Re: Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat

by Guest 11.10.12 13:09

Jean wrote:Aiyoyo, I take Woofer's post as being critical of the people who don't believe JS's accusers, thinking that they're only saying these things to get compensation. I'm sure he or she is not condoning JS's behaviour.

I'm sure it was just a misunderstanding, Woofer - or barking up the wrong tree, ouch!

by winjoy 11.10.12 13:10

Stephen Birch wrote:The articles will not appear today - my credibilty is intact, will post articles when they are printed.

It might have been better to do just that - post the articles when they have appeared. By saying it would be today [when it turns out not to be] you are feeding the belief that you are seeking attention. If you want support here it might be best not to raise people's expectations, only to then turn around and say that your credibility is still intact.

by bristow 11.10.12 13:40

Someone has written puzzling rhyme on the Stephen Birch Youtube page, wonder if it has any sort of significance?

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

Gerald McCann knows the Molly Maguire

The Molly Maguire knew Gerald McCann

Maddy McCann was a Molly Maguire

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

Molly knew Maddie

Gerald knows Molly

So where and who now knows the body?

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQhe05pkcYg

by aiyoyo 11.10.12 13:43

Jean wrote:Aiyoyo, I take Woofer's post as being critical of the people who don't believe JS's accusers, thinking that they're only saying these things to get compensation. I'm sure he or she is not condoning JS's behaviour.

Quoi! what are u going on about?

by aiyoyo 11.10.12 13:51

Woofer wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Woofer wrote:Is it `attention seeking`? He doesn`t seem that type to me. But maybe I`m naive.

Its so easy to label anyone who blows the whistle on something as an `attention seeker` - an example is all the victims of Sir JS being labelled by many as attention seekers. I wish I knew why people did this - they must constantly believe the whole world is on the make.

o/t
I am surprised you haven't chocked yourself to death with that appellation for that so-vile JS!

Appellation ???? What appellation?

Eh....where highlighted....
He does not deserve to be referred to by that.

by Nelly6969 11.10.12 13:54

bristow wrote:Someone has written puzzling rhyme on the Stephen Birch Youtube page, wonder if it has any sort of significance?

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

Gerald McCann knows the Molly Maguire

The Molly Maguire knew Gerald McCann

Maddy McCann was a Molly Maguire

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

Molly knew Maddie

Gerald knows Molly

So where and who now knows the body?

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQhe05pkcYg

The Molly Maguires was a 19th century secret society of mainly Irish-American coal miners. Many historians^[who?] believe the "Mollies" were present in the anthracite coal fields of Pennsylvania in the United States between the time of the American Civil War
until a series of sensational arrests and trials from 1876−78. The
Molly Maguires were accused of kidnapping and other crimes, largely
because of the allegations of one powerful industrialist (Franklin B. Gowen), and the testimony of one Pinkerton detective (James McParland).
Fellow prisoners testified against the defendants, who were arrested by
the Coal and Iron Police, who served Gowen, who acted as prosecutor in
some of the trials.^[1]

The trusts
seem to have focused almost exclusively upon the Molly Maguires for
criminal prosecution. Information passed from the Pinkerton detective,
intended only for the detective agency and their client — the most
powerful industrialist of the region — was apparently^[vague] also provided to vigilantes who ambushed and murdered miners suspected of being Molly Maguires, as well as their families.^[2]
The industrialist standing to gain financially from the destruction of
the striking union acted as prosecutor of some of the alleged Molly
Maguires at their trials. Molly Maguire history is sometimes presented
as the prosecution of an underground movement that was motivated by
personal vendettas, and sometimes as a struggle between organized labor
and powerful industrial forces. Whether membership in the Molly
organization overlapped union membership to any appreciable extent
remains open to conjecture

by bristow 11.10.12 14:00

Nelly6969 wrote:
bristow wrote:Someone has written puzzling rhyme on the Stephen Birch Youtube page, wonder if it has any sort of significance?

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

Gerald McCann knows the Molly Maguire

The Molly Maguire knew Gerald McCann

Maddy McCann was a Molly Maguire

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

Molly knew Maddie

Gerald knows Molly

So where and who now knows the body?

Y'ken Molly Maguire?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQhe05pkcYg

The Molly Maguires was a 19th century secret society of mainly Irish-American coal miners. Many historians^[who?] believe the "Mollies" were present in the anthracite coal fields of Pennsylvania in the United States between the time of the American Civil War
until a series of sensational arrests and trials from 1876−78. The
Molly Maguires were accused of kidnapping and other crimes, largely
because of the allegations of one powerful industrialist (Franklin B. Gowen), and the testimony of one Pinkerton detective (James McParland).
Fellow prisoners testified against the defendants, who were arrested by
the Coal and Iron Police, who served Gowen, who acted as prosecutor in
some of the trials.^[1]

The trusts
seem to have focused almost exclusively upon the Molly Maguires for
criminal prosecution. Information passed from the Pinkerton detective,
intended only for the detective agency and their client — the most
powerful industrialist of the region — was apparently^[vague] also provided to vigilantes who ambushed and murdered miners suspected of being Molly Maguires, as well as their families.^[2]
The industrialist standing to gain financially from the destruction of
the striking union acted as prosecutor of some of the alleged Molly
Maguires at their trials. Molly Maguire history is sometimes presented
as the prosecution of an underground movement that was motivated by
personal vendettas, and sometimes as a struggle between organized labor
and powerful industrial forces. Whether membership in the Molly
organization overlapped union membership to any appreciable extent
remains open to conjecture

Thank you Nelly6969, how interesting, you learn something new everyday.

