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Post by sharonl on 17.04.13 19:26

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_PeopleFinancial problems (2005–2006)
Faced with closure after years of inadequate funding and little input from the private sector, the media announced NMPH was to close.[8] Under the direction of the co-Founders Sir Norman Wakefield was appointed as advisor and formed a consortium of charitable organisations that offered financial support. After an outpouring of public support the Home Office too announced emergency funding for the charity. In September 2005, Paul Tuohy joined the charity as their first Chief Executive. The charity reformed its Board of Trustees and started a considerable process of strategic planning.

New Beginnings (2007)

In May 2007 the charity relaunched as ‘Missing People’. This reflected the considerable strategic developments that had been made and the fact that the charity now provided a range of services rather than a single helpline.[9] Also in May, less than one week after her disappearance, missing three-year-old Madeleine McCann had become headline news around the globe.[10] On International Missing Children’s Day (25 May) an appeal by the charity was projected onto Marble Arch to highlight Madeleine’s disappearance and the plight of missing children across the UK.[11] In August Missing People launched the first comprehensive online “missing map” in the UK and Missing People TV’ – the first online channel featuring appeals of missing people.[12] In October the charity along with other NGOs from the English Coalition for Runaway Children asked the government to ‘stop missing the missing issue’. This led to the government developing a strategy on the protection of young runaways for the first time ever.[13] In 2007 the charity also teamed up with the police to hold their first joint conference on “missing”. Delegates came from across the globe came to Blackpool to debate and learn about the latest developments.[14] In November 2007 Missing People won two awards for its website[15] – which received more than 40 million hits in its first year. In December the BBC launched ‘Reunited’ - a season of hard hitting programmes about family members seeking to contact missing relatives and the complex reasons people run away.[16]

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Post by aquila on 17.04.13 19:39

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Post by tigger on 17.04.13 20:35

Gosh! Such a lot of things all happening in May 2007! (I've added it to the topic on new business started around that time - Missing People is a registered Charity but also a Ltd. Co.).

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Post by sharonl on 21.04.13 11:07

Information Gap Over Missing Kids In UK

Sky news report linked to PACT website


11:41am UK, Wednesday 27 February 2008

Child goes missing every five minutes




By Kate Leaman

Fifty days since the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I found there's an information gap over missing children in the UK.
The founder of one missing person's charity told me "there's more chance of finding a stray dog".
If you want to know how many cars were stolen over the last year you will get a figure almost instantly through the Government website.

To find out how many children have gone missing in that time, you'll be hard pushed to get an answer.
The Association of Chief Police Officers, which deals with Madeleine's case, said: "You'd have to ring around 43 police forces to know even an estimate, we just don't have those kind of statistics."

Scotland Yard's Missing Person bureau bore even less fruit when its spokeswoman claimed: "In the last 50 days there have been no cases that resemble the McCann one, no missing or abducted children."

(So Scotland Yard say that child abductions are rare and there were no reports within 50 days of Madeleines' disappearance. Obviously this does not fit in with the Missing Kids charity Agenda. Who is telling the truth here, Scotland Yard or Ernie Allens' associates?)

You only have to visit the Missing Kids web site to find out that this is not true.

(so where do they get their information from if these missing kids have not been reported to the police?)

In fact there is no national policy for handling the subject and no reliable figures to suggest who is missing and why.
Instead there are charities, organisations, web sites and police forces that duplicate each others work. The child's safety is compromised, while time and money are wasted.

Parents and Abducted Children Together (PACT) founder Lady Catherine Meyer is appalled by this situation.
"It is impossible to obtain an accurate picture of the scale and nature of the problem. There is no single centralised place to collect missing persons data."

"We can't establish for certain how many children are missing.You'd have more chance of finding a stray dog" she said.
The UK has a lot to learn from the example set by the United States, where missing persons' policy is much more highly developed.
Broadcasters work closely with the police, members of the public and other organisations. They deliver a strong, unified message to the predators. But it wasn't always this way.

