Re: Gerald McCann: CATS system - registration number 19309

by Ashwarya 06.05.12 0:04

Thanks for the link - a very illuminating read.

by jd 06.05.12 0:29

jd wrote:Just adding this for info for later reference

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jd, I have deleted your copy and paste from above. I'm afraid some of it seems highly libellous.

Anyone can read above link

Ok thanks CF. Ive saved it anyway just incase steel magnolia disappears one day!

by Spaniel 06.05.12 0:53

jd wrote:
jd wrote:Just adding this for info for later reference

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jd, I have deleted your copy and paste from above. I'm afraid some of it seems highly libellous.

Anyone can read above link

Ok thanks CF. Ive saved it anyway just incase steel magnolia disappears one day!

I don't understand how "losing" his credit cards could benefit him in any way.

I do remember by my looking at a 2007 calendar how tight the timeline was in delivering them via friends from Amsterdam to PdL, taking into account there was a weekend in between. Plus the fact they were originally posted by the thief to the wrong address.

by **PeterMac** 06.05.12 7:41

Be very careful with Operation Ore. It was not what it originally seemed.
At base it was a credit card scam operated from South America, which because of the way it was set up suggested to the investigating officers that something was amiss.
The bloke who ran it has confessed and is horrified at the consequences.
There are good explanations of what happened out there on the net.
A lot of people were accused of something they had not done.

by **tigger** 06.05.12 7:53

PeterMac wrote:Be very careful with Operation Ore. It was not what it originally seemed.
At base it was a credit card scam operated from South America, which because of the way it was set up suggested to the investigating officers that something was amiss.
The bloke who ran it has confessed and is horrified at the consequences.
There are good explanations of what happened out there on the net.
A lot of people were accused of something they had not done.

Not long ago a pensioner committed suicide in Cardiff. He'd bought a second hand computer which had deleted porn on the hard drive. As you know that can be retrieved. Police questioned him and although they let him go - his name had been in the papers. Very sad.

Although I must add that anything TB slaps a D notice on, would get my immediate attention.

by **PeterMac** 06.05.12 7:58

There was a funny article the other day from a woman who wanted a pond cleaned, and instead of putting "Woman WITH waders" into google, put "Women IN Waders".
Her husband found her with the screen open !
In that case it was relatively harmless and quite funny, but it is easy to do, and once the keystrokes have been made and the screen has opened it is there for all time on our hard disc.

by rainbow-fairy 06.05.12 9:56

PeterMac wrote:There was a funny article the other day from a woman who wanted a pond cleaned, and instead of putting "Woman WITH waders" into google, put "Women IN Waders".
Her husband found her with the screen open !
In that case it was relatively harmless and quite funny, but it is easy to do, and once the keystrokes have been made and the screen has opened it is there for all time on our hard disc.

Oh Gawd PeterMac, reminds me of when I was looking for a new bit for the horse I was riding at the time...without thinking I just googled "53/4" Dutch gag with French link"
I'll leave to the imagination the results that flashed up (pun totally intended!) *blushes*

by Guest 06.05.12 15:22

Apologies for continuing to ramble off subject but here's another misunderstanding. It's from The Sun though!

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I'd be happy if The Sun printed nothing but that sort of story rather than letting idiots like Antonella Lazzeri loose to spout bile every day!

by Pershing36 07.05.12 2:20

I think this CATS number is a dead end. Whether the file ever contained anything or has been emptied is only speculation now. I can't see anything coming of this, however it would be nice for somebody in authority to explain it.

by Guest 09.09.14 20:56

...19309 in the CATS...

Ah.... do you have a cat named one nine three oh nine....

I wondered what she was talking about.

How interesting.

In the PJ files as well.

What with this and Gosper you have to wonder.

by Loving Mom 19.02.15 16:00

BlueBag wrote:
...19309 in the CATS...

Ah.... do you have a cat named one nine three oh nine....

I wondered what she was talking about.

How interesting.

In the PJ files as well.

