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Post by hermes333 on 16.03.17 13:07


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Post by jeanmonroe on 16.03.17 13:14

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3103842/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-expert-claims-maddie-died-apartment/

SICK MADDIE 'COVER-UP' CLAIMS

Madeleine McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann suffer fresh heartache as second crime expert claims ‘Maddie died in that apartment’

US criminal profiler Pat Brown insists 'Madeleine is dead' in astonishing rant claiming accidental death was covered up

By Tracey Kandohla
16th March 2017, 11:32 am
Updated: 16th March 2017, 1:06 pm

MADELEINE McCann’s parents faced fresh heartache today as a second criminal investigator claimed their daughter “died in the holiday apartment”.
American profiler Pat Brown brutally insisted “Madeleine is dead”, adding in an outrageous rant: “There’s no point spending all of this money as nothing they do is going to make that child be found alive.”
Maddie’s parents have faced intense scrutiny since their daughter disappeared nearly 10 years ago
US criminal profiler Pat Brown has claimed Madeleine’s death was covered up
Ms Brown’s intervention – without a shred of evidence – comes less than 24 hours after Portuguese crime expert Moita Flores voiced similar unfounded claims.
They piled fresh misery on Kate and Gerry as they prepare for the painful tenth anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance from their Algarve holiday flat in May 2007.
Ms Brown, 62, who runs a crime agency in the US, blasted Scotland Yard’s £11million Operation Grange probe into the case.
She told Australian website news.com.au she believes Maddie was never snatched, saying: “An abduction was extremely unlikely based on the amount of time, evidence at the scene and every other shred of evidence there has ever been.”
She believes the three-year-old died in an accidental death that was “covered up” through “neglect and possible medication.”
She added: “It’s my belief the body was moved to a desolate location and will never be found.”
The author and TV crime analyst spoke out after Scotland Yard was granted an extra £85,000 to fund the search for another six months as detectives seek to quiz another witness.
Kate and Gerry McCann are facing fresh heartache in the lead up to the decade anniversary of Maddie’s disappearance
Ms Brown said: “There are other children missing in the UK who aren’t getting this attention that the money should have been spent on.”
Her astonishing attack continued as she claimed the Met Police made a mistake by ruling out suspects early on.
She told the website: “You only eliminate someone as a suspect if they have an alibi and could absolutely not have committed the crime. It shouldn’t be based on theories.
“Their focus was on finding a kidnapper. But the evidence supports the theory of an accident occurring through neglect and possible medication.”
She said that whilst there was “no evidence of an abduction” it couldn’t be ruled out.
Former GP Kate, 49, and heart doctor Gerry, 48, from Rothley, Leics, are clinging onto a glimmer of hope their daughter could still be alive. She would now be nearly 14.
The McCanns recently lost their court appeal to silence ex-cop Goncalo Amaral who claimed they covered up their daughter’s death
The McCanns have been subjected to a torrent of criticism as the search for Maddie goes on
Maddie vanished from the Algarve resort where she was staying with her family
The couple’s spokesman Clarence Mitchell said today: “Kate and Gerry will not be fuelling any of this pure speculation with any comment whatsoever.”
A source close to the family added: “There is no proof that Madeleine died in the holiday apartment or anywhere else, and until there is any shred of evidence her parents believe their daughter could still be alive.
“This so called criminal expert is regurgitating claims made by former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral, she is repeating all the old assertions it seems for shock value.
“Kate and Gerry took legal action against Mr Amaral and they won the case, although they later lost it on appeal.
“They don’t want to be litigious, and they can’t sue everyone, but it appears that people are saying whatever they like.”
Ex-top cop Sue Hill says Madeleine McCann hunt is over-resourced
LBC radio host Katie Hopkins, glamour model Jodie Marsh and Selfie Queen Karen Danczuk have criticised Maddie’s parents over the past fortnight.
And on Monday retired Met Police officer Sue Hill slammed the extra funding for the case as a waste of taxpayers' money on Good Morning Britain.
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Has Tracey Kandohla EVER 'explained' WHY 'she' thinks, other peoples 'opinions' are 'SICK, ASTONISHING, APPALLING, VILE, DISGUSTING etc.,' when 'opined' towards the McCan'ts?
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You only eliminate someone as a suspect if they have an alibi and could absolutely not have committed the crime. It shouldn’t be based on theories."

NOT if you are a 'hard nosed, 'lied to' everyday, 30 year career, elite, experienced cop', you DON'T!

What do you 'reckon', Andy & Nic?

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Re: The Sun Attacks Pat Brown's Theory

Post by princess_leia on 16.03.17 13:18

This journo seems to be writing a lot about the case? 
Is she a McCann supporter? Because I feel she is writing about it, without saying what she really wants to say.

