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Jane Tanner changed her description of this man on a number of occasions, from not seeing his face, to assisting with an e-fit, to identifying Robert Murat. Mm11

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Summary of information which suggests that Jane Tanner’s account of seeing a man carrying a child was a complete fabrication

These factual matters suggest that, throughout, Jane Tanner has fabricated her alleged ‘sighting’ of a man carrying a child.

1. Seconds before she claims to have seen the man carrying a child, she states firmly that she passed right by two men. One of those was Dr Gerald McCann. The other was a friend he had apparently made on holiday, Jeremy Wilkins. In their statements, neither man could remember seeing her pass by.

2. Further, there was a clear contradiction between Ms Tanner’s account of which side of the road the two men were standing on and the statements of the two men on the same issue.

3. Ms Tanner clearly conveyed her sighting to Dr Gerald McCann, Dr Russell O’Brien and other members of the group, because her claimed ‘sighting’ was used to create two handwritten timelines of events that night which were handed to the Portuguese police at around midnight of Thursday 3/Friday 4 May. These handwritten timelines were made on the cover of Madeleine’s Sainsbury’s Activity Sticker Book, which had been torn off. It is almost certain that this action (of tearing off Madeleine’s activity sticker book cover) must have been performed by one of the McCanns, presumably Dr Gerald McCann. The person who wrote these two timelines, Dr Russell O’Brien, said in a written statement that he had been handed the torn-off cover and said that ‘he thought it was the back of a cereal packet’. It is claimed by Dr Kate McCann that she did not know of this ‘sighting’ until the following day. She further claims that Ms Tanner did not tell her about the ‘sighting’ until about 24 hours after the event. It is submitted that it is not credible that, the group having knowledge of Ms Tanner’s sighting, and the information being recorded on an Activity Sticker Book belong to Madeleine’s parents, that she did not know about the ‘sighting’ on the night in question and did not know about it until the following day. Dr Kate McCann was with her husband nearly all the time following their report of Madeleine’s disappearance.

4. Ms Tanner’s original description of the ‘sighting’ was vague, and spoke of a bundle being carried. Then there were references to the child having been seen by Ms Tanner being carried in a blanket [See e.g. Reference 17 above: “how she watched the tot being taken away in a blanket”]. Later, her recollections of the person she said she saw became more and more detailed, contrary to the process by which memory and recall normally operate.

5. In her second and subsequent statements, for example, she felt able to describe in detail what kind of shoes the man was wearing and felt able to describe in great detail the type of pyjamas the child was wearing, right down to the length of the pyjamas, the frilly edges at the bottom of the pyjamas, the colour of the pyjamas and even the pattern of her pyjamas. It was nearly dark at the time.

6. Analysis of her various statements about the sighting show that hey are long and rambling with a huge amount of hesitation - typical signs that the truth is not being told

7. As is clear from the above, and despite the massive publicity claiming that Madeleine had been abducted, the Portuguese Police were from Day One so unconvinced by Ms Tanner’s evidence that they discounted it completely.

8. The Portuguese Police were unwilling to release Jane Tanner’s description of her ‘sighting’, and were only prompted to allow Dr Gerald McCann to release a description of Jane Tanner’s sighting following heavy pressure led by Gordon Brown, Britain Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time, and the British Ambassador to Portugal.

9. On 13 May 2007, the Portuguese Police suspected that a Mr Robert Murat might be connected in some way with what was thought to be the abduction of Madeleine McCann. They caused Jane Tanner to be placed in an unmarked police car with blacked out windows through which Ms Tanner could see clearly. The police induced several people including Robert Murat to walk past the car. As is explained in Dr Goncalo Amaral’s book, ‘The Truth About A Lie’, Ms Tanner was adamant that Robert Murat was the man she claimed to have seen carrying a chid 10 days earlier. The fact that she did identify Robert Murat has not been explicitly denied and was implicitly acknowledged not least by Clarence Mitchell, when he was interviewed by Channel 4 on this very issue. His carefully-chosen words were: “Jane Tanner did not actually name Robert Murat and you can go back and check for yourselves, it is all in the police records”. This was a typical statement from a man used to the arts of a public relations adviser. It was a truthful statement but also one that tried to conceal the real truth, namely that Ms Tanner did positively assert that she was sure that Robert Murat was the man she had seen carrying a child at around 9.15pm on the night Madeleine was reported missing. The first point that needs to be made about this is that Robert Murat did not match the description Ms Tanner gave of the man she said she saw. By contrast with her description of the man she saw, Robert Murat is:

a) taller

b) of greater build

c) had short hair, and

d) always wears glasses because of an eye defect.

