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Maddie's book torn pages, with two different versions of the Tapas 9 timeline,
written by the McCann Couple and their friends previous to calling the police
Maddie’s book torn by the parents (extract)
Process: PJ apprehended document that was written by the group
Hours after the disappearance of the little English girl, the McCanns used the covers of children’s story books that belonged to their daughter, to write down details of the evening
Hours after Madeleine disappeared, the English girl’s parents tore the covers of two children’s books that the child enjoyed leafing through before going to sleep, to write down the details of the evening of the disappearance.
There, according to what can be verified by the pages that have been appended to the process, Madeleine’s parents noted the periodicity of the visits to the rooms where the various children slept and who within the group of English people had verified that nothing out of the ordinary was taking place.
The PJ appended those documents to the process on September 9 of last year, then referring that the same had been apprehended by the GNR on the night that the girl stopped being seen.
The importance of the book covers was related to the fact that the PJ considers that there was a manipulation of the testimonies – the depositions between the elements of the group were combined in a detailed manner. That was the motive why those pieces of evidence were gathered only after Gerry and Kate were made arguidos, at a time when they had already formally assumed that they were suspects.
To the authorities, it was then an important detail at that moment in the investigation, because it revealed the little girl’s parent’s concern in protecting themselves from possible responsibilities, overshadowing the preservation of objects that belonged to the child at a moment in time when she had only been missing for a few hours.
Which led the authorities to admit that there could have been a manipulation of testimonies (...).
in Correio da Manhã 18.08.2008, paper edition
Must Reads
McCann Case: Freedom of Information Act on John Buck former Ambassador
PJ Final Report - All the Investigation on the McCanns
Timeline, updated
Processo Madeleine McCann: Linha temporal manuscrita em livro infantil
Madeleine case – Final report allows for an accusation that may lead to a prison sentence between two and five years
Fiona Payne: 'Kate McCann kept putting her hands on the twins to check if they were breathing'
The Archiving of the Madeleine McCann Process: One Year On - Part I
Maddie Case Process: PJ Intercalary Report
Relatório Intercalar - Caso McCann
Gerry McCann's Boss Douglas Skehan & Brother John McCann Resign from Madeleine's Fund Director's Board
Relatório Intercalar / Conclusão - Inspector Chefe Tavares de Almeida
Foreign Office: Madeleine McCann is a missing person and there is no evidence to support whether she was or was not abducted.
A Declaration of Innocence?
They might as well pulp this one, too.
McCann's Censorship: The Injunction's Prohibitions
McCann Case: Foreign Office Secrets
Index of Official Files & Statements
McCanns fear child protection plan
(UKPA) – 2 hours ago
Missing Madeleine McCann's parents have joined the chorus of concerns about the Government's child protection policies after a top policeman quit in protest at plans to curtail his agency's independence.
Kate and Gerry McCann said it was "extremely saddening" that Jim Gamble felt he had to resign as chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) Centre.
They urged ministers to remember the importance of the "invaluable work" carried out by his organisation to protect children against abduction and abuse.
Mr Gamble believes plans to assimilate Ceop into a new National Crime Agency are not in the "best interest" of vulnerable children.
The McCanns have a close working relationship with Mr Gamble, who last year launched a new internet video aimed at pricking the conscience of the key witness who knows what happened to Madeleine when she vanished in Portugal in 2007, aged three.
Mr and Mrs McCann said in a statement: "We are certain that he will be a huge loss to the field of child protection. Knowing how committed Mr Gamble is to this cause, it is extremely saddening that he feels unable to continue to lead Ceop, apparently as a consequence of the proposed Governmental changes.
They added: "In this challenging economic climate, we urge the Government to remember the value of our children and the importance of the invaluable work which is necessary to protect them against the devastating crimes of child abduction and exploitation."
The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said it was "in firm support" of Ceop remaining as a stand-alone agency, while shadow home secretary Alan Johnson went further, saying the Government's plans "will harm child safety networks".
"Their lack of consultation has led to the resignation of Mr Gamble, who is highly respected within and outside of the organisation he served so well. His expertise will be badly missed," he said.
But Home Secretary Theresa May defended the move, saying: "The Government recognises the importance of child protection and wants to build upon the work of Ceop, but does not necessarily feel this is best done by creating a new quango."
in UKPA
Kate and Gerry McCann 'very upset' at resignation of child protection chief in row over agency merger
By Jack Doyle
Last updated at 6:21 PM on 5th October 2010
Kate and Gerry McCann weighed into the row over the future of the national anti-paedophile agency last night.