In 1981 an incident occurred that rocked the United States. Adam Walsh, who was six at the time, was abducted from a Florida department store only one mile from his home.

His parents embarked on a publicity rampage, much like that of the McCann's, before his body was discovered sixteen days later.
From the seeds of a nightmare grew a forest of measures devised to strengthen the federal law and protect those too young to protect themselves.

A new Child Protection Act came into effect, together with The National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, and the show America's Most Wanted, hosted by John Walsh, Adam's father.

The UK tried to follow suit in 2006 by launching a scheme called "Child Rescue Alert" based on the American "Amber Alert" which was introduced following the kidnapping and gruesome murder of a nine year-old girl called Amber.
It works by interrupting television and radio programmes with immediate news flashes when a youngster is snatched, although the benefits are yet to be seen.

Lady Catherine Meyer, who has carried out extensive research on the topic, said: "Abduction rates are rising and more needs to be done.
"Often children are snatched and taken abroad. We need better border controls, the police need to react quicker and take missing children cases more seriously."

So it seems where police establish that the danger is not immediate, little is done. By the time the scale of the danger escalates it can be too late.

Alan Blackburn from the Police National Missing Persons Bureau, based at Scotland Yard, is unhappy that the police do not respond quicker by passing on missing persons' information.

"There is some under-reporting by police forces, some don't send it when they should do, some don't send it at all," he said.
"It takes 14 days before any case is considered serious and labelled 'long term missing'.
"There are so few missing children's photos on the official website, I am encouraging the police force to pass on photos and share information from the outset."

Although his unit is directly responsible, he too doesn't know how many missing children there are - although he is eager for a change.
While some might question the McCann's approach to finding Madeleine, what cannot be overlooked is the powerful effect a very similar awareness campaign had in America.

Once we can grasp the nature and scale of this situation, we can begin to devise policy to protect our children.

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Post by tigger on 21.04.13 12:20

Ahhhh!

The UK tried to follow suit in 2006 by launching a scheme called "Child Rescue Alert" based on the American "Amber Alert" which was introduced following the kidnapping and gruesome murder of a nine year-old girl called Amber.
It works by interrupting television and radio programmes with immediate news flashes when a youngster is snatched, although the benefits are yet to be seen.
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I'm sure all this started in 2006.... always wondered where the bright idea came from.

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http://www.soca.gov.uk/about-soca/missing-persons-bureau/child-rescue-alert

Post by tigger on 21.04.13 12:24

Child Rescue Alert
What is it?

CRA is a partnership between the police, the press and the public. Its aim is to locate abducted children and bring them to safety by using the media to promptly publish details about an abducted child's disappearance.

If the public have information that may help locate the child, they are asked to call 0300 2000 333.

Only calls about a current CRA should be made to this number. The number is donated by Cable and Wireless and is available only when a CRA has been activated.

The CRA system is compatible with other European Child Alert systems, so that concurrent alerts can be launched across EU country borders.

The new nationally co-ordinated Child Rescue Alert was launched on International Missing Children's Day, May 25 2010.

How are we involved?

The Missing Persons Bureau has developed the nationally co-ordinated CRA system. We currently offer advice and operational support, in conjunction with the Child Exploitation and Online Protection centre (CEOP), to help investigate and publicise cases where a child has been abducted.

We work with police forces to run an ongoing programme of practice exercises that cover several force areas and European countries to ensure that Child Rescue Alerts can be managed efficiently.

The management of the CRA will soon become the responsibility of CEOP. The MPB will continue to work with CEOP to ensure the efficient management of the CRA.

When would we launch an alert?

The decision to launch an alert is an operational one made by the Senior Investigating Officer for the police force concerned. Not all cases will result in a CRA being launched.

