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Post by PeterMac 10.07.14 11:30

Every action and every statement  by the Mccanns and Mitchell must be done for a purpose.
The has to be a reason for what they did

So let me start
Q  Why did Gerry change from entering through the front door using his key, to unlocked patio door.  
A  Because he became aware that Kate and all the others had said that the patio door was unlocked, and it would have been stupid to stick with the first version

Q Why did they say the shutters had been broken / forced
A  Because without that information the relatives would have asked awkward questions about entry and exit

Q  Why did Kate say the curtains were wide open
A  Because it was the original version

Q  Why did Kate change this to curtains tight closed and whooshing ?
A  Because this makes a much better story

Q  Why did they alter the Last Photo ?
A  Because they need to produce some concrete ‘evidence’ that Madeleine was alive and well on 3rd

Q  Why do they claim that it was Dr Amaral’s book which made them aware of the theory that they hid Madeleine in a freezer and moved her later
A  Because if they admit that this was first published in an English newspaper many months BEFORE the book, they would lose a major part of their case.

Q  Why do they keep trying to say the dogs are unreliable
A  Because if they ONCE admit they are reliable, the fact of Madeleine’s death in the apartment becomes a major issue.

Q  Why is that important
A  Because if they admit, or are shown to have known or reasonably suspected that Madeleine was dead the entire “FUND” becomes a fraud on a scale rarely seen before

Q  Why do they keep insisting that Madeline has come to no harm, even though they have said they believe she is in a Hellish Lair, and with Predatory Paed******
A  See previous answer
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Post by canada12 10.07.14 11:33

PeterMac wrote:

Q  Why do they keep insisting that Madeline has come to no harm, even though they have said they believe she is in a Hellish Lair, and with Predatory Paed******
A  See previous answer

It's just occurred to me that IF the McCanns believe Madeleine was abducted by a paedophile, and IF they keep insisting she's come to no harm, THEN it logically follows that Kate and Gerry must believe that paedophiles do not cause harm.

Correct?
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 11:42

canada12 wrote:
PeterMac wrote:

Q  Why do they keep insisting that Madeline has come to no harm, even though they have said they believe she is in a Hellish Lair, and with Predatory Paed******
A  See previous answer

It's just occurred to me that IF the McCanns believe Madeleine was abducted by a paedophile, and IF they keep insisting she's come to no harm, THEN it logically follows that Kate and Gerry must believe that paedophiles do not cause harm.

Correct?
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Post by SixMillionQuid 10.07.14 11:44

canada12 wrote:
PeterMac wrote:

Q  Why do they keep insisting that Madeline has come to no harm, even though they have said they believe she is in a Hellish Lair, and with Predatory Paed******
A  See previous answer

It's just occurred to me that IF the McCanns believe Madeleine was abducted by a paedophile, and IF they keep insisting she's come to no harm, THEN it logically follows that Kate and Gerry must believe that paedophiles do not cause harm.

Correct?
Yes there's a special set of paedophiles that comb blonde girls hair every day without any intention to harm them.

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Post by jeanmonroe 10.07.14 12:03

WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know',  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

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Post by Guest 10.07.14 12:11

jeanmonroe wrote:WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know,  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

 thinking

That begs the question, if not Madeleine, what DID Eddie and Keela smell in the family's apartment?
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 12:19

Q. Why did Kate McCann say she read Gonçalo Amaral's book, "The Truth of the Lie" in 2008?

A. According to 'AnnaEsse', on Facebook, who translated the book, she didn't start doing the translation until Feb 2009.
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 12:23

Could she have arranged for a private translation?
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff 10.07.14 12:26

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Could she have arranged for a private translation?

then she would have said she had the book translated for her, NOT "I read it"
unless she reads Portuguese - or perhaps it was that lone book on the shelf of the book store she managed to get hold of (ahemmm) iom
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 12:30

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Could she have arranged for a private translation?
I thought she said she read it online.
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Post by worriedmum 10.07.14 12:31

Popcorn wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know,  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

 thinking

That begs the question, if not Madeleine, what DID Eddie and Keela smell in the family's apartment?
Oooh, is this a multichoice?

a)Seabass

b)Dirty nappies

c)Leaking bags of shopping

d) Kate's work clothes

e)None of the above, the dogs are'unreliable'....

