Maxine Carr wants 'taxpayers to foot bill for new home and new identity' over fears she could become victim of a vigilante attack

by hogwash 27.12.15 20:17

Maxine Carr wants 'taxpayers to foot bill for new home and new identity' over fears she could become victim of a vigilante attack

Maxine Carr is asking authorities to give her another new identity after reportedly growing paranoid she could become the victim of vigilante attacks.
The 38-year-old, who was a former girlfriend of Soham killer Ian Huntley, is alleged to have begged to be relocated from her £200,000 current seaside home, after worrying neighbours have found out about her past.
It could become the second time taxpayers have footed the bill for her to move after last year she was found to be living close to a primary school.
It is now believed she lives in the same town as Tracey Connolly, the mother of Baby P, who was tortured to death, and Karen Matthews, who faked the kidnap of her daughter Shannon, then nine, in 2008 to claim £50,000 reward money.
A source told the [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: 'She is paranoid she's going to be spotted. She thinks she could be killed.
'She has begged to be located away from the other women and she has asked to be given a new identity.'
Carr served 21 months in jail for providing killer Ian Huntley with a false alibi after he murdered Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, both ten, in 2002.

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by j.rob 29.12.15 1:04

Two gross miscarriages of justice, imo. Gross, in all senses of the word.

by Guest 29.12.15 8:46

@j.rob
I recall you made a similar comment regarding Carr's former partner and convicted child murderer Ian Huntley.

by Amy Dean 29.12.15 12:29

It's a conspiracy theory too far for me to think that Ian Huntley was not rightly convicted.

by Liz Eagles 29.12.15 12:48

Amy Dean wrote:It's a conspiracy theory too far for me to think that Ian Huntley was not rightly convicted.

J.rob loves to stick in outrageous stuff. It cheapens the forum and makes us all look like conspiracy nutcases. Such posts are made with that purpose in mind imo.

by Guest 29.12.15 13:09

Interesting.

David Bristowe was the mobile phone expert called in for the Soham murders.

He was also used by the Met for the Madeleine investigation.

I have a few questions about his expert Soham evidence.

Jessica's phone was logged off the network at 6.46 on the Burwell mast which is 5 miles from Soham. The actual nearest mast was in Soham less than a mile away at the football ground. The above mentioned expert said this was due to "village hotspots".

There are (today at least) a number of masts nearer and in-between Soham and Burwell.

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There are witnesses that the defence could have used at the trial but were never called, in particular a witness who saw a man driving a car haphazardly with two children on board down the A142 (getting closer to Burwell) at about 6.50

Huntley had a crap defence council appointed for him.

I don't know... it's just interesting.

by j.rob 29.12.15 16:43

aquila wrote:
Amy Dean wrote:It's a conspiracy theory too far for me to think that Ian Huntley was not rightly convicted.
J.rob loves to stick in outrageous stuff. It cheapens the forum and makes us all look like conspiracy nutcases. Such posts are made with that purpose in mind imo.

Rather than making derogatory comments why don't you do some research yourself on the convictions Huntley and Carr?

by Liz Eagles 29.12.15 16:54

j.rob wrote:
aquila wrote:
Amy Dean wrote:It's a conspiracy theory too far for me to think that Ian Huntley was not rightly convicted.
J.rob loves to stick in outrageous stuff. It cheapens the forum and makes us all look like conspiracy nutcases. Such posts are made with that purpose in mind imo.

Rather than making derogatory comments why don't you do some research yourself on the convictions Huntley and Carr?

Rather than making ridiculous conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing why don't you just damn the parents of two murdered little girls into thinking there was no justice for their children?

Oh, and both Huntley and Carr had previous form btw.

Sorry, I think your post re these convictions is not only out of order but is sick.

by j.rob 29.12.15 16:58

There are witnesses that the defence could have used at the trial but were never called, in particular a witness who saw a man driving a car haphazardly with two children on board down the A142 (getting closer to Burwell) at about 6.50

Huntley had a crap defence council appointed for him.

