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You have got to be joking!! Was the Met investigation really based on the McCann's Terms of Reference including no questioning of them or a reconstruction! Have i read that transcript right? Well that explains everything then. Did the Terms of Reference also include a SY police presence in Portugal everytime there was an Amaral court proceedings because that is how it appeared?
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It is difficult to imagine that the Met's finest could possibly 'scale back' the investigation any further.Certainly mentally, they have been in the dead zone for some time now.
Whilst this recent news has been hardly surprising to most on this forum and elsewhere in the country, it still leaves me feeling utter contempt for law enforcement in this country.How can our Police expect to be respected when they have so little self-respect for their work.
They have been told to question only certain aspects of the case and like good little plodders that they are, they appear to have done just that.They have kept off those areas that required to be answered first, namely the actions and subsequent contradictory statements of the McCanns and friends.
Teams of lawyers and the issuing of Injunctions have protected the McCanns.The Police involved in this case have become sheep.Shame on them.
I wonder how people will react when requests are made for the Public to assist the Police in future cases.Will they command people's respect? Do they really deserve any respect?
I hope some will break ranks and reveal what has gone on.But I will not hold my breath.
Whilst this recent news has been hardly surprising to most on this forum and elsewhere in the country, it still leaves me feeling utter contempt for law enforcement in this country.How can our Police expect to be respected when they have so little self-respect for their work.
They have been told to question only certain aspects of the case and like good little plodders that they are, they appear to have done just that.They have kept off those areas that required to be answered first, namely the actions and subsequent contradictory statements of the McCanns and friends.
Teams of lawyers and the issuing of Injunctions have protected the McCanns.The Police involved in this case have become sheep.Shame on them.
I wonder how people will react when requests are made for the Public to assist the Police in future cases.Will they command people's respect? Do they really deserve any respect?
I hope some will break ranks and reveal what has gone on.But I will not hold my breath.
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We have all witnessed a whitewash from start to finish, right in front of our eyes.
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How often do The Met release make public announcements about this case?
Is 4 people sufficient to bring this case to a close, even if they don't have the Mccanns in mind?
Mccanns or no Mccanns, 4 people cant do much for this case, the full team haven't seemingly done much over the years, so unless they're close then they may as well wind it up now.
Maybe the numbers are a red herring, maybe there's still more than 4 people and they want the culprits to think they're cutting back, when they're really close to nabbing them?
Is 4 people sufficient to bring this case to a close, even if they don't have the Mccanns in mind?
Mccanns or no Mccanns, 4 people cant do much for this case, the full team haven't seemingly done much over the years, so unless they're close then they may as well wind it up now.
Maybe the numbers are a red herring, maybe there's still more than 4 people and they want the culprits to think they're cutting back, when they're really close to nabbing them?
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melisande wrote:You have got to be joking!! Was the Met investigation really based on the McCann's Terms of Reference including no questioning of them or a reconstruction! Have i read that transcript right? Well that explains everything then. Did the Terms of Reference also include a SY police presence in Portugal everytime there was an Amaral court proceedings because that is how it appeared?
Mr Bennett called it months ago when he examined the exact wording of the remit of the ivestigation. (Forgive me if other poster did too)
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I can't keep up with this subject - so many threads running on the same theme. Still it matters not, it seems to me that this latest declaration by the Metropolitan Police is but a response to the ever growing demands for an explanation as to why Operation Grange was commissioned to investigate a crime that was committed abroad, over a period of four and half years at a cost in excess of £10m and growing by the day. That's in addition to the involvement by various agents of the UK police between May 2007 and May 2011.
What other purpose can it serve? They have no obligation to offer explanations to the public and as Operation Grange have repeatedly said, they don't intend to give a running commentary on their investigation. Whichever way you look at it, the case of MBM's disappearance is naff all to do with the UK authorities. They messed up big time by sticking their plates of meat in where they weren't wanted - or required. Now they pay the price, in more ways than one, only it's public money they've frittered away pretending to care. Perhaps they didn't reckon on being faced with a Goncalo Amaral, perhaps they thought they could march in with their size 14 hobnail boots and annihilate the sardine munching third world backward rural police. WRONG!
Maybe there's more than one reason why this masquerade has been kept afloat in the UK. Whatever, I'm sure the McCanns are buoyed up by the news!
What other purpose can it serve? They have no obligation to offer explanations to the public and as Operation Grange have repeatedly said, they don't intend to give a running commentary on their investigation. Whichever way you look at it, the case of MBM's disappearance is naff all to do with the UK authorities. They messed up big time by sticking their plates of meat in where they weren't wanted - or required. Now they pay the price, in more ways than one, only it's public money they've frittered away pretending to care. Perhaps they didn't reckon on being faced with a Goncalo Amaral, perhaps they thought they could march in with their size 14 hobnail boots and annihilate the sardine munching third world backward rural police. WRONG!
Maybe there's more than one reason why this masquerade has been kept afloat in the UK. Whatever, I'm sure the McCanns are buoyed up by the news!
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Oh look - an update on the official find Madeleine site..