10. The second point to be made is that, subsequently, Jane Tanner changed her position, and attempted to deny that she had identified Robert Murat. Dr Kate McCann in her book ‘madeleine’ spent three pages of her book (pages 134-6) with a rambling explanation of why Jane tanner had identified Robert Murat. In terms, Dr McCann says that Jane Tanner may have been mistaken in her identification of Murat. Yet her adamant identification of him was use by the Portuguese Police to pull Robert Murat in for questioning the day afterwards (14 May).

11. The McCann Team did not release an artist’s sketch of the abductor to the public until 25 October 2007 and it was first seen by the public the following day, 26 October. That was just a week short of six months after the night Madeleine was reported missing. This question must be asked: what exactly was the point of releasing this sketch to the public nearly six months after the event?

12. During November 2007 to January 2008, the McCann Team worked on preparing for a huge publicity event centred around the statements of a Ms Gail Cooper, who said she had seen a suspicious man in Praia da Luz in the days before Madeleine McCann was reported missing. The same ‘forensic artist’ who had produced the sketch of the man released on 25 October, Melissa Little, now also produced an artist’s sketch of this man (now known variously as ‘Cooperman’, ‘Monster man’ or ‘George Harrison man’). The sketches of Melissa Little, based on Gail Cooper’s description, showed a man full-face with a number of detailed features, notably a large moustache and straggly hair. These sketches were shown to Jane Tanner, who had:

(a) already given a description of the man she claimed to have seen and that she had seen no part of his face, and

(b) already adamantly identified Robert Murat as the man she said she had seen on 3 May 2007.

Despite that, Jane Tanner now said that she was 80% sure that the new person drawn by Melissa Little was the same person she had seen on 3 May. However:


  • She clearly admitted originally that she had never seen the face of the man she said she’s seen, and
  • Melissa Little’s ‘Cooperman’ looked nothing like Robert Murat.


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In August 2009, in a press conference called by the McCann Team about another event claimed by them as being a ‘strong lead’ (namely a British banker revealing that two years previously he had had a conversation with an Australian woman who looked like Victoria Beckham on Barcelona dockside at 2am after several hours drinking), the McCanns’ chief private investigator at the time, said that when Jane Tanner saw a figure carrying away a child on 3 May 2007, she might have seen a woman, not a man.

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Post by Silentscope 06.03.21 10:06

‘Kate was moaning, saying you had been gone a long time’ said Jane T,
‘Probably watching the Football’

No Liverpool, or Everton game that evening Jane, what could he have been watching? https://www.skysports.com/football/fixtures-results/3-May-2007

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Post by Verdi 06.03.21 12:09

It's difficult to understand how and why Jane Tanner was selected, chosen, to be the master player of the phantom abductor. Unlike Gerry McCann who is used to speaking in public, arrogantly putting himself upfront as the be all and end all, Jane Tanner was not cut-out for off the cuff deception, or even acting the part. I think it apparent from her wavering testimonies that she was not comfortable with the situation she found herself in and needed constant guidance on how to go forth. Even that failed as she got herself in a right muddy bluddle when carrying their portable deception from one hour to the next.

One thing for sure, the litany of deception confounded the PJ, as it continues to confound many a casual onlooker to this very day.

Maybe the saga should be renamed in honour of Jane Tanner's blunders .... 'The Phantom of the Soap Opera'!

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Post by Verdi 06.03.21 15:06

The McCanns own version of events, including Jane Tanner's evolutionary input as regards phantomman, that later turned out to be one tourist in the name of Julian Totman - so say ex-DCI Andy Redwood of the Yard.

Enter Jane Tanner at approximately 9:40 minutes..

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