Re: Roderick MacDonald, newest suspect in the McCann case (Daily Mail 15/10/14)

by jeanmonroe 16.10.14 14:13

Have OG/MET/SY EVER stated, categorically, that Madeleine McCann's 'disappearance', IS, beyond contestation, related to paedophillia or a paedophile, specifically?

Is EVERY case of paedophilla, in the UK, or anywhere in the world, 'hot lined' to OG?

(Purely in case, it's possibly Madeleine McCann 'related')

Is EVERY case of possible child 'abduction' anywhere in the world, 'hot lined' to OG, Belgravia?

(Purely in case, it's possibly Madeleine McCann 'related')

Was the case of 'missing' Lisa Irwin, 'reported' ONLY by her parents, ever thoroughly investigated, in Kansas City, Missouri, by officers from OG?

The same 'person/s' might have been responsible for Madeleine's 'disappearance' which was also ONLY 'reported' by her parents, mighten he/she/they?

Did OG officers 'interview' Ian Watkins about his paedophiliac child sex offences against very young, white British children?

If not, why not?

"It is understood the Met want to speak to him regarding a possible paedophile ring"

I wonder why the Met were NOT so 'quick' to 'investigate' possible, er no, ACTUAL paedophile 'rings' (potentially Madeleine McCann 'related') operating in the UK, these past 10 YEARS.

Industrial scale paedophilia child abuse in places like Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxford, Derby, Nottingham etc., and on their own 'doorstep'

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The arrested men are aged between 28 and 45.

Five are of Pakistani origin, one is of Indian origin, one man is black Caribbean and another is of Afghan origin. The ethnicity of the last two men is not yet known.

(actually, the above paragraph, tells me WHY they possibly weren't too 'keen' on 'investigating'. Wouldn't want to be 'called' instutionalised racists, would they?)

That's so, so, much 'worse' than children getting abused, isn't it? (being called 'names'!)

ARE OG going to STATE publicly that Madeleine McCanns 'disappearance' IS, 'related' solely, and only, to paedophilia?

by joyce1938 16.10.14 14:25

I have read sometime today that this chap was being spolken of as he was up for a 13 years old child Problem ? so needs to come back ? wish I could recall where I read it .has anyone else seen it ? could have been Joanna letters today ?

by NickE 16.10.14 14:36

Robinson WAS in Australia and N.Z from 2001-2009 he was arrested in Portugal 2010
Case study from CEOP page 29.
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Case closed.

by Guest 16.10.14 14:40

NickE wrote:Robinson WAS in Australia and N.Z from 2001-2009 he was arrested in Portugal 2010
Case study from CEOP page 29.
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Case closed.

Indeed.

Who is orchestrating this nonsense?

by Joss 16.10.14 14:42

And then of course there is this witness statement:

[color:2f12=000000]I was seated between Dave and Gerry who I believe were both speaking about Madeleine. I don't remember the conversation in its entirety, but it seemed they were discussing a possible scenario. I remember Dave telling Gerry something like "she", referring to Madeleine, "would do this".

When he mentioned "this", Dave was sucking on one of his fingers, pushing it inside and outside his mouth, while with the other hand he made a circle around his nipple, in a circulatory movement over his clothes. This was done in a provocative manner and carried an explicit insinuation in relation to what he was saying and doing.

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by Bishop Brennan 16.10.14 14:42

BlueBag wrote:
"The former oil worker was reportedly living in the Algarve when Madeleine disappeared from the McCanns' holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in May 2007, shortly before her fourth birthday."

What does that even mean?

Reported by who?

Do these journalists have a brain (and a phone)?

This case is extraordinary. For this non-story to be jumped on simultaneously by several rags and given such prominence and inappropriate linkage to Madeleine is incredible. It really demonstrates how wide-reaching and effective is this whitewash. Nothing will stand in its way - not even the recent death. They have come too far now. It's just a question of who takes the fall and how they make it stick.

Does it signal that SY have given up finding a patsy in Portugal? Or is this just an insurance play in case they can't pin it on one of the arguidos?

by NickE 16.10.14 14:44

BlueBag wrote:
NickE wrote:Robinson WAS in Australia and N.Z from 2001-2009 he was arrested in Portugal 2010
Case study from CEOP page 29.
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Case closed.
Indeed.

Who is orchestrating this nonsense?

Absolutely unbelievable, how can these people be allowed to call themselves journalists?
Shame.

by Guest 16.10.14 14:46

This just proves what a desperate situation ordinary people are in who depend on the media for the truth.

They won't find it there.

by Doug D 16.10.14 14:47

‘A 76-year-old British national, who was living in Gozo, will be extradited to the UK where he will serve time for the sexual assault of a girl aged under 13.
Roderick Macdonald, who was living in an apartment at Ta Cenc, consented to be extradited this morning before Magistrate Audrey Demicoli.
He was arrested by the Malta police in the whereabouts of Sannat yesterday.’

‘A European Arrest Warrant had been issued against him on April 25, 2013, by the Lewes Crown Court in East Sussex’

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So this was at the time when OG was still a ‘review’ then and the EAW had nothing whatever to do with OG.

He must have just pinged-up as one of the 600 or so (can't remember how many Redwood said) sexual offenders that needed looking at.

by Joss 16.10.14 14:48

And this:

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Payne suspected of paedophilia

Twelve days after Maddie disappeared, a couple revealed the strange behaviour of one of the group’s members. Testimonies only reached the Judiciária in January this year

David Payne, one of the McCanns’ friends that were on holidays in the Algarve on the 3rd of May last year, when Madeleine disappeared, was suspected of paedophile behaviors.