There are four criteria which must all be met before a CRA is launched:

The child is under the age of 18
There is reasonable belief that the child has been kidnapped or abducted (which includes being taken under the influence of a third party)
There is reasonable belief that the child is in imminent danger of serious harm or death
There is sufficient information available to enable the public to assist the police in locating the child

Information for Police

Police officers considering issuing a Child Rescue Alert should consult the CRA protocol 2010 for further guidance and information on how to access 24 hour assistance. This, and all relevant documentation, is available from the Missing Persons Bureau community on POLKA 24 hours a day or contact the Bureau during office hours (Monday to Friday, 9-5) on 0845 000 5481 for a copy. You will also find the special police-only phone number on POLKA, where you will be able to speak to an on-call advisor, 24 hours a day.

Background to the Child Rescue Alert

The Child Rescue Alert is based on the AMBER alert system which has been in use in the United States since 1997. AMBER stands for "America's Missing Broadcasting Emergency Response" and was named after nine year old Amber Hagerman who was abducted, raped and murdered in January 1996. It was later discovered that local law enforcement had information that might have helped to locate her shortly after she was abducted, but had no means to distribute this information. The national programme is dedicated to all children nationwide, who have been abducted.

In the United Kingdom, Sussex Police first introduced a Child Rescue Alert system for their force on 14 November 2002. Surrey and Hampshire quickly followed. Since then, there has been a gradual introduction throughout England and Wales and by 2005, every force had their own alert system. The 2010 re-launch of the Child Rescue Alert on International Missing Children's Day marked the development of a nationally co-ordinated system which enables police forces to work together in the most efficient manner in the event of an Alert launch.

The Missing Kids website

Please see the UK Missing Kids website for details of current missing child appeals. The Missing Kids website is used to publicise cases of missing children and the UK site is part of a global network of similar sites. It can be updated by nominated users within police forces, known as Hub Forces. Management of the website will soon be transferred to CEOP, but the Missing Persons Bureau will continue to have involvement in the site. If you require more details about the site, please contact us.
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Post by tigger on 21.04.13 12:28

Missing kids website (now managed by CEOPS according to the above post) seems to be scraping the bottom of the barrel.
http://www.missingkids.co.uk/

The three featured on the front page are: April Jones - the ONLY child.
A 22- year old and a 27 - year old. That's it.

What exactly is the cut-off point for the definition of 'kids' in particular children and not young baby goats?

And now a 69- year old!



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Post by Guest on 21.04.13 12:35

@sharonl wrote:Information Gap Over Missing Kids In UK

Sky news report linked to PACT website


11:41am UK, Wednesday 27 February 2008

Child goes missing every five minutes




By Kate Leaman

Fifty days since the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, I found there's an information gap over missing children in the UK.
The founder of one missing person's charity told me "there's more chance of finding a stray dog".
If you want to know how many cars were stolen over the last year you will get a figure almost instantly through the Government website.

To find out how many children have gone missing in that time, you'll be hard pushed to get an answer.
The Association of Chief Police Officers, which deals with Madeleine's case, said: "You'd have to ring around 43 police forces to know even an estimate, we just don't have those kind of statistics."

Scotland Yard's Missing Person bureau bore even less fruit when its spokeswoman claimed: "In the last 50 days there have been no cases that resemble the McCann one, no missing or abducted children."

(So Scotland Yard say that child abductions are rare and there were no reports within 50 days of Madeleines' disappearance. Obviously this does not fit in with the Missing Kids charity Agenda. Who is telling the truth here, Scotland Yard or Ernie Allens' associates?)

You only have to visit the Missing Kids web site to find out that this is not true.

(so where do they get their information from if these missing kids have not been reported to the police?)

In fact there is no national policy for handling the subject and no reliable figures to suggest who is missing and why.
Instead there are charities, organisations, web sites and police forces that duplicate each others work. The child's safety is compromised, while time and money are wasted.

Parents and Abducted Children Together (PACT) founder Lady Catherine Meyer is appalled by this situation.
"It is impossible to obtain an accurate picture of the scale and nature of the problem. There is no single centralised place to collect missing persons data."