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Nothing I have read on the case leads me to believe that justice was done. An early sniffer dog failed to alert to Huntley shortly after he was alleged to have murdered the girls.

by j.rob 29.12.15 17:00

aquila wrote:
j.rob wrote:
aquila wrote:
Amy Dean wrote:It's a conspiracy theory too far for me to think that Ian Huntley was not rightly convicted.
J.rob loves to stick in outrageous stuff. It cheapens the forum and makes us all look like conspiracy nutcases. Such posts are made with that purpose in mind imo.

Rather than making derogatory comments why don't you do some research yourself on the convictions Huntley and Carr?
Rather than making ridiculous conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing why don't you just damn the parents of two murdered little girls into thinking there was no justice for their children?

Oh, and both Huntley and Carr had previous form btw.

Sorry, I think your post re these convictions is not only out of order but is sick.

Where is the evidence that Carr had what you describe as 'previous form'?

by Liz Eagles 29.12.15 17:03

j.rob wrote:
aquila wrote:
j.rob wrote:
aquila wrote:
Amy Dean wrote:It's a conspiracy theory too far for me to think that Ian Huntley was not rightly convicted.
J.rob loves to stick in outrageous stuff. It cheapens the forum and makes us all look like conspiracy nutcases. Such posts are made with that purpose in mind imo.

Rather than making derogatory comments why don't you do some research yourself on the convictions Huntley and Carr?
Rather than making ridiculous conspiracy theories based on absolutely nothing why don't you just damn the parents of two murdered little girls into thinking there was no justice for their children?

Oh, and both Huntley and Carr had previous form btw.

Sorry, I think your post re these convictions is not only out of order but is sick.

Where is the evidence that Carr had what you describe as 'previous form'?

Do your own research. I'm out of this completely asinine topic. Crikey, Lord Longford thought Myra Hindley was an angel.

by Guest 29.12.15 17:21

Not true.

He never doubted her crimes.

He thought she could be redeemed.

by Guest 29.12.15 17:30

Huntley was swiftly taken to Rampton and pumped with drugs because "he didn't understand why he was being questioned".

All bets on veracity of subsequent statements/confessions are off.

RAF Lakenheath where the bodies were found is actually a US Airforce base and had (later convicted) pedophiles on the base at the time.

In the 13 days the girls were missing no questions were asked about US servicemen at the base.

There was a Gulf war about to start.

I always wondered about the evidence that he conveniently incriminated himself with. Made no sense.

The taxi driver Ian Webster saw a car with two girls on board driving in a crazy way on the A142 whilst the driver was swiping away at the girl in the back.

6 witnesses saw Jessica and Holly at the war memorial shortly after they were supposed to be dead.

Witnesses saw a suspicious green car in the village around that time.

I'm not saying he didn't do it, but there's enough here to make people want to turn over a few more stones.

by Amy Dean 29.12.15 17:40

As far as I know, the driver of the car with the children in the back was traced and eliminated.

I have never heard that Holly and Jessica were seen by anyone at the War Memorial.

by Guest 29.12.15 18:00

Amy Dean wrote:As far as I know, the driver of the car with the children in the back was traced and eliminated.

The taxi driver was Ian Webster.

He reported it to the Police who took 3 days to finally get around to interviewing him.

The taxi driver insisted it was 7.01 pm when he saw the car, the Police say they traced one of his passengers (unnamed) and from her mobile phone bill (yep) said it happened earlier and the taxi driver was wrong.

More mobile phone evidence it seems.

I have never heard that Holly and Jessica were seen by anyone at the War Memorial.

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"War memorial
Centre staff believe the girls left the college grounds via College Way, and the next confirmed sighting took place at 1845 in the town centre nearby."

by Amy Dean 29.12.15 18:21

Has it ever been established when the girls died?

by Guest 29.12.15 21:12

j.rob wrote:Two gross miscarriages of justice, imo. Gross, in all senses of the word.

I don't remember hearing Maxine Carr ever claiming it was a miscarriage of justice.

What is the purpose of starting a topic on Maxine Carr, hogwash?

by hogwash 29.12.15 21:27

Ladyinred wrote:
j.rob wrote:Two gross miscarriages of justice, imo. Gross, in all senses of the word.
I don't remember hearing Maxine Carr ever claiming it was a miscarriage of justice.