Why keep highlighting the 'attacks' on them? Surely, it would be better to ignore and not report...given the general opinion at the minute. 

Am I being thick or what?

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Post by JRP on 16.03.17 13:25

@jeanmonroe wrote:
A source close to the family added: “There is no proof that Madeleine died in the holiday apartment or anywhere else, and until there is any shred of evidence her parents believe their daughter could still be alive.
“This so called criminal expert is regurgitating claims made by former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral, she is repeating all the old assertions it seems for shock value.


Isn't that the same quote used for the previous days rant about Moita Flores... Cut... Paste... Story Finished. Next

Same quote I think is in this thread... only she swaped he for she Portuguese crime expert launches vile attack on Kate and Gerry over their daughters disappearance.

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Post by Jill Havern on 16.03.17 13:32

All of a sudden Ms Kandohla isn't allowing comments.
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Post by jeanmonroe on 16.03.17 13:37

“This so called criminal expert is regurgitating claims made by former Portuguese police officer Goncalo Amaral, she is repeating all the old assertions it seems for shock value."
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IF they don't 'SUE' her, everyone will have 'carte blanche' to 'regurgitate', at anytime, GA's 'assertions' won't they?

We'll 'see'.


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Post by Keitei on 16.03.17 13:40

Thinks she's flogging a dead horse.  
What ever happened to real journalism? Is she an expert in any field btw?

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Re: The Sun Attacks Pat Brown's Theory

Post by jeanmonroe on 16.03.17 13:47

"...piled fresh misery on Kate and Gerry as they prepare for the painful tenth anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance"

So, they are NOT 'expecting' Madeleine to 'turn up' BEFORE the 'painful tenth anniversary' in May 2017, then?

Wonder WHY they would 'think that'?

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Post by JRP on 16.03.17 13:49

Well at least it "Fresh Misery" and not that stale misery most of us have to put up with when reading her cut and shunt "Exclusives".

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Re: The Sun Attacks Pat Brown's Theory

Post by whatsupdoc on 16.03.17 13:55


Glimpsing into the future, it looks like the Sun will be still pumping the same stories out in 150+ year's time, or was that a little typo of hermes333 ?
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SICK...and 'INCURABLE'

Post by Tony Bennett on 16.03.17 14:01

@jeanmonroe wrote:https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3103842/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-expert-claims-maddie-died-apartment/

SICK MADDIE 'COVER-UP' CLAIMS

Madeleine McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann suffer fresh heartache as second crime expert claims ‘Maddie died in that apartment’
So, according to the Sun...

Moite Flores - SICK 

Pat Brown - SICK

Goncalo Amaral - SICK

Tavares de Almeida - SICK

Wendy Murphy - SICK

and maybe, sooner or later...

...anyone who doubts the claim that Madeleine was abducted - SICK.

It's certainly all heading that way at the moment.

And according to a certain article by researchers at the University of Huddersfield - which has been published in the scientific journal Nature, many British newspapers and even the famous Washington Post, not only are they all sick, but also...INCURABLE.

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Post by Doug D on 16.03.17 14:02

Maybe ‘our Trace’ has taken over the £500k contract from Bell Pottinger to keep the Mc’s on the front pages for another year!
 
£490 ‘investment’? (Only joking).
    
She certainly keeps on churning out rubbish at a rate of knots.

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Post by Guest on 16.03.17 14:11

@Tony Bennett wrote:
@jeanmonroe wrote:https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3103842/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-expert-claims-maddie-died-apartment/

SICK MADDIE 'COVER-UP' CLAIMS

Madeleine McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann suffer fresh heartache as second crime expert claims ‘Maddie died in that apartment’
So, according to the Sun...

Moite Flores - SICK 

Pat Brown - SICK

Goncalo Amaral - SICK

Tavares de Almeida - SICK

Wendy Murphy - SICK

and maybe, sooner or later...

...anyone who doubts the claim that Madeleine was abducted - SICK.

It's certainly all heading that way at the moment.

And according to a certain article by researchers at the University of Huddersfield - which has been published in the scientific journal Nature, many British newspapers and even the famous Washington Post, not only are they all sick, but also...INCURABLE.
Although they use the predictable adjectives to distance themselves and keep their own powder dry, they are highlighting alternative narratives which has to be a good thing surely?  It's like someone else has loaded the gun and they fire the bullets. As for Dr Synnott, I really think he's looking increasingly misguided in my opinion and whilst it might have seemed like a good way to grab headlines at the time the way it's going makes him look increasingly foolish having chosen subjects who an increasing number of people are willing to implicate in Madeleine's disappearance.



