Daily Star: Tony:- "The McCanns are powerless to stop others making the same allegations as him"
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the daily star - (can't find the right emotion!)
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It's not letting me click on it, surely not wooshed already?
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Ange wrote:
It's not letting me click on it, surely not wooshed already?
I've copied and pasted it (it's very short - there's no mention of Martorell putting her foot in it!) -
6 February 2013
MADELEINE McCann’s parents yesterday asked a judge to jail a retired solicitor who has repeatedly accused them of covering up her death.
Doctors Kate and Gerry McCann, both 44, claim Tony Bennett, 65, is in contempt of court for breaching promises that he would not repeat the allegations.
After a number of attempts to stop the harassment their solicitor Isabel Martorell told Mr Justice Tugendhat at the High Court in London: “Enough is enough.’’
She said the case, which was due to start last month, had been adjourned while talks on a settlement between the two sides were on-going.
The lawyer said they had taken action against some other people but the couple “try as far as possible to turn the other cheek”.
Mr Bennett told the judge the McCanns were powerless to stop others making the same allegations as him.
Then-three-year-old Madeleine vanished from the couple’s Portuguese holiday apartment in 2007.
The hearing continues today.
ETA: I've just noticed that the Daily Star reporter seems to have got confused with GA, obviously can't keep up with all the ongoing trials Team McCann keep foisting on people who don't believe their "fairy tale".
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Try it without the 'http' part...
www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/297163/Madeleine-McCann-parents-want-jail-for-ex-solicitor-s-slur-/
www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/297163/Madeleine-McCann-parents-want-jail-for-ex-solicitor-s-slur-/
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We seem to have a duplicate thread going. The Daily Star article is being discussed on the "Latest news and updates from the trial" topic.
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Thanks for that NewIT and sonic.
Just been text'd (sp?) I've been logged in here all day/night ... and? . Glad to know one of 'mine' at least, has registered. Just checked latest news, thanks again.
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Daily Star: Tony:- "The McCanns are powerless to stop others making the same allegations as him"
Giving this news report its own separate thread:
MADELEINE MCCANN PARENTS WANT JAIL FOR EX-SOLICITOR'S ‘SLUR’
6th February 2013
By Daily Star reporter
MADELEINE McCann’s parents yesterday asked a judge to jail a retired solicitor
who has repeatedly accused them of covering up her death.
Doctors Kate and Gerry McCann, both 44, claim Tony Bennett, 65, is in contempt
of court for breaching promises that he would not repeat the allegations.
After a number of attempts to stop the harassment their solicitor Isabel
Martorell told Mr Justice Tugendhat at the High Court in London: “Enough is
enough.’’
She said the case, which was due to start last
month, had been adjourned while talks on a settlement between the two sides
were on-going.
The lawyer said they had taken action against some other people but the couple
“try as far as possible to turn the other cheek”.
Mr Bennett told the judge the McCanns were
powerless to stop others making the same allegations as him.
Then-three-year-old Madeleine vanished from the couple’s Portuguese holiday
apartment in 2007.
The hearing continues today.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/297163/Madeleine-McCann-parents-want-jail-for-ex-solicitor-s-slur-/
MADELEINE MCCANN PARENTS WANT JAIL FOR EX-SOLICITOR'S ‘SLUR’
6th February 2013
By Daily Star reporter
MADELEINE McCann’s parents yesterday asked a judge to jail a retired solicitor
who has repeatedly accused them of covering up her death.
Doctors Kate and Gerry McCann, both 44, claim Tony Bennett, 65, is in contempt
of court for breaching promises that he would not repeat the allegations.
After a number of attempts to stop the harassment their solicitor Isabel
Martorell told Mr Justice Tugendhat at the High Court in London: “Enough is
enough.’’
She said the case, which was due to start last
month, had been adjourned while talks on a settlement between the two sides
were on-going.
The lawyer said they had taken action against some other people but the couple
“try as far as possible to turn the other cheek”.
Mr Bennett told the judge the McCanns were
powerless to stop others making the same allegations as him.
Then-three-year-old Madeleine vanished from the couple’s Portuguese holiday
apartment in 2007.