"We can't establish for certain how many children are missing.You'd have more chance of finding a stray dog" she said.
The UK has a lot to learn from the example set by the United States, where missing persons' policy is much more highly developed.
Broadcasters work closely with the police, members of the public and other organisations. They deliver a strong, unified message to the predators. But it wasn't always this way.

In 1981 an incident occurred that rocked the United States. Adam Walsh, who was six at the time, was abducted from a Florida department store only one mile from his home.

His parents embarked on a publicity rampage, much like that of the McCann's, before his body was discovered sixteen days later.
From the seeds of a nightmare grew a forest of measures devised to strengthen the federal law and protect those too young to protect themselves.

A new Child Protection Act came into effect, together with The National Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, and the show America's Most Wanted, hosted by John Walsh, Adam's father.

The UK tried to follow suit in 2006 by launching a scheme called "Child Rescue Alert" based on the American "Amber Alert" which was introduced following the kidnapping and gruesome murder of a nine year-old girl called Amber.
It works by interrupting television and radio programmes with immediate news flashes when a youngster is snatched, although the benefits are yet to be seen.

Lady Catherine Meyer, who has carried out extensive research on the topic, said: "Abduction rates are rising and more needs to be done.
"Often children are snatched and taken abroad. We need better border controls, the police need to react quicker and take missing children cases more seriously."

So it seems where police establish that the danger is not immediate, little is done. By the time the scale of the danger escalates it can be too late.

Alan Blackburn from the Police National Missing Persons Bureau, based at Scotland Yard, is unhappy that the police do not respond quicker by passing on missing persons' information.

"There is some under-reporting by police forces, some don't send it when they should do, some don't send it at all," he said.
"It takes 14 days before any case is considered serious and labelled 'long term missing'.
"There are so few missing children's photos on the official website, I am encouraging the police force to pass on photos and share information from the outset."

Although his unit is directly responsible, he too doesn't know how many missing children there are - although he is eager for a change.
While some might question the McCann's approach to finding Madeleine, what cannot be overlooked is the powerful effect a very similar awareness campaign had in America.

Once we can grasp the nature and scale of this situation, we can begin to devise policy to protect our children.

Picture: policeman abducting little Maddie?
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Post by tigger on 21.04.13 16:11

Just having a look at the totals:

Missing kids: 129 - most of whom are now well over 20. One of 69 who went missing in 1958.
April Jones is on it as is Maddie of course - this site is run by Ceops.

Missing people seems share some of the missing kids with their sister site: approx. 480 - the majority I'd say are runaway teenagers.

I can't make that a child every 3 minutes, in fact very few children under the age of 16 are listed. Perhaps the police are pretty good at finding them?

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Post by Guest on 22.04.13 6:19

I saw Tesco's name at the side of the PACT logo, so did a search for Tesco & missing children. This was a press release for 18 May 2009 which did suprise me.

FORGET-ME-NOT CAMPAIGN AT TESCO TO SUPPORT PACT

SEARCH FOR MISSING CHILDREN

Every five minutes a child goes missing in the UK, according to child welfare charity

PACT’s research, and tomorrow [Monday 18th May] the charity will launch a new,

awareness-raising campaign to try to reduce this shocking statistic.

PACT has won fresh support from UK supermarket Tesco which will be selling

forget-me-not ribbons, badges and wristbands to raise funds and awareness, as well

as continuing to display posters of missing children and linking its website to the

Missingkids website (www.missingkids.co.uk).

To promote the new campaign, the National Policing Improvement Agency (NPIA) is

holding an event to commemorate International Missing Children’s Day, which will be

supported by PACT, Childline founder Esther Rantzen and Gerry and Kate

McCann.

Press and photographers are invited to the event which will take place at The Deck,

The National Theatre, South Bank, London SE1 at 2pm on Monday 18th May.

Following the launch a question and answer session will begin at 2.55pm and a

photocall at 3.10pm.

