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Post by Ribisl 13.10.12 13:15

Jean wrote:It looks like a glorified lawn mower to me.

This lawn mower was much more impressive imo and took him across Iowa and Wisconsin.

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Post by Stephen Birch 13.10.12 14:13

Goodday

Members of this forum having no knowledge about the equipment I used, need to watch the MALA YouTube video by clicking the link. Mala located in Sweden make the world's best ground penetrating radar machines, and have been doing so for many years. The equipment is used in more than 100 countries, and by more than 80 national defence forces around the world.

I used the Mala Ground penetrating radar machine known as an "Easy locator". The photo in Correio da Manha today, shows me training on a machine with rough-terrain large wheels.

In the photo I am locating graves in the Klapmuts graveyard outside Cape Town, South Africa. The graves are unmarked and below the grass/lawns you see in the photo. I found 22 bodies buried 2- 3 meters below the ground in 30 minutes.(the last body buried in the graveyard, was in 1933) The machine I used in Portugal has smaller wheels, as the surface of the Murat rear gravel driveway in flat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiOORhSSAw8&feature=related

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Post by Woofer 13.10.12 14:36

Thanks for the info Mr. Birch. I was aware of what these machines looked like, but at least it should go part way to allaying doubts. I`ll continue to watch with interest and an open mind.
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Post by PeterMac 13.10.12 16:24

Watch time Team sometime. Their machine is a long stick with what look like 6 inch nails which they stamp into the ground even yard or so. It doesn't actually matter what it looks like. What matters is if it works. And that is itself a matter of evidence.
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Post by sonic72 13.10.12 16:53

jozi wrote:This looks so amateurish, is this the machine ?

This actually looks quite pro compared to some of them! My dad watches Time Team religiously and their 'Geo-Phys' devices are very rudimentary! They all look like they have been knocked up in a garden shed, and made out of old farming tools, bicycle parts, pram components, and tent poles!

You'll see how basic some of these devices are in these links..

http://www.show.me.uk/site/news/STO544.html
http://www.pbs.org/opb/timeteam/about/crew.php

A lot of them seem to buy the digital devices, and then construct a contraption that suits their task, then attach the device to the contraption.



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Post by Newintown 13.10.12 16:59

[quote="jozi"]
candyfloss wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Yes this is in the CM



Experts argue searches for Maddie

South African researcher insists that it is necessary to investigate the best location ensures, Maddie may have been buried. To read the CM

According to Birch, photos backyard Murat taken in May and October 2007 show that debris prevented normal use of an onsite georradar





Not full story says exclusive in the paper. Look at the picture at the top and click on that and it brings up just the small text I have posted above.



http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/peritos-defendem-buscas-por-maddie[/quote]



From above link.......

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This looks so amateurish, is this the machine ?

I'm just wondering how you would get something that size over the double wooden gates that look pretty tall on Murat's property without anyone seeing or hearing anything.

I have difficulty getting my small rotary blade mower out of the garage as it's so heavy. I have to put it down every few yards before I get it onto the lawn as it hurts my arms.

Still, I will be waiting for Mr Birch's endeavours to come to fruition within the next year or so, according to him.

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Post by Stephen Birch 13.10.12 19:32

I used a smaller machine that two of us lifted over the back fence...Handle bars fold down. Weight 24 kg. I carried it on my own to driveway. I am 6ft 3 inchs and weigh 100kg

I,ve done physical work my whole life and have a very strong back.

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Post by winjoy 14.10.12 0:53

candyfloss wrote:Yes this is in the CM



Experts argue searches for Maddie

South African researcher insists that it is necessary to investigate the best location ensures, Maddie may have been buried. To read the CM

According to Birch, photos backyard Murat taken in May and October 2007 show that debris prevented normal use of an onsite georradar





Not full story says exclusive in the paper. Look at the picture at the top and click on that and it brings up just the small text I have posted above.



http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/peritos-defendem-buscas-por-maddie


I have been unable to access this site for a couple of days (a few of us have had the same problem) but now I have looked in again I am astonished that Mr Birch's claims



MASSIVE PRESS COVERAGE OF MY FINDINGS APPEARING OVER PORTUGAL THIS WEEKEND.....

