CRIMEWATCH ON BBC ***Part 1 DISCUSSION****

Lance De Boils wrote:Imagine that, hey? You "invent" an abductor and the Met then go and bloody track him down and eliminate him!  

Searcher wrote:I have to take the Daily Mail comments as hilarious!  I wonder what they are up to (have not checked the site so am taking it that the quotes are a real piece of reporting on trolls!).  They are clever enough to do it like that, and also the implication is, for me, an underlying covert message to readers:  "Keep analysing .."    

MRNOODLES wrote:

Lance De Boils wrote:Imagine that, hey? You "invent" an abductor and the Met then go and bloody track him down and eliminate him!  

GM, 'You just made that up about eliminating night creche man'.

SY, 'Oh yeah, what makes you say that?'

GM, 'Cos we made him up in the first place...... oh shit!'

loopzdaloop wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Police say one reading of Madeleine McCann's disappearance in Portugal in 2007 is that it has "all the hallmarks of a pre-planned abduction".

Ah these were the exact words, thank you for posting that link.
I believe the above is a very good disclaimer that Redwood made whilst leading the Mccann's nicely down the garden path.

susible wrote:

candyfloss wrote:

susible wrote:

annemab wrote:In most of the trailers I saw yesterday and today, there was a little girl dressed like Maddie in the 'last' photo (the pool one) either playing tennis or collecting tennis balls - but this was not shown on the programme? or did I blink and miss it?

No, it wasn't on the programme, also not on the programme was Kate's proclamation of "we've done nothing wrong"  changed to "we have not committed a crime"  probably due to the backlash of the public...Yeah you did do something wrong"

But you are right, all of these scenes were touted at the start as being part of the programme....Hmmm what's changed I wonder

Yes you are right susible, they CHANGED tonights programme from the trailer from we're not the one's who've done something wrong........

Now why would they change that Candyfloss?  Admittedly my daughter had to restrain me in my seat when I heard that, How can they change a trailer for a crimewatch special in that way..thought this was pre-recorded..how many versions do they have?

Lots of questions for the BBC!

Lance De Boils wrote:Imagine that, hey? You "invent" an abductor and the Met then go and bloody track him down and eliminate him!  

littlepixie wrote:If you KNEW you had fabricated seeing a man carrying off Maddie (Jane Tanner) and now the Police have told you they have found the non-existent man how would you feel?

If you KNEW a witness had seen you disposing of your child and now the Police were looking for that man and had asked you on to Crimewatch to help find him, how would you feel?

Ribisl wrote:I'd like to think SY and Andy Redwood withheld certain elements in this 'reconstruction' because the main purpose of the programme was to draw people's attention to Smiths' sighting and to try to identify the man in question. This is not the McCann agenda at all. They are trying to find out where Madeleine was taken - dead or alive.

Some of the things intentionally omitted in Crimewatch but hugely significant in this investigation imo:
David Payne
Eddie and Keela
Cleaners

Mrs McCann has written before that she was plagued by depression and suicidal thoughts after the abduction of Madeleine.
In a book chronicling her daughter’s disappearance and the toll it took on her family, she wrote that she had an overwhelming urge to swim out to her death at sea.
She wrote: “I had an overwhelming urge to swim out across the ocean, as hard and as fast as I could; to swim and swim and swim until I was so far out and so exhausted I could just allow the water to pull me under and relieve me of this torment.
“I wasn't keeping that desire to myself, either. I was shouting it out to anyone who happened to be in the room. Both this urge and the expression of it were, I suppose, an outlet for the crucifying anguish.
"Somehow, inflicting physical pain on myself seemed to be the only possible way of escaping my internal pain,” she wrote in the book published two years ago. [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

MRNOODLES wrote:

Lance De Boils wrote:Imagine that, hey? You "invent" an abductor and the Met then go and bloody track him down and eliminate him!  

GM, 'You just made that up about eliminating night creche man'.

SY, 'Oh yeah, what makes you say that?'

GM, 'Cos we made him up in the first place...... oh shit!'

Cristobell wrote:For anyone interested in the body language of DCI Redwood, note, he visibly flinches when the word 'charity' is used.  The question was about the charity collectors in PDL prior to the arrival of the world's best parents, but I picked up that 'charity' was a sensitive word.

russiandoll wrote:I suggest we forget the media and concentrate on what was said /not said on CW. What we saw / did not see.

  We did not see any attempt by Redwood to demonstrate how and when there was an opportunity for an abductor to strike.

  He was absolutely clear imo that the info he wants is on the man seen by the Smiths.

  He wants closure, 6 years has been long enough.
 
  He was not alongside the parents, for some reason.

  He made no mention of finding Maddie and getting her home iirc.

 I don't believe for a minute that a senior detective considering a missing child after 6 years thinks there is any chance that the child is alive.

 He does seem determined to establish what happened to her imo.

 I still maintain my opinion that if this were a cover up of some huge establishment secret there would have silence years ago.

  I don't believe that every detective in this case lacks a conscience.

Newintown wrote:

loopzdaloop wrote:

Tony Bennett wrote:

Police say one reading of Madeleine McCann's disappearance in Portugal in 2007 is that it has "all the hallmarks of a pre-planned abduction".

Ah these were the exact words, thank you for posting that link.
I believe the above is a very good disclaimer that Redwood made whilst leading the Mccann's nicely down the garden path.

I don't remember hearing about the man GM said could have been hiding in the apartment while he (GM) went to the loo, or did I miss it?

juliet wrote:russiandoll:
All I saw was a man scrabbling to keep his masters happy.

Glossing over how this night creche person came forward to be eliminated
Underplaying how this huge shift from Tanner seeing abduction to Martin Smith seeing bloody Gerry!!!

Willo wrote:Did not see the programme but skyped England not long after.
The first response I got was "See, I told you they were innocent"

When I argued the fact all I got was "If the UK police are backing them up, they must be innocent I blame the Portuguese police for not doing a better a job". I think the McCann's will be happy with the outcome. I can't see it being a trap. Too convoluted and not really required. 
  
The whitewash has worked. UK mainstream still have not a clue. And I might add the UK police have really gone to a very dark place, to protect who or what I wonder. What else have they /will they cover up?

On the bright side there are a probably more than a few VIP's with more relaxed sphincters, drinking to the fact that the upper establishment can carry on looking after their own and preying on others.

Keep Calm Carry On.........pfffftt