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Post by ROSA on 19.08.19 0:19

Was there ever any CCTV footage of the McCann's arriving at Faro airport on the 29th I think ?

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Post by PeterMac on 20.08.19 7:40

They arrived on Saturday 28th April 2007
They were taken by bus to the complex, checked in, were then taken to their apartment
sorted themselves out, and then went to the children's play area, where the three photos were taken.
(jumping on grass, and the two with the Play house)
as did many other families with children who can be seen in those same photos.
Until that point everything was as normal as one would expect of any family with three small children on the first day of a holiday.

The big fluffy clouds visible in the three photos coincide exactly with the known weather conditions
on that day, and with all the photos posted on Flickr by dozens of other people for that date.

I am not sure how CCTV of arrival at the airport would be important
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Post by PeterMac on 20.08.19 8:39

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Post by sammyc on 20.08.19 13:40

@PeterMac - can you find or repost the squirrel story so new members can understand what it means?  I remember reading it the first time you posted about squirrel and have kept my eye on him since  thumbsup thanks
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Post by Jill Havern on 20.08.19 13:45

Here you go:

   A lawyer advertised for a clerk. The next morning his office was crowded with applicants — all bright, many suitable. He bade them wait until all should arrive, and then ranged them in a row and said he would tell them a story, note their comments, and judge from that whom he would choose.

   ‘A certain farmer,’ began the lawyer, ‘was troubled with a red squirrel that got in through a hole in his barn and stole his seed corn. He resolved to kill the squirrel at the first opportunity. Seeing him go in at the hole one noon, he took his shot gun and fired away; the first shot set the barn on fire.’

   ‘Did the barn burn?’ said one of the boys.

   The lawyer without answer continued: ‘And seeing the barn on fire, the farmer seized a pail of water and ran to put it out.’

   ‘Did he put it out?’ said another.

   ‘As he passed inside, the door shut to and the barn was soon in flames. When the hired girl rushed out with more water.’

   ‘Did they all burn up?’ said another boy.

   The lawyer went on without answer:–

   ‘Then the old lady came out, and all was noise and confusion, and everybody was trying to put out the fire.’

   ‘Did any one burn up?’ said another.

   The lawyer said: ‘There that will do; you have all shown great interest in the story.’ But observing one little bright-eyed fellow in deep silence, he said: ‘Now, my little man, what have you to say?’

   The little fellow blushed, grew uneasy, and stammered out:–

   ‘I want to know what became of that squirrel; that’s what I want to know.’

   ‘You’ll do,’ said the lawyer; ‘you are my man; you have not been switched off by a confusion and a barn burning, and the hired girls and water pails. You have kept your eye on the squirrel.’

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Post by sammyc on 20.08.19 13:52

Superfast, nice one Jill.
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Post by Verdi on 20.08.19 15:42

@ROSA wrote:Was there ever any CCTV footage of the McCann's arriving at Faro airport on the 29th I think ?

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If you have any questions or observations on the holiday photographs in general, would you please post here..

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t14726-photographs-revisited-general?highlight=phots+general

Thank you.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 15.01.20 17:43

Posting this video made in 2018, which again, suggests that the Tennis Balls Photo is a forgery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eye7IVL4iqQ


It also suggests that the maker has been paying careful attention to CMOMM and to Petermac's analyses of the Tennis Balls photo, which may be seen here:
 
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13479-chapter-22-tennis-balls-photo

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Post by Verdi on 16.01.20 1:32

Copied over from Dr Martin Roberts 'A Nightwear Job' thread..

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t12555p275-dr-martin-roberts-a-nightwear-job#412970


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Post by Verdi on 16.01.20 15:41

@Tony Bennett wrote:Posting this video made in 2018, which again, suggests that the Tennis Balls Photo is a forgery:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eye7IVL4iqQ


It also suggests that the makee has been paying careful attention to CMOMM and to Petermac's analyses of the Tennis Balls photo, which may be seen here:
 
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13479-chapter-22-tennis-balls-photo

The YouTube video is a compilation of observations I've seen and read over the years, both here on CMOMM and other fora and blogs.  10/10 for effort but where does it lead?

