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Post by HiDeHo 04.09.16 19:29

In preparation for compiling a list of the events according to the statements and then adding  the discrepancies of that day so they can be seen in context, I have just added many of the previously compiled timetables for the day, including ping timetable and police response timetable..


These are the timetables that were able to highlight and show me the discrepancies for the LIST that I have... It was very much a copy/paste effort and I did not scrutinise as I was adding so there are likely LOTS of unknown discrepancies in them....

Timetables are the easiest way of comparing but they may not be phone friendly so please let me know...

Will be a much bigger project than I anticipated  big grin


UPDATE: NEED ASSISTANCE to check each hour of Thursday to help find discrepancies!

Would appreciate any help...thanks

Choose one hour of Thursday and see all the statements to compare what they all claim they were doing and watch all the discrepancies pop out....(I haven't checked yet)

Important to not include anything that could be memory lapse but most of the statements were from the FOLLOWING DAY and should therefore be  fresh in their mind...

Mattew said none of the group were at breakfast... Rachael said they were ALL there (except McCanns)

Please add any that you find to this thread...  I literally copy and pasted and have not yet scrutinised them

Title: THURSDAY with (soon) Discrepancies.

http://forum4.aimoo.com/madeleinemccanncontroversy/WELCOME-to-HDH-Controversy-Info/THURSDAY-with-Discrepancies-1-2404941.html




Title: THURSDAY Timetables for COMPARISON
http://forum4.aimoo.com/madeleinemccanncontroversy/WELCOME-to-HDH-Controversy-Info/THURSDAY-Timetables-for-COMPARISON-1-2404921.html



Here is the work in progress list of the days events


Title: THURSDAY - What T9 want us to believe
http://forum4.aimoo.com/madeleinemccanncontroversy/WELCOME-to-HDH-Controversy-Info/THURSDAY-What-T9-want-us-to-believe-1-2404663.html



Here is an example of the timetables to MIDDAY...




Kate Gerry FP/DP JT ROB MO RMO DW Others 
7amKATE On May 3 they all woke between 7;30 and 8:00 AM; doesn’t know who woke first.  GERRY Thursday, 3 May 2007, they all woke up at the same time between 07H30 and 08H00       


8am They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 AM. Food bought by her and Gerry at Baptista supermarket.




KATE During breakfast the “crying episode”, already described, took place. She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pijama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.

 While they were taking breakfast MADELEINE addressed the mother and asked her “why didn't you come last night when S*** and I were crying?”. 
   MO - The Thursday morning we, Rachael, G***e and I went to the Millennium Restaurant for breakfast, well as we did each morning, as I’ve already said. There wasn’t anybody else there, we had breakfast on our own. I don’t mean there was nobody else at any other table, but it was fairly quiet, but none of the other group were there initially. Now we were always fairly early because G***e was always awake earliest, erm, awake at, I don’t know”.
00.02.26 4078 “Lucky you!”
Reply “Yeah, always by half six or six o’clock and she’d be sort of sparky and awake and wanting to get up and so we’d sort of trudge on and we might even be banging on the doors waiting for them to open up, we’d be fairly early to breakfast.

 

RMO - On 3rd May, the day of Madeleine’s disappearancethey all (except for the McCanns who stayed in their apartment) has breakfast at the Millenium at 08.00.


  
9am  KATE After breakfast they got dressedand left the apartment by the main door. All children went walking. The verandah door was closed and locked; she doesn’t know whether the main door was locked or unlocked.

After leaving the apartment they left the twins at the creche next to the Tapas; at the same time she supposes that Gerry took Madeleine to the creche next to the 24-hour reception area. 

Once the children had been delivered, they went to the tennis courts for a scheduled tennis lesson. Kate’s group lesson was at 9:15, Gerry’s an hour later. She doesn’t know what Gerry did during that free hour; she presumes he went to the apartment

Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner.
 GERRY Thursday, after breakfast, about 09h00,KATE and the children left by the rear door, he having left by the front door, which he locked with the key, having also closed and locked the rear door from the inside.


They made their way on foot by the usual route to the crèche next to the TAPAS where they left the twins, and, while KATE stayed to play tennis he took MADELEINE to her crèche, through the short-cut, where they arrived at 09h15, and ,
since it was obligatory, he signed the child's attendance register.
 
She doesn’t know what Gerry did during that free hour; she presumes he went to the apartment

GERRY On returning, not by the short-cut, he went to the supermarket where he bought milk, he presumes, making his way to his apartment, entering by the front door, that was locked by key, when it was 09H40/09H45.
----- He remained at home for about 15 minutes, dressing in tennis clothes, left by the front door, that he did not lock, and made his way to the tennis courts by the usual route, they being next to the TAPAS.

  j up late no breakfast

Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner.