What with this and Gosper you have to wonder.

This morning while reading a topic or two on this forum I read that there is CATS file for GM (#19309). I also read on a different topic that there is an empty CATS file for KM (#19309). First time I realized that GM and KM both share a CATS file #19309. If what I've read is true, does that imply that this was a file #19309 assigned to both parents regarding MM disappearance (that is what makes sense)? Since it is empty I'm guessing that means when CATS spoke to the parents regarding MM disappearance it was determined at that time that no further action was necessary...
More important, it got me to wondering if DPayne has a CATS file but when I tried to look up here on the forum I did not see reference to a CATS file for him or not. Can anyone here answer or point me in the right direction regard any info on a possible CATS for DP?

by G-Unit 19.02.15 16:26

rainbow-fairy wrote:
PeterMac wrote:There was a funny article the other day from a woman who wanted a pond cleaned, and instead of putting "Woman WITH waders" into google, put "Women IN Waders".
Her husband found her with the screen open !
In that case it was relatively harmless and quite funny, but it is easy to do, and once the keystrokes have been made and the screen has opened it is there for all time on our hard disc.
Oh Gawd PeterMac, reminds me of when I was looking for a new bit for the horse I was riding at the time...without thinking I just googled "53/4" Dutch gag with French link"
I'll leave to the imagination the results that flashed up (pun totally intended!) *blushes*

I had restrictions on my browser coz of grandkids and it wouldn't let me look for info on my cockatiels

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by noddy100 19.02.15 17:39

What exactly is a CATS file? I have an idea just from reading on here but am not 100% sure how you can have an empty one
but it mean nothing? In that case surely we all might have one?

by worriedmum 19.02.15 18:23

noddy100 wrote:What exactly is a CATS file? I have an idea just from reading on here but am not 100% sure how you can have an empty one
but it mean nothing? In that case surely we all might have one?

Yes I have always wondered that. Who has the authority to 'empty' the file? And is there independent confirmation of this file?

by rustyjames 19.02.15 22:25

worriedmum wrote:
noddy100 wrote:What exactly is a CATS file? I have an idea just from reading on here but am not 100% sure how you can have an empty one
but it mean nothing? In that case surely we all might have one?
Yes I have always wondered that. Who has the authority to 'empty' the file? And is there independent confirmation of this file?

Confirmation of the empty files was provided in background checks by Leicester Police ....

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by Knitted 13.04.15 22:39

...I'm simply bumping this thread for the benefit of members of the public Googling CAT 19309 following a recent Westminster public protest referred to on the CMoMM Facebook site. Currently Google ranks this page on its 5th page of returns and so members of the public that saw the banner (see below) and wonder what it's all about may not plough through that far. Hopefully this 'bump', with the title of CAT 19309, and CAT 19309 appearing several times in this text, will boost this page in the Google returns and people will find it easier!

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by Masterblaster 14.04.15 9:38

If you Google CAT19309 (without spacing) this forum is at the top of the list.

by plebgate 14.04.15 12:03

Will the banner man be tracked down and sued?

by Knitted 14.04.15 12:38

Masterblaster wrote:If you Google CAT19309 (without spacing) this forum is at the top of the list.

Hi, it's back at the top today (with or without spacing). I've just typed a bit on the 'surge of interest...' thread about why there's a stark contrast with my results from yesterday.

by Gaggzy 14.04.15 12:48

plebgate wrote:Will the banner man be tracked down and sued?

For what?

He probably considered writing McCann on it then thought, Nah, don't want to give them the chance to sue me.

A clever bit of banner writing, in my opinion.

by Knitted 14.04.15 12:52

plebgate wrote:Will the banner man be tracked down and sued?

... imagine the traffic boost to relevant webpages if they did!!

All he was doing was suggesting some keywords to search outside the seat of *coughs* UK Democracy... So they'd be mad to kick up a fuss.

by **Tony Bennett** 14.04.15 13:26

plebgate wrote:Will the banner man be tracked down and sued?