PACT’s founder Catherine Meyer said: It is vitally important to increase public

awareness of the problem of missing children if effective action is to be taken. Our

ability to tackle the dreadful statistics – some 100,000 children missing every year –

is hampered by lack of information. From why children go missing in the first place, to

what happens to them next – our information is incomplete and coordination between

the police, NGOs and private sector could be much, much better.’

Tesco executive director Lucy Neville-Rolfe said: ‘Our aim, in supporting this

campaign through sales of forget-me-not symbols and by displaying posters as soon

as they are supplied to our stores, is to help the police and organisations such as

PACT in the best way we can – raising visibility of this problem with millions of

customers every week.’

“Tesco have been supporting this important cause since 2002 by putting up posters

in our stores. This raises visibility of missing children with millions of customers every

week. This year we are also helping the campaign by selling forget-me-not badges,

wristbands and ribbons in our larger stores, hoping that together we can find more

missing children, faster”.

PACT has been campaigning long and hard to improve the situation, in particular by

pressing for full police support for the Missingkids Website with age progression

technology; the Child Rescue Alert, which increases enormously the possibility of

finding a child safe and well in the vital first hours after its disappearance.

Since 2002, PACT has been running a poster campaign with partners in the private

sector, including the Emcor Group UK and the UK media, that allows thousands of

posters of missing children, downloaded from the Missingkids Website, to be

displayed in public places. Thanks to these campaigns over 100 children have been

found.



ENDS



Media enquiries:

PACT: 0207 627 3699 or support@pact-online.org and http://www.pactonline.

org/html/poster_campaigns.html

Tesco: 01992 644645

Notes to Editors:

• The International Missing Children's Day, which was first commemorated in

the USA in 1983, encourages all citizens of the world to think of these

children and to spread a message of hope and solidarity.

• PACT was founded in 2000 by Lady Meyer, wife of the former British

Ambassador to the United States. Its patrons are Cherie Blair, wife of the

former British Prime Minister, and Laura Bush, the former First Lady of the

United States. PACT is an international, non-profit organisation, registered in

the USA and the UK. It is an associate of ICMEC (the international arm of the

National Center for Missing & Exploited Children), based in the USA.

• PACT's initial mission was to fight parental child abduction across frontiers by

raising awareness of a growing, but little-known, problem and by advocating

solutions. While parental child abduction remains at the forefront of PACT's

concerns, it has broadened since 2003 its mission to include all missing

children. It is influential in advocacy, policy-making and research. All this work

is targeted on one goal: to find answers to the tragedy of the thousands of

children who go missing or are abducted every year

http://www.gpdg.co.uk/pact_old/pdf/PACT_PRESS_RELEASE_for_May_18th_2009.pdf









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Post by aquila on 25.04.13 11:05

GMTV Interview 25 May 2007. John McCann 'on the sofa' and Missing People from their HQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGASiTGz9m4
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Post by tigger on 25.04.13 11:38

@aquila wrote:GMTV Interview 25 May 2007. John McCann 'on the sofa' and Missing People from their HQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGASiTGz9m4

Of the two other examples apart from Maddie, about the girl or her background they seem to know next to nothing and the boy had phoned in to say he was OK - as Missing People still didn't know where he was - he's still listed as missing.

Strange logic, clearly the boy didn't want to go back home.
Well, May 2007 certainly gave them a boost as well! I added them to the list of organisations which sprang up around that time. That makes three,
International Family Law Group
Amber Connections
Missing People

Plus the hugely successful Ltd. Co. set up by the McCanns - isn't there some kind of reward for new business ideas?

Although to paraphrase Churchill: rarely have many paid so much for so little winkwink

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Post by aquila on 25.04.13 11:46

Hi Tigger,

I've posted two other links re Missing People on the 'Doctor on the run' thread.

In May 2007 the CEO of Missing People gave an interview with SkyNews and the number of missing people was 100,000. In an article in the Independent October 2009 this same charity is quoted as saying the number of missing people per year is 250,000 but more likely to be in the region of 275,000.