The parents of Madeleine McCann were said to be 'very upset and disappointed' by the resignation of Jim Gamble, the chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop).
Mr Gamble, a former senior police officer, resigned on Monday over plans to merge Ceop into a National Crime Agency.
Betrayal: The parents of Madeleine McCann (left) and Sarah Payne have expressed their anger over the resignation of Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre chief executive Jim Gamble over plans to merge CEOP into a National Crime Agency. The claim the plans will put children at risk
He said the move was not in the best interests of children and young people.
Sara Payne, the mother of murdered eight-year-old Sarah, went further, accusing ministers of 'betrayal'.
Mr and Mrs McCann said it was 'extremely saddening' that Mr Gamble thought he had to quit.
They said in a statement: 'We are certain that he will be a huge loss to the field of child protection.
'Knowing how committed Mr Gamble is to this cause, it is extremely saddening that he feels unable to continue to lead Ceop, apparently as a consequence of the proposed Governmental changes.
'The search for our daughter Madeleine has been greatly enhanced by the work carried out by the team at Ceop.
'We would like to thank Mr Gamble for all of his efforts, both for Madeleine and for all missing and exploited children.
'In this challenging economic climate, we urge the Government to remember the value of our children and the importance of the invaluable work which is necessary to protect them against the devastating crimes of child abduction and exploitation.'
Home Secretary Theresa May has pledged her support for efforts to protect children, but said in a statement that the country did not need a 'new quango'.
Mrs May said: 'The government recognises the importance of child protection and wants to build upon the work of CEOP, but does not necessarily feel this is best done by creating a new quango.'
A Home Office spokesman added that child protection would always be an 'absolute priority' for the Government.
He said there were 'no plans' to undermine the work of CEOP or 'threaten its vital and important work'.
'We propose to build on CEOP’s invaluable work tackling sexual exploitation of children by placing it centre stage in the fight against all forms of serious and organised crime,' he said.
'We are determined that plans for the National Crime Agency will enhance all our capabilities and discussions are ongoing about how that will be done.
'CEOP already delivers excellent work as part of the Serious Organised Crime Agency and the Government is clear this work must continue.'
But victims groups and children's representatives attacked the proposals.
Well respected: Jim Gamble was previously head of the Northern Ireland anti-terrorist intelligence unit and deputy director of the National Crime Squad
Mrs Payne, whose daughter was abducted and murdered by paedophile Roy Whiting in 2000 said Mr Gamble's departure was a 'devastating blow' for child protection.
In a joint statement with Shy Keenan and Fiona Crook - who jointly set up the campaign group The Phoenix Foundation - she said: 'We cannot begin to describe how disgusted we are with our own Government for betraying him and for betraying all of our children.
'This cannot be allowed to happen, we must stand up and fight, we must do what is right for the protection of our children against the crimes of paedophiles.'
Ceop, which was set up in 2006, was responsible for tracking paedophiles online and bringing them to court.
It is currently affiliated to the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca). But under Home Office proposals, the agency will become part of a larger National Crime Agency in 2013.
A Ceop spokesman said it was not in 'the best interests of children and young people for Ceop to be assimilated into the National Crime Agency, as was announced a short while ago'.
He added: 'This direction of travel does not seem to have changed and Ceop's chief executive, Jim Gamble, has therefore offered his resignation to the Home Secretary with a four-month notice period.'
Mr Gamble was previously head of the Northern Ireland anti-terrorist intelligence unit in Belfast and deputy director of the National Crime Squad.
He was involved in a public row with Facebook earlier this year after the site initially refused to install an anti-paedophile 'panic button' on its site, before the site finally bowed to public pressure.
The application has been downloaded tens of thousands of times since it was launched in July.
to 'look again' at the need for an independent child protection agency. [sic have no idea why the reporter forgot to add the beginning of the sentence, must be a Daily Mail thing]
She said: 'I am concerned that placing CEOP permanently within a larger law enforcement agency would not allow it to prioritise children and could lead to an imbalance in its approach by placing a disproportionate emphasis on criminal justice outcomes.
'The safety of our children is paramount. I therefore urge the Government to look again at the need for a unique and independent child protection organisation.'
in Dacre's Daily Mail
Maddie's book torn pages, with two different versions of the Tapas 9 timeline,
written by the McCann Couple and their friends previous to calling the police
Maddie’s book torn by the parents (extract)
Process: PJ apprehended document that was written by the group
Hours after the disappearance of the little English girl, the McCanns used the covers of children’s story books that belonged to their daughter, to write down details of the evening
Hours after Madeleine disappeared, the English girl’s parents tore the covers of two children’s books that the child enjoyed leafing through before going to sleep, to write down the details of the evening of the disappearance.