What is the purpose of starting a topic on Maxine Carr, hogwash?

Because it was a News Topic and this is a News Topic section?

by Guest 29.12.15 21:28

Yes, and do you have an opinion on Maxine Carr?

by hogwash 29.12.15 21:42

Ladyinred wrote:Yes, and do you have an opinion on Maxine Carr?

She says she lives in fear. I expect Holly and Jessica experienced fear before they died.

She went to prison for giving a false alibi for Huntley and now she wants this and that paid for by the taxpayer?

I don't think she should get anything.

What have Holly and Jessica's family got out of all this, except two dead children?

I don't have any sympathy for her.

by Guest 29.12.15 21:55

I agree.

by plebgate 29.12.15 22:47

Has Huntley ever tried to get any possible miscarriage of justice overturned. If not, why not?

by Guest 29.12.15 22:55

plebgate wrote:Has Huntley ever tried to get any possible miscarriage of justice overturned. If not, why not?

He was brain damaged in Rampton.

by Guest 29.12.15 22:58

Huntley was a damaged individual before his imprisonment.

by plebgate 29.12.15 22:59

Don't know enough about it all but hasn't he got family who could lobby for him? There must be legal people who work pro bono who would perhaps be able to advise? What is his current solicitor doing about it all?

by Guest 29.12.15 23:05

plebgate wrote:Don't know enough about it all but hasn't he got family who could lobby for him? There must be legal people who work pro bono who would perhaps be able to advise? What is his current solicitor doing about it all?

Nobody would take this on.

Just look at the reaction here.

Huntley thinks he did it.

But what he thinks after the Rampton neuroleptic drug "treatment" counts for nothing... this man's mind was mashed.

by plebgate 29.12.15 23:14

If there is evidence as stated in this thread then surely it would have been explored?
If his mind has gone then his legal team should be able to apply to the courts for that to be taken into consideration.
Why did she need to give him a false alibi?

by Guest 29.12.15 23:22

plebgate wrote:If there is evidence as stated in this thread then surely it would have been explored?
If his mind has gone then his legal team should be able to apply to the courts for that to be taken into consideration.
Why did she need to give him a false alibi?

He doesn't have a legal team.

He thinks he did it.

His description in court of how he was "helped" to remember what he did over several weeks in Rampton is quite something.

Prompted by Coward (his QC) , Huntley tried to explain further. “I had been trying pretty much everyday to try and remember what had happened on the 4th August. I knew inside that I wasn’t there [in Rampton] for no reason and I knew that something must have happened, but didn’t know what, I had been seeing all kinds of things, for example, I had seen the girls leaving my house or thought I had seen the girls leaving my house and the psychiatrist said that was a coping mechanism and I was just seeing what I wanted to see. it was driving me mad trying to, trying to remember and nothing coming. (inaudible).”

“I say things started coming back after a few weeks, there wasn’t just one day couldn’t remember and the next day I could. It was very slow, a bit like a jig-saw puzzle, first of all I started hearing the voice and the voice was, “You pushed her”, and thought that I must have pushed her down the stairs or something. It was very difficult to piece things together, and it was also difficult at times to know the difference between reality and imagination. I had problems with imagining things and things I wanted to see, and the way I determined the difference was that the reality – if there was emotion attached to it – you could sort of feel; you could feel what you was feeling at the time.”

by Guest 29.12.15 23:29

[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] "Huntley thinks he did it". Perhaps he thinks he did it because he did do it.

by plebgate 29.12.15 23:38

not being an expert, can't see how those two examples show that his mind was mashed by what he went through in Rampton.
He says he did it and anyone capable of doing something like that would have a very mashed mind to begin with.   IMO those examples don't show that he didn't do it and I doubt it would be enough to get another hearing anyway.   Maybe that's why no attempt has been made to get one?

Everyone is entitled to a solicitor and his family would be entitled to make sure he got one.   Couldn't those who have studied the case and the court transcripts lobby on his behalf if they believe he didn't do it or maybe refer it to an organisation who would take up his case?

Was it ever made known why she gave him a false alibi?

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