REPLIES from the Home Office & Met Police to FoI Act questions about Operation Grange expenditure & staffing & the Smithman efits (MARCH 2018)

#36  @TonyBennett
Tony, you have asked me to read the ‘SMITHMAN’ threads. Let me assure you – I have read all the ‘SMITHMAN’ threads, which is why I make comments about Martin Smith and his family’s testimony.
I do not share your opinion that the Smith family fabricated their sighting of a man carrying a young female child on the night of 3^rd May 2007. It is up to you to prove your theory of fabricated testimony by the Smiths, and in my opinion, you have not done that. I understand that many members agree with you, but surely, I am entitled to believe the Smith family – along with many professional people who take a keen interest in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann (such as Goncalo Amaral, Paulo Reis, Mark Harrison, Pat Brown and Gemma O’Doherty, to name just a few).
I cannot add to the many excellent arguments posted by Phoebe, so maybe you could graciously accept that some members disagree with you, based on our interpretation of the public facts and PJ files regarding the Smith family testimony.

I too believe that the Smith family saw someone carrying a child that night. I don't believe it was Madeleine (too risky and I believe her body was already "elsewhere") and I am sceptical that it was Gerry (again, too risky).

I do believe it was a decoy to fit in with a hastily re-hashed timeline for a 10pm "abduction" shout, the original (9.30pm ?) being scuppered by Gerry meeting Jez.

Hi Lemonbutter,I note your Smithman points along with Phoebe's writing.

I am not sure if what I am about to state is about verification of events in regard to 3 May 2007 in Portugal,in regard to the proclaimed"Official"documented date of the event happening?
But it explains a certain process.
I am not saying these events did not take place on the date above,first and foremost.
As Verdi,Antony Bennett have stated,that it is possible for events to have taken place earlier than the Now "Official documented"date!
So if it "Ever" can be proved that the"Official Documented date" is the wrong Date of the event having to have taken place,it blows the lid on at least 7/9 person's events of what may have happened in Madeleine McCann's disappearance?
Which could also be the same 7/9 persons who All Refused to go back to Portugal,to assist in finding out what happened to their friends little Three Year old girl Madeleine McCann,Now Why wouldn't you return back to help this little girl?

A"Pact Of silence"eh Mr Payne,it's nobody else's business?

The PJ Phone records highlights contact between One of the three Arquio's became too close within a"Normal context" of Police procedures,FSS evidence,investigation?

willowthewisp wrote:
So if it "Ever" can be proved that the"Official Documented date" is the wrong Date of the event having to have taken place,it blows the lid on at least 7/9 person's events of what may have happened in Madeleine McCann's disappearance?

Amen! That is what CMoMM is all about.

The subject has been strategically manoeuvred to avoid the many salient points presented on this forum that cast doubt over the veracity of the Smith family sighting.  As long as that's allowed to continue, there will never be any progress.

CMoMM prides itself on being a leading investigative/research forum - an excellent place to hang out but always with the interests of Madeleine McCann at the forefront.  The forum's success is reflected in the statistics, both membership and readership, the only way to retain it's reputation and integrity is to maintain the professional standard that CMoMM has built over the years.   Since it's creation, the forum has gone from strength to strength - let's maintain that strong position by working towards a positive result, rather than a negative game of ping-pong.

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Re: REPLIES from the Home Office & Met Police to FoI Act questions about Operation Grange expenditure & staffing & the Smithman efits (MARCH 2018)

A positive move many will agree.  The replies are not very informative but miracles have not yet been accepted as the norm,  to get a straight response from a government official is akin to the proverbial 'getting blood out of a stone'.  This case is a massive establishment cover-up, they are not going to willingly lift the lid off a stinking rotten pile of merde - are they?

Another very positive note is the very recent letter sent to the Portuguese authorities, showing evidence that could lead to a renewed investigation sometime in the future - not by the UK authorities I hasten to add.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14979-letter-to-portugal-the-disappearance-of-madeleine-mccann-new-evidence-of-what-happened-to-her#383945

New evidence is what's needed to take this case forward, new evidence has been presented by the MMRG, through the auspices of Paulo Reis and is now in the hands of senior Portuguese authorities.   Let's keep that positive alive, don't allow the forum to stagnate for the sake of mawkish sentimentality.  In the grand scheme of things, it matters not who thinks what - because some ex-senior police official or some criminologist retains a blinkered view of the case, is not important.  The only important person is Madeleine McCann - it is she we work for, not the protection of some irrelevant personage on the periphery.  I believe I can say without fear of contradiction - members of CMoMM, past and present, know a whole lot more about the detail of this case than any part-time enthusiast, that pops up from time to time.

Just think - no doubt Gerry McCann was/is thought of as a high upstanding member of the community.  A family man with two remaining children who, like it or not, are caught up in the web of deceit created by their own parents !!!