The scale and difficulty of their task has never been in doubt. We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in PDL leading up to Madeleine’s abduction in 2007.
Given that the review phase of the investigation is essentially completed, we fully understand the reasons why the team is being reduced. We would also like to thank the Home Office for continuing to support the investigation.
Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine, we remain hopeful that she may still be found given the ongoing lines of enquiry.
Gerry and Kate
NB: Excuse if someone's already posted this.
28 October, 2015 - Update
We would like to thank all the staff from Operation Grange for the meticulous and painstaking work that they have carried out over the last four and a half years.The scale and difficulty of their task has never been in doubt. We are reassured that the investigation to find Madeleine has been significantly progressed and the MPS has a much clearer picture of the events in PDL leading up to Madeleine’s abduction in 2007.
Given that the review phase of the investigation is essentially completed, we fully understand the reasons why the team is being reduced. We would also like to thank the Home Office for continuing to support the investigation.
Whilst we do not know what happened to Madeleine, we remain hopeful that she may still be found given the ongoing lines of enquiry.
Gerry and Kate
NB: Excuse if someone's already posted this.
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'EX COPS 'TEAM'?
'LED' by ex DCI AR and ex DCS HC?
Ex DCI AR's and ex DCS HC's 'reward'?
Everyone, and 'his dog', (jailed fraudsters, (£300,000) 'bent' Spanish PI's, (£50/100,000 a MONTH) Grabbit&Leggit , Bell 'PR' agency (£500,000) 'Spokesman' (£28,000pa 'retainer') etc., has had a 'share' of the PUBLIC 'donations' to Madeleine's Fund, LNSU, WHY shouldn't Andy and Hamish, 'cash in' ('lick' of the Madeleine's FUND, 'lolly') as it was 'an extraordinary privilege' for HIM to 'work on' the 'missing' Madeleine McCann 'case' for years?
They 'helpfully' diverted unwanted 'attention' AWAY from the McS, and 'friends', at every 'turn', during their tenure as SIO/IO at OG, imo.
AR even 'cosying up to' and 'flying' around Europe (Holland and Germany) 'with them'! (to 'diss' LONG HAIRED Tannerman, 'replaced' by OG's 'found' LONG HAIRED 'Crecheman', (WRONG PYJAMAS!) To 'promote' SHORT HAIRED Smithman!
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Hmmm
October 30th 2015
"£750K in Fund"................."the SUN".......'Exclusive'
But
March 29th, 2015 .
"The SUN on Sunday".................'Exclusive'.
EXCLUSIVE: Parents pump almost £1million into search fund
Exclusive by Mike Hamilton
The parents or Madeleine McCann plan to plough their own money into the search for their missing daughter if police halt their investigation.
Kate and Gerry McCann both 47, of Rothley Leics, fear public donations have dried up as the search approaches its eighth anniversary.
So they have pumped almost £1 million into a fund for Madeleine that would be running at a loss without their cash.
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£750,000 is NOT 'almost' £1MILLION.
So, 'somewhere' between March 2015 (almost £1 MILLION) and October 2015 (£750,000) 'almost' £250,000 has been er, um, y'know 'abducted,' from 'A' 'search' fund!
October 30th 2015
"£750K in Fund"................."the SUN".......'Exclusive'
But
March 29th, 2015 .
"The SUN on Sunday".................'Exclusive'.
EXCLUSIVE: Parents pump almost £1million into search fund
Exclusive by Mike Hamilton
The parents or Madeleine McCann plan to plough their own money into the search for their missing daughter if police halt their investigation.
Kate and Gerry McCann both 47, of Rothley Leics, fear public donations have dried up as the search approaches its eighth anniversary.
So they have pumped almost £1 million into a fund for Madeleine that would be running at a loss without their cash.
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£750,000 is NOT 'almost' £1MILLION.
So, 'somewhere' between March 2015 (almost £1 MILLION) and October 2015 (£750,000) 'almost' £250,000 has been er, um, y'know 'abducted,' from 'A' 'search' fund!
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At least members of the public may think: "if the McCann's can pump almost £1million of their own money into the Fund, why do they need my fiver?"
If they've got £1million of their own money then that must mean they've got even more somewhere because surely they wouldn't leave themselves short, especially as they must be aware that the McC's are also paying lawyers.
Aaaaah, the poor McCann's fear the public donations have dried up
If I was about to reach into my wallet to make a donation, I'd thank the Sun for stopping me. Plus members of the public must know the McCann's get paid for each story that is published.
If they've got £1million of their own money then that must mean they've got even more somewhere because surely they wouldn't leave themselves short, especially as they must be aware that the McC's are also paying lawyers.
Aaaaah, the poor McCann's fear the public donations have dried up
If I was about to reach into my wallet to make a donation, I'd thank the Sun for stopping me. Plus members of the public must know the McCann's get paid for each story that is published.
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I think it is more than outrageous that the Metropolitan Police gives a platform to the 2 main suspects so they can spout their idiocies.