By example, I just had to laugh at the commentary relating to the tennis court photograph.  Firstly, when trying to analyse the tennis ball image, the video narrator places much emphasis on skin and hair colour along with other detail appertaining to colour.

Making comparison with the poolside photograph, she then goes on to say that Madeleine pictured on a tennis court would appear to be wearing Amelie's sun hat.  The two images appear side by side on the video, thus..

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A major discrepency highlighted as regards skin and hair colour in order to suggest the tennis ball image is fake, then a direct assertion that Madeleine is wearing Amelie's sun hat - a totally different colour?

Are you with me ....

That aside, there are any number of Madeleine McCann photographs circulating mainstream and social meda, different colouring, different sizes, cropped/uncropped - even front to back.  The more time passes, the more obscure this case becomes.

Meanwhile, a source close to the family begins the beguine..

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Post by Mainline on 16.01.20 17:59

@Verdi wrote:
Meanwhile, a source close to the family begins the beguine..

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The photo appears to have first been circulated on May 7th, in the Perkins email, two days before this article and sans Crimestoppers #.
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Post by Verdi on 16.01.20 21:23

Yes ^^^,  that's correct..

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[Acknowledgement pamalam at gerrymccannsblog]

I have added the e-mail attachment as linked on gerrymccannsblog. I can't vouch for the authenticity of the e-mail content nor the linked tennis ball image as can be seen, the pamalam entry is not a screenshot nor an email copy, therefore the origin of the document is unknown.

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Post by Mainline on 17.01.20 9:33

The screenshots are in the files, in the link I put above (click 'Pat Perkins'):

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Post by Milo on 17.01.20 11:32

Are the red elbows and knees from crawling on the red bitumen stuff on/by the tennis court? Just asking?
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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.01.20 11:45

The information posted above by @Verdi and @Mainline is very helpful. Thank you, both. 

It leads us to review what is known about the hugely controversial Tennis Balls Photo.

That is the ONLY photo of Madeleine that is claimed by the McCanns to have been taken after lunch-time on Sunday 29 April - apart, that is, from (a) the Last/Pool Photo, which many think was taken on sunny Sunday 29 April, but the McCanns say was taken Thursday, and the Make-Up Photo, which has several indications that it may have been taken on the afternoon of Sunday 29 April.  

On another thread, @Verdi made a pronouncement about what it means when the EXIF data accompanying a photograph uses the word 'Created on ____ (date)'. Verdi wrote:

"As an aside, if you trawl through the various press agency photograph archives, you will note they ALL use the wording 'created on'.  Invariably, if not always, this means the date the photograph was taken.  It DOES NOT mean, nor imply, that any particular image has been photo-shopped, manipulated, invented - or whatever other verb you prefer to use". 


I cannot agree with that statement, as I am sure I have seen other examples of where a photographer or press agency has 'created' an image afresh e.g. by cropping, photoshopping, taking a photo of a photo etc. 

But, for a moment, let us assume that Verdi's statement above is correct.

That would mean that the Tennis Balls Photo was TAKEN on Saturday 5 May.

Now, who on the forum believes that? 

Now let assume that Verdi's statement is NOT correct, and that the Tennis Balls Photo has somehow been 'created' i.e. put together EITHER by photographing a photograph, OR by photoshopping, OR by some other means (we really do need a digital photography expert to come in and help is with this). 

THEN the above, most useful information provided above may give is clue about the true provenance of the Tennis Balls Photo.

We see from the news media reports on Wednesday 9 May that "The e-poster has been created by Madeleine's aunt, Philomena McCann. Ms McCann is the sister of Gerry McCann, Maddie's father, and lives in Scotland".