J Tennis with RM
 jROB took E&E to Millenium with Matt

ROB Erm well we didn’t see them at, at breakfast me and,me and Matt had gone up to the Millennium for breakfastand we were, we were running a little bit late


j Rob dropped Ella..walked Ev to tennis?
 MO - And so that morning we’d eaten breakfast and we were ready to leave before anybody else arrived and we were actually out of the door when Russell, with his two children, but not Jane, arrived.

 MO - I didn’t really enjoy dropping G***e off at Nursery because she got a bit upset, Rachael volunteered to go and do it. So she went back, erm, she went back first and I stayed with Russell and went back in for breakfast, because I was going to go down to the beach and sail because they had, erm, either a sailing or a wind surfing, I think they had sailing that morning, so I was going to go down and go sailing, that’s what we’d agreed that I would do. Erm, so we went back in and he had breakfast and I think Jane had tennis, I think maybe they were, I think they had a lesson, did they have a lesson together Rachael and Jane, erm, they wouldn’t have done because we’d have had lessons as a couple. And so I went back in with Russell and E**a and E**e and we had breakfast and then we walked back together and we, Russell had to take E**a and E**e, erm, so he dropped E**a off at the, at her Nursery area which was separate from where we drop G***e, 


 Afterwards the witness took G***e to the Club.Madeleine and the twins also went to the Club that morning, (?) as well as the other children in the group.

The witness, after leaving G***e at the club went to the apartment to get ready for tennis. Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner.
 Also present at the tennis courts between 9.10 and 10.10 were Kate McCann, Dianne Webster and Jane Tanner. 




TIME TENNIS  Tennis Records & CommentsOther Locations
 9.00 KM JT RMO
plus blonde lady in 40's
9-10 Adult classic 1




9-10 RFAP?
GPO4?
 Kate’s group lesson was at 9:15,
I think it was kind of generally a sort of women’s tennis lesson that had gone on, there may have been a partner of one of the other, of the other guests, there were a couple of people who were, who Kate and Rachael and Jane had played with, I, I forget the names. I’ve got this vague recollection there was a lady who, probably in her mid-forties, blonde hair,
 
 9.30 KM JT RMO
9-10 Adult classic 1



9-10 RFAP?
GPO4?
  RMOErm well I saw Kate, I chatted to Kate by the pool, erm in the morning”.
1578 “What time was that”?
Reply “That would have been from sort of, you know half nine, ten o’clock onwards

RMO  (May 11)At 09H45 she left the apartment and went to the swimming pool area where she read a book and talked with KATE until llH10, the time at which she went to the tennis courts since the lesson was delayed slightly. At that time her husband MATHEW arrived also to play tennis until about 12.10 pm.
10am  When her lesson ended at 10:15, she went to the recreation area next to the swimming pool to talk to Russelluntil Gerry’s lesson was over
  The Payne couple were also at the beach

DP - on that particular day err me and Fiona had you know gone down to the beach, we err took the dinghies out err as usual
 jThursday another group of children came down for their tennis 
lesson and that’s when Russell and this other person was there with the video camera.conversation with this other person .. because he was taking pictures of his daughter
 ROB
Yesterday, as his daughter **** was feeling ill, the informant dropped **** (his other daughter!) at the Kids Club at around 10am after breakfast. 
He completely corroborates his partner Jane Tanner's statements for the rest of the day.

RMO- Matthew andROB went to the beach

ROB Went to the flat with E***whileshe was resting I went outside to watch Jane play tennis��? I think I was sat and, I went to the flat with E**erm, she, I think she did have a snooze that morning, erm, and I read a book and played with her and then, at some stage, I think when Jane had finished playing tennis, I then went out with E** play tennis��?

ROB After Jane’s tennis lesson? I’ll try and preserve it as much as possible, ‘I recall that one of the guests? erm, ?FONT sia man from Southampton came up full-stop. ‘His daughter it was his three year old daughter, ‘his young daughter was having a? this, it may be word perfect, ‘was having a? erm?
1578 “We have got His daughter was playing tennis Reply “Well, yeah, his, his daughter was having a tennis lesson, you know, a kid’s tennis lesson

And I think that’s important, particularly, because of what the man said, if Madeleine was potentially being photographed by anyone, it was absolutely clear that Madeleine and E were not there that day

And present at that conversation were?��?BR>Reply “Well certainly myself, Jane, Kate and Rachael, 

there were a couple of people who were, who Kate and Rachael and Jane had played with, I, I forget the names. I’ve got this vague recollection there was a lady who, probably in her mid-forties, blonde hair, who may have been there as well, (Anne & Jayne?)

