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Jeremy Bamber Innocent or framed?
Due to recent programmes on past Police Investigations and the Appeals processes Mr Bamber has faced for the Killing of Five Family members in August 1985.
Concern must be taken in light of the,"Public Immunity file",surrounding Miss Julie Mugford and her story sold to the News Of The World,considering(Julie) was Jeremy's girlfriend at the time of the Murders.
It also transpires that Mr Bamber may have been defrauded out of his Step parents Property investments.where as at the Time,Essex Police had a theory of,"One Reason for the Killings" for Jeremy to have inherited the Estate?
It now looks as though"Relatives" of Step Parents,Farm Neighbours,took a considerable interest of the Farm and Land,whilst Mr Bamber was incarcerated in the Hospital or Prison during his conviction.
In fact one of Mr Bambers interests worth at one time £190,000 had cost s added to his estate of a Further £30,000 when they dis-inherited what would have been due to his Estate!?
It is thought that Essex Police have No wish to examine any details surrendered to them by Mr Jeremy Bambers Legal Team or consider they may have Jailed the wrong person over the five deaths,due to "past Investigations,Appeals process" but what happens if they were wrong on all these counts,especially the"Gun silencer Evidence"sudden appearance by close friends?
I do not have material to add to some of the facts above,but perhaps persons may have TV programmes available to view.
Concern must be taken in light of the,"Public Immunity file",surrounding Miss Julie Mugford and her story sold to the News Of The World,considering(Julie) was Jeremy's girlfriend at the time of the Murders.
It also transpires that Mr Bamber may have been defrauded out of his Step parents Property investments.where as at the Time,Essex Police had a theory of,"One Reason for the Killings" for Jeremy to have inherited the Estate?
It now looks as though"Relatives" of Step Parents,Farm Neighbours,took a considerable interest of the Farm and Land,whilst Mr Bamber was incarcerated in the Hospital or Prison during his conviction.
In fact one of Mr Bambers interests worth at one time £190,000 had cost s added to his estate of a Further £30,000 when they dis-inherited what would have been due to his Estate!?
It is thought that Essex Police have No wish to examine any details surrendered to them by Mr Jeremy Bambers Legal Team or consider they may have Jailed the wrong person over the five deaths,due to "past Investigations,Appeals process" but what happens if they were wrong on all these counts,especially the"Gun silencer Evidence"sudden appearance by close friends?
I do not have material to add to some of the facts above,but perhaps persons may have TV programmes available to view.
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Hi MayMuse,thanks for the additional video information on the Jeremy Bamber case of five Murders of his family.
I have tonight watched Two Videos,not the ones depicted above and can only state the Police evidence contained in the Original Trail is"flawed" to say the least!
Once you add in the"Public Immuntity Orders"were they disclosed to the Jury,the fabrication story by Julie Mugford,"Conditional" on the jailing of Jeremy Bamber,was this told to the Jury?
Dead,Undead bodies moving themselves around a house,where the Police"State,they See,Hear Movement"inside the building,when their chief suspect was outside with them?
Add into the fact,Mr Bamber was the main suspect on"Inheritance Thesis" and the Neighbours(Boutlflour) who owed money to Jermey's Step parents and took over the Mr Bambers Legal inheritance whilst incarcerated in a secure Hospital or Prison,never to be released?
So Mr Police Officer,did you incarcerate the right person on the Five Murders committed 7 August 1985!
Another"Miscarriage of Justice,this seems much akin to the Birmingham Six,where mysterious evidence magicked its self to a crime scene but not by Police Officers,but close friends who stood to Benefit immensley,but of course you will understand they were not suspects of criminality!
In fact,I would state that one of the Lead Detectives,gives an immense insight to their "Train of Thought process",the silencer found a Month later,that the Police had two crime numbers for"silencer(s) a Month apart,where it is the"Sudden finding" by(Boutflour) Neighbours of Residue on the now 2nd silencer,which lost Forensic evidence in transit,was it displayed to the court that they had Two silencers reference to one Gun,so which silencer,was,was Not fitted to the weapon,to commit the Murders?
Police records show the Father phoning the Police to alert them of their Daughters demise,then also have Jeremy Bamber,phoning them alerting to a similar scene at the Farm House,at different times,which proves the Father was still alive until minutes after,when Jeremy rang the Police from his home.
Or s one of the"Top flight Detectives" states he could have been riding a bike in between the crime scene,the Hendon Policing school of Crime scenes,much akin to DCI Redwoods "Revelation moment" fit the Crime to the scene if in doubt!?
Watched Two of the videos,fascinating to find the involvement of Secret Services being involved with five other Murders, now a Farmer and his wife,Two adopted children with Two Grand children suddenly decimated by a Family murder,with a sole recipient left penniless in Jail,secure hospital never to be released,so who could tell his side of the story?
That Mr David Boutflour is a"Rather Polished Individual"who certainly meets the criteria for the upper echelons of today's society,doesn't he with his veneered finish!
Ah yes the"Boutflour's"who ended up as the main benefactors of Jeremy's adopted parents Estate after their murders,whilst the Lead suspect put away for life,another job well done by the UK Police force,it would seem?