There, according to what can be verified by the pages that have been appended to the process, Madeleine’s parents noted the periodicity of the visits to the rooms where the various children slept and who within the group of English people had verified that nothing out of the ordinary was taking place.
The PJ appended those documents to the process on September 9 of last year, then referring that the same had been apprehended by the GNR on the night that the girl stopped being seen.
The importance of the book covers was related to the fact that the PJ considers that there was a manipulation of the testimonies – the depositions between the elements of the group were combined in a detailed manner. That was the motive why those pieces of evidence were gathered only after Gerry and Kate were made arguidos, at a time when they had already formally assumed that they were suspects.
To the authorities, it was then an important detail at that moment in the investigation, because it revealed the little girl’s parent’s concern in protecting themselves from possible responsibilities, overshadowing the preservation of objects that belonged to the child at a moment in time when she had only been missing for a few hours.
Which led the authorities to admit that there could have been a manipulation of testimonies (...).
in Correio da Manhã 18.08.2008, paper edition
Must Reads
McCann Case: Freedom of Information Act on John Buck former Ambassador
PJ Final Report - All the Investigation on the McCanns
Timeline, updated
Processo Madeleine McCann: Linha temporal manuscrita em livro infantil
Madeleine case – Final report allows for an accusation that may lead to a prison sentence between two and five years
Fiona Payne: 'Kate McCann kept putting her hands on the twins to check if they were breathing'
The Archiving of the Madeleine McCann Process: One Year On - Part I
Maddie Case Process: PJ Intercalary Report
Relatório Intercalar - Caso McCann
Gerry McCann's Boss Douglas Skehan & Brother John McCann Resign from Madeleine's Fund Director's Board
Relatório Intercalar / Conclusão - Inspector Chefe Tavares de Almeida
Foreign Office: Madeleine McCann is a missing person and there is no evidence to support whether she was or was not abducted.
A Declaration of Innocence?
They might as well pulp this one, too.
McCann's Censorship: The Injunction's Prohibitions
McCann Case: Foreign Office Secrets
Index of Official Files & Statements
McCanns fear child protection plan
(UKPA) – 2 hours ago
Missing Madeleine McCann's parents have joined the chorus of concerns about the Government's child protection policies after a top policeman quit in protest at plans to curtail his agency's independence.
Kate and Gerry McCann said it was "extremely saddening" that Jim Gamble felt he had to resign as chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection (Ceop) Centre.
They urged ministers to remember the importance of the "invaluable work" carried out by his organisation to protect children against abduction and abuse.
Mr Gamble believes plans to assimilate Ceop into a new National Crime Agency are not in the "best interest" of vulnerable children.
The McCanns have a close working relationship with Mr Gamble, who last year launched a new internet video aimed at pricking the conscience of the key witness who knows what happened to Madeleine when she vanished in Portugal in 2007, aged three.
Mr and Mrs McCann said in a statement: "We are certain that he will be a huge loss to the field of child protection. Knowing how committed Mr Gamble is to this cause, it is extremely saddening that he feels unable to continue to lead Ceop, apparently as a consequence of the proposed Governmental changes.
They added: "In this challenging economic climate, we urge the Government to remember the value of our children and the importance of the invaluable work which is necessary to protect them against the devastating crimes of child abduction and exploitation."
The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) said it was "in firm support" of Ceop remaining as a stand-alone agency, while shadow home secretary Alan Johnson went further, saying the Government's plans "will harm child safety networks".
"Their lack of consultation has led to the resignation of Mr Gamble, who is highly respected within and outside of the organisation he served so well. His expertise will be badly missed," he said.
But Home Secretary Theresa May defended the move, saying: "The Government recognises the importance of child protection and wants to build upon the work of Ceop, but does not necessarily feel this is best done by creating a new quango."
in UKPA
Kate and Gerry McCann 'very upset' at resignation of child protection chief in row over agency merger
By Jack Doyle
Last updated at 6:21 PM on 5th October 2010
Kate and Gerry McCann weighed into the row over the future of the national anti-paedophile agency last night.
The parents of Madeleine McCann were said to be 'very upset and disappointed' by the resignation of Jim Gamble, the chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop).
Mr Gamble, a former senior police officer, resigned on Monday over plans to merge Ceop into a National Crime Agency.
Betrayal: The parents of Madeleine McCann (left) and Sarah Payne have expressed their anger over the resignation of Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre chief executive Jim Gamble over plans to merge CEOP into a National Crime Agency. The claim the plans will put children at risk
He said the move was not in the best interests of children and young people.
