Re: Bearing False Witness

by **Verdi** 03.09.20 22:07

I stand corrected - it's a while since I watched the production.

It is my intention to watch again, I've recently re-subscribed to Netflix so will be having a closer look in due course.

If it's not too much trouble, can you please tell me which episode and a rough idea of the timing you refer to so I know what I'm looking for?

by Guest 03.09.20 22:41

Verdi wrote:If it's not too much trouble, can you please tell me which episode and a rough idea of the timing you refer to so I know what I'm looking for?

If you're looking for segments featuring Mr. Amaral (discounting archived footage), he appears in every episode except the last one.

In the first episode, he appears around the 20-minute mark, if I'm not mistaken.

It's also been a while since I watched the documentary (last time I viewed it was last year).

by Guest 03.09.20 22:59

Transcription 2:

'I was working that night at something called 'Drop-in Creche'. We had one child left and... errm, the mother came in, picked up the child and just mentioned 'Hang on a minute, I've just seen a guy who's run past me, who seemed really distressed and I recognised him as being a guest at Mark Warner, but he was shouting out something like 'Maddie' or 'Abbey' or 'Gabby'.'

Transcription 3:

'I went straight to the apartment. I sort of walked in, did a quick scan around and been told 'No, no. She's not here, she's not here'.

It's all in the name

I do not believe Charlotte Pennington was where she said she was at this time. She gives an account of a mother collecting her child and informing her that she had just seen a distressed guy calling out Maddie, Abbey, or Gabby. The McCann's did not refer to Madeleine as Maddie so unlikely that any of their friends would use this informal version either which in turn makes it even less likely that it would be called out aloud in the hope she would respond. Neither would the creche workers know her as Maddie, Abbey, or Gabby to be certain enough to immediately dash off to the relevant apartment, assuming a) CP knew which apartment the McCann's occupied and b) she was of course immediately free to do so at that precise moment in time thanks to the sudden and convenient 'on cue' relief of the 'only remaining' child's' mother. All very improbable to me. Maybe this qualifies for the Shaggy Dog story thread? thinking

by **Verdi** 04.09.20 0:25

The unforgettable Nigel Moore who spent so many hours documenting just about every aspect of Madeleine McCann's disappearance. In particular the abysmal media coverage from day one. I, for one, rue the day Nigel threw in the towel and ended his oh so valued website, the mccannfiles - my bible for many a year.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16543-a-closer-look-at-charlotte-pennington#404720

Thanks for everything Nigel hat

.

BTW .... super avatar pic miffy8 - what/where is it?

by **Verdi** 04.09.20 0:45

pauloalexandre wrote:
Verdi wrote:If it's not too much trouble, can you please tell me which episode and a rough idea of the timing you refer to so I know what I'm looking for?
If you're looking for segments featuring Mr. Amaral (discounting archived footage), he appears in every episode except the last one.

In the first episode, he appears around the 20-minute mark, if I'm not mistaken.

It's also been a while since I watched the documentary (last time I viewed it was last year).

Yes, I recall Snr Amaral being featured throughout the documentary but I don't recall any footage (interview) that indicates his willing participation.

Still, as I said, I will be watching the whole thing again in due course.

by **Verdi** 03.03.21 15:23

Sorry about the presentation of this comic opera, Master Clarke of The Olive Press

doesn't seem to like his rag being copied over. You'd think he'd be grateful for every reader he can get, perhaps it's more lucrative as click bait..

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2012/05/03/i-saw-maddie-at-costa-del-sol-beach-restaurant/

Please bear in mind that Jon Clarke of The Olive Press is a staunch supporter of the McCann faction, or appears to be. Whatever, he doesn't miss any opportunity to put his mug forward.

Stop Press !!!

No problem, if you don't dare dip the toes in the shallow waters of the Costa del Sol, I've found the farticle stored for posterity right here on CMOMM .... of course, where else?