Mr Bamber has felt the full force of the judicial system to keep him securely incarcirated at the Governments behest,cannot have these people being benefits of the system that is unduly due to them,eh Mr Boutflours,entourage!
I have just viewed the video depicting the Assets of the adopted parents,Nevelle ,June and Jeremy Bamber,Sheila Caffell,surely it is an alarming situation,that the UK Police chose Mr Jeremy Bambers future "Inheritance" as a qualified reason to suspect him of five members of his Family!
Where as in fact it was the cousins of Mr Bamber(Boutflours) who through illegal methods defrauded Neville June Bambers Estate,in fact David Boutflour wrote to the court to see who the Estates would be left to if Jeremy Bamber was convicted of the Murders,so based on that assumption,the Boutflours,could be suspects?
Also Note how the former Secretary Involved the"Fraud Squad" who failed to investigate thee valid points of the deception being carried out by John Eaton.
Now run that by a Jury in light of the knowledge of the "Bamber Estates" of who benefited,eh Silver tonged David,speaking ever so eloquently on the nasty Murder Jeremy Bamber spending £12,000 of assets from his estate he had inherited compared to the hundreds of Thousands of Pounds that was fleeced from the"Bamber Estates"!
Time to wake up Mr Police Officer,who fleeced Who,the Boutflour's fleecing the Bamber Estate,how are you going to estimate any future compensation payout to Mr J Bamber or do you require the Government to honour there recommendation of a whole life tariff to stand!
I have tonight watched Two Videos,not the ones depicted above and can only state the Police evidence contained in the Original Trail is"flawed" to say the least!
Once you add in the"Public Immuntity Orders"were they disclosed to the Jury,the fabrication story by Julie Mugford,"Conditional" on the jailing of Jeremy Bamber,was this told to the Jury?
Dead,Undead bodies moving themselves around a house,where the Police"State,they See,Hear Movement"inside the building,when their chief suspect was outside with them?
Add into the fact,Mr Bamber was the main suspect on"Inheritance Thesis" and the Neighbours(Boutlflour) who owed money to Jermey's Step parents and took over the Mr Bambers Legal inheritance whilst incarcerated in a secure Hospital or Prison,never to be released?
So Mr Police Officer,did you incarcerate the right person on the Five Murders committed 7 August 1985!
Another"Miscarriage of Justice,this seems much akin to the Birmingham Six,where mysterious evidence magicked its self to a crime scene but not by Police Officers,but close friends who stood to Benefit immensley,but of course you will understand they were not suspects of criminality!
In fact,I would state that one of the Lead Detectives,gives an immense insight to their "Train of Thought process",the silencer found a Month later,that the Police had two crime numbers for"silencer(s) a Month apart,where it is the"Sudden finding" by(Boutflour) Neighbours of Residue on the now 2nd silencer,which lost Forensic evidence in transit,was it displayed to the court that they had Two silencers reference to one Gun,so which silencer,was,was Not fitted to the weapon,to commit the Murders?
Police records show the Father phoning the Police to alert them of their Daughters demise,then also have Jeremy Bamber,phoning them alerting to a similar scene at the Farm House,at different times,which proves the Father was still alive until minutes after,when Jeremy rang the Police from his home.
Or s one of the"Top flight Detectives" states he could have been riding a bike in between the crime scene,the Hendon Policing school of Crime scenes,much akin to DCI Redwoods "Revelation moment" fit the Crime to the scene if in doubt!?
Watched Two of the videos,fascinating to find the involvement of Secret Services being involved with five other Murders, now a Farmer and his wife,Two adopted children with Two Grand children suddenly decimated by a Family murder,with a sole recipient left penniless in Jail,secure hospital never to be released,so who could tell his side of the story?
That Mr David Boutflour is a"Rather Polished Individual"who certainly meets the criteria for the upper echelons of today's society,doesn't he with his veneered finish!
Ah yes the"Boutflour's"who ended up as the main benefactors of Jeremy's adopted parents Estate after their murders,whilst the Lead suspect put away for life,another job well done by the UK Police force,it would seem?
Mr Bamber has felt the full force of the judicial system to keep him securely incarcirated at the Governments behest,cannot have these people being benefits of the system that is unduly due to them,eh Mr Boutflours,entourage!
I have just viewed the video depicting the Assets of the adopted parents,Nevelle ,June and Jeremy Bamber,Sheila Caffell,surely it is an alarming situation,that the UK Police chose Mr Jeremy Bambers future "Inheritance" as a qualified reason to suspect him of five members of his Family!
Where as in fact it was the cousins of Mr Bamber(Boutflours) who through illegal methods defrauded Neville June Bambers Estate,in fact David Boutflour wrote to the court to see who the Estates would be left to if Jeremy Bamber was convicted of the Murders,so based on that assumption,the Boutflours,could be suspects?
Also Note how the former Secretary Involved the"Fraud Squad" who failed to investigate thee valid points of the deception being carried out by John Eaton.
Now run that by a Jury in light of the knowledge of the "Bamber Estates" of who benefited,eh Silver tonged David,speaking ever so eloquently on the nasty Murder Jeremy Bamber spending £12,000 of assets from his estate he had inherited compared to the hundreds of Thousands of Pounds that was fleeced from the"Bamber Estates"!
