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Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Tony Bennett 06.12.16 23:47
More farce.
Mark Williams-Thomas, the man who tried in 2007 and failed to be the McCanns' agent, and who said that Madeleine's disappearance was similar to that of Joana Cipriano, has spoken out on the Maddie McCann case.
The article is notable for including pics of Madeleine alongside Jimmy Savile and Mark Wiliams-Thomas, who is hailed as the 'hero who first exposed Savile'.
For any guest reading here who is unaware of Williams-Thomas's pronouncements on the Maddie case, in 2007 he said that Madeleine had been abducted in a similar way to how Joana had allegedly been abducted.
In actual fact, the 8-year-old had been cruelly murdered, and her body cut up and disposed of, by her mother Leonor Cipriano and her uncle Joao Cipriano. Both are now serving very lenient 16-year jail terms for their monstrous crime. They had claimed that Joana had been abducted. The case was solved by Goncalo Amaral, the man thrown off the Maddie case after 'phone calls from the then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, to the Portuguese Prime Minister, in September 2007.
See also the thread on CMOMM entitled 'The Mark Williams-Thomas thread':
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Investigator who exposed Jimmy Savile questions theory traffickers snatched Maddie McCann
THE TV investigator who exposed Jimmy Savile as a sex monster has questioned the police's new theory Madeleine McCann was snatched by a trafficking gang.
By Jerry Lawton / Published 6th December 2016
MISSING: The theory of Maddie's abduction by traffickers was questioned by Mark Williams-Thomas
Mark Williams-Thomas suggested if traffickers had broken into the McCanns' Portuguese holiday apartment in 2007 instead of abducting Madeleine they would have probably taken her sister Amelie sleeping just feet away.
Skeptics have pointed out the younger child was only two and would have been easier to abduct, lighter to carry and smaller to conceal.
The TV investigator has publicly questioned the Brit police's new theory.
They claim she would have had poorer speech skills than her sister – who was then nearly four – and in time would have been less likely to be able to recall her ordeal or true family.
Mr Williams-Thomas, 46, who outed Savile as a paedophile in a documentary after his death, tweeted: ''How many cases exist of traffickers breaking into house & abducting a 3yr old from their bed whilst leaving another younger female child?'
Williams-Thomas outed Savile as a paedophile in a documentary.
For months the Metropolitan Police had believed missing Madeleine was taken by a burglary gang during a botched raid on her family's apartment.
But earlier this week it was revealed they now think she was snatched by traffickers who had been watching and photographing children in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz in the days leading up to her disappearance.
For months the Met Police had believed missing Maddie was taken by a burglary gang.
Scotland Yard detectives have had a tip a Belgian paedophile ring placed an order for a 'young girl' just three days before she vanished.
Portuguese police agree it is the most likely solution to a mystery that has gripped the world for nine years.
Brit officers have been given funding for four more months to find out what happened to the youngster.
Mark Williams-Thomas, the man who tried in 2007 and failed to be the McCanns' agent, and who said that Madeleine's disappearance was similar to that of Joana Cipriano, has spoken out on the Maddie McCann case.
The article is notable for including pics of Madeleine alongside Jimmy Savile and Mark Wiliams-Thomas, who is hailed as the 'hero who first exposed Savile'.
For any guest reading here who is unaware of Williams-Thomas's pronouncements on the Maddie case, in 2007 he said that Madeleine had been abducted in a similar way to how Joana had allegedly been abducted.
In actual fact, the 8-year-old had been cruelly murdered, and her body cut up and disposed of, by her mother Leonor Cipriano and her uncle Joao Cipriano. Both are now serving very lenient 16-year jail terms for their monstrous crime. They had claimed that Joana had been abducted. The case was solved by Goncalo Amaral, the man thrown off the Maddie case after 'phone calls from the then Prime Minister, Gordon Brown, to the Portuguese Prime Minister, in September 2007.
See also the thread on CMOMM entitled 'The Mark Williams-Thomas thread':
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http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/568148/Madeleine-McCann-Jimmy-Savile-sex-monster-theory-investigator
Investigator who exposed Jimmy Savile questions theory traffickers snatched Maddie McCann
THE TV investigator who exposed Jimmy Savile as a sex monster has questioned the police's new theory Madeleine McCann was snatched by a trafficking gang.
By Jerry Lawton / Published 6th December 2016
MISSING: The theory of Maddie's abduction by traffickers was questioned by Mark Williams-Thomas
Mark Williams-Thomas suggested if traffickers had broken into the McCanns' Portuguese holiday apartment in 2007 instead of abducting Madeleine they would have probably taken her sister Amelie sleeping just feet away.
Skeptics have pointed out the younger child was only two and would have been easier to abduct, lighter to carry and smaller to conceal.
