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Post by monkey mind 12.07.12 21:28

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russiandoll wrote: One thing worth bearing in mind perhaps, the motto always seems to be look at the right hand while the left hand is occupied but no attention paid to it. Kate might be the focus because the real players in this charade are all male. Kate writes the book, Kate appearing alone on tv and radio and in the newspapers. She is a stooge now as far as I am concerned, the front for what is the truth behind the scenes.
Yes, always misdirection. So let us take the principle you outline above and apply it to the following scenario.....

On being made arguido, during official questioning by the PJ, Gerry McCann appears happy to answer all questions put to him, on the other hand, Kate McCann adheres to her right of silence and refuses to answer 48 questions put to her.

If we apply your principle above, what does it tell us now..?

Is she a stooge 'now'. Or has she always been?

Good question!

Reminds me of Charles Dickens's gangs: one pouting Nell to distract the Toffs with het looks & attire, one specialist-snatch to pick their pockets while they're looking the other way; some other gangmembers supposed to create a diversion and/or dispose of the spoils after the snatch (so that nobody can finger the specialist who must appear to be emptyhanded when caught by the Yard) and some shady character(s) hidden in an alleyway waiting to have the stolen purses delivered at his doorstep.

Come to think of it: Charles Dickens would have had a field day dreaming up this Tapas-cum-kids on vacation tragedy, wouldn't he?

And what happened to Fagan? Any resemblance to some media mogul we shall leave unnamed for the moment?
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Post by Guest 16.07.12 11:31

Just seen this tweet from spudgun, he has to be joking right????

Mike Spudgun@spudgun01

I hear Lorraine Kelly OBE is seeking to campaign for an OBE for Kate McCann. Her appointment at Missing People should seal it #McCanns





Plus Lorraine Kelly was also on the panel of judges that voted KM one of Britains most 20 inspirational women last year.Shocked

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccann-named-as-one-of-the-most-156848
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Post by monkey mind 16.07.12 11:38

Wouldn't surprise me in the least considering Kelly is over at MP also, prob key in getting K the *ambassadorship* in the first place. just goes to prove that intelligence and common sense are not necessary qualities to become a tv face. I can suggest what are but have no wish to offend anyone.

It's a helter skelter of a rabbit hole and a very mucky one at that!
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Post by Nina 16.07.12 11:45

It's all Kate isn't it. her two books, her new position with MissingPeople, and now talk of an OBE. She is in the news, alone, except linked to the name of some vip or other on an almost daily basis. Where's Gerry in all this? Not so much as a ' I am very proud of Kate'

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Post by winjoy 16.07.12 13:34

candyfloss wrote:Just seen this tweet from spudgun, he has to be joking right????

Mike Spudgun@spudgun01

I hear Lorraine Kelly OBE is seeking to campaign for an OBE for Kate McCann. Her appointment at Missing People should seal it #McCanns





Plus Lorraine Kelly was also on the panel of judges that voted KM one of Britains most 20 inspirational women last year.Shocked

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccann-named-as-one-of-the-most-156848

I saw this coming a mile off - it has to be the next step for KM. It makes me utterly sick. The MBE, OBE and CBE are awarded, I believe, depending on the level of salary...(the lowest salary gets an MBE)...so that being the case I am only astonished that the woman is not being put forward (if indeed she is) for a CBE, what with all the money she is earning right left and centre Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people  - Page 9 195540 ...

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Post by puzzled 16.07.12 14:40

candyfloss wrote:Just seen this tweet from spudgun, he has to be joking right????

Mike Spudgun@spudgun01

I hear Lorraine Kelly OBE is seeking to campaign for an OBE for Kate McCann. Her appointment at Missing People should seal it #McCanns

Now I am truly convinced that the world has gone mad!




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Post by sharonl 16.07.12 20:21

The Chief Executive of Missing People has been supporting the McCanns for a while

Gloria Hunniford and Fiona Phillips join McCanns at fundraiser to mark '1,000 days of agony' since Maddie vanished
By Daily Mail Reporter
UPDATED: 09:57, 28 January 2010


Kate McCann tonight said she was "trying to move forward" as a charity event was held to mark the 1,000th day since her daughter Madeleine went missing.
Mrs McCann and her husband Gerry were joined by celebrity supporters at the £150-a-head fundraising dinner, raffle and auction at Kensington Roof Gardens in west London.
Speaking on the steps of the venue she said: 'We are hoping for a positive night.