I saw Madeleine McCann playing outside Costa del Sol beach restaurant
MAY 3, 2012 •
• EXPAT PENSIONER ROSE JOHNSON (BELOW) BELIEVES SHE SAW AN EIGHT-YEAR-OLD MADDIE (INSET - AS SHE MIGHT LOOK TODAY) PLAYING OUTSIDE MERENDERO RESTAURANT ON PENONCILLO BEACH (BOTTOM) BETWEEN NERJA AND TORROX LAST SUMMER
EXCLUSIVE by Eloise Horsfield
A BRITISH expat has come forward believing to have seen Maddie McCann in Nerja – exactly five years since her disappearance.
Rose Johnson, 70, reckons she saw the missing girl playing on Penoncillo beach – between Torrox and Nerja – last summer.
The Frigiliana-based pensioner hopes her sighting will help Portuguese police who sensationally sent a request to their Spanish counterparts to investigate other sightings in Nerja just a fortnight ago.
The former cleaner, who has lived in the area for a decade, has spoken out after reading an article in the Olive Press, last issue.
She revealed how she had made the sighting while eating at Merendero restaurant with her partner in August last year.
“We were quite taken aback when we saw this Maddie look-a-like walk off the beach and join a table of what we could only describe as a party of Spanish people or similar,” said Johnson.
“They were completely different to her. The whole family was dark skinned, whereas she had fair hair and pale skin and obviously was northern European.
“It was very, very strange. She was about eight and seemed really airy-fairy, and in a world of her own.
“She hardly spent any time with the family and didn’t sit with the people she was with at all.”
Johnson later saw something equally startling.
“As we crossed the road to our car, just up the road was a dark blue or grey car, a people carrier or similar – possibly a Citroen Picasso or Renault Scenic – with a Portuguese number plate,” said Johnson, originally from Buckinghamshire.
“We, like a lot of people, and especially her parents, want her found and any information we can give we would like to think it could help.”
Regretting that she did not take a picture with her mobile phone, she added: “We hope people don’t think we are jumping on the bandwagon, looking for publicity. This is simply about Maddie and trying to find her.”
Her sighting is remarkably similar to another Olive Press reader Yvonne Tunnicliffe who insisted she was ‘100 per cent sure’ she saw Maddie while out on a shopping trip in Alhaurin two years ago.
She described seeing a blonde girl who looked just like her dad Gerry McCann with a man, who appeared to be ‘a gypsy’, in 2009.
It has been confirmed that Spain’s Specialist and Violent Crime Unit (UDEV) is investigating the Nerja connection.
Last night, the Olive Press passed over Rose Johnson’s contact details to police to help in their search.
Meanwhile Portuguese police have refused to reopen the case after British police revealed there were 195 new leads, despite Detective Chief Inspector Andy Redwood saying he ‘genuinely’ believes she could be alive.
In addition, a former senior Met officer has said Maddie was ‘most likely abducted by a couple’ who ‘wanted her as part of a family’.
Having spent a week on the Algarve, Ian Horrocks, is convinced a paedophile would have found many easier places to snatch a child.
He also believes the original investigation was flawed because police were looking for a dead person and got it into their minds that the parents were to blame.
Meanwhile the Met Police have issued a photofit of how Maddie might look today.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4845-olive-press-again-3-may#106732

by Guest 03.03.21 21:34

Having spent a week on the Algarve, Ian Horrocks is convinced a paedophile would have found many easier places to snatch a child.

So many easier places when one so inclined could take their pick from the multitude of beaches, water parks, or shopping malls, not to mention outdoor playparks and eateries. Why then would anyone take a huge gamble on happening upon a child hidden from view in a closed and shuttered apartment on a holiday complex Baffling, that!

by **Verdi** 03.03.21 23:26

miffy8 wrote:So many easier places when one so inclined could take their pick from the multitude of beaches, water parks, or shopping malls, not to mention outdoor playparks and eateries. Why then would anyone take a huge gamble on happening upon a child hidden from view in a closed and shuttered apartment on a holiday complex Baffling, that!

Funny you should say that, I've said much the same thing on numerous occasions here on CMOMM.

#makesyerfonkdunnit

by wallad 10.03.21 1:34

How could Charlotte Pennington "sort of walked" into the apartment? She either did or she didn't. It reminds me of one of the male holiday companions who "checked" on the McCann children and said in a statement that the twins were "sort of breathing".

by Silentscope 10.03.21 9:16

I wonder if the phrase ‘sort of’ is a regular speech pattern of one particular ‘Arguido’?

Who briefed all the ‘Team McCann’ members on what they should say.

That is why perhaps the same phrases appear from different sources?

Because of the main source?

by **Verdi** 10.03.21 12:39

wallad wrote:How could Charlotte Pennington "sort of walked" into the apartment? She either did or she didn't. It reminds me of one of the male holiday companions who "checked" on the McCann children and said in a statement that the twins were "sort of breathing".

