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by Ladyinred 21.09.24 22:35

How do we know the BBC is controlled by M15 and M16?

by Silentscope Yesterday at 0:07

They have been responsible for Vetting all BBC Employees for years. Even Orwell wrote about it in his Diaries.

by silly Yesterday at 1:59

Ladyinred wrote:How do we know the BBC is controlled by M15 and M16?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62259179

by **Jill Havern** Yesterday at 6:19

Silentscope wrote:They have been responsible for Vetting all BBC Employees for years. Even Orwell wrote about it in his Diaries.

Vetting people like Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris etc doesn't say much for their competence.

by Ladyinred Yesterday at 6:32

silly wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:How do we know the BBC is controlled by M15 and M16?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62259179

The link is a BBC report of a speech given by MI6 chief where he discusses Russia, China and Ukraine etc. The does not mention the BBC!

by Bluebagthepirate Yesterday at 7:55

Jill Havern wrote:
Silentscope wrote:They have been responsible for Vetting all BBC Employees for years. Even Orwell wrote about it in his Diaries.
Vetting people like Jimmy Saville, Rolf Harris etc doesn't say much for their competence.

Compromised people are perfect for the establishment.

by **PeterMac** Yesterday at 8:01

Exactly. Gays, fornicators, and perverts can all be 'manipulated' or in plain English – Blackmailed
which is why MI5 was so sensitive about having homosexuals within their own ranks.
Philby, McClean, Blunt . . .
All a security risk. As they turned out to be.

Very similar to the "control' the Chief Whip holds over MPs
The Whips are the PM's Stasi,

Which brings us neatly back to
"Who is the Fat Controller ?" in the McCann case
Who is telling the press what to publish and what not to.
Who tells Clarke what to invent ?
Who told Guzmaroli the details to publish in the women's magazine ?

And are they being paid, or threatened. Or both ?

by Cake Lover Yesterday at 10:25

Bluebag wrote 'Compromised people are great for the establishment'. If they can legalise - or decriminalise - incest and paedophilia, there will be nobody to blackmail, and the perverts will be able to carry on with no fear. Two birds with one stone.

by silly Yesterday at 11:17

Ladyinred wrote:
silly wrote:
Ladyinred wrote:How do we know the BBC is controlled by M15 and M16?
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-62259179

The link is a BBC report of a speech given by MI6 chief where he discusses Russia, China and Ukraine etc. The does not mention the BBC!

If you can't see that the linked article is BBC/MI6 propaganda then I can't help you , no one can.

by Ladyinred Yesterday at 11:23

The report might be propaganda, then maybe not. Whatever, it doesn't prove that the BBC is controlled by MI6, which you asserted.

I think you're being silly, silly.

I'm beyond help

by crusader Yesterday at 11:26

by Keelafreeze Yesterday at 14:59

MI6 quite clearly control what information comes out on the bbc.
If they don’t then Iraq must have had weapons of mass destruction oui? thinking

by Jojo1 Yesterday at 15:55

I was reading some blogs by the late Ben Salmon who was a member here. In his Blogs were links to various other articles which mentioned MI5/6 and the BBC etc. I can't do links to put here but they were rather intriguing. Ben was an amazing guy who uncovered much. I will try to find them for another read though.

by Bluebagthepirate Today at 8:19

Any looked at the bar receipts at Kelly's?

There are three separate ones for 8.00(euros).

The same round of drinks I think. The timings are interesting.

Last one at 20.16

by Bluebagthepirate Today at 8:31

Sorry... 22.16.

I can't edit and I do see clear forum cookies.

by Bluebagthepirate Today at 8:31

by crusader Today at 8:32

What are you thinking Bluebag?

by crusader Today at 8:33

No forum cookies on mine and no edit thingy.

by Bluebagthepirate Today at 8:40

crusader wrote:What are you thinking Bluebag?

Dad and Peter having ones for the road.

Nobody else having one because they just came out the restaurant.

There is a last one for 4.00(euros?)

That's just one of them having another for the road.

All the other items on the receipt roll are random.

by Bluebagthepirate Today at 9:01

The only problem with my theory is that 4 euros for a drink seems pretty steep in 2007.

Doubles? I think it's shorts as the first two are minutes apart.

by Bluebagthepirate Today at 9:08

by **PeterMac** Today at 9:19

But that it not what the statements say !

They say they 'consumed SOME drinks" (Martin) OR "had a FEW drinks" (Peter)
SOME and a FEW is more than one each, and usually more than a "couple" or even "two or three"
More likely "quick one" then "the other half" then "the same again" and then "one for the road"

Martin and son Peter say there were there for an HOUR, they just get the start time wrong
The idea of Wife/ Mother and daughter-in-law and five children sitting silently seething whilst watching Grandfather and father/uncle having one drink, without having one themselves is 'not in accordance with any family dynamic I have over experienced or observed'

These are real people in the real world.
The till roll does not identify the customers, but it must be wrong to select items before 2150 and ignore the later ones
QUOTE from Up Thead

"Any looked at the bar receipts at Kelly's?
There are three separate ones for 8.00(euros).
The same round of drinks I think. The timings are interesting.
Last one at 20.16. (edited to 2216)

Yes. I have

2216. 8 euros

2224. 4

2228. 3

2247. 11

Preceded by

2146. 8

2149. 8

8 euros is not enough for a family of 9 !

This fails as proof of anything very much. and certainly not that they all left at 2155

by Bluebagthepirate Today at 9:28

Irish family dynamics Peter.

The kids had their fill at the restaurant and 2 or more adults having ones for the road.

Their drinks must be on the roll somewhere.

TV screens for entertainment.

Some of the other items may be for the kids women but the 8 and 4 euros ones strike me as a round.

If it's doubles then the 4 euros might be two singles.

What I saying is that his could be evidence they were there much later than they said.

by crusader Today at 9:42

I'm not convinced, the bar bill for 9-39 at 13-75 seems more logical to me.
Why would they go into a bar and keep jumping up and down all the time ordering drinks when they could just order once?
A few drinks or some drinks is just that, there were a few of them ordering.
It doesn't mean they had more than one each in my opinion.

by Cake Lover Today at 9:50

Perhaps they didn't drink much, because some of them were going home the next day, but they made the last evening together last as long as they reasonably could?

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