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Post by Cmaryholmes on 28.04.17 11:06

Where are the friends and relatives of the Mccanns? I would have expected at least some appeals from Grandma Healy, who had plenty to say in the early days after Madeleine's 'disappearance' , as did Gerry's big sis Phil.

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Post by aquila on 22.05.17 16:03

Here are the latest missing people featuring on the Missing People website which has now moved into geriatric mode. John Edwards.



  • Age at disappearance: 82
  • Missing Since: 20-May-2017
  • Missing from: Wood Green, London
  • Reference No: 17-002866


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Whilst I was cutting and pasting this, the other elderly lady Patricia F has been removed from the website banner of missing people.

Here is Patricia Finnie, missing since the 11th April and she has disappeared from the Missing People website within the last hour or so.

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Post by aquila on 22.05.17 16:24

The point I'm trying to make is that if you look up these missing people there is no mention of them in the media and the only thing Missing People offers is a scant outline, an opportunity to download a photo and sod all else.

How does that help? Well it helps to go all googly eyed and create crowd sympathy - see the Missing People front page - it's all pink hearts, stars and doves.

I really want to scream.
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Post by aquila on 22.05.17 16:27

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Post by aquila on 22.05.17 16:45

The above images were taken from today's Missing People website.

http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/
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Post by JRP on 22.05.17 19:58

Looks more like a dating website! What's with the hearts? 
Do they ever recruit anyone who's good at searching for people? Or is it all sales and admin.

Still, plenty of people feel better giving their hard earned money to charities they know nothing about.

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Post by sharonl on 22.05.17 20:16

Yeah but don't forget, poor little Madeleine is more a marketing tool than a missing person.  In 2007 Missing people were in financial difficulty, they were in need of a boost, a "new beginning".

Remember Gerry's comment "Kate needs a title, she hasn't got one yet" what was that all about?  Then we have their association with Ernie Allen in early May 2007, and John McCann at Marble Arch for an early Missing Peoples event.

IMO, this association with Missing people was known very, very early on. winkwink

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Post by Jill Havern on 22.05.17 20:39

Did Gerry have a title in 2007?
Why did Kate need to have one?
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Post by sharonl on 22.05.17 21:17

Get'emGonçalo wrote:Did Gerry have a title in 2007?
Why did Kate need to have one?

I don't think that Gerry had a title but he did make that comment about Kate.

I am beginning to wonder why she gave up her job so quickly. I used to think that it was because her employers could not confirm that she and Cuddle Cat tended to 6 corpses before the holiday, now I'm not so sure. Did this charity have big plans already in place for her?


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Post by Jill Havern on 22.05.17 22:19

@sharonl wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:Did Gerry have a title in 2007?
Why did Kate need to have one?

I don't think that Gerry had a title but he did make that comment about Kate.

I am beginning to wonder why she gave up her job so quickly.  I used to think that it was because her employers could not confirm that she and Cuddle Cat tended to 6  corpses before the holiday, now I'm not so sure.  Did this charity have big plans already in place for her?

I remember Kate saying "This is my job now. I can see this becoming my full-time career, with this whole issue of child welfare and opposing paedophiles'."

Opposing paedophiles instead of having strawberry daquiri's and banoffee pies with them.
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Post by Phoebe on 22.05.17 23:42

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@sharonl wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:Did Gerry have a title in 2007?
Why did Kate need to have one?

I don't think that Gerry had a title but he did make that comment about Kate.

I am beginning to wonder why she gave up her job so quickly.  I used to think that it was because her employers could not confirm that she and Cuddle Cat tended to 6  corpses before the holiday, now I'm not so sure.  Did this charity have big plans already in place for her?

I remember Kate saying "This is my job now. I can see this becoming my full-time career, with this whole issue of child welfare and opposing paedophiles'."

Opposing paedophiles instead of having strawberry daquiri's and banoffee pies with them.
I suspect this was the plan but it has been thwarted by that stubborn Portuguese cop and those pesky trolls who rained on Kate's parade and would not allow the pall of suspicion that hung about her to dissipate. I remember reading ( I think on the 3As) some time ago a comment that Kate hadn't "been approached yet" but she was obviously hopeful of a high-profile role. I believe it's claimed she's back in some branch of medicine now - boohoo, those bloody interfering trolls!!!!

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Post by sar on 23.05.17 13:29

Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@sharonl wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:Did Gerry have a title in 2007?
Why did Kate need to have one?

I don't think that Gerry had a title but he did make that comment about Kate.

I am beginning to wonder why she gave up her job so quickly.  I used to think that it was because her employers could not confirm that she and Cuddle Cat tended to 6  corpses before the holiday, now I'm not so sure.  Did this charity have big plans already in place for her?

I remember Kate saying "This is my job now. I can see this becoming my full-time career, with this whole issue of child welfare and opposing paedophiles'."

Opposing paedophiles instead of having strawberry daquiri's and banoffee pies with them.
+1 Get'emGonçalo!

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Post by aquila on 23.05.17 16:46

@JRP wrote:Looks more like a dating website! What's with the hearts? 
Do they ever recruit anyone who's good at searching for people? Or is it all sales and admin.

Still, plenty of people feel better giving their hard earned money to charities they know nothing about.
Here is Missing People exploiting the atrocity of the mass murder in Manchester


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Front page of Missing People website but not quite made it to the headline of give us your money.

http://www.missingpeople.org.uk/
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Post by plebgate on 23.05.17 17:38

@sar wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:
@sharonl wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:Did Gerry have a title in 2007?
Why did Kate need to have one?