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Fundraiser: (l-r) Gerry McCann, Martin Houghton-Brown, Chief Executive Missing People, Kate McCann and Francis Herbert, Secretary General, Missing Children Europe at a Madeleine McCann fundraiser held at the Kensington Roof Gardens

Charitable celebrities: Gloria Hunniford and Fiona Phillips were among the famous guests lending their support to the McCann's fundraising event
Asked about her feelings on the sad anniversary, she added: 'It's obviously difficult but we are trying to move forward to help Madeleine and all missing children.'
Madeleine was nearly four when she disappeared from her family's holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in southern Portugal on May 3 2007 while her parents dined with friends nearby.
Comedian Jack Dee, television presenters Fiona Phillips and Gloria Hunniford and actor Peter Bowles were among the guests.

Madeleine McCann went missing in May 2007, 1,000 days ago today
The couple will mark the sad anniversary by organising the launch of 1,000 glowing paper lanterns into the night sky in Leicestershire.

The McCanns said it sometimes felt wrong that they were coping with life without Madeleine - but added that otherwise there would be no search for the little girl.

In a poignant statement they said: 'Today marks 1,000 days since Madeleine was taken from us. It's hard to even say the number.

'We remember the first few days after Madeleine was taken, watching the clock and counting every hour. Now we've reached 1,000 days.

'It's difficult sometimes to understand how we've been able to keep going and survive without Madeleine, especially since nothing has changed since that terrifying first night.

'Madeleine is still missing. Sometimes it even feels wrong to be coping.

'And yet if we weren't, there would be no search and no campaign to find Madeleine and that just doesn't bear thinking about.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1246595/Kate-Gerry-McCann-host-star-studded-fundraiser-mark-1-000th-day-daughter-Maddie-went-missing.html#ixzz20oa5kbH1
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Post by sharonl 16.07.12 20:31


Missing People charity faces battle for survival

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/news/1036943/Missing-People-charity-faces-battle-survival/?DCMP=ILC-SEARCH

By John Plummer, Third Sector Online, 25 October 2010

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Missing People chief executive Martin Houghton-Brown

Labour MP urges government not to cut half a million pounds from the charity

Missing People could be left fighting for survival if the government presses ahead with plans to withdraw funding of £500,000, its chief executive Martin Houghton-Brown has warned.

Labour MP Ann Coffey will urge ministers to help the charity in an adjournment speech in Parliament today on the future of services for missing people.

Houghton-Brown said that if the government did not listen there could be ‘catastrophic’ consequences for the charity, which has 45 staff and 75 volunteers.

The charity, which was known as the National Missing Persons Helpline until 2007, faces the loss of a £350,000 grant from the National Policing Improvement Agency, which was included on the Cabinet list of quangos for abolition.

A £150,000 strategic grant from the Department for Education for the charity’s runaways helpline is also due to expire.

Houghton-Brown said government support was vital for ‘pump priming’ other sources of funding and that if the funding was removed, the police would have to pay more to deliver the same service.

"If other funders pull out as a consequence of the government doing so, it could be catastrophic," he said.

Coffey, who is chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Runaway and Missing Children and Adults, said: "Rather than remove the missing person’s infrastructure, we must maintain investment and underpin it with new legislation, which both supports existing services and fills in much-needed gaps."
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Post by tigger 16.07.12 20:49

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candyfloss wrote:Just seen this tweet from spudgun, he has to be joking right????

Mike Spudgun@spudgun01

I hear Lorraine Kelly OBE is seeking to campaign for an OBE for Kate McCann. Her appointment at Missing People should seal it #McCanns

Now I am truly convinced that the world has gone mad!
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As long as they give one to Karen Matthews as well, I don't mind. it's a sort of Government diploma for incompetence.

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Post by Spaniel 16.07.12 20:56

sharonl wrote:
Missing People charity faces battle for survival

http://www.thirdsector.co.uk/news/1036943/Missing-People-charity-faces-battle-survival/?DCMP=ILC-SEARCH

By John Plummer, Third Sector Online, 25 October 2010

Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people  - Page 9 E7A49ADE-0A98-D2CF-477E7A9CC81B5CFE

Missing People chief executive Martin Houghton-Brown

Labour MP urges government not to cut half a million pounds from the charity

Missing People could be left fighting for survival if the government presses ahead with plans to withdraw funding of £500,000, its chief executive Martin Houghton-Brown has warned.

Labour MP Ann Coffey will urge ministers to help the charity in an adjournment speech in Parliament today on the future of services for missing people.