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Post by sandancer on 16.03.17 14:16

Poor Tracey​ must be​ absolutely exhausted having to pump out​ all this bilge day after day​ 

Her little fingers must​ be worn to the bone .

She's​ clearly finding it hard to make up new phrases " fresh misery/ heartache​ " are old hat now pet !

Still​ they let​ her​ continue , is she paid​ by the article ? Surely she's earned enough for​ a holiday by now​ ?

Ok , any guesses​ what tomorrow's article is going​ to say , who are they​ going to " not comment on / sue " next ? 
Vernon​ Coleman , not another​ doctor​ surely !!      splat

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Post by sallypelt on 16.03.17 14:27

PAT BROWN @ProfilerPatB
I think the Sun has actually quite cleverly laced the truth in with all the badmouthing of me. It's grand! #mccann https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3103842/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-expert-claims-maddie-died-apartment/ …

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Post by puzzled on 16.03.17 15:04

@sallypelt wrote:PAT BROWN @ProfilerPatB
I think the Sun has actually quite cleverly laced the truth in with all the badmouthing of me. It's grand! #mccann https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3103842/madeleine-mccann-parents-kate-gerry-expert-claims-maddie-died-apartment/ …

I think so too. The papers are probably still afraid of getting sued, so they have to make a show of following the "official" line. But the information is there, and it's reaching the public.

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Post by jeanmonroe on 16.03.17 15:56

Why haven't we 'heard' that Farter Cluck HAVE 'issued' a 'flurry' of writs against these 'so called'.. 'foreign, criminal experts'?

'Ask haysmacintire, Jean"

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Post by jeanmonroe on 16.03.17 16:02

SICK MADDIE 'COVER-UP' CLAIMS Madeleine McCann’s parents Kate and Gerry McCann suffer fresh heartache as second crime expert claims ‘Maddie died in that apartment’
US criminal profiler Pat Brown insists 'Madeleine is dead' in astonishing rant claiming accidental death was covered up

PAT BROWN‏ @ProfilerPatB 5m5 minutes ago I think the Sun has actually quite cleverly laced the truth in with all the badmouthing of me. It's grand! #mccann

PAT BROWN‏ @ProfilerPatB · 24m24 minutes ago

Finally, the U.K. Press is admitting how many crime analysts don't support the abduction theory. #mccann

PAT BROWN‏ @ProfilerPatB · 25m25 minutes ago

Hardly "unfounded" claims, hardly "regurgitating old claims for shock value." I have spent over half a decade analyzing the #mccann case.

PAT BROWN‏ @ProfilerPatB · 38m38 minutes ago

That my determinations happen to align with Amaral's simply means that the evidence is what the evidence is. #mccann

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Post by jeanmonroe on 16.03.17 16:11

As Pat Brown 'posts' on #McCann will one, any, or all, of 'our' three university forensic psychologists, John Synnott, Andrea Coulias, and Maria Ioannou be proclaiming, publicly, TODAY, 16th March, 2017, that 'she' is an 'anti-McCan't troll' and that 'she' cannot 'be cured'?

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Post by sallypelt on 16.03.17 16:18

@jeanmonroe wrote:As Pat Brown 'posts' on #McCann will one, or all, of 'our' three university forensic psychologists, John Synnott, Andria Coulias, and Maria Ioannou be proclaiming, publicly, TODAy, that 'she' is an 'anti-McCan't troll' and that 'she' cannot 'be cured'?
Andria Coulias ( correct spelling of her name is Andrea) is having far too much attention paid to her. Considering she's such an accomplished "researcher" there is very little about her on the internet, other than the usual FB and Twitter accounts, as one would expect from a 24 year old spin .

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Post by Mirage on 16.03.17 16:25

@jeanmonroe wrote:As Pat Brown 'posts' on #McCann will one, or all, of 'our' three university forensic psychologists, John Synnott, Andria Coulias, and Maria Ioannou be proclaiming, publicly, TODAy, that 'she' is an 'anti-McCan't troll' and that 'she' cannot 'be cured'?
Will Dara O Briain tweet she's  an "@rsehole"?

Will Allsopp say she belongs  to a "subset of people"?

Or perhaps Summers and Swann will put in another comic appearance and call her a "h-h-h-H-AT-er".

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Post by jeanmonroe on 16.03.17 16:28

You'd 'like' Martin B to 'door step' Pat B, wouldn't you?

I'm certain Pat would be most courteous and invite Martin and his bodyguard cameraman 'in' for erm, 'a chat'.