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amount to the little piece kindly posted by Candyfloss...

Talk about an anti-climax! So where is the FULL story Mr Birch?

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Post by Stephen Birch 14.10.12 7:24

I have the article that appeared in Correio da Manha (Saturday) in Adobe format. Struggling to upload. Any ideas ??

Also see article appearing in Correio da Manha today (Sunday) about my investigation and Goncarlo Amaral, and the implications for his upcoming case.

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Post by Stephen Birch 14.10.12 7:43

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/corpo-de-maddie-vale-12-milhoes

Sunday Correio da Manha - Portugal's largest newspaper talk about me and Goncarlo Amaral

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Post by PeterMac 14.10.12 9:13

Stephen, Let me assist if I may

Corpo de Maddie ‘vale’ 1,2 milhões
Se o corpo de Maddie for encontrado no quintal de Robert Murat, tal como o investigador sul-africano Stephen Birch garante estar, depois de ter analisado o terreno, o casal McCann arrisca-se a perder o processo de 1,2 milhões de euros que moveu contra Gonçalo Amaral, por danos morais resultantes do livro ‘A Verdade da Mentira’, onde o ex-inspector da Polícia Judiciária defende que Maddie morreu e o seu corpo foi ocultado.
"Se Birch tiver razão, isso só vem dizer que o investigador do caso [Gonçalo Amaral] tinha razão desde o início", disse ao CM o advogado Santos de Oliveira, que defende Amaral no processo que corre em Lisboa e cujo julgamento tem início em Janeiro.
Questionado sobre se a descoberta do corpo de Maddie teria efeitos no processo, o causídico garante que "tudo tem efeitos". "Mas não dependemos disso", diz.
Recorde-se que a batalha judicial dos McCann já custou a Gonçalo Amaral os bens e os rendimentos, que foram arrestados depois de ter publicado o livro, onde defende a tese da morte acidental de Maddie. Agora, arrisca-se a pagar uma indemnização de 1,2 milhões de euros.
"Escavem o quintal de Murat", continua a apelar Birch

Body of Maddie ' worth ' 1.2 million
If Maddie's body is found in the yard of Robert Murat, as the South African investigator Stephen Birch guarantees, having examined the terrain, the McCann couple risks losing the 1.2 million who moved against Goncalo Amaral, for damages resulting from the book ' the truth of the Lie ', where the former Judicial police argues that Maddie died and her body was hidden.
"If Birch has reason, it just comes up saying that the investigator of the case [Goncalo Amaral] was right from the beginning," said the lawyer Santos CM de Oliveira, who defends Amaral in the process that runs in Lisbon and whose trial begins in January.
Asked whether the discovery of the body of Maddie would have effects in the process, the lawyer assures that "all have effects". "But don't depend on it," he says.
It is recalled that the legal battle of McCann has cost the Goncalo Amaral's assets and incomes, which were seized after having published the book, which defends the thesis of the accidental death of Maddie. Now, he runs the risk of paying an indemnity of 1.2 million euros.
Birch continues to call for "From digging the backyard of Murat", .
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Post by winjoy 14.10.12 10:10

PeterMac wrote:Stephen, Let me assist if I may

Corpo de Maddie ‘vale’ 1,2 milhões
Se o corpo de Maddie for encontrado no quintal de Robert Murat, tal como o investigador sul-africano Stephen Birch garante estar, depois de ter analisado o terreno, o casal McCann arrisca-se a perder o processo de 1,2 milhões de euros que moveu contra Gonçalo Amaral, por danos morais resultantes do livro ‘A Verdade da Mentira’, onde o ex-inspector da Polícia Judiciária defende que Maddie morreu e o seu corpo foi ocultado.
"Se Birch tiver razão, isso só vem dizer que o investigador do caso [Gonçalo Amaral] tinha razão desde o início", disse ao CM o advogado Santos de Oliveira, que defende Amaral no processo que corre em Lisboa e cujo julgamento tem início em Janeiro.
Questionado sobre se a descoberta do corpo de Maddie teria efeitos no processo, o causídico garante que "tudo tem efeitos". "Mas não dependemos disso", diz.
Recorde-se que a batalha judicial dos McCann já custou a Gonçalo Amaral os bens e os rendimentos, que foram arrestados depois de ter publicado o livro, onde defende a tese da morte acidental de Maddie. Agora, arrisca-se a pagar uma indemnização de 1,2 milhões de euros.
"Escavem o quintal de Murat", continua a apelar Birch