Was it? For we now know that Philomena McCann was not 'Ms McCann' but in reality Mrs Tony Rickwood. And thanks to PeterMac's excellent detective work, we know that Tony Rickwood was an expert photoshopper, specialising, on the 'Deviant Art' site, in composing highly professional, photoshopped images, of near-naked women drowning, a practice known as 'the quicksand fetish".

We also know from this 2006 email that Mr Tony & Mrs Philomena Rickwood were quite well off:

Hello everyone, my wife and I have been restoring a nice spot close to Flix in Tarragona for the last year or so. No plans to move out permanently yet but we visit often and now that the bulk of the work is done, we can start to appreciate the local area a bit more. We spend most of our time in Ullapool, Scottish highlands, which has its own superb scenery and wildlife- I have worked on a land based salmon farm for many years and am always close to the action, as well as the weather and the dreaded scottish midge! My employer is a keen birdwatcher, especially Raptors and always "expects a full report" when I return. I am also a keen photographer, both of the night sky and wildlife- I have been photographing the Aurora borealis from Ullapool for years, but the insects and reptiles in Catalonia are of great interest to me. As a pure courtesy, I get pictures of birds for my employer! I'm currently building an electronic camera trigger for capturing lightning photos from some of those amazing mediterranean storms.


But we also see that the Tennis Balls Photo wasn't initially released by Philomena McCann, it was released in the form of a poster, as early as Monday 7 May, by one of the McCann family's friends, a 'Pat Perkins', who is self-described on the e-mail as 'Pat Perkins, Pre employment lead NHS academy North West'.

She is still in the same job, and has been since 2004, as her publicly-viewable Linked-In profile makes clear.  

She is based in Liverpool and described as follows in a recent NHS briefing paper:


LINK - http://www.ewin.nhs.uk/sites/default/files/Full%20Day%20Presentations.pdf 

Skills for Health
Pat Perkins
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Since 2004
Pat.Perkins@skillsforhealth.org.uk


Her Linked-In profile also tells us that she was educated at Notre Dame Roman Catholic High School, Everton Valley, Liverpool.

So was Kate Marie Healy

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Post by Verdi on 17.01.20 12:36

@Tony Bennett wrote:
That would mean that the Tennis Balls Photo was TAKEN on Saturday 5 May.

Where on earth does that piece of information stem from? Why is it presumed the photograph was taken on Saturday 5th May 2007?

This particular image could be an original, it's been reproduced so many times, who's to know with any certainty?  Not that I necessarily believe it to be an original - at least not taken at the Ocean Club during that fateful week.

Before going any further, it is on public record that Jon Corner was one of the first to arrive in Luz after the alarm was raised, on 4th/5th May 2007 if I remember rightly, apparently armed with a portfolio of Madeleine McCann photographs.  It was claimed that he busied himself circulating images to the media.

I will check-out the detail later.

It takes but a few seconds/minutes to electronically 'move' a photograph/image from one place to another.  I could take a photograph now, upload it to my laptop and then on the forum  within minutes
 

NB:  For the record, I didn't mention EXIF data, I referred only to press agency photographic archives.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.01.20 13:20

@Verdi wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
That would mean that the Tennis Balls Photo was TAKEN on Saturday 5 May.

Where on earth does that piece of information stem from?  Why is it presumed the photograph was taken on Saturday 5th May 2007? 

Er...from your very own words upthread, @Verdi, where you wrote this, quote:

"...they ALL use the wording 'created on'.  Invariably, if not always, this means the date the photograph was taken".


Whereas I was clearly suggesting upthread that the word 'created on' does NOT necessarily mean the date the photo was taken  

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Post by Verdi on 17.01.20 14:44

The exact words I used, not up-thread but over on the Dr Martin Roberts 'Pyjama Job' were thus..

Vewrdi wrote:As an aside, if you trawl through the various press agency photograph archives, you will note they ALL use the wording 'created on'.  Invariably, if not always, this means the date the photograph was taken.  It DOES NOT mean, nor imply, that any particular image has been photo-shopped, manipulated, invented - or whatever other verb you prefer to use.