10.52 Russel Mobile On the day of the occurrence, 3rd, there exists only the record made at 10:52:32
MO - he (ROB) went on and I turned left and went down to the beach and went sailing for that morning
 RMO- Matthew andROB went to the beach. The Payne couple were also at the beach. 

Gerry’s tennis session was at 10.00.

  10-11 creche 'minis' tennis
(according to tennis records but not on Lobsters schedule)

Madeleine sailing

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id231.html
\\\"There was one occasion, on Thursday, 3rd of May 2007, around 10H30 in the morning, where she cried at the launch of the yellow safety boat in the ocean where all the children were sailing.She was scared and fearful and cried on my lap \\\"I am scared, I am scared.\\\" We only used the launches to transport the children to the small yellow boats. When we returned to the other boat she was happy again. She sailed in the small boat and even though some children had the opportunity to return to the port, she stayed for a second time as she appeared to be having a good time. Jane Tanner\\\'s daughter also took part in my group and together they would play. Apart from being a happy child in the club, she always seemed very content when she saw her parents. Madeleine did not demonstrate any fear with the return launch to land.\\\"

JEZ Relative to the encounter with Gerry and Kate on the 3rd of May 2007;
I had a tennis lesson with Gerry from 10h00 to 11h00. After the lesson we went to fetch the children from the crèche.


Jez Thursday, 3rd May 2007, at 10 am I went to tennis lesson as usual and Jerry was there and a female. The other two females were not present

JEZ He went to play tennis at 1030hrs and noticed Gerry was there. He engaged in general conversation with him 
as well as a female member of Gerry’s group, but he could not name her. (D

10.00 GM JW Female
(2 females missing)

10-11 Adult classic 2



10-10.30 Adult Classic
 

JEREMY WILKINS
On Thursday, 3rd May 2007, at 10 am I went to tennis lesson as usual and Jerry was there and a female. The other two females were not present. We again engaged in general conversation and played (?!) the lesson for an hour.

He went to play tennis at 1030hrs and noticed Gerry was there. He engaged in general conversation with him as well as a female member of Gerry’s group, but he could not name her. 

Gerry’s an hour later
 
10.30 GM JW
Female
(2 females missing)


10-11 Adult classic 2



Madeleine?
10.30 MINIS
 he lives in Southampton, he was there with his wife and a young kid 
yeah, his, his daughter was having a tennis lesson

10.15 - 11.15 KM ROB - Rec Area When her lesson ended at 10:15, she went to the recreation area next to the swimming pool to talk to Russell until Gerry’s lesson was over

KM JT RMO Court area  - And present at that conversation were?”
Reply “Well certainly myself, Jane, Kate and Rachael, 

RMO-
the last time you saw Madeleine”?
Reply “Erm it was when she was having a tennis lesson, in the morning yeah, about probably between ten thirty and eleven on the morning of the third of May”.
00.41.13 1578 “At the tennis courts”?
Reply “Yes at the tennis courts”.
1578 “Any particular court”?
Reply “Erm it was the one, if you were standing facing the courts, it’s the one on the left I think”.NOTE: Madeleine's group played on Tuesday  and all Mini's tennis was played on Court 2. Rachael is describing court 1. WHY LIE about seeing madeleine?
RMO“Erm well I saw Kate, I chatted to Kate by the pool, erm in the morning”.
1578 “What time was that”?
Reply “That would have been from sort of, you know half nine, ten o’clock onwards, we were chatting when Madeleine arrived for the tennis lesson with the rest of the children from her group, erm I think that was probably about ten thirty, erm and Gerry was there then as well, I think he’d been having a lesson on the tennis courts I think, he was having group lessons, so I think he might have been having his lesson sort of up until then, erm so they were both there then and then erm Matt and I had our tennis lesson  
DP FP MO Sailing Dave and I, taking out a boat together. And, and that morning I think Matt came out as well and he was on a separate boat, 






Russell

 After Jane’s tennis lesson I’ll try and preserve it as much as possible, ‘I recall that one of the guests erm, a man from Southampton came up full-stop. ‘His daughter it was his three year old daughter, ‘his young daughter was having a this, it may be word perfect, ‘was having a erm
1578 “We have got His daughter was playing tennisReply “Well, yeah, his, his daughter was having a tennis lesson, you know, a kid’s tennis lesson


 
And I think that’s important, particularly, because of what the man said, if Madeleine was potentially being photographed by anyone, it was absolutely clear thatMadeleine and E were not there that day
 
And present at that conversation were?��?BR>Reply “Well certainly myself, Jane, Kate and Rachael, 



NOTE: Russell (above) claims they were watching the mini group lesson at 10.30 - 11.00 and describes in detail.