What happened in that relatively short space of time?
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Post by russiandoll on 25.04.13 12:03

@aquila wrote:GMTV Interview 25 May 2007. John McCann 'on the sofa' and Missing People from their HQ.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGASiTGz9m4


and from Penny Smith after John McCann has told of his forthcoming visit to Missing People organisation to look at images of how aspects of Maddie's appearance might have been changed...

but the one thing that cannot be changed no matter how they try is the iris, where the pupil appears to be dripping into the iris [ or word to that effect ]

reply from John.." That's right "

So no matter the sighting, unless there is that telltale, giveaway coloboma/ fleck [ never made much of acc. to the parents even though it was on an enormous screen at a football game with the LQQK for all to see ..] the child can not be Maddie...will they ever be bothered asking for a DNA test from a girl without this defect?
You probably could remove a mark on the leg, but surely everyone searching for Maddie has asked for doctors being requested for this procedure on a child matching Maddie's description, to contact the police?
Or only if she has a coloboma as well ?

A master stroke. How I hope SY have commandeered the child's health records [ along with those of her parents].

btw.. imo JMcCann is one flying under the radar who needs to be questioned under caution as does another man, Michael Wright.

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Post by Guest on 25.04.13 12:04

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They've been "working very hard" behind the scene and found more missing people. Sorry, that should be: more people missing ...
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Post by aquila on 25.04.13 12:44

Châtelaine wrote:@ aquila

They've been "working very hard" behind the scene and found more missing people. Sorry, that should be: more people missing ...

In the SkyNews interview it's 100,000, in the GMTV it's 210,000 and in the Independent it's 250,000 but more than likely to be around 275,000.

Interestingly, John McCann was interviewed on the GMTV sofa on 25th May 2007 which was the day of the re-launch of Missing People for a better brand image and is now International Missing Children's Day . He was off that day to a meeting with Missing People to play around with some software re image changing. He also wasn't aware of the scale of missing people until he spoke to the charity the day before, the same day that Madeleine's image was projected onto Marble Arch. The CEO of Missing People in that interview reports that since the disappearance of Madeleine they have received somewhere in the region of 1200 missing children reports.

All this (from the GMTV interview) was 22 days after Madeleine's disappearance.
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Post by tigger on 25.04.13 13:22

Just checked on Missingpeople and it's listing 482 missing people of whom some 325 have been missing for more than three years.

Now remind me please, how does this work out with the proceeds of the post code lottery - the 40 + staff, ambassadors and volunteers?
What percentage of the national total is actually found? Out of that - how many are found by missingpeople?

Strikes me that the postcode lottery could be better spent on free local phone numbers and advertising in areas where missing people might turn up, railway stations, hostels etc. Could even pay for the TV commercial to reach these missing people.
The volunteers manning these phones could do the rest.



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Post by aquila on 25.04.13 13:37

@tigger wrote:Just checked on Missingpeople and it's listing 482 missing people of whom some 325 have been missing for more than three years.

Now remind me please, how does this work out with the proceeds of the post code lottery - the 40 + staff, ambassadors and volunteers?
What percentage of the national total is actually found? Out of that - how many are found by missingpeople?

Strikes me that the postcode lottery could be better spent on free local phone numbers and advertising in areas where missing people might turn up, railway stations, hostels etc. Could even pay for the TV commercial to reach these missing people.
The volunteers manning these phones could do the rest.



25,000 pounds is what is claimed as the annual cost of looking for an individual according to the website.

Partners of Missing People (home page of their website) are ACPO (Association of Chief Police Officers) and ACPOS (Association of Chief Polices Officers Scotland). This is a charity. Is it really ok for the police service of UK to endorse a charity?
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Post by tigger on 16.07.13 13:26

At the moment 116 'children' on the list of MissingKids including one who would be 70 now!
MK is closely linked to Missing People and reports of sightings go via Missing People, MissingKids do not appear to have a separate phoneline apart from the 116000 number.