So back to my question .... 'why is it presumed the tennis ball image was taken on 5th May 2007'?

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Post by Verdi on 17.01.20 15:11

Reverting to the video link posted up-page#83, as I said previously, the video (I haven't the vaguest idea who the author is) is a compilation of comments and analysis posted across social media over the years.

Here's an example courtesy of forum member tigger's blog..

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16729-tigger-photographs-in-perspective#412998

@tigger wrote:For some reason the photograph was released after it was ‘flipped’.  That is:  the description given to the police mentions ‘a small brown mark on Left Leg Calf’.  When Madeleine faces towards the left,  the mark is on the left leg.

The mark?

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This is a rubbish image.  Who's even flipped the flipping image?

Just goes to how how deceptive it can be to play around with photographs - quite damaging I think.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.01.20 16:30

@Verdi wrote:The exact words I used, not up-thread but over on the Dr Martin Roberts 'Pyjama Job' were thus..

@Verdi wrote:As an aside, if you trawl through the various press agency photograph archives, you will note they ALL use the wording 'created on'.  Invariably, if not always, this means the date the photograph was taken.  It DOES NOT mean, nor imply, that any particular image has been photo-shopped, manipulated, invented - or whatever other verb you prefer to use.

So back to my question .... 'why is it presumed the tennis ball image was taken on 5th May 2007'?

Again, @Verdi, the assumption/presumption is based entirely on your very own words, as you've just requoted above.

You have asserted that, quote, "Invariably, if not always, the wording 'created on' means the date the photograph was taken".

Your words, not mine. 

As it happens, both the controversial Tennis Balls Photo and the controversial Luis Forra pyjamas photo were marked as 'created' on Saturday 5 Saturday (maybe just another of those 'coincidences'.

According to your logic and assertion above, that must mean that you think that both photographs were actually taken on Saturday 5 May.

Have I misunderstood what you say? I think not.

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Whereas I still think it is at least possible that the McCanns took that photograph themselves. In their holiday apartment

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Post by Tony Bennett on 17.01.20 17:32

Alex Woolfall's name has cropped up recently on this thread.

Here are a few excerpts from one of the Alex Woolfall threads which may once again be of some interest:

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  Times, October 6, 2007

Alex Woolfall on Madeleine’s photos:

The McCanns had photographs of Madeleine on their digital camera, which Mr Woolfall began transferring to a laptop computer. "I said to Kate, 'Let's try to identify pictures where her face is visible'. Downloading the images was a very difficult process for them. It was upsetting.


[SNIPPED...]


Mr Woolfall transmitted the photographs to the Press Association in London, from where they were distributed to the media. The portfolio included the now famous image of Madeleine wearing a hat on a tennis court.

Now, once again: WHY wasn't the "Last Picture" there?

 
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This thread raises a good many questions not only about 'The Last Photo' but also about the other photos supposedly taken of Madeleine that week.
 
The link on HideHo's site to the article about Alex Woolfall certainly makes interesting reading.
 
One obvious question, for starters, is what was Alex Woolfall doing sorting through the McCanns' camera's memory card?
 
Why weren't the Portuguese police looking at it?
 
Another question is how did this camera get into the hands of a Hampshire Police Officer who examined it on Tuesday 8 May, apparently in his own home.
 
Who took it there, presumably by plane, and on whose authority?
 
Were any images deleted from the memory stick? I think they were. Who deleted them and why?
 
Also, we are talking about 'the McCanns' camera' as if they only had one camera. Did they perhaps have more than one?
 
Another question: why are there so few photos of her that week?
 
Plus, who actually took the 'tennis balls' photo?
 
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Official police work not authorised and not carried out within authorised venue can become legal contention as procedures are breached.
 
Elements of tampering and/or lack of record can become an issue in Court case.
If no record is kept of downloaded materials he would have to rely heavily on memory if the authenticity of the last photo becomes a contentious issue.
 
