Would this account for the unprecedented high level of political support?

tigger wrote:2007 was the year the banks started to crumble. Anybody in the know would have tried to safeguard themselves in some way quite early.
The Landsbanki connection and Naylor in particular are certainly of interest linked to an accidental Oppenheim.

?? you have lost me there, what do you mean !!

Landsbanki went spectacularly bust didn't it? I'll have to look it up.
I think it's perfectly possible that some industrial/finance people came together, although it beats me why there? But I still think that the T9 are way too small fry for big boys like that. If you're going to use corruption, it's better to use people with power and influence.
They also had their children with them, wouldn't it have been better to use the golf weekends?

Not really, as not everyone, especially women play golf. Although I do think that week was chosen because of a big game of golf. One guest in particular, Donald Booker-Milburn, is a serious golfing enthusiast. He even wrote an article on Royal Dornoch once.

Mind you, I think the letter from whathisname Edward.. stinks. Badly written too. Somebody lean on him?
I also wouldn't be surprised to find that the Oppenheimers live relatively sober lives. Very rich people often do. I had a couple of millionaire friends who just loved to get a bargain of any kind and hardly ever ate out!
Perhaps this is why Margaret Hodge nee Oppenheimer, got into politics. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]

But shouldn't we have seen something in the T7 coming out? anyone getting richer or getting yummy jobs?
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Above is the landsbanki site, they are bust and winding up in November it seems. And! wasn't Nick Clegg working for them once? I think his Daddy got him the job.

I meant the 'accidentally there' Oppenheimer as in accidentally on purpose?
Yes, being in the right place at the wrong time.
If they're so fond of golf, they would go there quite often perhaps? Like Gerry, who'd already been there a couple of times on his own. Exactly !! but I think Gerry had been there once before, not twice ??

There may have been a meeting as you say, but perhaps just between some top finance people who were in the know

Yes and all the rest got a free ride so to speak. It would also explain Gerry's "I'm not here to enjoy myself" comment, as he was quite possibly there on business. about the sinking ship of finance. 2007 was also the year of Lehman brothers, it was a desperate year for any financier. They would have known well in advance of us.
If there was going to be publicity, it would be quite understandable the Oppenheimer (forgot his name Edward...) Philip Edmonds got out immediately. He didn't want it known that he was there in the company of others like Naylor. But clearly the abduction was a surprise for him and that's why he's backing them up. Agree.
No more questions,police know all, perfectly upright nice people, very sad.
I would think that any connection with Landsbanki CO might be very incriminating.
So you may well still be on to something really interesting, I just don't think the T9 are at all connected. That depends on the actual connection. It might have been business, it might have been acquaintances, or even pleasure. One thing is for sure, there were far to many Doctors all in the one resort for something not connected to anything medical.
When did Naylor leave? Early too, that we do not yet know.

because I think he and Gerry were acquaintanted or perhaps both masons, he may even had his daughter signed in instead of Maddie. That's what the creche sheets look like happened, but until they have been forensically examined by a handwriting expert, we cannot say for sure.

Gerry could have dreamt up some reason. But if he also got out as fast as he could, that's very interesting but probably nothing to do with Maddie. There is nothing to suggest Naylor did leave early, but seeing as Edmonds didn't check out properly before he left, maybe Naylor did the same thing ??
Wow Stella, what if you revealed the deal of the century between financiers to save their fortunes from the crisis!

There has been a team of people working in the background on all of this information, they also deserve a big thumbs up. [You must be registered and logged in to see this image.]
Sorry, but I don't think these T9 are players in that sort of game. Not even small fry.

Maybe they were there for the first round of introductions or some kind of team building exercise?

Cheshire Cat wrote:Out of high season Algarve is a popular conference venue. The Ocean Club is an ideal choice with its meeting room, excellent facilities and golf courses close by.

Cheshire Cat wrote:
Note: Enigma Diagnostics is part owned by the MoD and the success of Enigma is highlighted in the 2007/08 report and accounts.