So we now have...Tannerman...AND...Bannerman

by Muzz Lightyear 14.04.15 13:39

That was Blue Mink (who did Bannerman)

by Guest 14.04.15 21:16

I wonder if Bannerman is an acquaintance of Rosalinda Hutton. He's wearing a WTF T-shirt and she's currently writing a series of blogs entitled, WTF Moments. She's also involved with the child abuse campaign. I'd bet that SP was filming the demo.

by Google.Gaspar.Statements 15.04.15 8:07

Ladyinred wrote:I wonder if Bannerman is an acquaintance of Rosalinda Hutton. He's wearing a WTF T-shirt and she's currently writing a series of blogs entitled, WTF Moments. She's also involved with the child abuse campaign. I'd bet that SP was filming the demo.

At least she's not writing disgusting blogs about Tony at the moment.

She says she's a journalist but it's clear she spends most of her life writing blogs. Does she get paid for that or is she really just an unemployed blogger?

by Guest 15.04.15 8:14

I don't believe bloggers get paid. It's more like a hobby.

RH also states she's a playwright and author, and studies human behaviour.

by Google.Gaspar.Statements 15.04.15 8:28

Ladyinred wrote:I don't believe bloggers get paid. It's more like a hobby.

RH also states she's a playwright and author, and studies human behaviour.

I wonder if she studies her own human behaviour? It's really disgusting.

by NickE 18.04.15 20:26

Could this have something to do with the empty file?

Leicester Mercury 24/2-2015

"A police officer who gained unauthorised access to information on force computers could be facing a jail sentence.
Pc Andrew Clay (50) appeared at [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] to plead guilty to six charges of securing unauthorised access to computer material, between September 2002 and March 2013.

Five counts relate to seeking information about individuals and, in three of those cases it also included their family members.
The sixth offence involved seeking information about alleged sex offences in the North West Leicestershire area.
After the guilty pleas were entered, Clay’s barrister, Jonathan Cox, said: “He now intends to formally resign from the constabulary.”
Judge Simon Hammond adjourned the case, for the preparation of a pre-sentence report.
Clay, who lives near [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], where he was based, was released on bail and will be sentenced at a later date.
Judge Hammond said: “All sentencing options remain open and that includes custody.”
Clay was suspended from duty pending the court hearing.
The charges under the Misuse of Computer Act 1990 follow an investigation by the force’s anti-corruption unit.
Detective Inspector Ferguson said after the hearing: “Clay abused his position as a Leicestershire police officer in order to access confidential information for his own personal gain.
“The force takes incidents of this nature extremely seriously and, as this case demonstrates, we will thoroughly investigate any information received of employees misusing police systems.
“We regularly monitor and scrutinise the use of data and why information is being accessed to ensure it is appropriate.
“Any Leicestershire Police employee who chooses to disregard force policy risks dismissal from the force, and if a criminal offence has been committed, can expect the case to be brought before the courts.”
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by Guest 18.04.15 20:29

I'm sure SY have looked into this....

..and found nothing.

Move along.

by Loving Mom 23.04.15 6:42

Tony Bennett wrote:
Judge Mental wrote:It needs to be established whether the person who made the original file ever recorded anything in it. If they did, and it is no longer there to be viewed, then it must be assumed that something has been deleted from the file.
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YES.

Here is a provisional list of questions that simply MUST be asked about this:

1. On what date was this entry made?

2. Who was the officer who inputted the information and drew down the reference number 19309?

3. S/he must be able to recall why this was done. So, what was s/he told, when and by whom?

4. What information does s/he recollect placing on these records?

5. Has any information on record 19309 been removed?

6. If so, by whom, and when?

7. If so, why?

8. What investigations did Detective Constable Snoad make about this matter before he spoke to Detective Constable Hughes?

9. Did either Detective Constable Hughes or one of his superiors cause enquiries to be made about the provenance of the 19309 entry?

I am curious, did anyone ever find out the answer to question 1. On what date was this entry made?