The TV investigator has publicly questioned the Brit police's new theory.
They claim she would have had poorer speech skills than her sister – who was then nearly four – and in time would have been less likely to be able to recall her ordeal or true family.
Mr Williams-Thomas, 46, who outed Savile as a paedophile in a documentary after his death, tweeted: ''How many cases exist of traffickers breaking into house & abducting a 3yr old from their bed whilst leaving another younger female child?'
Williams-Thomas outed Savile as a paedophile in a documentary.
For months the Metropolitan Police had believed missing Madeleine was taken by a burglary gang during a botched raid on her family's apartment.
But earlier this week it was revealed they now think she was snatched by traffickers who had been watching and photographing children in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz in the days leading up to her disappearance.
For months the Met Police had believed missing Maddie was taken by a burglary gang.
Scotland Yard detectives have had a tip a Belgian paedophile ring placed an order for a 'young girl' just three days before she vanished.
Portuguese police agree it is the most likely solution to a mystery that has gripped the world for nine years.
Brit officers have been given funding for four more months to find out what happened to the youngster.
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Guest 07.12.16 11:15
Surely by now, anyone who knows even the tiniest about this case can no longer still believe the official "story". What a farce this whole sorry charade has turned out to be. Pantomime season is here.
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Re;Mark Williams Thomas.
by willowthewisp 07.12.16 13:41
Imagine having Sir Bernard Hogan Howe and Mark Williams Thomas debating Operation Midland/Ore on child abuse allegations,IICSA,as they are all linked to children thought to have been abused?
Then throw into the process the Metropolitan Police service record on Care Homes involving children around London Borough's,you would have to have another Channel 4"After hours"program series just on the one issue,child abuse and who has failed them?
If Scotland Yard wish to still claim to be the"Best Police Force"on solving Crime,they'ed need to absolve themselves from the "Unsolved Murders" of Jill Dando,Daniel Morgan and the amount of deceit,corruption involving both past serving Officers and present day ones,not forgetting the framing of"Ian Puddick,unbelievable"?
Then throw into the process the Metropolitan Police service record on Care Homes involving children around London Borough's,you would have to have another Channel 4"After hours"program series just on the one issue,child abuse and who has failed them?
If Scotland Yard wish to still claim to be the"Best Police Force"on solving Crime,they'ed need to absolve themselves from the "Unsolved Murders" of Jill Dando,Daniel Morgan and the amount of deceit,corruption involving both past serving Officers and present day ones,not forgetting the framing of"Ian Puddick,unbelievable"?
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Richard D. Hall 08.12.16 23:55
I presume that Mark Williams-Thomas does not have an internet connection. Be wary of media people who win "awards". It's MI5's way of telling people who to respect.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Tony Bennett 09.12.16 8:42
One of the many very curious things about Mark Wiliams-Thomas is why he of all people, was selected to present the first-ever YV programme which officially pronounced Jimmy Savile a serial paedophile. This was by reference to his conduct at a boarding school for girls in bSruery called Duncome IIRC.Richard D. Hall wrote:I presume that Mark Williams-Thomas does not have an internet connection. Be wary of media people who win "awards". It's MI5's way of telling people who to respect.
Why him? Ever since then, both he himself and the media have promoted him as 'the man who outed Jimmy Savile'. That gives him huge (but IMO undeserved) credibility, on which he has succesfully traded, producing more TV films on child sexual abuse which have made him even more famous. The mainstream TV media are always running to him for comment.
He is also the only individual I know who openly boasts on Twitter of regulary watching child sexual abuse images. Apparently the police allow him to do this because, well, he's an expert criminologist, expert adviser on sex offending, expert on child sexual abuse etc etc. So he must be doing it for 'research'. That defence didn't help Pete Townshend from The Who.
The only group of people allowed to watch child abuse images are the police and the Internet Watch Foundation AFAIK. Mark Williams-Thomas is NOT a police officer, having left Surrey Police early in his career under mysterious circumstances.
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Dr Martin Roberts: "The evidence is that these are the pjyamas Madeleine wore on holiday in Praia da Luz. They were photographed and the photo handed to a press agency, who released it on 8 May, as the search for Madeleine continued. The McCanns held up these same pyjamas at two press conferences on 5 & 7June 2007. How could Madeleine have been abducted?"
Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Richard IV 09.12.16 10:17
Apparently he had to leave the police in order to expose JS. This is the heading of a Sunday Times article but the majority of the content is behind a paywall.
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/newsreview/features/article1172557.ece
http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/newsreview/features/article1172557.ece
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Doug D 09.12.16 10:40
Really?
Something of a poetical license:
‘I had to leave the police to expose him’
‘but he left the Surrey force 10 years ago and switched to broadcasting, setting himself up as a man who could bring his investigative skills to journalism.’