Sara Payne, the mother of murdered eight-year-old Sarah, went further, accusing ministers of 'betrayal'.
Mr and Mrs McCann said it was 'extremely saddening' that Mr Gamble thought he had to quit.
They said in a statement: 'We are certain that he will be a huge loss to the field of child protection.
'Knowing how committed Mr Gamble is to this cause, it is extremely saddening that he feels unable to continue to lead Ceop, apparently as a consequence of the proposed Governmental changes.
'The search for our daughter Madeleine has been greatly enhanced by the work carried out by the team at Ceop.
'We would like to thank Mr Gamble for all of his efforts, both for Madeleine and for all missing and exploited children.
'In this challenging economic climate, we urge the Government to remember the value of our children and the importance of the invaluable work which is necessary to protect them against the devastating crimes of child abduction and exploitation.'
Home Secretary Theresa May has pledged her support for efforts to protect children, but said in a statement that the country did not need a 'new quango'.
Mrs May said: 'The government recognises the importance of child protection and wants to build upon the work of CEOP, but does not necessarily feel this is best done by creating a new quango.'
A Home Office spokesman added that child protection would always be an 'absolute priority' for the Government.
He said there were 'no plans' to undermine the work of CEOP or 'threaten its vital and important work'.
'We propose to build on CEOP’s invaluable work tackling sexual exploitation of children by placing it centre stage in the fight against all forms of serious and organised crime,' he said.
'We are determined that plans for the National Crime Agency will enhance all our capabilities and discussions are ongoing about how that will be done.
'CEOP already delivers excellent work as part of the Serious Organised Crime Agency and the Government is clear this work must continue.'
But victims groups and children's representatives attacked the proposals.
Well respected: Jim Gamble was previously head of the Northern Ireland anti-terrorist intelligence unit and deputy director of the National Crime Squad
Mrs Payne, whose daughter was abducted and murdered by paedophile Roy Whiting in 2000 said Mr Gamble's departure was a 'devastating blow' for child protection.
In a joint statement with Shy Keenan and Fiona Crook - who jointly set up the campaign group The Phoenix Foundation - she said: 'We cannot begin to describe how disgusted we are with our own Government for betraying him and for betraying all of our children.
'This cannot be allowed to happen, we must stand up and fight, we must do what is right for the protection of our children against the crimes of paedophiles.'
Ceop, which was set up in 2006, was responsible for tracking paedophiles online and bringing them to court.
It is currently affiliated to the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca). But under Home Office proposals, the agency will become part of a larger National Crime Agency in 2013.
A Ceop spokesman said it was not in 'the best interests of children and young people for Ceop to be assimilated into the National Crime Agency, as was announced a short while ago'.
He added: 'This direction of travel does not seem to have changed and Ceop's chief executive, Jim Gamble, has therefore offered his resignation to the Home Secretary with a four-month notice period.'
Mr Gamble was previously head of the Northern Ireland anti-terrorist intelligence unit in Belfast and deputy director of the National Crime Squad.
He was involved in a public row with Facebook earlier this year after the site initially refused to install an anti-paedophile 'panic button' on its site, before the site finally bowed to public pressure.
The application has been downloaded tens of thousands of times since it was launched in July.
to 'look again' at the need for an independent child protection agency. [sic have no idea why the reporter forgot to add the beginning of the sentence, must be a Daily Mail thing]
She said: 'I am concerned that placing CEOP permanently within a larger law enforcement agency would not allow it to prioritise children and could lead to an imbalance in its approach by placing a disproportionate emphasis on criminal justice outcomes.
'The safety of our children is paramount. I therefore urge the Government to look again at the need for a unique and independent child protection organisation.'
in Dacre's Daily Mail
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Re: A Self-Evident Truth: McCanns Fear Child Protection Plan
Tuesday, 5 October 2010
Kate and Gerry McCann 'very upset' at Loosing Their Protector
Well they would be wouldn't they.
But then I think anybody would be upset loosing a man who, from his position as the chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, had this to say about them:
And the date for this unequivocal message of support? ONE MONTH, THIRTY DAYS AFTER THE McCANNS WERE DECLARED PERSONS OF INTEREST (Arguidos) IN THE DEATH AND DISAPPEARANCE OF THEIR DAUGHTER MADELEINE McCANN.
An involvement I might add, for which they have never been exonerated. But this is not about the McCanns, this is about Jim Gamble. A man who abused his position to such an extent that his message of support if not downright criminal, then borders it as to make no difference.