IS THERE A PRIZE FOR THE CORRECT ANSWER?
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Post by gbwales 10.07.14 12:38

PeterMac wrote:Every action and every statement  by the Mccanns and Mitchell must be done for a purpose.
The has to be a reason for what they did....


Q  Why did they alter the Last Photo ?
A  Because they need to produce some concrete ‘evidence’ that Madeleine was alive and well on 3rd

Absolutely agreed. And as someone on here has noted since, it is also a very good way of placing Gerry at a certain time as well as placing Maddie at a certain time, should Gerry have been elsewhere - a good point which wasn't part of my original thinking about the photo, having assumed it was solely about Madeleine.

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Post by Tony Bennett 10.07.14 12:46

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No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Could she have arranged for a private translation?
I thought she said she read it online.
I believe the 'The Truth About A Lie' was published on 21 July 2008 and available in the shops that very day.

At that time, the former Head of the Media Monitoring Unit, Clarence Mitchell, was still working for the McCanns.

At that time, the McCann Team's PI's were Oakley International, in the persons of Kevin Halligen, Henri Exton and Tim Craig-Harvey. ALL were said by Clarence Mitchell to be top ex-MI5 imteligence agents. We know on the record that Exton was the former head of Covert Intelligence for MI5. The other two, Halligen and Craig-Harvey, both had extensive experience on Ministry of Defence work and other security services assignments.

At that time, the British government had been all over this case from Day One - Ambassador, Consuls, Tony Blair, Gordon Brown, CEOP, Control Risks, Jacqui Smith, Leicestershire Police, and much more. 

An MI5 operative or other civil servant would have been IMO in Portugal the day the book was published, bought it, and rushed back on a Ryanair flight to England, where it would have been rushed to Portuguese translators for an urgent translation. 

I suspect that within days of Amaral's book being published, the powers-that-be (knowing the kind of material Amaral would be likely to cover in his book) would have an English translation in their hands, and that this would have been immediately passed on to Clarence Mitchell and to the rest of the McCann Team, including the McCanns' lawyers.

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Post by Guest 10.07.14 12:57

Tony Bennett wrote:At that time, the former Head of the Media Monitoring Unit, Clarence Mitchell, was still working for the McCanns.

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Post by Daryl Dixon 10.07.14 13:10

jeanmonroe wrote:WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know',  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

 thinking
This scenario has crossed my mind too
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Post by Daryl Dixon 10.07.14 13:16

Popcorn wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know,  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

 thinking

That begs the question, if not Madeleine, what DID Eddie and Keela smell in the family's apartment?

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.
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Post by worriedmum 10.07.14 13:28

Daryl Dixon wrote:
Popcorn wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know,  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

 thinking

That begs the question, if not Madeleine, what DID Eddie and Keela smell in the family's apartment?

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.
You mean 'corroborating 'like blood  being found under the tiles the dogs alerted to? Would that be 'corroborating'?
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 13:29

Daryl Dixon wrote:
Popcorn wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know,  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

 thinking

That begs the question, if not Madeleine, what DID Eddie and Keela smell in the family's apartment?

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.
Eddie indicated cadaverine. But Keela found blood, remember.
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 13:30

Daryl Dixon wrote:
Popcorn wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:WHY does GM 'insist' on telling everyone, at every 'interview', and again in Lisbon on Tuesday, that 'abducted' kids are found years and years later.?

Does he KNOW that Madeleine WILL be er, 'found'?

"They think she's WITH..............."  said GM's sister,  Philomena McCann.

