accessed hard core child abuse sites?"
APIG Communications Data Inquiry Oral Evidence (18 Dec 2002)
In the same text, Gamble said "trust me, I am a police officer".
Full Text
"Figures released today of a 400 per cent increase in this type of crime are merely reflecting the success of Operation Ore. It put a tremendous amount of pressure on forces around the country."
http://management.silicon.com/government/0,39024677,39128445,00.htm
"....we have learnt from Operation Ore."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3329567.stm
Jim Gamble - Lies, lies and more lies.
"It is easy to make a report as it’s all done online via our website www.iwf.org.uk" - a slip of the tongue perhaps, as this comment was made by Jim Gamble of SOCA, CEOP and VGT..). The IWF is directly involved in the funding arrangements of CEOP, of which Jim Gamble is the Chief Executive.
Ore 'list' leaked by NCS to press (Read Article)
"We are making the internet as safe as is humanly possible for our children"
http://212.58.226.53/1/hi/uk_politics/3091663.stm
Mr Gamble said the UK used to host 18% of child porn sites but that figure has been reduced to 1%.
"This is about protecting children."
http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/men/news/technology/s/182/182022_world_first_to_fight_internet_perverts.html
On CEOP;
"It will identify children who've already been abused. This centre will be something you've never seen before. When you walk in the door you'll not be able to tell who the police officer is and who is from charity."
http://www.silicon.com/management/government/0,39024677,39131208,00.htm
"We can't allow credit cards to become instruments of crime,"
ACC Gamble said police have "diligent procedures to double check information" so that paedophile allegations are not made on the basis of a credit card transaction alone."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/06/09/paedo_credit_card_blacklist/
"This campaign will help empower young people with the necessary skills to stay safe online and, as a consequence, make it as difficult as possible for those people who use the Internet to commit child abuse.”
http://www.childnet-int.org/kia/press.aspx
“Operation Ore is a prime example of law enforcement agencies working together with the protection of children at the forefront."
http://www.iwf.org.uk/media/news.archive-2004.38.htm
And a selection of Jim's career highs include....
Ian Picks killed for being a suspected Paedophile (he wasn't)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/merseyside/4726115.stm
Barry Sewell, 49 tortured to death in mistaken belief he was a paedophile (he wasn't)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/wear/4517189.stm
Arnold Hartley , 73 murdered paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tees/4512867.stm
Timothy Colwell, 65, murdered outside his flat after being falsely accused of being a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4254977.stm
William Goad, 60, attacked in his prison cell - attempted murder
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/4185423.stm
Glynn Davies, 45, 2 months in intensive care after being wrongly accused of being paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/3667436.stm
Matthew Murray, 39, beaten to death after rumours circulated he was a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/3700457.stm
Peter Hamilton-Harvey (convicted) parents home burnt down (injuries)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/dorset/3466967.stm
Judge appeals for attacks on jailed Paedophile's family to stop
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2503825.stm
Mr McKenzie, gang tried to murder him after seeing pics of his own children an a wall (totally innocent)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/2293405.stm
Home of 75-year old pensioner firebombed after rumours (WRONG) he was a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2289010.stm
Vigilante attack on flats where sex-offender lived
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/2182754.stm
Partially-sighted pensioner was bludgeoned to death before trial on child abuse charges
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/2050360.stm
Alf Wilkins, 67 murdered after 2 men WRONGLY believed he was a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1833839.stm
Stephen Hunking, 20, murdered in a an orgy of violence after he was MISTAKENLY thought to be a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/1647927.stm
Richard Hughes, 29, beaten to death by "friends" after they accused him of molesting a child
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1433729.stm
Alan Green, 48, viciously attacked (confessed paedophile)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/910285.stm
Family escape arson attack on flat where convicted paedophile once lived
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/908761.stm
Paediatrician forced to flee house after vandals confused her job title
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/wales/901723.stm
BBC debate hears that AT LEAST 55 INNOCENT people have been attached by anti-paedophile protesters in past few years (dated Aug 2000)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/882188.stm
John Fallen, 69 battered to death after being accused of being a paedophile
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4115619.stm
Anti-paedophile protesters in Portsmouth have driven four innocent families from their homes through fear of violence
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/872436.stm
CEOP
Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre
(Exploitation by name, exploitation by nature. CEOP is already inventing statistics and distributing false information to help justify it's existence)
Although Jim Gamble is directly responsible for the deaths of innocent men through Operation Ore, he has been well rewarded for his efforts. Jim is the first chief executive of CEOP.
CEOP is conveniently exempt from the FOI Act.
'Trust in the integrity of CEOP lays at the very heart of the way their staff, and the community they serve, view it. CEOP will protect its reputation by making full use of the Serious Organised Crime Agency Professional Standards Department (PSD) which makes clear our determination to maintain the pursuit and the prosecution of corrupt and dishonest members of staff, either current or past; and as importantly, those individuals who seek to entrap and corrupt them.'
Taken from the CEOP website http://www.ceop.gov.uk/professional_standards.html
This statement cannot be true while Gamble is employed at CEOP, he has committed criminal acts with respect to Operation Ore. He is a consummate liar.
CEOP - Who is the CEO?
http://www.ceop.gov.uk/who_is_ceo.htm
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