As 'Churchy' would 'say'


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Post by Mirage on 16.03.17 16:32

@jeanmonroe wrote:You'd 'like' Martin B to 'door step' Pat B, wouldn't you?
Yep. It would be like a teeny tiny insect flying into a Venus fly trap, never to be seen or heard of again . big grin

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Post by sallypelt on 16.03.17 16:37

‘The only Madeleine McCann theory that stacks up’

A CRIME expert who has analysed the high profile case of missing child Madeleine McCann claims the three-year-old was not abducted.
Investigative Criminal Profiler and Profile of the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann author Pat Brown told news.com.au that Scotland Yard bungled the investigation and slammed the crime fighting agency for “wasting time and money” on Madeleine’s case.
“Madeleine is dead,” Ms Brown said.
“There’s no point spending all of this money as nothing they do is going to make that child alive.”
While profiling the case, Ms Brown developed a theory about what happened to Madeleine.
“When I do a crime scene analysis it is a theory based on evidence to then be given to police and used to look for more proof and evidence suitable for prosecution,” she said.
“When I analysed (Madeleine’s) case, it led me to believe evidence does not support an abduction.
“An abduction was extremely unlikely based on the amount of time, evidence at the scene, and every other shred of evidence there has ever been.”
Ms Brown said Madeleine most likely died an accidental death that was “covered up”.


“The evidence supports the theory of an accident occurring through neglect and possible medication,” she said.
“It’s my belief the body was moved to a desolate location and will never be found.”
Ms Brown’s comments come after British police investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann nearly 10 years ago were last week granted STG85,000 ($A136,935) to extend the search for a further six months.
The British Home Office has granted officers the funds to continue the probe until September.
There is one person who was near the area where Madeleine went missing who police want to speak to, the Sunday Express reported.
To date a total of STG11.1 million ($A17.9 million) has been spent looking for Madeleine.
“There are other children missing in the UK who aren't getting this attention that the money should have been spent on,” Ms Brown said.

Madeleine disappeared from the family’s holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal as her parents Kate and Gerry McCann dined with friends at a nearby restaurant in May 2007. If alive, Madeleine would now be 13 years old.
Ms Brown said Scotland Yard investigators made a mistake by ruling out suspects early on.
“You only eliminate someone as a suspect if they have an alibi and could absolutely not have committed the crime,” she said.
“It shouldn’t be based on theories.”
Ms Brown said the biggest mistake investigators made was examining and reviewing the case working to the theory that Madeleine had been abducted.
“They came in with a purpose and stated there was an abductor,” she said.
“Their focus was on finding a kidnapper.”
Ms Brown said there was “no evidence of an abduction” but that didn’t mean it hadn’t occurred.
“On the other hand it doesn’t mean it did,” she said.
“But because there’s no evidence of an abduction one has to look at other possibilities as well.”

Ms Brown said it was “extremely unlikely” anyone from a child sex ring would have abducted Madeleine. She said children could be illegally bought in some poor areas or “easily taken from drug addicts and prostitutes”.
“Even blonde ones,” she said.
‘They’re not going to steal a British tourist from a holiday resort because they know that will prompt a major investigation into them.”

Kate and Gerry McCann, have always denied any involvement in her death and vowed to “never give up” hope of finding their daughter.
“As a parent of an abducted child, I can tell you that it is the most painful and agonising experience you could ever imagine,” Ms McCann wrote on the couple’s ‘find Madeleine’ website.
“My thoughts of the fear, confusion and loss of love and security that my precious daughter has had to endure are unbearable — crippling.
“And yet I am not the victim, Madeleine is.
“No child should ever have to experience something so terrible.”

Last month, Kate and Gerry McCann lost their appeal in Portugal’s Supreme Court over a controversial book by former detective Goncalo Amaral called The Truth of the Lie.
In it, he claimed Maddie had “died” and her abduction was a “cover-up”.
Amaral led the initial investigation into Madeleine’s apparent abduction.
The McCanns have lodged a formal complaint against the ruling and are reportedly considering taking their case to the European Court of Human Rights.
The parents are bracing themselves for the heart wrenching 10th anniversary of Madeleine’s disappearance in just a few weeks.

It's safe to say that Pat Brown pulls no punches.

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/the-only-madeleine-mccann-theory-that-stacks-up/news-story/44291faa8d69db7e9d6b6a40fe4b5205



Let's see of they get this one pulled.

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Re: The Sun Attacks Pat Brown's Theory

Post by BlueBag on 16.03.17 16:41

Good for Pat Brown.

It surely can't be "outrageous" to have the opinion that Madeleine died in 5A based on the evidence of the dogs.

It is outrageous that a newspaper should claim it is.

How do they sleep?

It was the Sun who posted the dogs video in the first place!
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