‘This year (2012) he pulled off the journalistic coup of the year: Williams-Thomas is Jimmy Savile’s nemesis’
I know this is only from Wiki, but still:
‘was a constable and family liaison officer with Surrey Police[5] from 1989 to 2000.’
‘Between 2001 and 2002, Williams-Thomas was the marketing manager and a director of GumFighters,[11] a "national chewing gum removal specialist". The company were hired by various councils to clean their streets.’
In 2003 Mark Williams-Thomas was charged with blackmailing a funeral home director, after alleging that there were multiple bodies buried in unmarked graves. An article ran in a national Sunday paper describing the mass burials. He was acquitted.
In 2005, he set up WT Associates, an independent child protection consultancy firm.
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‘had to leave the police to expose him’
?????????? Hmmmmmmm!
Something of a poetical license:
‘I had to leave the police to expose him’
‘but he left the Surrey force 10 years ago and switched to broadcasting, setting himself up as a man who could bring his investigative skills to journalism.’
‘This year (2012) he pulled off the journalistic coup of the year: Williams-Thomas is Jimmy Savile’s nemesis’
I know this is only from Wiki, but still:
‘was a constable and family liaison officer with Surrey Police[5] from 1989 to 2000.’
‘Between 2001 and 2002, Williams-Thomas was the marketing manager and a director of GumFighters,[11] a "national chewing gum removal specialist". The company were hired by various councils to clean their streets.’
In 2003 Mark Williams-Thomas was charged with blackmailing a funeral home director, after alleging that there were multiple bodies buried in unmarked graves. An article ran in a national Sunday paper describing the mass burials. He was acquitted.
In 2005, he set up WT Associates, an independent child protection consultancy firm.
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‘had to leave the police to expose him’
?????????? Hmmmmmmm!
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Re;Mark Williams Thomas.
by willowthewisp 09.12.16 10:58
So Mark Williams Thomas,described as "Jimmy's"Nemesis?
How do the public know or can trust if the Police had"Protected Saville"all along from the children he had abused with his connections to Haute De Le Guranne,don't forget who Jimmy was friends with,a well known Serial Killer who it took the Police Forces years to catch,"I;m Jack"now thought to be well enough in a Normal Prison Environment?
In today's headlines nearly 100 suspects thought to be involved with the abuse of children connected to Football?
It is hard to comprehend,that people who are trained in Policing methods,to"Protect and Serve"may not be being dishonoured,by doing their "Duty"to protect the Queen or King of England,much the same as the"Oath"any MP has to undertake,to stand as a Member of Parliament,To the King or Queen of England?
The Surrey Police Force MWT had to leave to catch his"Nemesis"were involved in at least Four notable cases.
Guildford Four and the Maguire Seven.
Deaths at Deepcut barracks.
Murder of Milly Dowler.
Operation Arundel and Operation Ravine,Walton Hop,JK,Chris Denning,Operation Yewtree?
Which then begs the question,perhaps our system of Government is the Wrong one?
How do the public know or can trust if the Police had"Protected Saville"all along from the children he had abused with his connections to Haute De Le Guranne,don't forget who Jimmy was friends with,a well known Serial Killer who it took the Police Forces years to catch,"I;m Jack"now thought to be well enough in a Normal Prison Environment?
In today's headlines nearly 100 suspects thought to be involved with the abuse of children connected to Football?
It is hard to comprehend,that people who are trained in Policing methods,to"Protect and Serve"may not be being dishonoured,by doing their "Duty"to protect the Queen or King of England,much the same as the"Oath"any MP has to undertake,to stand as a Member of Parliament,To the King or Queen of England?
The Surrey Police Force MWT had to leave to catch his"Nemesis"were involved in at least Four notable cases.
Guildford Four and the Maguire Seven.
Deaths at Deepcut barracks.
Murder of Milly Dowler.
Operation Arundel and Operation Ravine,Walton Hop,JK,Chris Denning,Operation Yewtree?
Which then begs the question,perhaps our system of Government is the Wrong one?
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by sar 09.12.16 11:43
willowthewisp wrote:So Mark Williams Thomas,described as "Jimmy's"Nemesis?
How do the public know or can trust if the Police had"Protected Saville"all along from the children he had abused with his connections to Haute De Le Guranne,don't forget who Jimmy was friends with,a well known Serial Killer who it took the Police Forces years to catch,"I;m Jack"now thought to be well enough in a Normal Prison Environment?
In today's headlines nearly 100 suspects thought to be involved with the abuse of children connected to Football?
It is hard to comprehend,that people who are trained in Policing methods,to"Protect and Serve"may not be being dishonoured,by doing their "Duty"to protect the Queen or King of England,much the same as the"Oath"any MP has to undertake,to stand as a Member of Parliament,To the King or Queen of England?