Walter Scott · by david_uk 11.10.12 14:10

by Zozo 11.10.12 14:17

Zozo wrote:
Stephen Birch wrote:....I need to be careful. Sometimes I will give the Forum misinformation as a diversion tactic from what I am actually doing - I need to keep Mc Cann's / Murat supporters guessing.
"What is his next move, what is he doing" ??....

Please do not disturb "Training in Progress"

Walter Scott · by david_uk 11.10.12 14:26

winjoy wrote:
Stephen Birch wrote:The articles will not appear today - my credibilty is intact, will post articles when they are printed.

It might have been better to do just that - post the articles when they have appeared. By saying it would be today [when it turns out not to be] you are feeding the belief that you are seeking attention. If you want support here it might be best not to raise people's expectations, only to then turn around and say that your credibility is still intact.

Amen!

by joyce1938 11.10.12 14:46

I infact think it may have been a good idea to post up here before they appear in papers,at least we wont be accusing him and wondering ,if it was really his work being spoken of .what can he do i wonder to keep everyone happy on site here?We shall all be rejoicing ,if we do find he maybe onto something ,not much else to report hereat present joyce1938

by ShuBob 11.10.12 14:53

aiyoyo wrote:Well, at the very least one cant fault him for his continual efforts.

No matter people's views over his theory, the fact that he's still working to get the authority to put it to the test is good enough for us to keep an open mind. What harm is there?

It is his reputation at stake, not ours. We can afford to wait surely?

Where's the evidence for this?

by aiyoyo 11.10.12 14:58

Err...I thought we are all waiting for him to produce that!

Wait until he posts up the *promised* article and we shall what it says.

by Woofer 11.10.12 15:01

aiyoyo wrote:
Woofer wrote:
aiyoyo wrote:
Woofer wrote:Is it `attention seeking`? He doesn`t seem that type to me. But maybe I`m naive.

Its so easy to label anyone who blows the whistle on something as an `attention seeker` - an example is all the victims of Sir JS being labelled by many as attention seekers. I wish I knew why people did this - they must constantly believe the whole world is on the make.

o/t
I am surprised you haven't chocked yourself to death with that appellation for that so-vile JS!

Appellation ???? What appellation?

Eh....where highlighted....
He does not deserve to be referred to by that.

ok ok you`re forgiven ..... for not realising it was tongue in cheek. Perhaps there should be an emoticon for that.

by Guest 11.10.12 21:40

" Y'ken Molly Maguire?
Gerald McCann knows the Molly Maguire
The Molly Maguire knew Gerald McCann
Maddy McCann was a Molly Maguire
Y'ken Molly Maguire?
Molly knew Maddie
Gerald knows Molly
So where and who now knows the body?
Y'ken Molly Maguire?"
***
A puzzling rhyme indeed :-)
A woman, Molly Maguire, led a secret society, an extralegal, anti-landlord organization that terrorized law officers in Ireland in the 1840’s. Reportedly its membership was drawn from the Ancient Order of Hibernians. Hibernian = Irish. Gerry is Irish? They were particular active in County Donegal ...

Molly Maguires, members of a movement based on the original Irish, dominated the mining industry in East Pennsylvania approx 1865-1870, often resorting to intimidation and murder. They were infiltrated by a Pinkerton agent, James McParlan. His secret reports were released for study in 1947.

Molly Maguire is also a singer ...
And it’s also the name of many a pub in Ireland and in Pennsylvania.

I'm going to have a look at the McParlan files ... ;-)

by aiyoyo 12.10.12 2:29

winjoy wrote:
Stephen Birch wrote:I wonder if members ever look at the location of fellow members on the location map - Ever notice I am standing alone at the tip of Africa, while there's a bunch of members all clustered and standing together in the UK.

A bit intimidating at first glance.....lol

Stephen D. Birch

I frankly wonder if members know where the location map is located! Or if they would be intimidated by it if they knew....You really don't do yourself any good by making rather pointless posts like that... IMO of course...

Why don't you just post the articles which will be appearing all over Portugal so that we can see where you are up to with your quest?

If you ignore him he will be left talking to himself. If he wants to be taken seriously he will have to prove it, simple. Let's be patient and wait to see what he proves himself to be?

