Re: Latest from PeterMac's FREE e-book: CHAPTER 63 SMITH-GERRY-MAN SCRUTINISED

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 14:39

Honesty wrote:Does Madeleine have to have died on the 3rd May for GM to be Smithman?

No, but she could hardly have died before May 2 to 3 night.

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 14:40

AnneCGuedes wrote:
Honesty wrote:Does Madeleine have to have died on the 3rd May for GM to be Smithman?

No, but she could hardly have died before May 2 to 3 night.

I just sent this and no post-edition at all available..

by Justice for Maddie 21.09.24 14:41

Shash T wrote:If we assume M died on 3rd while they were all at dinner, assume she's dead an hour or two before she's discovered. Then assume Gerry decides to wander around the resort looking for the ideal hiding place with a dead child in his arms. Wouldn't there be a load of flies following and landing on M?

Are you serious?

by Justice for Maddie 21.09.24 14:53

Oldfield was the last one who "checked" the children at 9:25 PM right? How long did the check last and wasn't Gerry "watching Football" on one evening?

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD.htm

by Shash T 21.09.24 14:57

Nina wrote:
Shash T wrote:If we assume M died on 3rd while they were all at dinner, assume she's dead an hour or two before she's discovered. Then assume Gerry decides to wander around the resort looking for the ideal hiding place with a dead child in his arms. Wouldn't there be a load of flies following and landing on M?
No there wouldn't be any flies following.

Thank you Nina for your kind reply.
It seems from others replies that I'm a thicko.

by crusader 21.09.24 15:04

Not a thicko at all Shash T, but it was a crass thing to say.

by **PeterMac** 21.09.24 15:19

Justice for Maddie wrote:Oldfield was the last one who "checked" the children at 9:25 PM right? How long did the check last and wasn't Gerry "watching Football" on one evening?

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD.htm

Gerry was watching the Football on Wednesday 2nd

Latest from PeterMac's FREE e-book: CHAPTER 63 SMITH-GERRY-MAN SCRUTINISED - Page 14 Footba10

The Score 3:0 is crucial to some witnesses recollections. And that the English Team won

It is part of the evidence Bernt S. uses when homing in on late evening Wednesday 2nd into Thursday 3rd early hours of the morning.

by Cake Lover 21.09.24 15:25

With zero knowledge of football, can't you hear results and scorelines in pubs and restaurants?

by Justice for Maddie 21.09.24 15:43

Cake Lover wrote:With zero knowledge of football, can't you hear results and scorelines in pubs and restaurants?

Good question. Does the Tapas bar has TV to watch Football?
Do we know how long Oldfield's last check at 9:25 pm last and are we sure that Gerry was on the table between 9:00-10:00 pm (he checked the kids around 9:00 pm right?)

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 15:45

Justice for Maddie wrote:Oldfield was the last one who "checked" the children at 9:25 PM right? How long did the check last and wasn't Gerry "watching Football" on one evening?

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD.htm

We have reasons to doubt that MO checked the MC kids around 9:30, but he said he did without adding how long it last !

by crusader 21.09.24 15:45

Milan won 3 nil to Man U, or am I reading it wrong?

by Cake Lover 21.09.24 15:48

I mean (my post #333) that you can be anywhere to know the results, not necessarily where you claim to be.

by Justice for Maddie 21.09.24 15:56

Sorry , Does the Tapas bar have...

by Justice for Maddie 21.09.24 16:01

That's the question. Was he really "watching TV" or what did he do (disposal of the body?).

by Honesty 21.09.24 17:20

Justice for Maddie wrote:Oldfield was the last one who "checked" the children at 9:25 PM right? How long did the check last and wasn't Gerry "watching Football" on one evening?

https://mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD.htm

Can Oldfield be believed?

Where and when was GM "watching football"?

by Honesty 21.09.24 18:17

Shash T wrote:
Nina wrote:
Shash T wrote:If we assume M died on 3rd while they were all at dinner, assume she's dead an hour or two before she's discovered. Then assume Gerry decides to wander around the resort looking for the ideal hiding place with a dead child in his arms. Wouldn't there be a load of flies following and landing on M?
No there wouldn't be any flies following.
Thank you Nina for your kind reply.
It seems from others replies that I'm a thicko.

I'm sure no one thought that, Shash T, and, although I cannot speak for everyone, of course, we all realised that you were just asking an honest question.