The Surrey Police Force MWT had to leave to catch his"Nemesis"were involved in at least Four notable cases.
Guildford Four and the Maguire Seven.
Deaths at Deepcut barracks.
Murder of Milly Dowler.
Operation Arundel and Operation Ravine,Walton Hop,JK,Chris Denning,Operation Yewtree?
Which then begs the question,perhaps our system of Government is the Wrong one?
I think childlines was just an "early warning system" for nonces in this country. It gave them a "heads up" as to how much the authorities knew / wether they had "gone too far" Disgusting and disgraceful. In stead of protecting children it did the opposite.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Guest 09.12.16 12:35
Mark Williams-Thomas wearing his investigative journalist hat, who traveled to Cambodia where he (allegedly) uncovered a paedophile network, so say the 'intelligent tabloid'..
The raid in capital Phnom Penh came after ITV Exposure programme investigator Mark Williams-Thomas posed as a paedophile and caught the city’s tuk-tuk taxi drivers offering girls for sex.
He handed over evidence to police who said: “One man has been arrested and hopefully more action will follow thanks to the information we have been given.”
In September, we revealed details of the programme showing footage of British paedophile Reginald Blakeley, 71, with his arms around a young local boy.
Experts told how predators posed as charity workers or teachers to get to children.
Mr Williams-Thomas, who was offered a 10-year-old girl in the investigation, said of the arrest: “This is a brilliant result.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-cambodia-seized-suspect-rescued-2715663
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Not the same time frame admittedly, by coincidence Jim Gamble, ex-Chief Executive of the CEOP, only three years earlier was caught doing dodgy dealings in Cambodia - poking around Prey Sar prison without authority. Snipped from a conspiracy source..
The Chief of the Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, has not responded to Matt Harland’s email complaint.
No further action was taken.
Impunity
It seems that uncontrolled officers, like Jim Gamble, can do whatever they wish in a foreign country.
His actions were in violation of the Cambodian Criminal Code, the Constitution, UN laws and (his responsibilities under) HRA’98 and PACE.
Despite complaints, no statements have been taken and British authorities, in denial, have just closed ranks.
Jim Gamble, undercover outside the gates of Prey Sar
There has been no response from CEOP and no action has been taken.
The raid in capital Phnom Penh came after ITV Exposure programme investigator Mark Williams-Thomas posed as a paedophile and caught the city’s tuk-tuk taxi drivers offering girls for sex.
He handed over evidence to police who said: “One man has been arrested and hopefully more action will follow thanks to the information we have been given.”
In September, we revealed details of the programme showing footage of British paedophile Reginald Blakeley, 71, with his arms around a young local boy.
Experts told how predators posed as charity workers or teachers to get to children.
Mr Williams-Thomas, who was offered a 10-year-old girl in the investigation, said of the arrest: “This is a brilliant result.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/police-cambodia-seized-suspect-rescued-2715663
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Not the same time frame admittedly, by coincidence Jim Gamble, ex-Chief Executive of the CEOP, only three years earlier was caught doing dodgy dealings in Cambodia - poking around Prey Sar prison without authority. Snipped from a conspiracy source..
The Chief of the Metropolitan Police, Sir Bernard Hogan-Howe, has not responded to Matt Harland’s email complaint.
No further action was taken.
Impunity
It seems that uncontrolled officers, like Jim Gamble, can do whatever they wish in a foreign country.
His actions were in violation of the Cambodian Criminal Code, the Constitution, UN laws and (his responsibilities under) HRA’98 and PACE.
Despite complaints, no statements have been taken and British authorities, in denial, have just closed ranks.
Jim Gamble, undercover outside the gates of Prey SarThere has been no response from CEOP and no action has been taken.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Guest 09.12.16 12:39
Bit like the 'awards' bestowed by Westminster via Buckingham Palace eh?Richard D. Hall wrote:I presume that Mark Williams-Thomas does not have an internet connection. Be wary of media people who win "awards". It's MI5's way of telling people who to respect.
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Roxyroo 09.12.16 18:16
I am stunned that he was blackmailing said undertakers, what on earth does he know that us plebs don't?!
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Re: Mark Williams-Thomas speaks out on the Maddie McCann case - Daily Star, 6 Dec 2016
by Richard IV 09.12.16 21:41
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Re;Mark Williams Thomas.
by willowthewisp 11.12.16 12:06
The Jury Acquitted Mark Williams Thomas of"Blackmail"of the Boss of the funeral Directors,Dignity,but it is the Elephant in the Room moment,that still remains unanswered of Human remains illegal interments?Richard IV wrote:Man Blackmailed Funeral Firm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/2957264.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/southern_counties/2963918.stm
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