Very few children, nearly all teenagers and older than 16.

As an example: these are the children aged from 4 - 6 that are listed missing:


About Thila Rojas
Thila is missing and thought to be with her mother. The Police want to make sure she is safe and well. If you think you can help the search please call Missing People. Thila, we would love to hear from you. Call. Text. Anytime. Free. Confidential. 116000

and:
About Martin & Dominika Gajdar
It is believed they may be in the USA or Europe. There is concern for their safety. If you think you can help the search please call Missing People. Call. Text. Anytime. Free. Confidential. 116000
Current age: 5Missing for: 1 Year 6 Months 15 Days Missing from: Unknown
Reported missing: 01 Jan 2012Reference No: 12-000877


Errm, that's not exactly missing is it?  Isn't that filching customers from PACT? Parents and abducted children together?  The charity that paid more in salaries than it was getting in?

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Post by Angelique on 16.07.13 15:51

Missing People just sounds like a salaried position around a good idea. There must be a word for this but it's too hot and I can't think what it is!

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Post by PeterMac on 16.07.13 17:08

@Angelique wrote:Missing People just sounds like a salaried position around a good idea. There must be a word for this but it's too hot and I can't think what it is!
FRAUD ?
SCAM ?
DISHONEST ?
As we have said so many times very very few of these children are "Missing" in the sense that no one knows where they are.
The vast majority are simply with the other parent, and therefore not Missing at all.
And it is dishonest to pretend otherwise, and a fraud to collect money to "Find" them

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Re: Missing People in financial difficulty 2006 - New beginnings May 2007

Post by Cristobell on 16.07.13 17:59

Many years ago I was estranged from my mother and had lost all contact with her, I had no idea where she was or if she was still alive, but as I had grown older and matured I realised how much I wanted to see her.  It seemed like a hopeless task, but I contacted the Salvation Army, and within a few short months we were reunited.  I made a modest donation of £25 to the Salvation Army who had so kindly achieved the seemingly impossible and hasten to add I was a single mum and not earning very much, as I would have loved to have given more.

Just a memory that came to mind as I read the £25k per annum needed for each missing person.

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Re: Missing People in financial difficulty 2006 - New beginnings May 2007

Post by tigger on 16.07.13 18:25

@PeterMac wrote:
@Angelique wrote:Missing People just sounds like a salaried position around a good idea. There must be a word for this but it's too hot and I can't think what it is!
FRAUD ?
SCAM ?
DISHONEST ?
As we have said so many times very very few of these children are "Missing" in the sense that no one knows where they are.
The vast majority are simply with the other parent, and therefore not Missing at all.
And it is dishonest to pretend otherwise, and a fraud to collect money to "Find" them

With the MissingKids (which are just another branch of Missing People) I'm rather surprised to see twins of 5 yrs old 'Missing from: Unknown.'
How does that work then? They had no place of abode, floated around a bit, seen at kindergarten and in the park and then no longer seen, their present location is allegedly not known, but where they were is not known either. So forgive me for nattering on, but if you don't know where they should have been how do you know they are missing? scratchhead 

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Re: Missing People in financial difficulty 2006 - New beginnings May 2007

Post by aquila on 16.07.13 18:32

Tigger, these three entries are amazing

Madeleine McCann
Missing from: OVERSEAS

Katrice Lee
Missing from: UNKNOWN

Ben Needham
Missing from: UNKNOWN
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Re: Missing People in financial difficulty 2006 - New beginnings May 2007

Post by sheila.edwards on 16.07.13 19:03

this missing people got lots to fix it up from government from what I gather. It seems to be latest trendy helping  honey pot imo attracting a lot of bees !
 spin will they be checked also if ltd. co as well as charity. Hope so. Don't think you need to be inspector morse, to think they should be checked out financially  to and there linked to police to find these poor missing vulnerable people. as is maddy fund via website which would seem to give their approval all Safe to children elderly who kindly want to give/donate !

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