Body of Maddie ' worth ' 1.2 million
If Maddie's body is found in the yard of Robert Murat, as the South African investigator Stephen Birch guarantees, having examined the terrain, the McCann couple risks losing the 1.2 million who moved against Goncalo Amaral, for damages resulting from the book ' the truth of the Lie ', where the former Judicial police argues that Maddie died and her body was hidden.
"If Birch has reason, it just comes up saying that the investigator of the case [Goncalo Amaral] was right from the beginning," said the lawyer Santos CM de Oliveira, who defends Amaral in the process that runs in Lisbon and whose trial begins in January.
Asked whether the discovery of the body of Maddie would have effects in the process, the lawyer assures that "all have effects". "But don't depend on it," he says.
It is recalled that the legal battle of McCann has cost the Goncalo Amaral's assets and incomes, which were seized after having published the book, which defends the thesis of the accidental death of Maddie. Now, he runs the risk of paying an indemnity of 1.2 million euros.
Birch continues to call for "From digging the backyard of Murat", .

Thanks for the translation PeterMac. It would be good if it happened, but I tend to agree with the "But don't depend on it," comment! Besides, I thought Portuguese officials had already stated quite clearly that they will not be digging in Murat's garden?

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Post by Stephen Birch 14.10.12 10:49

Thankyou Peter Mac for the translation.

The reaction of Goncarlo Amaral to my findings is puzzling !!!!

This coming week Correio da Manha will reveal very interesting information pertaining to my investigation, and the way forward.

With prayer, two countries and one media mogul will become immobilized, and the remains of MADELEINE MC CANN recovered...

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Post by PeterMac 14.10.12 11:48

It was a slightly cleaned up google or yahoo babel fish translation, so I deserve no thanks.
I hope you are correct, though I have to tell you I doubt it, for other reasons to do with the time line and the findings of the dogs.
Which is why we all try to rely on evidence, rather than pre-conception.
I wish you luck.
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Post by Liz Eagles 14.10.12 12:28

where's the picture of the blonde? I thought there was a photo shoot.
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Aren't these the same images (which could be anywhere on the planet) which have appeared before?
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Post by Liz Eagles 14.10.12 12:43

Dear Stephen Birch,

At the risk of being told to take a hike again, I'd just like you to reassure this forum that your motives are entirely pure and you only have the truth of what happened to Madeleine at heart and as your primary focus. I am being in no way sarcastic.

You say you have spent so much of your time, energy and money on finding truth for Madeleine. IF your findings are proven will that be enough to suffice your quest for the truth? Will you stand to gain notoriety/fame/money/writing a book etc or will you shun it? Will you shun financial gain? Will you seek recompense for your alleged efforts?

You see, I think enough people have made money and notoriety from a missing little girl called Madeleine McCann.

I hope as do all people on this forum and many others that Madeleine is found.

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Post by Stephen Birch 14.10.12 15:00

Well Aquila

- Let me be honest with you and this forum. I read somewhere that if you do not speak the truth, then you have to keep remembering what you said. I have a poor memory, so I am forced to be honest.....lol

Initially after I was drawn to the case, I wanted the fame and fortune of being associated with this high-profile case. But after about two months of working late, each night on the case, and many times into the early hours of the morning, on my own, something in me changed. You see what members of this forum and the public sometimes heavily engrossed in facts, forget, is we dealing with a little 3 year old girl here.

So it became a spiritual journey for me. I am not sure if members of the forum will understand what I am trying to convey here, but when you work on something everyday, all day, 7 days a week, and relive and imagine events as they occurred before and after MADELEINE disappeared , money fades into the background, and does not become the motivating force, JUSTICE does. I remember many times taking a break from my investigation, and just starring at a picture of MADELEINE on my computer monitor.