Not only that, the digital details set and/or captured on the camera would be lost to his recollection years later.
 
So yeah, if proven that Madeleine died earlier than the 3rd, Alex Woolfall may face questioning.
 
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From the topic 'Video Analysis of the tennis photo' by Garyp.

Have been doing an analysis of different photos for a while now, this is the first posting and video I have done on them so be gentle.



The tennis court photo - I have read many things about photoshopping of this picture so thought I would look into it further.

It first appeared in the media unless anyone knows different on the morning of Monday 7th May.


This means it must have been in the hands of the editor Sunday 6th May for the layout to be arranged.

6th May was Mothers’ Day and the church service

Would Gerry have been emailing this picture to the editor that day? Possibly...

This photo was not used in PDL in the first days after M disappeared.

7th May was a busy day for this photo. It was also used in the email 'chain letter' sent out by Pat Perkins, family friend of Kate’s mother, where did she get it so quickly? And she doesn’t really look like someone who would be able to cut the picture down from the original. Don’t know, maybe she uses photoshop in her spare time.

 
[Edited to add: We now know that her husband is Mr Tony Rickwood, a photoshopping expert who produced many images of women drowning in quicksand for a website, ‘Deviant Art’]    

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So Woolfall must have missed this one on Monday? It already went out and imo it was never on the camera.

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Post by Verdi on 18.01.20 0:04

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@Verdi wrote:The exact words I used, not up-thread but over on the Dr Martin Roberts 'Pyjama Job' were thus..

@Verdi wrote:As an aside, if you trawl through the various press agency photograph archives, you will note they ALL use the wording 'created on'.  Invariably, if not always, this means the date the photograph was taken.  It DOES NOT mean, nor imply, that any particular image has been photo-shopped, manipulated, invented - or whatever other verb you prefer to use.

So back to my question .... 'why is it presumed the tennis ball image was taken on 5th May 2007'?

Again, @Verdi, the assumption/presumption is based entirely on your very own words, as you've just requoted above.

You have asserted that, quote, "Invariably, if not always, the wording 'created on' means the date the photograph was taken".

Your words, not mine. 

As it happens, both the controversial Tennis Balls Photo and the controversial Luis Forra pyjamas photo were marked as 'created' on Saturday 5 Saturday (maybe just another of those 'coincidences'.

According to your logic and assertion above, that must mean that you think that both photographs were actually taken on Saturday 5 May.

Have I misunderstood what you say? I think not.

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Whereas I still think it is at least possible that the McCanns took that photograph themselves. In their holiday apartment

Yes, I believe you have misunderstood me - and totally confused me in the process.
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That would mean that the Tennis Balls Photo was TAKEN on Saturday 5 May.

The fact I pointed out that press agency photograph archives use the wording 'created on' equates to presuming the tennis ball image was taken on 5th May 2007? You've lost me.

To simplify, forget anything I've said before, only understand I'm trying to ascertain where this information stems from - as I've said more than once. Where does the suggestion that the tennis ball image was taken/created on Saturday 5th May 2007 originate?

I have never made such a claim.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 18.01.20 8:46

@Verdi wrote:

@Tony Bennett wrote:
That would mean that the Tennis Balls Photo was TAKEN on Saturday 5 May.

The fact I pointed out that press agency photograph archives use the wording 'created on' equates to presuming the tennis ball image was taken on 5th May 2007?  You've lost me.

To simplify, forget anything I've said before, only understand  I'm trying to ascertain where this information stems from - as I've said more than once.  Where does the suggestion that the tennis ball image was taken/created on Saturday 5th May 2007 originate?

I have never made such a claim.


@Verdi, Good morning.

I think part of the problem may be that we are swapping between two threads at the moment, as were are discussing TWO photographs, BOTH said to have been 'created' on Saturday 5 May 2007:

(1) The Tennis Balls Photo, and
(2) The Luis Forra pyjamas photo.

