A Rich Vein of Research

jeanmonroe wrote:Clearly (as far as I know) Amaral discounted any Amaral-McCann connection,
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You mean 'any MURAT-MCCANN connection', surely?

tigger wrote:I'm afraid Richard Hall is a secondary source at best, research is done by going through the original files from which others have drawn their conclusions.

Even when e.g. Assessing the Iliad, a researcher starts with the original untranslated texts.

New information also needs to be evaluated, Dr. Amaral wrote his book in 2008.  The result of the mobile traffic was not available to him.  The book was written to clear his name as he stated in the 2012. Panorama and deals with the evidence available to the PJ at the time.

So not connecting Murat and Gerry  cannot be said to be reliable information.
Iirc in late 2007  it was said the PJ had evidence that Gerry and Murat knew each other  in the Portuguese press. It's in the timelines. Also McCannfiles.

tigger wrote:I'm afraid Richard Hall is a secondary source at best, research is done by going through the original files from which others have drawn their conclusions.

Even when e.g. Assessing the Iliad, a researcher starts with the original untranslated texts.

New information also needs to be evaluated, Dr. Amaral wrote his book in 2008.  The result of the mobile traffic was not available to him.  The book was written to clear his name as he stated in the 2012. Panorama and deals with the evidence available to the PJ at the time.

So not connecting Murat and Gerry  cannot be said to be reliable information.
Iirc in late 2007  it was said the PJ had evidence that Gerry and Murat knew each other  in the Portuguese press. It's in the timelines. Also McCannfiles.

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

tigger wrote:I'm afraid Richard Hall is a secondary source at best, research is done by going through the original files from which others have drawn their conclusions.

Even when e.g. Assessing the Iliad, a researcher starts with the original untranslated texts.

New information also needs to be evaluated, Dr. Amaral wrote his book in 2008.  The result of the mobile traffic was not available to him.  The book was written to clear his name as he stated in the 2012. Panorama and deals with the evidence available to the PJ at the time.

So not connecting Murat and Gerry  cannot be said to be reliable information.
Iirc in late 2007  it was said the PJ had evidence that Gerry and Murat knew each other  in the Portuguese press. It's in the timelines. Also McCannfiles.

Richard Hall also makes a couple of factual errors - for instance, he states that David Miliband was foreign secretary at the time of the disappearance; he was not. However obviously overall the videos are excellent and a great primer for anybody not familiar with the case and a great summary for those who are.

One thing new I did take from them was the bit where he points out the location of the Salsalito guest house. Bear in mind that the official story is that the Eveleighs traveled half way round the World to seek out this particular rural idyll, yet in reality its location is completely unremarkable - they must have passed over quite a few more picturesque spots before settling on that one, which would have been a lengthy and not to say dangerous trek by road from Faro airport at the time. Makes you wonder exactly what kind of bohemian setup they were aiming for - or maybe I've just seen Die Screaming, Marianne too many times (i.e. once).

I was contemplating starting a thread about Gerry's political allegiances - he rubbishes the suggestions that he met Murat through the Labour party (I wonder where they originated) by claiming to be a lifelong Conservative - presumably the only Glaswegian Tory ever then, especially given his upbringing in relative poverty - it sounds a bit like protestethething a bit too much.

I'm guessing Kate=Scouser=Labour?

missbeetle wrote:

Clay Regazzoni wrote:

tigger wrote:I'm afraid Richard Hall is a secondary source at best, research is done by going through the original files from which others have drawn their conclusions.

Even when e.g. Assessing the Iliad, a researcher starts with the original untranslated texts.

New information also needs to be evaluated, Dr. Amaral wrote his book in 2008.  The result of the mobile traffic was not available to him.  The book was written to clear his name as he stated in the 2012. Panorama and deals with the evidence available to the PJ at the time.

So not connecting Murat and Gerry  cannot be said to be reliable information.
Iirc in late 2007  it was said the PJ had evidence that Gerry and Murat knew each other  in the Portuguese press. It's in the timelines. Also McCannfiles.

Richard Hall also makes a couple of factual errors - for instance, he states that David Miliband was foreign secretary at the time of the disappearance; he was not. However obviously overall the videos are excellent and a great primer for anybody not familiar with the case and a great summary for those who are.

One thing new I did take from them was the bit where he points out the location of the Salsalito guest house. Bear in mind that the official story is that the Eveleighs traveled half way round the World to seek out this particular rural idyll, yet in reality its location is completely unremarkable - they must have passed over quite a few more picturesque spots before settling on that one, which would have been a lengthy and not to say dangerous trek by road from Faro airport at the time. Makes you wonder exactly what kind of bohemian setup they were aiming for - or maybe I've just seen Die Screaming, Marianne too many times (i.e. once).

I was contemplating starting a thread about Gerry's political allegiances - he rubbishes the suggestions that he met Murat through the Labour party (I wonder where they originated) by claiming to be a lifelong Conservative - presumably the only Glaswegian Tory ever then, especially given his upbringing in relative poverty - it sounds a bit like protestethething a bit too much.

I'm guessing Kate=Scouser=Labour?

Hi Clay -

I think it was Robert Murat who was the Conservative Party enthusiast here...

I could be wrong, though.

tigger wrote:

I think you're right Miss B., Gerry iirc even took part in fund raising events for the Labour party, perhaps that gave him ideas?