It was like I was making a pact to her, that I would not give-up searching for her, that I would get her back home to England, to have a proper burial and have a proper tomb-stone erected. In my mind I felt that Sean and Amelie deserved to stand in front of that grave head stone and put flowers on it, and say a few words in front of it. And I saw myself at her funeral. These are the images that occupy my mind today.

This forum must also realize, that inorder to do what I did, I had to overcome hugh obstacles, and I don't think, well I know, I would not of been able to overcome those obstacles without prayer and honorable intentions. I believe a man should be judged by his actions, and not by his words, which is more so in my case, since I cannot spell.

Do I think I,ll write a book or be in a movie, I don't know, and frankly I,ve changed now, so who knows, I just want closure.

It's like you studied a whole year for your final exams, you write the test, and now you wait for your results - You just want the results, closure. Nothing else matters, not the redicule, or the praise, not the threats, nothings matters, just closure.

I hope this give members some perspective of whats going through my mind.

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Post by Woofer 14.10.12 15:05

If he did make money and write a book, would this automatically discredit any other motives?

I`d certainly write a book if I was him.
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Post by Angelique 14.10.12 15:13

I agree - if only so that all people who have their own story and how they have been affected and can tell it to others.

It does not necessarily mean they are just interested soley in the filthy lucre!

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Post by Woofer 14.10.12 15:16

PeterMac wrote:It was a slightly cleaned up google or yahoo babel fish translation, so I deserve no thanks.
I hope you are correct, though I have to tell you I doubt it, for other reasons to do with the time line and the findings of the dogs.
Which is why we all try to rely on evidence, rather than pre-conception.
I wish you luck.

PM - I think the dogs findings could still fit with SB`s theory.

Admin - As SB obviously cannot be as transparent as we would wish, would it be possible to have a separate thread for his theory under `Purporting Theories` and discuss how it could be explained but keeping SB out of it so he does not risk legal obstructions. Admin - can you advise?

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Post by Guest 14.10.12 15:23

Woofer wrote:
PeterMac wrote:It was a slightly cleaned up google or yahoo babel fish translation, so I deserve no thanks.
I hope you are correct, though I have to tell you I doubt it, for other reasons to do with the time line and the findings of the dogs.
Which is why we all try to rely on evidence, rather than pre-conception.
I wish you luck.

PM - I think the dogs findings could still fit with SB`s theory.

Admin - As SB obviously cannot be as transparent as we would wish, would it be possible to have a separate thread for his theory under `Purporting Theories` and discuss how it could be explained but keeping SB out of it so he does not risk legal obstructions. Admin - can you advise?

Yes, by all means start a thread in Debate section. I still have trouble getting past this though in Goncalo's book.........



EDDIE AND KEELA AT ROBERT MURAT'S HOUSE.

Robert Murat's residence and the adjacent grounds are gone over with a fine-tooth comb in their turn. Mark Harrison, rigorously professional, has planned to devote three days to this job. This seems long to us. We want to limit the duration of this operation to avoid having the media besiege the premises. Mark agrees not to prolong the search any longer than is necessary, and manages to finish it in two days.

PJ, GNR, Civil Defence: dozens of men are mobilised. They have to work their way through the jungle that's invaded the land all round the house - Murat will not recognise his garden any more once the investigators have been through. The ground is examined with radar, centimetre by centimetre, by a specialist from Aveiro university. In vain: the dogs detect nothing. No evidence is found anywhere within the area examined. All the same, the radar reveals that Murat's house is built over an ancient Roman villa.




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Post by Woofer 14.10.12 15:30

Candyfloss - yes, that`s something I have trouble with too, but am willing to keep an open mind and discuss. ok I`ll start a thread in Debates. I will leave SBs name out of the title.
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Post by FH 14.10.12 15:33

Just because she wasn't there when the garden was first searched, doesn't mean she isn't there now. Where better to hide some thing than somewehere that has already been searched. After all, if we believe the dogs, there is evidence that a cadaver was transported in the hire car that wasn't hired until some time after the disappearance.
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Post by Woofer 14.10.12 15:50

I have started a thread in Debates, so we can keep SB`s name out of it and avoid him having to expose too much but, of course, there are ways that he could take part anonymously.
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Post by winjoy 14.10.12 17:25

Stephen Birch wrote:Well Aquila

- Let me be honest with you and this forum. I read somewhere that if you do not speak the truth, then you have to keep remembering what you said. I have a poor memory, so I am forced to be honest.....lol

Initially after I was drawn to the case, I wanted the fame and fortune of being associated with this high-profile case. But after about two months of working late, each night on the case, and many times into the early hours of the morning, on my own, something in me changed. You see what members of this forum and the public sometimes heavily engrossed in facts, forget, is we dealing with a little 3 year old girl here.