Jane (below) claims they went to the beach and saw Madeleine and Ella.

Both statements are specific and a contradiction of each other

See below.... 





Jane

jRussell, me and Evie walked down to the 
beach.I don’t know 
where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us

 
jDave and Fi were already down there and, no, we 
metwe met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, I think 
they’d had their second sailing lessonthey said ‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’So then we 
went down to the beach, erm, and Russell took out a kayak and I sat and just played


 

jElla and Madeleine and the rest of the groupthey were getting ready to walk back up to the, erm, tut, the 
Kids Club

 
jI’ve got pictures 
of Ella, of Evie, that’s about the first day I took pictures actually
Reply “So, yeah, so we had, erm, the tennis lesson finished, so I’ve had that conversation
about ‘Isn’t it awful you can’t watch your daughter’, blah, blah, blah, ‘You can’t film
your own daughter’. And then we walked down to the beach with Exx. So I think,
erm, I think we walked down, no, Dave and Fi were already down there and, no, we
met. Hang on. Sorry, I’m just trying to think.

(Contradiction corrected, it seems they did both but no mention of the beach by ROB when asked about seeing Madeleine)


 
jThursday was actually probably one of the first nice 
days
the sun had more come out in the day



11am  I don’t know 
where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us
 GERRY The tennis class finished at llH15, he stayed in the pool area talking with his wife andother persons, whom he does not remember.
 FP - FIONA PAYNE And then we were drenched and really wet and really cold, so I think we actually came back to the apartment to get, you know, more clothes because were cold and hadn’t taken enough with us. Erm, and then, so that would have been, I don’t know, eleven, half eleven, that we were back at the apartment. 
And then sat, erm, on, by the pool for a bit with Dave and then we saw Kate and Gerry and we just sat and had a chat with them
 JT - jRussell, me and Evie walked down to the 
beach.I don’t know 
where Kate went at that point, but she didn’t come to the beach with us

jDave and Fi were already down there and, no, we 
metwe met Dave and Fi coming back, because they’d had their second, I think
they’d had their second sailing lessonthey said ‘Oh we’ve seen Madeleine and Ella on a boat down there’So then we 
went down to the beach, erm, and Russell took out a kayak and I sat and just played 


jElla and Madeleine and the rest of the groupthey were getting ready to walk back up to the, erm, tut, the 
Kids Club

jI’ve got pictures 
of Ella, of Evie, (Note: Not Madeleine in the same group?)
 that’s about the first day I took pictures actually

jThursday was actually probably one of the first nice 
daysthe sun had more come out in the day

 JT - jRussell, me and Evie walked down to the 
beach
  The witness’s tennis session was at 11 with Matthew after he returned from the beach. JEZ Relative to the encounter with Gerry and Kate on the 3rd of May 2007;
I had a tennis lesson with Gerry from 10h00 to 11h00. After the lesson we went to fetch the children from the crèche. I saw Gerry and Kate near the pool relaxing. I remember that they were talking to a British tennis instructor whose name is George or Georgina. I remember that she was telling them a bit about her personal life.

JEZ - 3 May 2007.

He went to play tennis at 1030hrs and noticed Gerry was there. He engaged in general conversation with him as well as a female member of Gerry’s group, but he could not name her. After which they all went to the pool. Both Gerry and Kate were present this time and spent the majority of the time talking with the tennis coach. The coach appeared to be talking about her life in general and both Jeremy and Bridget noticed that Gerry and Kate were listening intently to her. Jeremy thought this to be courteous of them considering they did not kn



11.00 MO
11-12 Oldfield (YW?) Dan (L?)



11-12 Foster
MO 4078 “Did you play tennis every day?”
Reply “No, erm, no, I think, I think we tried to play tennis, because they two things, they do sort of organised lessons and we signed up for some lessons which got delayed for weather reasons later in the week, I can’t remember if we signed up for those straight away, because we didn’t do a group, we didn’t do a group lesson which we’d done, when did we do a group lesson, I don’t think we did, I think we just did, Rachael and I, erm, with, erm, with an instructor, because I think we felt we’d play sort of socially with everybody else and then we’d have, do some sort of private lessons rather than signing up all week. I’m not sure about that. I don’t remember playing any organised games with anybody else, I think we just had sort of three, sort of two or three, erm, proper tennis lessons”.
4078 “Do you remember when they were?”
Reply “Erm, I know there was one on the last Thursday,because it got moved over from Wednesday, becauseWednesday it rained and Thursday was a pretty decent day for weather, erm, so it would probably have been, if I’m thinking it’s three, it would probably have been Monday, Tuesday andThursday, but I can’t remember”.

