Re: Oporto PJ goes through Madeleine McCann case with a fine toothed comb

by Guest 10.03.12 13:25

It’s just dawned on me. If the case got reopened, then all of the previous arguidos, would once again become suspects. But as it stands, because a different arm of the Portuguese Police force are reviewing the case, Kate, Gerry and Robert Murat, have escaped that privilege. Well for now, anyway. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

by **PeterMac** 10.03.12 14:32

The Daily Mail is now taking comments on the article about the Oporto crack team being put on the case.

The Oporto Crack Team. Sounds a bit like one of their previous detectives, one Sr. D. Antonio Jimenez Raso.
Though he was dealing in pure cocaine, rather than crack, so that's OK then.

by aiyoyo 10.03.12 16:06

Stella wrote:It’s just dawned on me. If the case got reopened, then all of the previous arguidos, would once again become suspects. But as it stands, because a different arm of the Portuguese Police force are reviewing the case, Kate, Gerry and Robert Murat, have escaped that privilege. Well for now, anyway. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Well, Stella, I'm afraid that is not quite right. The case is not re-opened. The protocol is that only the Attorney General has remit to reopen only if there is new evidence justifies that. And I would imagine the definition of new evidence to mean not already on files.

What has happened is the PJ has assigned the Oporto team to work with the Yard to do a joint review.
It is reported new elements brought about the Oporto team appointment, so the talked about "new elements" could only have been found from within the process files by the Yard , which the Portuguese authority deemed significant enough to task an independent of PJ to join the Yard's review.

Since we are not told what the new elements were who is to know files submitted to them by MF didn't contribute to the new elements?
No one knows what these specific new elements were, but suffice to say they couldn't have been fresh outside elements else it would be reason enough to justify the AG to re-open the investigation. By logical deducing the new elements must therefore be from files.
IMV, the Yard must have reached the stage where it is imperative for them to rope the Portuguese on board so that they can start exercising their investigative remit empowered to them by the UK Government. It's probable the Yard is at a stage where embarking on the re-interview and reconstruction is inevitable next step in their Review.

The Review team, like the Investigative team before them, have only two directions to look at - abduction or homicide. If there's no evidence to support one then it must be the other. So, if they are not following up Mccanns detectives pseudo-sightings, what could they be left with? Surely it would be to follow up what PJ were unable to complete due to obstruction from the mccanns and their friends by their refusal to participate in the reconstruction.

Without PJ's cooperation, the Yard's review would be worthless as the Portuguese are not obliged, in fact not legal, to recognize it under their jurisdiction. Of course I could be over optimistic. This review is not over by a long haul and I suspect it is only the start once they commence the reconstruction.

by Newintown 11.03.12 0:53

I wonder if SY would have been able to gain access to credit card receipts, medical records etc seeing as SY are in the UK when the PJ were unable to do that as they were working in a different country, or would SY only be able to access them if the case is re-opened. Perhaps they have gained access to them and have found something of interest, if Sr Amaral said in his recent interview that "things don't look good for the McCanns".

by aiyoyo 11.03.12 4:13

PeterMac wrote:Mail still accepting comments,

I am still waiting to read, after all this time, in any newspaper, an open version of the events which took place on the night in question from the friends of missing child's parents. The question is why? - Alonso, Wirral,UK **** - - Because they are protected by the most feared libel lawyers in the land. The next question is the same as yours - Why ?
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Geez, the most fear law lawyers in the land must be "humbled" or should it be "honoured" they got mentioned and recognised for their reputation!

by aiyoyo 11.03.12 4:17

mrscee wrote:
aquila wrote: I did notice that DM chose the worst possible photograph of CM though - he really needs to give them a call imo - [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

Absolutely terrifying I agree! Looks like he has never seen the sunlight.

You mean he looks as if he has been smoked out of his "lair" and his appearance is shocking the daylight out of people?

by aiyoyo 11.03.12 4:36

candyfloss wrote:

Mr Monteiro's long-awaited decision to shelve the 15-month police investigation came as a huge relief to the McCanns, but their spokesman said there could be no sense of jubilation while their daughter was still missing.

It's a mystery how they always managed to wake up their sleeping spokesmen in Portugal and UK to exercise their mouth muscles to script as needed! Why if they are SO desperate to search for Maddie are they hiding behind the skirts (so to speak) of their spokesmen, what good would that do to progress the search?

The McCanns will then have 20 days to appeal against the Portuguese attorney general's decision to drop the case, although this is unlikely.

'They welcome this news but the whole thing has been an unnecessary distraction since September,' said Mr Mitchell.
'The main thing now is to get everything back to finding Madeleine. The only thing they care about is finding Madeleine.
'We hope that the Portuguese authorities will continue to co-operate with their private investigation.'

[i]This underscored bit is so laughable and factually wrong in many places in just that one liner!
Holy cow, you would think the mccanns are running the investigation.
"will continue"...err since when the Portuguese authorities were doing as they implied (ie co-operating with the pte dicks)?
BTW, why do they expect that only of the "Portuguese authorities", why not the Yard?
Did they have the same galls to write that to Portuguese or the Yard?

by aiyoyo 11.03.12 4:38

candyfloss wrote:

Mr Monteiro's long-awaited decision to shelve the 15-month police investigation came as a huge relief to the McCanns, but their spokesman said there could be no sense of jubilation while their daughter was still missing.

It's a mystery how they always managed to wake up their sleeping spokesmen in Portugal and UK to exercise their mouth muscles to script as needed! Why if they are SO desperate to search for Maddie are they hiding behind the skirts (so to speak) of their spokesmen, what good would that do to progress the search?

The McCanns will then have 20 days to appeal against the Portuguese attorney general's decision to drop the case, although this is unlikely.

'They welcome this news but the whole thing has been an unnecessary distraction since September,' said Mr Mitchell.
'The main thing now is to get everything back to finding Madeleine. The only thing they care about is finding Madeleine.
'We hope that the Portuguese authorities will continue to co-operate with their private investigation.'

[i]This underscored bit is so laughable and factually wrong in many places in just that one liner!
Holy cow, you would think the mccanns are running the investigation.
"will continue"...err since when the Portuguese authorities were doing as they implied (ie co-operating with the pte dicks)?
BTW, why do they expect that only of the "Portuguese authorities", why not the Yard?
Did they have the same galls to write that to Portuguese or the Yard?

I am surprised they didn't walk in to the Yard's office and hand in all their pte investigations works and leads........ if the only thing they care about is finding Madeleine?

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