Houghton-Brown said that if the government did not listen there could be ‘catastrophic’ consequences for the charity, which has 45 staff and 75 volunteers.

The charity, which was known as the National Missing Persons Helpline until 2007, faces the loss of a £350,000 grant from the National Policing Improvement Agency, which was included on the Cabinet list of quangos for abolition.

A £150,000 strategic grant from the Department for Education for the charity’s runaways helpline is also due to expire.

Houghton-Brown said government support was vital for ‘pump priming’ other sources of funding and that if the funding was removed, the police would have to pay more to deliver the same service.

"If other funders pull out as a consequence of the government doing so, it could be catastrophic," he said.

Coffey, who is chair of the All-Party Parliamentary Group for Runaway and Missing Children and Adults, said: "Rather than remove the missing person’s infrastructure, we must maintain investment and underpin it with new legislation, which both supports existing services and fills in much-needed gaps."
More about MP but needs updating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_People
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Post by puzzled 16.07.12 21:36

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As long as they give one to Karen Matthews as well, I don't mind. it's a sort of Government diploma for incompetence.

Actually, now I come to think of it, an OBE is surely not enough! Perhaps she should be made a Dame. Or no, a title of nobility and a seat in the House of Lords. Yes, that and only that, I think, would be a suitable reward for all Kate's contributions to child welfare!

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Post by Liz Eagles 16.07.12 22:15

puzzled wrote:
tigger wrote:
As long as they give one to Karen Matthews as well, I don't mind. it's a sort of Government diploma for incompetence.

Actually, now I come to think of it, an OBE is surely not enough! Perhaps she should be made a Dame. Or no, a title of nobility and a seat in the House of Lords. Yes, that and only that, I think, would be a suitable reward for all Kate's contributions to child welfare!

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If KM ever gets an OBE surely the acronym would mean....Other B*ggers Efforts.
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Post by pauline 16.07.12 22:22

Spaniel wrote:
More about MP but needs updating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_People[/quote]


Per Wikipedia this long established charity was relaunched/rebranded in May 2007 as Missing People.

What else happened in may 2007?

No prizes for the correct answer!
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Post by winjoy 17.07.12 2:14

winjoy wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Just seen this tweet from spudgun, he has to be joking right????

Mike Spudgun@spudgun01

I hear Lorraine Kelly OBE is seeking to campaign for an OBE for Kate McCann. Her appointment at Missing People should seal it #McCanns





Plus Lorraine Kelly was also on the panel of judges that voted KM one of Britains most 20 inspirational women last year.Shocked

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccann-named-as-one-of-the-most-156848

I saw this coming a mile off - it has to be the next step for KM. It makes me utterly sick. The MBE, OBE and CBE are awarded, I believe, depending on the level of salary...(the lowest salary gets an MBE)...so that being the case I am only astonished that the woman is not being put forward (if indeed she is) for a CBE, what with all the money she is earning right left and centre Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people  - Page 9 195540 ...

Seems I am wrong about the awards being linked to salary scales...(perhaps they once were, but no longer?) Anyway, if you want to make your stomach churn then take a look at the following website:

http://www.awardsintelligence.co.uk/featuresdetail.asp?page=1408&gclid=CKWN8dDBn7ECFcgntAodShHeZQ
where amongst other things it is stated:
"Did you know that
anyone can be nominated for a Queen’s honour such as an OBE, MBE or Knighthood
for achievements in their field of work or community?
A Queen’s honour is considered to be the most prestigious personal award an
individual can receive and can prove to be a life changing experience for many
recipients."




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Post by Willo 17.07.12 3:00

"Keep your mouth shut Kate and I'll try and swing you an OBE". Anon.

Outrageous Babysitting Example.

Oh, Bloody 'ell.

Odd But Expected.

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Post by tigger 17.07.12 5:48

pauline wrote:
Spaniel wrote:
More about MP but needs updating.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_People


Per Wikipedia this long established charity was relaunched/rebranded in May 2007 as Missing People.

What else happened in may 2007?

No prizes for the correct answer![/quote]



Around that time:
Amanda Hart changed her website (looking for missing children as a psychic). Title with Amber...
The IFLG was formed just over a month before May 07.
Missing people rebranded May 07.

I still think we should be looking at 2006 when ideas were set in motion which all seem to culminate in 2007.

I'd also like to think what Esther Rantzen thinks about the Child Line which is never mentioned in any of the above context. Why not?