MO -  I assume we made our way back from the beach, picked G***e up from Nursery and, erm, had lunch,


FP eleven, half eleven, that we were back at the apartment

MO - 
 He was sailing until about 11h00 due to which he was late for the tennis class he had booked for that time, together with his wife.

RMO - and then erm Matt and I had our tennis lesson

RMO - until llH10, the time at which she went to the tennis courts since the lesson was delayed slightly. At that time her husband MATHEW arrived also to play tennis until about 12.10 pm.
11.30 MO
11-12 Oldfield (YW?) Dan (L?)
 


11-12 Foster
 MO Thursday is easier to remember for obviously reasons, but Rachael and Jane played tennis that lunchtime and then came back and Russell and I went off to the beach, erm”.
JW-BOD GEORGINA 
I went to the pool where Bridget was. I think Jerry’s wife, [size=13]Kate was already there speaking to the tennis coach. They got really involved in a conversation XXX Jerry would say a joke (?!!!!, unreadible) and go ..

After which they all went to the pool. Both Gerry and Kate were present this time and spent the majority of the time talking with the tennis coach. The coach appeared to be talking about her life in general and both Jeremy and Bridget noticed that Gerry and Kate were listening intently to her. Jeremy thought this to be courteous of them considering they did not know her.



.

FP DP GM KM -Pool area

sat, erm, on, by the pool for a bit with Dave and then we saw Kate and Gerry and we just sat and had a chat with them.

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McCann DISCREPANCIES Thursday May 3rd 7.30am - 9am 



McMINUTE DISCREPANCIES: Who picked up Madeleine from the creche on Thursday? 




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What a great amount of work! Thankyou so much for all you do hideho! I.m so glad you've pointed out the fact that there are no borders to close in Europe anymore! Much to my disappointment when I lived with my father in the south of France and we would drive to Spain, I always wanted my passport stamped but it never happened!

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Here is an example of how these timetables highlight the discrepancies...

Matthew claims the rest of the group wasn't at breakfast....  Rachael claims they were ALL there!

This is BEFORE I add comments of the rest of T7

Gerry KateFP/DP  ROB/JT MO/RMO DW Others  
8.00am 


May 10th While they were taking breakfast MADELEINE addressed the mother and asked her “why didn't you come last night when S*** and I were crying?”. 
  They washed the children and had breakfast at the apartment between 08:00 and 08:30 AM. Food bought by her and Gerry at Baptista supermarket.




KATE During breakfast the “crying episode”, already described, took place. She noticed a stain, supposedly of tea, on Madeleine’s pijama top, which she washed a little later that same morning. She hung it to dry on a small stand, and it was dry by the afternoon. Madeleine sometimes drank tea; the stain did not appear during breakfast, maybe it happened another day, as Madeleine did not have tea the previous night and the stain was dry.
  
MO - The Thursday morning we, Rachael, G***e and I went to the Millennium Restaurant for breakfast, well as we did each morning, as I’ve already said. There wasn’t anybody else there, we had breakfast on our own. I don’t mean there was nobody else at any other table, but it was fairly quiet, but none of the other group were there initially. Now we were always fairly early because G***e was always awake earliest, erm, awake at, I don’t know”.
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Reply “Yeah, always by half six or six o’clock and she’d be sort of sparky and awake and wanting to get up and so we’d sort of trudge on and we might even be banging on the doors waiting for them to open up, we’d be fairly early to breakfast.
 RMO - On 3rd May, the day of Madeleine’s disappearance they all (except for the McCanns who stayed in their apartment) has breakfast at the Millenium at 08.00. 
  
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Post by HiDeHo 05.09.16 21:32

UPDATE: NEED ASSISTANCE to check each hour of Thursday to help find discrepancies!

Choose one hour of Thursday and see all the statements to compare what they all claim they were doing and watch all the discrepancies pop out....(I haven't checked yet)

Important to not include anything that could be memory lapse but most of the statements were from the FOLLOWING DAY and should therefore be  fresh in their mind...

Mattew said none of the group were at breakfast... Rachael said they were ALL there (except McCanns)

Please add any that you find to this thread...  I literally copy and pasted and have not yet scrutinised them

Title: THURSDAY with (soon) Discrepancies.

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Post by HiDeHo 06.09.16 15:10

Unfortunately, there is so much info to collate that it became confusing I and lost some of the statements that I was adding...

I believe this is the most up to date page which includes the rogatories...but I will need to check and add further statements that appear to have been lost...  sad

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