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 18:39

Honesty wrote:Where and when was GM "watching football"?

We don't know whether G watched the "footy" as K said in order, on May 3, to explain that G's check was longer that it used to (supposing he intended to dispose of the body at his 9:5 check). There was football on May 3 (Sevilla/Osasuna (UEFA).

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 18:40

Justice for Maddie wrote:Sorry , Does the Tapas bar have...

Not the style of this bar, but I don't know.

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 19:02

Bluebagthepirate wrote:
"The Crimewatch programme, as with the Channel 4 Documentary in 2009, rehearsed the McCanns’ account of events.

During the programme, the BBC mentioned that Martin Smith had once thought that the man he had seen that night was Gerry McCann, but said he had now ‘changed his mind’. "

Crimewatch 14 October 2013 : DCI Redwood invalidates G's cast-iron alibi, the only clue to the kidnapping. The MCs were now counting on the PJ's final report stating that, when K had raised the alarm, several witnesses had located G at the Tapas table. There is no reason to doubt this at 9.50pm. But the alibi of having been at dinner table is not of the same quality as that provided by the ‘Tannerman’ report. Did the author of the false information to the BBC (about Martin S having changed his mind) suspect that G's alibi was not indestructible?

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 19:02

https://villagemagazine.ie/maddie-did-the-bbc-bend-the-truth/

by Justice for Maddie 21.09.24 19:11

Justice for Maddie wrote:
Cake Lover wrote:With zero knowledge of football, can't you hear results and scorelines in pubs and restaurants?

Good question. Does the Tapas bar has TV to watch Football?
Do we know how long Oldfield's last check at 9:25 pm last and are we sure that Gerry was on the table between 9:00-10:00 pm (he checked the kids around 9:00 pm right?)

Sorry, ...last check at 9:25 pm lasted

Why is there no correction button?

by Honesty 21.09.24 19:30

AnneCGuedes wrote:
Honesty wrote:Where and when was GM "watching football"?

We don't know whether G watched the "footy" as K said in order, on May 3, to explain that G's check was longer that it used to (supposing he intended to dispose of the body at his 9:5 check). There was football on May 3 (Sevilla/Osasuna (UEFA).

I wouldn't know but I think it has been said many times by others that GM would hardly watch a football match between Sevilla/Osasuba?

by Honesty 21.09.24 19:32

Honesty wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:
Honesty wrote:Where and when was GM "watching football"?

We don't know whether G watched the "footy" as K said in order, on May 3, to explain that G's check was longer that it used to (supposing he intended to dispose of the body at his 9:5 check). There was football on May 3 (Sevilla/Osasuna (UEFA).
I wouldn't know but I think it has been said many times by others that GM would hardly watch a football match between Sevilla/Osasuba?

Very sorry, couldn't edit: Osasuna.

by AnneCGuedes 21.09.24 19:45

Honesty wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:
Honesty wrote:Where and when was GM "watching football"?

We don't know whether G watched the "footy" as K said in order, on May 3, to explain that G's check was longer that it used to (supposing he intended to dispose of the body at his 9:5 check). There was football on May 3 (Sevilla/Osasuna (UEFA).
I wouldn't know but I think it has been said many times by others that GM would hardly watch a football match between Sevilla/Osasuba?

According to Jane, K had suspected that G was watching the "footie", though nobody had noted that G was slow to come back. Nobody knows more than that.

by silly 21.09.24 22:18

Bluebagthepirate wrote:
crusader wrote:I don't believe M Smith said any such thing.
I checked.

It was on Panorama... the BBC later apologised and corrected it.

So the BBC got that wrong.

But anyway, why would he co-operate with the McCann investigators if he thought it was Gerry (actually he wasn't sure even by his own words).

By his own words he is 20 to 40% sure he is wrong.

And of course his kids disagreed with him 100%.

Richard Bilton lied on Panorama that The Smith family had changed their mind about the Smith sighting.
BBC Panarama was the the one time Gold Standard for investigative journalism in the UK and never made elementary mistakes .
We now know the BBC is/was controlled by MI5/MI6.
The failed attempt at propaganda by Bilton leads me to believe that the McCanns are being protected because of their Gaspar type connection to a high level politician.
John Reid , Tony Blair and Gordon Brown were in charge at he time.

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