Re: Bernt Stellander interview

by AnneCGuedes 12.08.24 0:18

crusader wrote:From Gerry's 10th May PJ statement.

On Wednesday night, 2 May 2007, as well as he and his wife, he thinks that DP also went to his apartment to confirm that his children were well, not having reported to him any abnormal situation with the children. On this day he and KATE had already left the rear door closed, but not locked, to allow entrance by their colleagues to check on the children.

This is a lie, it was denied by DP.

by AnneCGuedes 12.08.24 0:21

crusader wrote:From Jane Tanners 10th May statement.

[size=30]eanwhile, MO went to check his children and those of GM and KH. According to what he said, he saw the twins but he did not see MBM probably because he did not enter the bedroom. As he heard no noise he left presupposing that all was well, returning to the restaurant. MO told her that ROB had stayed in the bedroom.[/size]

Do you believe that ? He never did check those kids but suddenly when M is about to be declared missing, he enters the flat... but doesn't know whether she was there or not.

by Paddingtom 12.08.24 7:13

AnneCGuedes wrote:
The "friends" were NOT checking on each other's children, that's a media invention. Had they been friends, they likely would have done that, but they were only acqaintances (except for the Paynes), the kids hardly knew them.

As a fairly new recruit to this story Im still learning. Ive tried to find answers to questions as I go along but so far I have been unable to answer "What with all the doctors" . Obviously the tapas lot are mostly doctors although only Mccanns and Paynes are friends, rest are acquaintances. Then weve got Totman, a doctor and I vaguely remeber hearing about some othe doctors, although dont quote me on that.
Its like a doctors convention.
Do we know why we sent so many doctors to PdL?

by crusader 12.08.24 8:13

I'm not saying I believe anything that the McCann's or their friends have said in any statement, but there they are and they are all we have.
As for reading the statements, it happens to be one of things I do most.

by crusader 12.08.24 8:49

AnneCGuedes wrote:
crusader wrote:From Gerry's 10th May PJ statement.

On Wednesday night, 2 May 2007, as well as he and his wife, he thinks that DP also went to his apartment to confirm that his children were well, not having reported to him any abnormal situation with the children. On this day he and KATE had already left the rear door closed, but not locked, to allow entrance by their colleagues to check on the children.

This is a lie, it was denied by DP.

Please can you show where D Payne denied what Gerry said in his 10th may statement is a lie, I must have missed that.

by crusader 12.08.24 8:59

Got it,
[size=30]In answer to our question, the interviewee states that during all the meals, he never went to his apartment or to any of the group's apartments, because he has an, "intercom," and the signal carries from the apartment to the restaurant. The other members of the group went, randomly, every 20 minutes, to their apartments to make sure their respective children were asleep.[/size]

[size=30]It's not contradicting Gerry because he said that on the 4th May, [/size][size=30]Gerry's statement was made on the 10th.[/size]

[size=30]In my opinion, that is not a denial.[/size]

by AnneCGuedes 12.08.24 11:42

crusader wrote:
AnneCGuedes wrote:
crusader wrote:From Gerry's 10th May PJ statement.

On Wednesday night, 2 May 2007, as well as he and his wife, he thinks that DP also went to his apartment to confirm that his children were well, not having reported to him any abnormal situation with the children. On this day he and KATE had already left the rear door closed, but not locked, to allow entrance by their colleagues to check on the children.

This is a lie, it was denied by DP.

Please can you show where D Payne denied what Gerry said in his 10th may statement is a lie, I must have missed that.

I didn't say that DP said it was a lie. I said that G lied, because DP stated this on May 4th :
"the interviewee states that during all the meals, he never went to his apartment or to any of the group's apartments because he has an "intercom" and the signal carries from the apartment to the restaurant. The other members of the group went, randomly, every 20 minutes, to their apartments to make sure their respective children were asleep."

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE.htm

by crusader 12.08.24 12:27

There is no need to direct me to the PJ files, it's where I get my information from, see my post's above.