BTW, when I clicked on Jean's link I don't see location. Instead I saw what posters viewing topics. And strangely mine shows "view who is online" - erm what the hell is that? I never view who is online. Can't get clued up...

by MrsC 12.10.12 9:35

Stephen Birch wrote:To The Forum

Given that I do not know who is watching this Forum, and who knows who, I need to be careful. Sometimes I will give the Forum misinformation as a diversion tactic from what I am actually doing - I need to keep Mc Cann's / Murat supporters guessing.

"What is his next move, what is he doing" ??

The reason I do make posts in this Forum, is for those people, who I hope are the majority, who really want Madeleine to be found.

One thing you can be assured of, I will not give up on my quest to recover the remains of Madeleine Mc Cann.

Yours sincerely

Stephen D. Birch

Oh please...

This is laughable.

Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat - Page 26 1255849920

I will come back and apologise if I am mistaken.

Walter Scott · by david_uk 12.10.12 9:45

MrsC wrote:
Stephen Birch wrote:To The Forum

Given that I do not know who is watching this Forum, and who knows who, I need to be careful. Sometimes I will give the Forum misinformation as a diversion tactic from what I am actually doing - I need to keep Mc Cann's / Murat supporters guessing.

"What is his next move, what is he doing" ??

The reason I do make posts in this Forum, is for those people, who I hope are the majority, who really want Madeleine to be found.

One thing you can be assured of, I will not give up on my quest to recover the remains of Madeleine Mc Cann.

Yours sincerely

Stephen D. Birch

Oh please...

This is laughable.

I will come back and apologise if I am mistaken.

I dont think you will be eating any hats any time soon!! titter

by **Nina** 12.10.12 12:00

I am online and not on the map laughat

Always knew I was of no consequence sad

by ShuBob 12.10.12 13:32

Oops! Wrong thread.

by Guest 12.10.12 14:12

I have split this topic, there is now a thread in Technical Help called PORTAL PAGE/Map page for comments on who is where on the map, etc.

by Stephen Birch 12.10.12 18:06

MASSIVE PRESS COVERAGE OF MY FINDINGS APPEARING OVER PORTUGAL THIS WEEKEND.....

Regards

Stephen D. Birch

by ShuBob 12.10.12 18:32

In other news, Martin Grime's expertise in cadaver dogs handling has led to a conviction in an American court. Can't argue with dogs I say.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hCmDxU10Aj7NgnBiJSf5OwgClqNw?docId=bb6e4630578741d7a34eeeb55f2181a4

by Guest 12.10.12 23:20

Some people we know would argue with a signpost.......

I'm looking forward to the coverage from Portugal that we've been promised for this weekend.

by jozi 13.10.12 10:59

Stephen Birch wrote:MASSIVE PRESS COVERAGE OF MY FINDINGS APPEARING OVER PORTUGAL THIS WEEKEND.....

Regards

Stephen D. Birch

Has anyone seen this news from Portugal ?

by Guest 13.10.12 11:09

http://www.onlinenewspapers.com/portugal.htm

There's a lot to go through if anyone has an hour or so to spare!

by Guest 13.10.12 11:16

Yes this is in the CM

Experts argue searches for Maddie

South African researcher insists that it is necessary to investigate the best location ensures, Maddie may have been buried. To read the CM

According to Birch, photos backyard Murat taken in May and October 2007 show that debris prevented normal use of an onsite georradar

Not full story says exclusive in the paper. Look at the picture at the top and click on that and it brings up just the small text I have posted above.

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/peritos-defendem-buscas-por-maddie

by Guest 13.10.12 11:22

candyfloss wrote:Yes this is in the CM

Experts argue searches for Maddie

South African researcher insists that it is necessary to investigate the best location ensures, Maddie may have been buried. To read the CM

According to Birch, photos backyard Murat taken in May and October 2007 show that debris prevented normal use of an onsite georradar

Not full story says exclusive in the paper. Look at the picture at the top and click on that and it brings up just the small text I have posted above.

[url=http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/peritos-defendem-buscas-por-maddie

http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/peritos-defendem-buscas-por-maddie[/quote[/url]]

From above link.......

Investigator ensures that Maddie's body in the backyard of Murat - Page 26 2012-10-13004716_CA967162-B341-4FEB-88DD-FECB0766BF67$$738d42d9-134c-4fbe-a85a-da00e83fdc20$$0f5d1292-a57b-41c6-b61f-c9641eeb3567$$img_carrouselTopHomepage$$pt$$1

by jozi 13.10.12 11:34

candyfloss wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Yes this is in the CM

Experts argue searches for Maddie

South African researcher insists that it is necessary to investigate the best location ensures, Maddie may have been buried. To read the CM

According to Birch, photos backyard Murat taken in May and October 2007 show that debris prevented normal use of an onsite georradar

Not full story says exclusive in the paper. Look at the picture at the top and click on that and it brings up just the small text I have posted above.

[url=http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/peritos-defendem-buscas-por-maddie
http://www.cmjornal.xl.pt/detalhe/noticias/nacional/portugal/peritos-defendem-buscas-por-maddie[/quote[/url]]

From above link.......

This looks so amateurish, is this the machine ?

by Guest 13.10.12 11:35

It looks like a glorified lawn mower to me.