Time to wake up Mr Police Officer,who fleeced Who,the Boutflour's fleecing the Bamber Estate,how are you going to estimate any future compensation payout to Mr J Bamber or do you require the Government to honour there recommendation of a whole life tariff to stand!
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A minor point, the Bamber couple were his adoptive parents, not step-parents.
I shall watch the videos later; this is a case that has always interested me.
I shall watch the videos later; this is a case that has always interested me.
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“Basically, I’m just an ordinary, straightforward guy who’s the victim of the biggest f***-up on this planet – if you’ll excuse the language.”
Robert Murat talking to David Jones, Daily Mail, 02 June 2007
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Robert Murat talking to David Jones, Daily Mail, 02 June 2007
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Hi MayMuse,thanks for all the videos,I think I am (Bambered Out)joking of course.
Would any serving Police Officer kindly consider to forward any evidence on"Fraud Obtaining properties by deception" to any Fraud Squad Officers,in the Jeremy Bamber case.
Remember people,"We only have one life", that it should not be taken away from any one, by deception, even if part of it has been part of a so called Balanced Justice system!
Taken by deception by the "State",they have been proven to have been wrong on too many occasions now,stop the Injustices of wrongful imprisonment.
Look how many years it took a seasoned writer,Paul Foot to unfurl the"Birmingham six convictions",Mr foot was spoken of as being wrong by MSM over the strenuous situation for the search for the truth,on these Six Innocent Men,with personal fabricated Evidence throughout the Whole process of the case by the Government controlled personel!
Injustices do happen,Hilsborough,Birmingham Six unsolved Murder of Daniel Morgan,being the most remembered,care to add in Mr Bambers case,Home Secretary,Amber Rudd,33 years and counting?
Would any serving Police Officer kindly consider to forward any evidence on"Fraud Obtaining properties by deception" to any Fraud Squad Officers,in the Jeremy Bamber case.
Remember people,"We only have one life", that it should not be taken away from any one, by deception, even if part of it has been part of a so called Balanced Justice system!
Taken by deception by the "State",they have been proven to have been wrong on too many occasions now,stop the Injustices of wrongful imprisonment.
Look how many years it took a seasoned writer,Paul Foot to unfurl the"Birmingham six convictions",Mr foot was spoken of as being wrong by MSM over the strenuous situation for the search for the truth,on these Six Innocent Men,with personal fabricated Evidence throughout the Whole process of the case by the Government controlled personel!
Injustices do happen,Hilsborough,Birmingham Six unsolved Murder of Daniel Morgan,being the most remembered,care to add in Mr Bambers case,Home Secretary,Amber Rudd,33 years and counting?
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@willowthewisp No problem, I've included what I could find so other readers can view , and followed the money trail as you mentioned the estate and beneficiaries if jeremy Bamber was convicted, which he was. Some I've seen before and came across newer ones today with information i was unawares. On balance it looks like he deserves another trial, but don't suppose he will get it? Thanks for bringing it to light again, I remember this at the time and how horrific it was/is and thought then something was amiss and still do.
We are supposed to trust the police and let them do their job, clearly as many many cases show they do not do the job they are paid to do in thoroughness! No wonder many of the public have lost confidence in our "boys in blue?"
We are supposed to trust the police and let them do their job, clearly as many many cases show they do not do the job they are paid to do in thoroughness! No wonder many of the public have lost confidence in our "boys in blue?"
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Hi MayMuse,The original Jury had to rely on a Majority Verdict,10;2,what cannot be explained is the need for the Prosecution to have PII on Non disclosure to the defence Team?
Surely that is a basic right before any Court of Law and Order,to have a"Fair,balanced hearing"not some concocted story where the Major witness receives a payment(£25,000)= of £100,000 in today's value, within Six minutes in a Hotel Room after the conviction,Julie Mugford signed a deal with the News Of The World,about Jeremy Bamber Story?
In a Normal Society,wouldn't this Ring alarm Bells?
Then when the UK Police methods of a "Thesis",who stood to make financial gain,finger points to Jeremy Bamber,when all along his cousins(Boutflours) fleeced his Inheritance,whilst he serves a whole life Tariff at Her Majesty's pleasure,Justice UK Police style,we nailed him,Good and Proper,Done up like a Well Smoked Kipper!?
Surely that is a basic right before any Court of Law and Order,to have a"Fair,balanced hearing"not some concocted story where the Major witness receives a payment(£25,000)= of £100,000 in today's value, within Six minutes in a Hotel Room after the conviction,Julie Mugford signed a deal with the News Of The World,about Jeremy Bamber Story?
In a Normal Society,wouldn't this Ring alarm Bells?
Then when the UK Police methods of a "Thesis",who stood to make financial gain,finger points to Jeremy Bamber,when all along his cousins(Boutflours) fleeced his Inheritance,whilst he serves a whole life Tariff at Her Majesty's pleasure,Justice UK Police style,we nailed him,Good and Proper,Done up like a Well Smoked Kipper!?
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