Talk about resigning! that message alone should have seen him sacked, on the spot, there and then. And this is the crux of this thing, no copper, let alone one of his standing, should be within a country mile of a suspect, let alone supporting the bugger. Stroll on!
So please, for shame, don't give me the nine of hearts about what a wonderful bloke Jim Gamble is, he's as bent as the proverbial.
Joana has articles from the Press Association and the Mail.
And the same applies to this lot. Not within a million miles should they be of the McCanns, let alone a link from Leicester Police's web page to the bloody McCanns own page of lies, nonsense and fraud.
Stroll on! the world's gone fucking mad!
http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspot.com/2010/10/kate-and-gerry-mccann-very-upset-at.html
Kate and Gerry McCann 'very upset' at Loosing Their Protector
Well they would be wouldn't they.
But then I think anybody would be upset loosing a man who, from his position as the chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, had this to say about them:
"WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE McCANN FAMILY," he says, sitting in his glass-walled office in Pimlico, Central London.
THEY ARE TO BE APPLAUDED FOR THEIR TIRELESS WORK TO KEEP THE CAMPAIGN TO FIND THEIR DAUGHTER IN THE PUBLIC CONCIOUSNESS. IT IS A CASE FOR EVERY PARENT OF "THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I."
And the date for this unequivocal message of support? ONE MONTH, THIRTY DAYS AFTER THE McCANNS WERE DECLARED PERSONS OF INTEREST (Arguidos) IN THE DEATH AND DISAPPEARANCE OF THEIR DAUGHTER MADELEINE McCANN.
An involvement I might add, for which they have never been exonerated. But this is not about the McCanns, this is about Jim Gamble. A man who abused his position to such an extent that his message of support if not downright criminal, then borders it as to make no difference.
Talk about resigning! that message alone should have seen him sacked, on the spot, there and then. And this is the crux of this thing, no copper, let alone one of his standing, should be within a country mile of a suspect, let alone supporting the bugger. Stroll on!
So please, for shame, don't give me the nine of hearts about what a wonderful bloke Jim Gamble is, he's as bent as the proverbial.
Joana has articles from the Press Association and the Mail.
And the same applies to this lot. Not within a million miles should they be of the McCanns, let alone a link from Leicester Police's web page to the bloody McCanns own page of lies, nonsense and fraud.
Stroll on! the world's gone fucking mad!
http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspot.com/2010/10/kate-and-gerry-mccann-very-upset-at.html
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Re: A Self-Evident Truth: McCanns Fear Child Protection Plan
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'The search for our daughter Madeleine has been greatly enhanced by the work carried out by the team at Ceop. ….mccanns
A man who abused his position to such an extent that his message of support if not downright criminal, then borders it as to make no difference…….Joanna Morais
Jim Gamble is not fit to head CEOP. In fact he should have been removed for adopting a biased position.
A person in that role absolutely has got to be neutral.
The protection of children should be paramount objective and an organisation for that purpose should be objective regardless.
"The Government recognises the importance of child protection and wants to build upon the work of Ceop, but does not necessarily feel this is best done by creating a new quango."……Theresa May
No law enforcing entity should be quango and above the FOI Act. Their accountability should be subjected to public query.
Anyone knows whether the National Crime Agency is exempted from FOI Act?
I wouldnt have thought so since it isnt quango.
Maybe the idea of merging CEOP into NCA is to remove the exemption element.
A division within the NCA especially delegated to look after anti-children crime should suffice as equivalent of CEOP.
Well, I applaud the Home Office's decision.
'The search for our daughter Madeleine has been greatly enhanced by the work carried out by the team at Ceop. ….mccanns
A man who abused his position to such an extent that his message of support if not downright criminal, then borders it as to make no difference…….Joanna Morais
Jim Gamble is not fit to head CEOP. In fact he should have been removed for adopting a biased position.
A person in that role absolutely has got to be neutral.
The protection of children should be paramount objective and an organisation for that purpose should be objective regardless.
"The Government recognises the importance of child protection and wants to build upon the work of Ceop, but does not necessarily feel this is best done by creating a new quango."……Theresa May
No law enforcing entity should be quango and above the FOI Act. Their accountability should be subjected to public query.
Anyone knows whether the National Crime Agency is exempted from FOI Act?
I wouldnt have thought so since it isnt quango.
Maybe the idea of merging CEOP into NCA is to remove the exemption element.
A division within the NCA especially delegated to look after anti-children crime should suffice as equivalent of CEOP.
Well, I applaud the Home Office's decision.
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