So it became a spiritual journey for me. I am not sure if members of the forum will understand what I am trying to convey here, but when you work on something everyday, all day, 7 days a week, and relive and imagine events as they occurred before and after MADELEINE disappeared , money fades into the background, and does not become the motivating force, JUSTICE does. I remember many times taking a break from my investigation, and just starring at a picture of MADELEINE on my computer monitor.

It was like I was making a pact to her, that I would not give-up searching for her, that I would get her back home to England, to have a proper burial and have a proper tomb-stone erected. In my mind I felt that Sean and Amelie deserved to stand in front of that grave head stone and put flowers on it, and say a few words in front of it. And I saw myself at her funeral. These are the images that occupy my mind today.

This forum must also realize, that inorder to do what I did, I had to overcome hugh obstacles, and I don't think, well I know, I would not of been able to overcome those obstacles without prayer and honorable intentions. I believe a man should be judged by his actions, and not by his words, which is more so in my case, since I cannot spell.

Do I think I,ll write a book or be in a movie, I don't know, and frankly I,ve changed now, so who knows, I just want closure.

It's like you studied a whole year for your final exams, you write the test, and now you wait for your results - You just want the results, closure. Nothing else matters, not the redicule, or the praise, not the threats, nothings matters, just closure.

I hope this give members some perspective of whats going through my mind.

Regards

Stephen D. Birch

Mr Birch - for a man who professes not to be good with words - that is quite an impressive post which, to me, sounds genuine. I am one of those who would like to believe you. There are others who simply don't and nothing will persuade them otherwise. There are difficulties with your theory - very especially if you insist that Madeleine was buried in the Murat gaden on 3rd May 2007 - which you have repeated several times. That would negate the dogs' findings in 3A and sits uncomfortably beside the statements made in Amaral's book (based on the police findings). As is so often with this case - something doesn't fit.

Like others here, I would like to give you a chance to prove yourself and your theory. Sometimes you shoot yourself in the foot in that attempt! Opinion about you and your theory is so divided and those who believe you to be a self-seeking charlatan are very dismissive of those of us, like me, who are both interested and rather 'willing' you to be right. It is a difficult one. There is only one solution and that is for a dig to take place.

Unfortunately that appears to be as likely as pigs flying! Sorry, but the Portuguese officials seem to have been clear on the point that no dig will take place.

It really needs to happen soon because I do not think there is sufficient to go on with your 'theory' for it to sustain a long drawn-out wait for action. So I wish you luck in your pursuit.

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Post by Stephen Birch 14.10.12 17:32

Thankyou Winjoy

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Post by Ciawoman 14.10.12 18:50

Excellent post Stephen

IMO Stephen's theory should not be dismissed, after all something lead him to invest thousands of pounds on equipment to scan the garden. He has done a lot more than many of us and I admire his determination. IMO he has done a lot more than the McCanns.

Things may not add up but then that's why this case is a mystery, none of us can say for sure what really happened.
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Post by Rob Royston 14.10.12 19:07

Ciawoman wrote:Excellent post Stephen

IMO Stephen's theory should not be dismissed, after all something lead him to invest thousands of pounds on equipment to scan the garden. He has done a lot more than many of us and I admire his determination. IMO he has done a lot more than the McCanns.

Things may not add up but then that's why this case is a mystery, none of us can say for sure what really happened.
I agree that this should be checked out. The fact that nothing seems to have happened since he revealed his findings makes it all the more suspicious.

The governments have been involved here from day one, so nothing should be ruled out. Some people have had massive payouts in compensation, so there could have been a form of indemnity demanded. Think about it.
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