In relation to the Tennis Balls Photo, I posted this image, which shows (in the bottom right of picture) the date of 'creation' of the image as 05-05-2007 i.e. Saturday 5 May:

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Above: A graphic produced by Lizzy Hideho Taylor in 2009. It is available in a slightly clearer image elsewhere on the internet on a couple of YouTube videos, where the puzzling date of 'creation' on 5 May 2007 is also discussed 

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I then applied your dictum to this photograph, i.e., 

As an aside, if you trawl through the various press agency photograph archives, you will note they ALL use the wording 'created on'.  Invariably, if not always, this means the date the photograph was taken.  It DOES NOT mean, nor imply, that any particular image has been photo-shopped, manipulated, invented - or whatever other verb you prefer to use.

Now, if you are right, i.e. that CREATED = TAKEN, then clearly the Tennis Balls photo could NOT have been 'TAKEN' on any of the various dates stated for it having been taken by the McCanns and some of their Tapas 7 friends.

Whereas I maintain that CREATED does NOT necessarily mean the date it was TAKEN, but what it says, i.e. 'CREATED' e.g. by photoshopping, other editing, 're-creating' it somehow, taking a photo of a photo etc. 

In this connection I think you might agree with me that it may be very significant that AFAIK the Tennis Balls Photo was first, let us say 'produced' for public consumption by, according to two sources on 7 & 9 May, Philomena McCann in Ullapool. It appears to have been sent on Sunday 6 May (see discussion upthread) to Kate McCann's Liverpool school friend Pat Perkins, who promptly emailed it far and wide the following morning (7 May).

But we NOW know that Philomena McCann was living with her husband, Tony Rickwood, a professional photoshopper of 'quicksand fetish' notoriety.

All of this strengthens IMO the case that the Tennis Balls Photo is a photoshopped creation, quite possibly a composite of two or three separate images. In support of this is PeterMac's careful analysis that the image was NOT taken on Kate McCann's Canon Sureshot/Powershot 620 as claimed in Kate McCann's work 'madeleine'.     

As an aside I find it of interest that the Luis Forra pyjamas photo which we are discussing elsewhere was also created on Saturday 5 May, and my argument of course applies to that as well.

To give one straightforward possibility: he (Forra) could very well have been given a digital image by Kate McCann of her photo of those pyjamas, then edited it, and pushed it out as 'created' by the Luis Forra press agency.

Is not this similar to some of the McCanns' other images of Madeleine now being accredited to Paul Grover? (who incidentally photographed me outside the High Court in February 2013).



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Post by Verdi on 18.01.20 12:00

Aha!  So this is what it's all about - now we're getting somewhere..

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The worrying part of this is the wording, I quote .... 'Is this the EXIF data for the tennis ball pic'

A question, not a statement of fact nor even a hint of authenticity.  For this to have any true value, I would expect to see something on the lines of .... 'this is the EXIF data for the tennis ball pic'

Excuse my cynicism, over the years I've seen so many instances of urban myth originating through some misguided, or mischievous, source.

I can't read the EXIF data presented but in the interest of accuracy, I'll hunt around for a readable graphic when I have a spare moment.  I hope it's worth the effort,  it's not looking too promising at present.

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Post by crusader on 18.01.20 14:42

I don't really understand all the technical stuff about the photo's, so I'll just say this. Kate Mccann could have sent the tennis ball's photo ( and any other for that matter ) to her parent's soon after taking them and they in turn could have done what they wanted with them, ie sent them to whoever they wanted.

In the PJ files, there is a statement from Aurelio Guerreiro a friend of Pat Perkins who owned a bar in Villamoura. Pat Perkins called him and asked him to help the Mccann's and gave him a contact number for the mccann's.

He phoned the police in Portugal to establish they were aware of missing child. He also rang the Mccann's twice 00-30 & 1am, he
also gave them his phone number.

He said Pat Perkins was staying in Liverpool with Kate's parent's when she rang him in Villamoura.

He didn't hear anymore from Pat Perkins until 7th May when she sent him an email of Madeleine.
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