Forensic linguistics -

juliet wrote:It is in Fiona 's rogatory. Near the end of the second interview I think.  She describes Kate pondering whether it is best to lock the three year old in or leave the door open so she can come and find them in the Tapas bar.

juliet wrote:It is quite hard to find. It's after the description of the meal and Kate rushing back etc. Interesting stuff sbout David Psyne seeing the "angelic" children.

Hicks wrote:Don't know where to put this, hope here is ok.

Sorry if this has been said before.

I was watching the -Madeleine was here- video. Something jumped out at me. Listen to Kate explain about the 10.00pm check. This is at the beginning, She says." And to be honest,  I might have been tempted to turn around then but I just noticed that 'THE DOOR, THE BEDROOM DOOR WHERE THE THREE CHILDREN WERE SLEEPING WAS OPEN MUCH FURTHER THAN WE LEFT IT".

So Kate is telling us that NOBODY went to the McCann's apartment to check the children since they had left at 8.30. By Kate's own admission she has told us that Gerry McCann did not go and do his check otherwise he would have been responsible for the new position of the door or perhaps Russell O'Brien who was the last person 'supposedly' to have been in the apartment.
  

Kate you really didn't think that one through did you!

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Hicks wrote:No you are not wrong, it was Mathew Oldfield, my mistake.
You can see Kate pause for a moment just before she mentions the door, as if she's trying to get the story right in her head before she opens her mouth. The whole story is a lie as poor Madeleine had met her fate well before that time imo.

PeterMac wrote:

Hicks wrote:No you are not wrong, it was Mathew Oldfield, my mistake.
You can see Kate pause for a moment just before she mentions the door, as if she's trying to get the story right in her head before she opens her mouth. The whole story is a lie as poor Madeleine had met her fate well before that time imo.

Quite.
In one short sentence she trashes Gerry's story AND Oldfield's.   She specifically indicates that both are lying.
And even more interestingly - or not - as with so many of the contradictions there has never been an attempt to explain which of the many "versions" is the correct one.

She also includes this nonsense in Exhibit KH 1  after a long paragraph about what Gerry and MO had done when they went - about which she can have no idea at all, obviously.
"At 10pm I went back to the apartment myself. I entered the sitting room via the patio doors, as Gerry and Matt had done, and stood there, listening, for a few seconds. All was silent. Then I noticed that the door to the children’s bedroom was open quite wide, not how we had left it."

Listen, Kate / Janet  you s****  b****, if two people have visited the apartment and entered the room and checked the children  - - WHY would you expect to find the door at the 'same angle', particularly when you then go on to invent a mini-micro climate (nano-climate ?)  which produced sudden gusts of Force 5 confined to your apartment and to nowhere else along the entire Atlantic Coast capable of slamming the door, even though you were holding onto it, and then whooshing 2.3 m long full length curtains, even through they were tucked firmly down between the unmade bed and the wall,  and behind the wicker chair, and tucked themselves back down behind the bed and the wall, and behind the wicker chair before the photographers came.
You are trying too hard.  And you have failed.

PeterMac wrote:

Hicks wrote:No you are not wrong, it was Mathew Oldfield, my mistake.
You can see Kate pause for a moment just before she mentions the door, as if she's trying to get the story right in her head before she opens her mouth. The whole story is a lie as poor Madeleine had met her fate well before that time imo.

Quite.
In one short sentence she trashes Gerry's story AND Oldfield's.   She specifically indicates that both are lying.
And even more interestingly - or not - as with so many of the contradictions there has never been an attempt to explain which of the many "versions" is the correct one.

She also includes this nonsense in Exhibit KH 1  after a long paragraph about what Gerry and MO had done when they went - about which she can have no idea at all, obviously.
"At 10pm I went back to the apartment myself. I entered the sitting room via the patio doors, as Gerry and Matt had done, and stood there, listening, for a few seconds. All was silent. Then I noticed that the door to the children’s bedroom was open quite wide, not how we had left it."

Listen, Kate / Janet  you s****  b****, if two people have visited the apartment and entered the room and checked the children  - - WHY would you expect to find the door at the 'same angle', particularly when you then go on to invent a mini-micro climate (nano-climate ?)  which produced sudden gusts of Force 5 confined to your apartment and to nowhere else along the entire Atlantic Coast capable of slamming the door, even though you were holding onto it, and then whooshing 2.3 m long full length curtains, even through they were tucked firmly down between the unmade bed and the wall,  and behind the wicker chair, and tucked themselves back down behind the bed and the wall, and behind the wicker chair before the photographers came.
You are trying too hard.  And you have failed.

PeterMac wrote:

Hicks wrote:No you are not wrong, it was Mathew Oldfield, my mistake.
You can see Kate pause for a moment just before she mentions the door, as if she's trying to get the story right in her head before she opens her mouth. The whole story is a lie as poor Madeleine had met her fate well before that time imo.

Quite.
In one short sentence she trashes Gerry's story AND Oldfield's.   She specifically indicates that both are lying.
And even more interestingly - or not - as with so many of the contradictions there has never been an attempt to explain which of the many "versions" is the correct one.

She also includes this nonsense in Exhibit KH 1  after a long paragraph about what Gerry and MO had done when they went - about which she can have no idea at all, obviously.
"At 10pm I went back to the apartment myself. I entered the sitting room via the patio doors, as Gerry and Matt had done, and stood there, listening, for a few seconds. All was silent. Then I noticed that the door to the children’s bedroom was open quite wide, not how we had left it."

Listen, Kate / Janet  you s****  b****, if two people have visited the apartment and entered the room and checked the children  - - WHY would you expect to find the door at the 'same angle', particularly when you then go on to invent a mini-micro climate (nano-climate ?)  which produced sudden gusts of Force 5 confined to your apartment and to nowhere else along the entire Atlantic Coast capable of slamming the door, even though you were holding onto it, and then whooshing 2.3 m long full length curtains, even through they were tucked firmly down between the unmade bed and the wall,  and behind the wicker chair, and tucked themselves back down behind the bed and the wall, and behind the wicker chair before the photographers came.
You are trying too hard.  And you have failed.

tigger wrote:

But it's standard procedure in horror films to create an expectation of unnamed horror. The creak of a door which should not be open, a strengthening wind and the !!!!!!!'  terror revealed, accompanied by music reaching a crescendo, then the scream...


One of the standard  methods to create suspense as taught in all media courses. Talking of media 'experts' ...  

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It could be a (failed) attempt at humour or he was tired after a long journey with fractious children.

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:It could be a (failed) attempt at humour or he was tired after a long journey with fractious children.

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:The video was released by the McCanns and was taken by David Payne as he is the only person in the group not appearing in it.

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