But hey, that's just me
But hey, that's just me
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melisande wrote:You have got to be joking!! Was the Met investigation really based on the McCann's Terms of Reference including no questioning of them or a reconstruction! Have i read that transcript right? Well that explains everything then. Did the Terms of Reference also include a SY police presence in Portugal everytime there was an Amaral court proceedings because that is how it appeared?
It looks like it, doesn't it?
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lj wrote:I think it is more than outrageous that the Metropolitan Police gives a platform to the 2 main suspects so they can spout their idiocies.
But hey, that's just me
That's just it... they are not suspects to OG.
Anyway, that's a different topic.....
I suspect that this public message has been prompted not to boost the McCanns profile, or anything else underhand, but most likely to calm the general public down after the backlash of the Ben Needham/expenditure/use of police resources attacks of recent weeks.
The investigation is still on-going, they are just publicly declaring "don't worry folks, we'll slow down on the spending, defuse all the anger towards the Met and the McCanns and try and re-build popularity with the tax payer"
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I too think they are not suspect for OG. My post was more for those who still believe OG is just playing a clever game to fool the parents. This was in no way necessary to keep up the idea the parents are not suspects. As a matter of fact the only thing it does is thumbing the nose to the Portuguese in a "see that's how you should treat our favorite couple" way.guest12345 wrote:lj wrote:I think it is more than outrageous that the Metropolitan Police gives a platform to the 2 main suspects so they can spout their idiocies.
But hey, that's just me
That's just it... they are not suspects to OG.
Anyway, that's a different topic.....
I suspect that this public message has been prompted not to boost the McCanns profile, or anything else underhand, but most likely to calm the general public down after the backlash of the Ben Needham/expenditure/use of police resources attacks of recent weeks.
The investigation is still on-going, they are just publicly declaring "don't worry folks, we'll slow down on the spending, defuse all the anger towards the Met and the McCanns and try and re-build popularity with the tax payer"
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"And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment, why would that be our fault?" Gerry
Because she was your child. Your duty as a parent is to protect her. Idiot.
Because she was your child. Your duty as a parent is to protect her. Idiot.
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And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the creche, Gerry, would that be the fault of a Nanny?maebee wrote:"And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment, why would that be our fault?" Gerry
Because she was your child. Your duty as a parent is to protect her. Idiot.
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maebee wrote:"And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment, why would that be our fault?" Gerry
Because she was your child. Your duty as a parent is to protect her. Idiot.
If you turned your back for 5 seconds and a child fell over and banged their head...technically no, not their fault. However, if you neglect your child for hours on end, then yes, entirely your fault Mr.McCann.
All they can do is hold onto the story that the 'window of opportunity' for 'whatever happened' remains very small, as otherwise they are in a whole world of trouble for neglect.
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maebee wrote:
"And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment, why would that be our fault?" says Gerry McCann.
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And, why would leaving, 'diliberately, consciously, willingly and knowingly,' THREE children all under 4 years of age, alone, out of sight, in an unlocked, holiday apartment, for at least 34 minutes, and one of those three, left alone, children, disappear, also NOT be your 'fault', Gerry?
Madeleine IS 'gone' and it is UTTERLY and ENTIRELY, YOUR'S and YOUR WIFE'S 'FAULT'!
NOBODY 'ELSE'S'!
Madeleine is 'missing/disappeared' and,
IT'S ALL, YOUR, OWN,.. FAULT!
You have admitted, on record, that you and your wife would NOT, ('definitely NOT') have left your THREE children, ALONE, in the UK, 'EVER'!
So WHY 'LEAVE ALL YOUR THREE CHILDREN', ALONE, OUT OF SIGHT, 'abroad'?
"And if Madeleine had hurt herself inside the apartment, why would that be our fault?" says Gerry McCann.
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And, why would leaving, 'diliberately, consciously, willingly and knowingly,' THREE children all under 4 years of age, alone, out of sight, in an unlocked, holiday apartment, for at least 34 minutes, and one of those three, left alone, children, disappear, also NOT be your 'fault', Gerry?
Madeleine IS 'gone' and it is UTTERLY and ENTIRELY, YOUR'S and YOUR WIFE'S 'FAULT'!
NOBODY 'ELSE'S'!
Madeleine is 'missing/disappeared' and,
IT'S ALL, YOUR, OWN,.. FAULT!
You have admitted, on record, that you and your wife would NOT, ('definitely NOT') have left your THREE children, ALONE, in the UK, 'EVER'!
So WHY 'LEAVE ALL YOUR THREE CHILDREN', ALONE, OUT OF SIGHT, 'abroad'?
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Still beggars (my) belief that anyone would think it was ok to leave children alone night after night as the Tapas crew say they did.
They put their children into creche during the day time but left them alone in the dark in a strange land, strange apartment and very vulnerable and defenceless at night? whhhhaaaattt. Makes no sense at all to me no matter how many times I have heard it said and it still makes me sick to the guts to hear it.
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They put their children into creche during the day time but left them alone in the dark in a strange land, strange apartment and very vulnerable and defenceless at night? whhhhaaaattt. Makes no sense at all to me no matter how many times I have heard it said and it still makes me sick to the guts to hear it.
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