SAD about 'Moorside'

Sorry if somebody has already mentioned the same, but after having just watched this, I came away from it just feeling sad.

Not because of the mother and those involved in this case (I do believe they are not the brightest bunch, just as sick as the McCanns, but as I say, possibly a little simple and all too easily influenced) but sadder with the McCann parents. Because they no doubt influenced the thinking behind this scam too. You don't need to be an anthropologist to see that. I was moved in parts by the honest, genuine, caring folk. Who like myself, when Madeleine disappeared, was right behind the parents plea for their daughter's safe return.

The longer the McCanns continue with their (more privileged) bullshit. The sadder it makes me feel for all the parents and relatives of the genuinely missing.

A sad Basil today, with a brush that's limp and lifeless  

Agree with most of this Basil. When I first heard of McCann case it was what rubbish parents leave their children alone but I did expect the Portuguese police to conduct a very thorough investigation which they did. A few months down the line and I just thought this is well odd however with the publicity they were getting then it was pretty obvious to me that whatever the truth was it was not being laid on the table. Look at the Shannon Matthews case. What the moorside should expose is that there is an almost tradition of child sex abuse in Dewsbury which was openly discussed and vulnerable children placed in protection. I just wonder if any of the tapas crew had given concern for investigation in the same vein. Groups of people do not form a pact of silence because they want to see right things being undertaken, it is always because they want to cover up something. Gaspers anyone?

I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

BlueBag wrote:

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

Yep, often thought about this, even today when posting on another thread I was thinking how many periphery names would be caught in the net when it all comes out.

JRP wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

Yep, often thought about this, even today when posting on another thread I was thinking how many periphery names would be caught in the net when it all comes out.

Sounds like a good idea for a new thread....
What shall we call it?

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

JRP wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

Yep, often thought about this, even today when posting on another thread I was thinking how many periphery names would be caught in the net when it all comes out.

Sounds like a good idea for a new thread....
What shall we call it?

Started thinking about fishnets now  :emo3: Sorry

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

JRP wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

Yep, often thought about this, even today when posting on another thread I was thinking how many periphery names would be caught in the net when it all comes out.

Sounds like a good idea for a new thread....
What shall we call it?

6 degrees of separation.

Nina wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

JRP wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

Yep, often thought about this, even today when posting on another thread I was thinking how many periphery names would be caught in the net when it all comes out.

Sounds like a good idea for a new thread....
What shall we call it?

6 degrees of separation.

 

I'm reminded of a post on twitter by Isabel McFadden: "They huffed and puffed and blew their own house down" 

But who will they take down with them?

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

Nina wrote:

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

JRP wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

Yep, often thought about this, even today when posting on another thread I was thinking how many periphery names would be caught in the net when it all comes out.

Sounds like a good idea for a new thread....
What shall we call it?

6 degrees of separation.

 

I'm reminded of a post on twitter by Isabel McFadden: "They huffed and puffed and blew their own house down" 

But who will they take down with them?

The Conspirators. There would be the helpers in concealing a death, a body. Those who tampered with evidence, and the far and wide reaching conspiring to pervert the course of justice.
Should be an interesting documentary. They duped us!

There's also all the people who 'backed' them, either financially or by wearing the Find Madeleine t-shirts - like JK Rowling, David Beckham, Robbie Williams.

All those people will feel betrayed by their lies when it all comes out.

Hey Basil I would say keep your pecker up - or your brush up as I think something's in the air and there's more than a faint whiff of hope now, as momentum is gaining and storm clouds gather over clan McCann.

I tried starching it yesterday, but alas, it was fruitless and so decided to just leave it to sweep the floors behind me. Ingenious me.

Boom! Boom! A very good review of Moorside in The Spectator by the way -  I'll see if I can link it later.

Television
A portrait of group delusion: BBC1’s The Moorside reviewed

Plus: ITV’s immaculate Unforgotten managed to make child abuse seem properly horrifying again

James Walton

Sheridan Smith as Julie Bushby in The Moorside
James Walton
11 February 2017
9:00 AM

With the Shannon Matthews story, it’s not easy to accentuate the positive — but BBC1’s The Moorside (Tuesday) is having a go nonetheless. Although touching at times, the result ultimately proves a rather awkward watch.

Shannon was nine when she went missing from the Moorside estate, Dewsbury, in February 2008. Her mother Karen made a tearful televised appeal for the return of ‘my beautiful princess daughter’, but ended up serving four years in jail for being an accomplice in Shannon’s kidnapping. With her chaotic taxpayer-funded life, and her seven children by five fathers, Karen was duly turned into a sort of anti-poster girl for the tabloids. The Moorside itself became a symbol, including for David Cameron, of ‘our broken society’.