The hearing continues today.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/297163/Madeleine-McCann-parents-want-jail-for-ex-solicitor-s-slur-/
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Well, I guess that this is better than nothing.
Not of course that the McCanns were actually there - nor any of their devoted followers it seems - and the writer is confused with the adjournment of the Amaral case.
Not of course that the McCanns were actually there - nor any of their devoted followers it seems - and the writer is confused with the adjournment of the Amaral case.
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And the supreme irony that seems to have flown straight over the head of Isabel Martorell, is that she, on the other hand, thinks she's entitled to stand up in open court under oath to repeat an untested hearsay and expect it to be received as an absolute.
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Mirage wrote:And the supreme irony that seems to have flown straight over the head of Isabel Martorell, is that she, on the other hand, thinks she's entitled to stand up in open court under oath to repeat an untested hearsay and expect it to be received as an absolute.
Exactly, Officially, or at least according to the authorities Madeleine is classified as a Missing person/child, only presumed abducted by her parents.
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Wrong, they did not presume "abduction". They claimed her disappearance to be that.
They knew exactly what happened to her.
They knew exactly what happened to her.
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the press do seem to be using the words missing disapeared rather than abdution more and more now -- good luck today tony --off topic what are all these threads about below ?
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It makes you wonder whether the journalist was actually there.Jean wrote:
Not of course that the McCanns were actually there - nor any of their devoted followers it seems - and the writer is confused with the adjournment of the Amaral case.
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And a further one, in that she has now admitted by implication, that there is no evidence.Mirage wrote:And the supreme irony that seems to have flown straight over the head of Isabel Martorell, is that she, on the other hand, thinks she's entitled to stand up in open court under oath to repeat an untested hearsay and expect it to be received as an absolute.
Otherwise she would obviously have reeled it off to be entered into the record.
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Better than nothing this report in the paper.
Go Tony, Go.
Go Tony, Go.
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Oh dear! 'Slur' in inverted commas - whatever next?
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Have merged the 2 Daily Star threads.
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Is it possible to write a book written by a large collection of forum members? I wonder if the Mccanns would still take 30 Plus people to court?!. Not that I would be any good at writing, I could however provide the cover and illustrations!
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Note to Isabel Martorell - I believe enough is enough trying to get a pensioner bankrupted and imprisoned because he dared to ask questions about Maddie's parents version of events.
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That would be fascinating.
Once the trial is over we could release much of the stuff I prepared for TB, but which has been ruled irrelevant to the narrow point in question.
They include fully referenced pieces on
Cadaver dogs
Changes in Story
Crocodile tears
Appeals and Pleas
Curtains, window and Door
Did they search
Egregious examples of lying
Sedation
Window of Opportunity
Some of them have been peer reviewed - the one on cadaver dogs both in the UK and in the States
It could be a series of monographs, rather than attempting a full narrative.
Once the trial is over we could release much of the stuff I prepared for TB, but which has been ruled irrelevant to the narrow point in question.
They include fully referenced pieces on
Cadaver dogs
Changes in Story
Crocodile tears
Appeals and Pleas
Curtains, window and Door
Did they search
Egregious examples of lying
Sedation
Window of Opportunity
Some of them have been peer reviewed - the one on cadaver dogs both in the UK and in the States
It could be a series of monographs, rather than attempting a full narrative.
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PeterMac wrote:That would be fascinating.
Once the trial is over we could release much of the stuff I prepared for TB, but which has been ruled irrelevant to the narrow point in question.
They include fully referenced pieces on
Cadaver dogs
Changes in Story
Crocodile tears
Appeals and Pleas
Curtains, window and Door
Did they search
Egregious examples of lying
Sedation
Window of Opportunity
Some of them have been peer reviewed - the one on cadaver dogs both in the UK and in the States
It could be a series of monographs, rather than attempting a full narrative.
Not a good idea if, as we hope, there's to be another trial.
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PeterMac wrote:That would be fascinating.
Once the trial is over we could release much of the stuff I prepared for TB, but which has been ruled irrelevant to the narrow point in question.
They include fully referenced pieces on
Cadaver dogs
Changes in Story
Crocodile tears
Appeals and Pleas
Curtains, window and Door
Did they search
Egregious examples of lying
Sedation
Window of Opportunity
Some of them have been peer reviewed - the one on cadaver dogs both in the UK and in the States
It could be a series of monographs, rather than attempting a full narrative.