Nigel Moore salute

of mccannfiles.com (now hosted by pamalam at gerrymccannsblog) had a brilliant delve into the life and times of Charlotte Pennington.

For those who have never read or those who might be a bit rusty on the finer detail. Read on ....

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16384-nigel-moore-a-closer-look-at-charlotte-pennington#402450

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15551p25-bearing-false-witness#395352

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15551p25-bearing-false-witness#402449

by Guest 11.03.21 0:06

Having just re-read the above, it raised the following:

5A was potentially empty on the night of 3rd May which could explain why Matt Oldfield said he never went into the bedroom. I always found this to be an odd admission. Why would you bother to go to do a check and then not actually do it? Unless of course, you were just fulfilling your acting role as per the script and leaking the truth!

Why would CP divulge that the twins were not in the room if she was involved?

The twins were possibly elsewhere to enable the body of Madeleine to be removed from the apartment unseen. Then sedated and put back in their beds so they would appear to be sleeping peacefully for the rest of the evening's events.

The night creche register would surely have verified and identified the timing and name of the last person's child to be collected.

by **Verdi** 11.03.21 15:42

Why would CP divulge that the twins were not in the room if she was involved?

The point is, if you read through all the documentation relative to Charlottte Pennington, media reports included, it is plain to see that her stories are contradictory, in a word - false!

I strongly suspect she was rewarded handsomely for her contribution.

At best a fantasist, at worst a nasty bit of work trying to make a buck off the back of a little child.

Either way not helpful.

by **Verdi** 06.04.21 16:55

Jane Tanner Sighting - Mark 1

[circa. May 2007]

roflmao

by **Verdi** 27.07.21 1:31

Never to be forgotten, the troublesome twosome..

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t15551p25-bearing-false-witness#425328

It's interesting to note that his pair of wannabe celebrities shared a few jollies with two other Ocean Club guests - Neil Berry and Raj Balu - no not he of jungle book fame, at least I don't think so!

Neil Berry made a guest appearance in the Netflix documentary, with tales of his daughters close friendship with Madeleine McCann during that short spring break early May 2007.

Netflix

Two Russian men on the balcony per chance?

by **Verdi** 27.07.22 14:02

A DRAMATIC sighting of missing Madeleine McCann the day after she vanished is being urgently followed up by private investigators.

A man has reported seeing a girl he is now sure was Maddie lying in the back of a van.

She was wearing pyjamas identical to the pair Maddie had on when she was abducted.

The vehicle was white - and other witnesses have recalled seeing a white van near the holiday apartment in Portugal from where she was taken.

A child in pyjamas was also seen being carried by a man at the resort.

New witness Carlos Moreira, 65, has told investigators the little girl he saw was with a man and woman who looked like gipsies.

When shown a previously-unpublished e-fit of a suspect, he identified it as being the van's driver.

A source close to Maddie's parents Kate and Gerry said last night the sighting was "highly significant" and added: "It could be a key breakthrough."

Maddie, of Rothley, Leics, was three when she disappeared on a family holiday in Praia da Luz, on the Algarve, on May 3 2007.

Portuguese Mr Moreira said he only recently connected his sighting with the Maddie hunt because it was 160 miles from where she vanished.

He was driving from Carregado, near Lisbon, to Alentejo on May 4 when he stopped at a snack bar in the Benavente region at 8am.

He told The Sun: "I saw a white van with the back door open. I saw a girl, lying on a pile of clothes in the back. She was wearing a two-piece pyjama set, pink and white, or yellow. I saw her back, I could see her hands and feet.

"She moved one of her fingers but she was deeply asleep. When the van door was opened, she did not wake up, as if she was drugged."

"This girl was blonde and looked around four. A woman came out of the back of the van. I noted that a strong and tall man, wearing a suit, was in front of the snack bar.

"He looked like a gipsy. He was with the woman from the van, he was younger than her. He told her off for leaving the van."

Mr Moreira said the experience stuck in his mind - but he only realised it could be useful when he saw a cop being asked on TV why roads to the north or to Spain were not blocked after Maddie vanished.

He explained: "The road I saw the van on was such a route."

He said the man he saw was clean-shaven, aged 40 to 42, fat but good-looking. The woman was 60 to 65, fat with grey hair.

The McCanns' spokesman Clarence Mitchell said: "His account is being looked into. He has done the right thing in coming forward."

[Acknowledgement pamalam at gerrymccanns blog]

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