Now this two-part drama sets out, very determinedly indeed, to stand up for the place — by insisting instead that the people of the Moorside are, even by the usual standards of Yorkshire people in TV dramas, peerless salts of the earth. Leading the salinity is Julie Bushby (Sheridan Smith), a woman much given to ruffling the hair of small boys and greeting her neighbours with a cheery cry of ‘Hiya, love’. After Shannon disappeared, Julie organised a community search, several marches and a candlelit vigil. She also gave a series of inspiring speeches about how the people of the Moorside ‘look after our own’ and wouldn’t rest until the girl was ‘back with her family where she belongs’.

The obvious trouble, though, is that Julie’s version of events was completely wrong — and therefore the programme is essentially a portrait of group delusion. Yet, far from seeing itself that way, The Moorside seems not only to share the delusion, but to want us to do so as well. In one of her inspiring moments, Julie declared that whatever people might say about the estate, ‘Its heart’s in the right place.’ But what neither she nor the drama ever appears to realise is that sometimes that’s not enough.

There was more self-delusion, although more honestly depicted, in Channel 5’s The Accused: a gripping and intimate documentary that began with the recording of a call to NHS Direct in November 2014. The callers were Kenzey and her boyfriend Kyle, whose seven-week-old daughter had gone ‘floppy’. In fact, she had injuries so serious that she’ll be brain-damaged and blind for life. The next day, Kyle was arrested for GBH and Kenzey, who’d apparently not seen whatever had happened, was charged with endangering her child by leaving her with a man she knew to be violent.

The programme then followed 23-year-old Kenzey as she prepared her defence. Or rather, as she failed to, because, in the teeth of all the evidence, she refused to accept that she could possibly have predicted Kyle doing anything bad — or even that he necessarily had. Texts emerged in which he apologised for hitting her, and admitted that he was a danger to the baby. At one point, he confessed on Facebook that the baby ‘is unwell because I shook her. I am a child abuser.’ Kenzey, however, stuck firmly to her belief that, while ‘there’s no such thing as a perfect couple’, she and Kyle had rubbed along fine, and that he’d never really hurt anyone. No wonder that her barrister — and I suspect most viewers — grew increasingly exasperated with her unshakable loyalty.

The strange thing was that, through all this, Kenzey remained both weirdly likable and not obviously stupid — although she perhaps put too much trust in such current pieties as the idea that nobody has the right to judge anybody else: an idea not wholly compatible with standing trial in a court of law. It was, mind you, hard to argue with one thing she said. ‘No one,’ she told us, ‘can understand my thought processes.’

Finally, a quick mention for Unforgotten (ITV), which ended on Thursday. The last episode, like all its predecessors, was pretty much immaculate, neatly drawing the many strands of the story together, while also pondering the difference between morality and law. At the risk of sounding heartless, the series even managed to make the issue of child abuse (the dark secret at the heart of virtually every police drama these days) seem properly horrifying again rather than a somewhat overused plot device. And of course, the acting, led by Nicola Walker, was uniformly terrific.

Indeed, my only reservation about the series is entirely unfair. For the past six weeks, it’s been on the night after Channel 4’s No Offence — a police drama that is anything but immaculate, yet bursts with such wild and irresistible energy that Unforgotten sometimes felt almost too controlled and perfect by comparison.

http://www.spectator.co.uk/2017/02/a-portrait-of-group-delusion-bbc1s-the-moorside-reviewed/

Wow! Thank you Get 'em! I love the title' Portrait of Group Delusion' - very prophetic!

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

This could not be done in this country because it might be vomit causing rubbish disgusting every parent aware of the protection requied in cases of child neglect. However:
What if a drama was made in Portugal for TV , broadcasted under licence from their supreme court then uploaded to youtube either english dubbed or subtitled. Truth of the Lie on film. It is going to happen someday, sooner rather than later I would imagine.

Get'emGonçalo wrote:

JRP wrote:

BlueBag wrote:

Google.Gaspar.Statements wrote:I wonder if the McCanns are visualising the sort of drama/documentary that will be made about them when the time comes?

I've said it before, this could be as sensational as the Lindbergh Baby case should it ever get to court.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindbergh_kidnapping

Which is to say ENORMOUS.

It could go down in the annals of history.

Yep, often thought about this, even today when posting on another thread I was thinking how many periphery names would be caught in the net when it all comes out.

Sounds like a good idea for a new thread....
What shall we call it?

Game of Thrones

A bit OT.. from the review.

With her chaotic taxpayer-funded life, and her seven children by five fathers

This is a small part of what is wrong with Britain today.

I expect the social justice warriors would shout me down for saying it - I don't believe tax-payers should fund this and the fathers plus the extended family should pay.

She can have as many kids as she likes, that's freedom.

I don't want to fund it and don't see why I should.

Funding irresponsibility does not encourage responsibility.