Sounds like a start!
Oh my friend has just asked what I am doing, I told him I am on the Mccann case forum and explained briefly about this site!. He said " oh! do they want some Ad boards,bumper and window stickers making!?". Hes a sign writer! lol.
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david_uk wrote:Is it possible to write a book written by a large collection of forum members? I wonder if the Mccanns would still take 30 Plus people to court?!. Not that I would be any good at writing, I could however provide the cover and illustrations!
I believe it is. Based on facts and title " THE VANISHING OF MADDIE MCCANN "
photo on front cover: the girl with the tennis balls.
Based on facts and opening paragraph from perspective of the officer taking the call about a missing child at a resort complex in PdL.
KNOWN FACTS, A PHONE CALL WAS RECEIVED REPORTING A 3 YR OLD GIRL MISSING FROM AN APARTMENT.
POLICE TOLD THE FOLLOWING :
PARENTS AND FRIENDS HAD BEEN DRINKING AND DINING IN A BAR/RESTAURANT CLOSE TO APARTMENT, MEAL BEGAN [ TIME]
REGULAR CHECKS HAD BEEN CARRIED OUT ON THE GROUP'S CHILDREN, SLEEPING IN THEIR OWN FAMILIES' APARTMENTS, DURING THE MEAL.[ INTERVALS OF CHECKS NOTED]
THIS HAD BECOME THE ROUTINE SINCE THE FIRST FULL DAY AT THE RESORT [ 29/4/07].
AT 10 PM MOTHER OF MISSING CHILD CHECKED AND COULD NOT SEE DAUGHTER IN BED OR ANYWHERE IN APARTMENT.
RAISED ALARM WITH FRIENDS [ TIME]
MW STAFF NOTIFIED [ TIME]
TEL. CALL TO POLICE [ BY WHOM/TIME]
POLICE ARRIVED [TIME]
FACTS : GROUP OF ADULTS AND CHILDREN ON 5TH FULL DAY OF HOLIDAY PdL.
THE 3 YR OLD CHILD FROM THE McCANN FAMILY IS MISSING.
P.S. noticed after posting that while composing this a couple of other posts have appeared. I belive it is do-able if carefully planned, carefully written so that the FACTS speak for themselves. An indisputable factual account of events since May 3 2007. No speculation, just facts.
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So it's OK to say Madeleine was abducted. Even under oath. But not OK to say you don't think she was abducted. You could even go to prison. Ah right.
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So! Is it possible that the Mccanns will soon have 2 or 3 Libel cases coming up??
Is Pat Brown taking any action against them?
Is Pat Brown taking any action against them?
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Are the McCanns taking action against John Stalker for saying [ documented] that they are hiding a big secret? He certainly did not suggest that they were involved in any way in Maddie's disappearance, but he has accused them of dishonesty, quite something and from which a lot could be inferred.
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T4two wrote:Oh dear! 'Slur' in inverted commas - whatever next?
I think without the inverted commas they would be libelling Tony, and everyone would get dizzy.
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The McCs Powerless to Stop Others Making the Same Allegations as He
I am not a lawyer, so perhaps someone who is can confirm this or otherwise.
Anything said or read out in open court can be quoted in any publication. It is free from copyright and free from defamation proceedings - well, successful defamation proceedings.
This would imply - would it not? - that if A called B a bounder and a thief in open court, then this could be quoted, and there is nothing B could do about it.
Anything said or read out in open court can be quoted in any publication. It is free from copyright and free from defamation proceedings - well, successful defamation proceedings.
This would imply - would it not? - that if A called B a bounder and a thief in open court, then this could be quoted, and there is nothing B could do about it.
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I believe that is true or wouldn't there be problems with the limited coverage of Judge T's statement in which he reported the things that Tony was told he should not do?
I also understand that anything can be said in the Houses of Parliament with no legal repercussions.
If I am wrong, I'm happy to be corrected - only verbally please, I don't go for anything else!
I also understand that anything can be said in the Houses of Parliament with no legal repercussions.
If I am wrong, I'm happy to be corrected - only verbally please, I don't go for anything else!
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