In 2006 the European proposal for closer cooperation - the EU equivalent of Amber Alert was dicussed in the EU parliament.

Pact: Lady Meyer was no longer in Washington, but Gerry had a close friend who worked there.

Ceops: what is the situation there around that time?

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Post by tigger 17.07.12 6:03

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tigger wrote:
As long as they give one to Karen Matthews as well, I don't mind. it's a sort of Government diploma for incompetence.

Actually, now I come to think of it, an OBE is surely not enough! Perhaps she should be made a Dame. Or no, a title of nobility and a seat in the House of Lords. Yes, that and only that, I think, would be a suitable reward for all Kate's contributions to child welfare!

smilie

Here are a few more suggestions:

I think we should propose a few equally deserving candidates:

Karen Matthews

John Venables

Both for highlighting the importance of looking after children.

Jimmy Saville for .....(too late, already had one)

Lorraine Kelly for tirelessly absolving parents of neglected children

Jim Gamble for his support of neglectful parents

David Payne for his complete re-interpretation of the English language (semantics)

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Post by Guest 17.07.12 8:57

Hi tigger,

Lorraine Kelly already has an OBE received this year..............

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-07-03/lorraine-kelly-receives-her-obe-from-the-queen/
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Post by russiandoll 17.07.12 8:59

Lorraine Kelly for tirelessly absolving parents of neglected children

sorry to tell you Tigger, LK got her OBE recently.

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Post by Guest 17.07.12 9:09

We can but hope that, if this latest piece of nonsense becomes reality, there will be a torrent of earlier recipients of the OBE returning their awards in disgust, as happened in the 1960s when the Beatles were given MBEs.
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Post by jozi 17.07.12 9:44

Jean wrote:We can but hope that, if this latest piece of nonsense becomes reality, there will be a torrent of earlier recipients of the OBE returning their awards in disgust, as happened in the 1960s when the Beatles were given MBEs.

Nothing else for it, we can all start by sending letters to the Queen showing how disgusted we are at the mere thought of it. clapping
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Post by tuom 17.07.12 9:57

winjoy wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Just seen this tweet from spudgun, he has to be joking right????

Mike Spudgun@spudgun01

I hear Lorraine Kelly OBE is seeking to campaign for an OBE for Kate McCann. Her appointment at Missing People should seal it #McCanns





Plus Lorraine Kelly was also on the panel of judges that voted KM one of Britains most 20 inspirational women last year.Shocked

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccann-named-as-one-of-the-most-156848

I saw this coming a mile off - it has to be the next step for KM. It makes me utterly sick. The MBE, OBE and CBE are awarded, I believe, depending on the level of salary...(the lowest salary gets an MBE)...so that being the case I am only astonished that the woman is not being put forward (if indeed she is) for a CBE, what with all the money she is earning right left and centre Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people  - Page 9 195540 ...



I know nothing about these CBO's etc , what exactly do they mean and do they get Paid ????Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people  - Page 9 172348
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Post by tigger 17.07.12 10:05

russiandoll wrote: Lorraine Kelly for tirelessly absolving parents of neglected children

sorry to tell you Tigger, LK got her OBE recently.

What the hell, make her a Dame! :bad:

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I won't have a problem with that Tigger as long as it's a pantomime dame!
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Post by winjoy 17.07.12 11:18

tuom wrote:
winjoy wrote:
candyfloss wrote:Just seen this tweet from spudgun, he has to be joking right????

Mike Spudgun@spudgun01

I hear Lorraine Kelly OBE is seeking to campaign for an OBE for Kate McCann. Her appointment at Missing People should seal it #McCanns





Plus Lorraine Kelly was also on the panel of judges that voted KM one of Britains most 20 inspirational women last year.Shocked

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-mccann-named-as-one-of-the-most-156848

I saw this coming a mile off - it has to be the next step for KM. It makes me utterly sick. The MBE, OBE and CBE are awarded, I believe, depending on the level of salary...(the lowest salary gets an MBE)...so that being the case I am only astonished that the woman is not being put forward (if indeed she is) for a CBE, what with all the money she is earning right left and centre Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people  - Page 9 195540 ...



I know nothing about these CBO's etc , what exactly do they mean and do they get Paid ????Kate McCann becomes ambassador for missing people  - Page 9 172348

They don't get paid tuom, but you can see more about the honours system here:

http://www.awardsintelligence.co.uk/featuresdetail.asp?page=1408&gclid=CKWN8dDBn7ECFcgntAodShHeZQ

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