Stella wrote:

Cheshire Cat wrote:
Note: Enigma Diagnostics is part owned by the MoD and the success of Enigma is highlighted in the 2007/08 report and accounts.

Which would be another good reason for Government intervention.

Tony Bennett wrote:Look at the shadows on both Dr Gerald McCann and Madeleine and it's clear (whether the photo is photoshopped or not) that both individuals were photographed close to noon. In late April the sun has not yet reached its zenith by some way - that comes of course around 21 June. I have to say that if indeed the photo was taken 2.5 hours after noon AND nearly two months before the summer solstice then quite frankly the shadows on both Dr McCann and Madeleine look suspiciously short.

Cheshire Cat wrote:The presence of Weinberger suggests to me that the meeting was not to resurrect the Pathways bid but rather to discuss an innovative product.

How would Lady Margaret Hodge's nephew, Philip Martin Edmonds, one of the 11-strong members of the Board of Directors of the world's largest steel firm, Stemor Ltd., fit into this scenario? (if at all?)

ShrinkingViolet wrote:It could be possible that the reason that the McCanns have been so extraordinarily protected is because their trip to PDL wasn't a family holiday. That was a disguise for a meeting between various parties with interest in the steel, medical and manufacturing industries.

Cheshire Cat wrote:Paul Weinberger was Director for Clinical Development at Enigma Diagnostics back in May 2007.
Enigma Diagnostics is highlighted in the DSTL accounts for 07/08. DSTL is MoD. Check out page 17 and page 37 para (e):
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ShrinkingViolet wrote:It could be possible that the reason that the McCanns have been so extraordinarily protected is because their trip to PDL wasn't a family holiday. That was a disguise for a meeting between various parties with interest in the steel, medical and manufacturing industries.

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The 'family holiday' a smoke screen which would play better with the public rather than the scenario of a child being left without a baby sitter because of a corporate 'jolly'. Did the business meeting ever go ahead or was there a tragic incident early on causing those first few days to be dominated by the crisis control people?

Stella wrote:

Cheshire Cat wrote:

The 'family holiday' a smoke screen which would play better with the public rather than the scenario of a child being left without a baby sitter because of a corporate 'jolly'. Did the business meeting ever go ahead or was there a tragic incident early on causing those first few days to be dominated by the crisis control people?

[You must be registered and logged in to see this image.] A corporate jolly is exactly what I think that was and most probably the reason why the PJ wanted to see who paid for all the accomodation. The PJ really needed to look at ALL the bookings that week, to see who else was in the 'wider agenda' group.

Some of the parents were in a larger group. Most of them worked for the NHS and had met many years before in Leicestershire. Now they lived in different parts of the UK, and this holiday was their opportunity to catch up, to introduce their children, to reunite. They booked a large table every night in the Tapas. We called them "the Doctors". Sometimes we would sit out on our balcony and their laughter would float up around us. One man was the joker. He had a loud Glaswegian accent. He was Gerry McCann. He played tennis with Jes.

We had booked a table for two at Tapas and were placed next to the Doctors' regular table. One by one, they started to arrive. The men came first. Gerry McCann started chatting across to Jes about tennis.

Cheshire Cat wrote:
This well known article from Bridget O'Donnell seems to be written in order to paint the picture of NHS Doctors on a typical family holiday.

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Stella wrote:

ShrinkingViolet wrote:It could be possible that the reason that the McCanns have been so extraordinarily protected is because their trip to PDL wasn't a family holiday. That was a disguise for a meeting between various parties with interest in the steel, medical and manufacturing industries.

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Assuming there was a meeting...

Another party with an interest in that group, via Enigma Diagnostics and the NHS, would be the British Government.

The 'family holiday' a smoke screen which would play better with the public rather than the scenario of a child being left without a baby sitter because of a corporate 'jolly'. Did the business meeting ever go ahead or was there a tragic incident early on causing those first few days to be dominated by the crisis control people?

ShrinkingViolet wrote:I'm scratching my head here, trying to understand why Oppenheimer or Margaret Hodge or anyone else would think that the blanket coverage of Maddie on the news or the setting up of the Fund was a GOOD idea.