You are saying Gerry Lied, although at that point, 10th May, Gerry could only have known what D Payne said in his statement if he, D Payne had told him, therefore Gerry deliberately telling a lie in his 10th May statement.
If Gerry didn't know what D Payne had said in his 4th May statement, (I doubt that), why would that point be so important?
Is it a lie by Gerry, or a contradiction for some reason.

by **Jill Havern** 15.08.24 4:10

by pinkgladioli 15.08.24 7:43

Happy as you know it - is it possible the song choice being chosen “Happy as you know it” could have been used to check that if sedatives were used they were working?

by Cake Lover 15.08.24 8:04

Are you thinking that the clapping has to be co-ordinated with the song, and that if the children started to lose the rhythm, it would demonstrate more clearly that they were becoming drowsy?

by pinkgladioli 15.08.24 8:33

Hi yes, you’ve described it better what I was trying to say, one thing is for sure KM looked extremely uncomfortable when she talks about it in the video clip, now it could be because she knows the true reason for the singing of the song or it could be because she knew she was fabricating the event

by Cake Lover 15.08.24 8:51

It would be good method of checking the sedation, imo.

by pinkgladioli 15.08.24 9:41

Yes I agree my opinion too!

by Cake Lover 15.08.24 9:47

It's also quite sinister.

by pinkgladioli 15.08.24 10:09

Yes thinking about this scenario gives a shiver down your spine! Over the last few days I’ve watched quite a few video clips of the duo, I’m sure on one of them possibly a Lorraine Kelly interview she says words to the effect, You don’t expect someone to take a child from your bed, I’m going to have to find it again I don’t think I imagined it or misheard

by Amy Dean 15.08.24 10:47

It sounds like something Kate would say, blaming everyone but herself. Didn't she wish that someone had told her earlier that the Algarve was awash with paedos?!

by Cake Lover 15.08.24 11:06

I don't believe that she doesn't know everywhere is awash with paedophiles - her own profession is. Beaches full of children in swimming costumes are one of the main attractions. But yes, everybody else is to blame. Including Madeleine with her powerful vocal range.

by MikaelaB 15.08.24 11:22

I agree with you pinkgladioli that Kate looks very odd or uncomfortable when she's talking about the song, Happy and You Know It. Why does she even have to say the name of the song? Is it to make a lie seem plausible ie she's a wonderful caring mum and she's attentive to the night routine when really with a clapping song she's revving Maddie up before bed. Maybe the singing and clapping is to see how the sedation is working as you and cakelover say.
Don't know whether this will post correctly/correct place. I'm not great at this.

by Amy Dean 15.08.24 11:36

I agree with what various statement analysts say that giving too much trivial information as to what supposedly happened before a major event such as a reported disappearance, is a red flag.

Let's say that my son wasn't in his bed in the morning (thinking of a current case, Sebastian Rogers) and I reported him missing. All I would say about the night before was that it was uneventful, no need to say what a perfect day it had been, doing this, that and the other; that is irrelevant.

by pinkgladioli 15.08.24 12:12

Apologies I’ve now found the video clip I referred to on a previous post I made this morning just to say it wasn’t and interview they done with Lorraine Kelly it was one made to BBC breakfast the presenters were Bill & Sian
at 2.35 minutes KM says the following below-

Is it right for someone to go into your apartment and take your child out YOUR bed.

I note she doesn’t say Madeleine was taken from her own bed,

anyone interested the clip is on YouTube title is Kate & Gerry McCann BBC Breakfast May 1st 2008 part 1 of 2

by Silentscope 15.08.24 12:53

2:34 Timestamp.

by crusader 15.08.24 13:29

Notice how they play the "cant say too much" card because of judicial secrecy when they get difficult questions.

by Cake Lover 15.08.24 13:55

Richard Branson and other wealthy business offered an enormous reward for information about the 'abduction'. So did a newspaper, I forget which. I don't know if the McCanns mentioned either of these. But nobody claimed them. Fancy that!

by pinkgladioli 15.08.24 14:38

Part 2 iof this video is interesting too, I would say extremely defensive! (Sorry my technical skills are pretty basic when it comes to uploading)

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