The same PM, that went on a McCann family 'holiday' to Turkey, just weeks after Madeleine was 'abducted'

NOT much 'searching' by her and 'family' members, there then?

ABSOLUTELY SAFE in the 'knowledge' that Madeleine was, and still is, 'safe and well' WITH 'someone the McCanns 'know,  somewhere?

And Madeleine WILL be erm, 'found' UNHARMED?

 thinking

That begs the question, if not Madeleine, what DID Eddie and Keela smell in the family's apartment?

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

Now where have I heard that before.  big grin  Second hand furniture in the car?
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Post by worriedmum 10.07.14 13:31

Second-hand furniture on Cuddlecat?
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 13:34

worriedmum wrote:Second-hand furniture on Cuddlecat?
And second-hand clothes of Kate's?
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff 10.07.14 13:35

What
Makes you wonder if MBM might make an appearance if they win £££
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Post by Woofer 10.07.14 13:53

Dont Make Me Laff wrote:What
Makes you wonder if MBM might make an appearance if they win £££
 
It would be like `the second coming` or `the resurrection` - a face known to the whole civilised world was lost and now is found - she`d be made into a saint I betcha - and my goodness, what a fortune could be made on the back of that.

PS. Or would it be the 3rd coming - how many comings have we had so far?
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Post by ultimaThule 10.07.14 14:11

Daryl Dixon wrote:
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Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

It is probable that the bedroom wardrobes were installed when the apartment was constructed and, as far as can be ascertained, no lumberjacks died when the trees were being felled and no carpenters expired while making the units.
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Post by worriedmum 10.07.14 14:17

ultimaThule wrote:
Daryl Dixon wrote:
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Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

It is probable that the bedroom wardrobes were installed when the apartment was constructed and, as far as can be ascertained, no lumberjacks died when the trees were being felled and no carpenters expired while making the units.  
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Post by ShuBob 10.07.14 14:18

ultimaThule wrote:
Daryl Dixon wrote:
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Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

It is probable that the bedroom wardrobes were installed when the apartment was constructed and, as far as can be ascertained, no lumberjacks died when the trees were being felled and no carpenters expired while making the units.  

I feel bad for finding your post funny uT  big grin 

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Post by canada12 10.07.14 14:55

Daryl Dixon wrote:

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

Are you an expert in cadaver dogs?
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Post by Guest 10.07.14 15:00

canada12 wrote:
Daryl Dixon wrote:

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

Are you an expert in cadaver dogs?

He/she wrote this too on July 2nd on another thread lol4 
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It seems to me that Eddie and Keela's indications in 5A and on McCanns clothes have been in some way invalidated or discredited. I can see no other reason why the police would appear to openly ignore the dogs findings.





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Post by canada12 10.07.14 15:03

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canada12 wrote:
Daryl Dixon wrote:

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

Are you an expert in cadaver dogs?

He/she wrote this too on July 2nd on another thread lol4 

It seems to me that Eddie and Keela's indications in 5A and on McCanns clothes have been in some way invalidated or discredited. I can see no other reason why the police would appear to openly ignore the dogs findings.

I was wondering if DD had been coaching Gerry for his court appearance. lol4
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canada12 wrote:
candyfloss wrote:
canada12 wrote:
Daryl Dixon wrote:

Without corroborating evidence it is impossible to say that Eddie and Keela were indicating to Madeleine in the apartment. It has been said that no-one else died in the apartment, that may well be so but we don't know where everything from the apartment came from ie new furniture or secondhand for example.

Are you an expert in cadaver dogs?

He/she wrote this too on July 2nd on another thread lol4 

It seems to me that Eddie and Keela's indications in 5A and on McCanns clothes have been in some way invalidated or discredited. I can see no other reason why the police would appear to openly ignore the dogs findings.

I was wondering if DD had been coaching Gerry for his court appearance. lol4

He doesn't seem to like the doggies  big grin  Still being used by police all the time, they seem to think they are brilliant at what they do, and they trust them. Mrs 


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