I don't think that Gerry had a title but he did make that comment about Kate.

I am beginning to wonder why she gave up her job so quickly.  I used to think that it was because her employers could not confirm that she and Cuddle Cat tended to 6  corpses before the holiday, now I'm not so sure.  Did this charity have big plans already in place for her?

I remember Kate saying "This is my job now. I can see this becoming my full-time career, with this whole issue of child welfare and opposing paedophiles'."

Opposing paedophiles instead of having strawberry daquiri's and banoffee pies with them.
+1 Get'emGonçalo!
We heard in the 10th anniversary interview with F. Bruce that she now has a job in the medical field.  I wonder if she is still "working" for  missing people?

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Post by sharonl on 23.05.17 22:32

Around August 2007 just before the UK police helped the Portuguese to build a case against the McCanns and make them formal suspects, the McCanns were planning to settle out there. At the same time, obviously they couldn't even meet their mortgage payments, how on earth did the think that they would cope financially? There must have been something in place at that time for them to even consider doing that. Did they think that they had hit the jackpot and could now afford to make that move?

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Post by RosieandSam on 25.05.17 9:29

Results of search on: 25 May 2017 at 09:08:03. The details shown are valid at the date and time of the search only.

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Re: Missing People

Post by Tony Bennett on 25.05.17 22:53

Today is the date of 'THE BIG TWEET' for missing children, promoted by MISSING PEOPLE.

Madeleine McCann is mentioned, of course:

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/three-west-london-teens-big-13093563


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Post by sar on 08.11.18 11:31

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Post by sar on 08.11.18 11:34

@Jill Havern wrote:
@sharonl wrote:
Get'emGonçalo wrote:Did Gerry have a title in 2007?
Why did Kate need to have one?

I don't think that Gerry had a title but he did make that comment about Kate.

I am beginning to wonder why she gave up her job so quickly.  I used to think that it was because her employers could not confirm that she and Cuddle Cat tended to 6  corpses before the holiday, now I'm not so sure.  Did this charity have big plans already in place for her?

I remember Kate saying "This is my job now. I can see this becoming my full-time career, with this whole issue of child welfare and opposing paedophiles'."

Opposing paedophiles instead of having strawberry daquiri's and banoffee pies with them.
"opposing peterfiles" the opposite would be facilitating them, maybe someone had a change of heart?

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Post by aquila on 08.11.18 12:02

Having read the entire Missing People website across the years, I will issue a challenge to find current missing people released to the UK press by UK police anywhere to be found on their website.

I don't mind being wrong.
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Post by Doug D on 08.11.18 13:03

Aquila, is this what you mean?


From ‘Home Page’ at the top ‘Help us find someone’ gives options. Click ‘missing’ and it brings up the full gallery.
 
Having a look though, I noticed the reference numbers for the most recent top six on the ‘Home Page’.
 
Only 5416 so far this year?
 
Can’t be right shurely? (with apologies to Private Eye)
 
They are going to have to crack on to get a few more listed by the year end. (Last year they managed 7072 that I could see.) So much for the ‘sustained growth’ in their accounts or are they going to tell us that they are succeeding in their objectives, hence the reduced number of cases?
 
In their blurb they tell us that:
 
·       Someone is reported missing every 90 seconds in the UK


·       180,000 people are reported missing every year


·       There are 340,000 reported missing incidents every year


·       Children are more likely to be reported missing than adults: 1 in 200 children goes missing each year; 1 in every 500 adults goes missing every year


How many people go missing each year?


·       Missing people: of the 180,000 people reported missing over 95,000 are adults and over 80,000 are children


·       Missing incidents: of the 340,000 reported incidents over 125,000 incidents are adults and over 210,000 incidents are children


·       Looked after children are at high risk of being reported missing. 1 in 10 looked after children are reported missing each year compared to 1 in 200 total children. Looked after children who are reported missing will be reported on average 6 times


The number of missing incidents is higher than the number of individuals who go missing because some people go missing more than once. Most of the people who are reported missing are vulnerable or at risk and many are reported missing multiple times, making them even more vulnerable.


Under-reporting
Research shows that police data is likely to be a significant underestimate. There are limitations to the NCA data, including differing recording practices and incomplete data, and some people will not be reported missing to the police at all. Research suggests that as many as 7 in 10 children are not reported to the police when they go missing. Little is known about adults who are not reported missing.


What is 'missing'?
The National Police Chiefs' Council's definition for missing: 'Anyone whose whereabouts cannot be established and where the circumstances are out of character or the context suggests the person may be subject of crime or at risk of harm to themselves or another'.
However, it is difficult to provide a singular definition for missing. This largely stems from the huge variety of potential reasons behind a person going missing, and the different ways an incident may be understood by different parties. Adults, unless they are within the criminal justice system or detained under various sections of the Mental Health Act, have a legal right to go missing. For more information regarding this question please see our [url=https://www.missingpeople.org.uk/files/Information sheets/Info_Sheet_What_is_Missing.pdf]information sheet[/url].


so why are they not getting anywhere near this number of referrals?

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Post by aquila on 08.11.18 13:16

Yes Doug D!
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Post by aquila on 08.11.18 13:34

The spurious/confusing figures are the tip of the iceberg.
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