The accusations were brought by a couple of friends that spent their holidays with part of the group in the summer of 2005 – themselves also English doctors. Twelve days after the British girl disappeared, Katherina and Arul could no longer keep the secret that had bothered them for two years and went to the police to make a statement. They revealed two conversations between Dave and Gerry, during which both revealed suspicious behaviors and indicated sex with minors.
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by joyce1938 16.10.14 14:54

Thanks doug that was the article I had seen ,I thought I could explain it better than I did ,good to read how it is from you joyce1938

by nglfi 16.10.14 15:06

I do wonder if back in 2007 when Madeleine 'disappeared', the McCanns intended her to become a poster girl for paedophile abuse victims everywhere. Every time I see a story about child sex abuse or an offender who has apparently been apprehended, in the UK or anywhere in the EU, poor little Maddie's picture is always somewhere on the page. It is incredibly bizarre when the only known link we have to paedophilia in this case, IMO is the Gasper statements and page 129 of the bewk which displays IMO a quite shocking attitude towards one's own child.

by jeanmonroe 16.10.14 15:21

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And with 'our' fav CEO, JG, in CHARGE! Right THERE at THAT exact time!

JIM GAMBLE, EX-CEO of CEOP = AVID, (some say completely 'obssesive' but i couldn't possibly comment on that!) PRO MCCANN 'SUPPORTER'

CINDY MARTIN, (AUTHOR OF LIFE THREATENING 'TWEETS' to BL BEFORE HER 'DEMISE') = AVID PRO MCCANN 'SUPPORTER'

Spot the er 'common' denominator.

The S&S book, MB and you so heavily 'invested' in, Big Jim, with your publicity for it, was a complete FAIL.

Perhaps you'd could co-author a 'book' about Madeleine's case, with Cindy Martin, your fellow PRO MCCANN 'SUPPORTER'!

Bit late for this Crimbo's best book 'sellers' though,!

by Joss 16.10.14 15:31

nglfi wrote:I do wonder if back in 2007 when Madeleine 'disappeared', the McCanns intended her to become a poster girl for paedophile abuse victims everywhere. Every time I see a story about child sex abuse or an offender who has apparently been apprehended, in the UK or anywhere in the EU, poor little Maddie's picture is always somewhere on the page. It is incredibly bizarre when the only known link we have to paedophilia in this case, IMO is the Gasper statements and page 129 of the bewk which displays IMO a quite shocking attitude towards one's own child.

I think this whole case is all about the McC's clearing their name of any involvement in Madeline's disappearance.
Poor Madeline. sad

by **PeterMac** 16.10.14 17:06

BlueBag wrote:
NickE wrote:Robinson WAS in Australia and N.Z from 2001-2009 he was arrested in Portugal 2010
Case study from CEOP page 29.
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Case closed.
Indeed.
Who is orchestrating this nonsense?

Is Gamble coming out and Denying it ? And if not, why not.
Here is page 29. It is quite clear, the second time you read it !
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by **PeterMac** 16.10.14 17:27

So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

by Silverspeed 16.10.14 18:12

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

Could be just about anyone then really, except of course the two most likely people.

by Dont Make Me Laff 16.10.14 18:27

IMO
If a certain person started divorce proceedings the case would be wrapped up
but
that person has too much to lose

eta
prefers the big house/job/income and everything that goes with it

Sofa hopping is encouraged
Physically SEARCHING is put on others
Taking payment for posters to distribute of a child younger than she was when she disappeared is just a money making scheme
and SICKENING

by margaret 16.10.14 18:33

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

by Dont Make Me Laff 16.10.14 18:38

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field'

Same is important with sales

So why are they widening the field?

by Smokeandmirrors 16.10.14 18:53

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

And £10,000,000 down the drain in the process, at a time where "cutbacks" are resulting in people not receiving certain medications thus hastening their death or preventing their cure, because there "ain't enough dosh in the pot". It sickens me to my core.

This total nonsense is making me lose heart in the case TBH, as I now sincerely believe that someone VERY high up is being protected with LINKS to this case. I don't mean culpable, but tied into what many of us suspect. In which case, the truth may never be made public, we can see how many interesting and damning pieces of information which warrant VERY serious investigation appear to be ignored, while ever increasingly stupid things are being put out in the media regarding fictional suspects.

Also, the Brenda Leyland situation has highlighted to those that care to look, that the most venomous bile has come from the McCann supporters, and so the media has dropped it like a hot potato. Add into the mix that her cause of death has not been made public and the picture becomes ever more murky.

The only thing this "case" has achieved so far is to demonstrate what a corrupt and disgusting mob currently pull the strings of power in our society. It's a two fingered salute, quite frankly, to those who have enough wits about them to see this sham for what it is.

by Guest 16.10.14 19:06

PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !

Brilliant.

Any media person with a conscience should take this and run with it.

Or even Private Eye (who seem rather quiet).

by Dont Make Me Laff 16.10.14 19:37

BlueBag wrote:
PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .
May I ask one question that Just may differentiate all of the above? does the perp have ginger hair?

that just might narrow it down

My hairis albino blond do I QUALIFY?

Any media person with a conscience should take this and run with it.

Or even Private Eye (who seem rather quiet).

Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women
Have long or short hair

by Guest 16.10.14 20:08

BlueBag wrote:
PeterMac wrote:So the age range for "Suspects" and "persons of interest" is now 16 - 72
They may be
Alive or Dead
White, Swarthy, or Black
Men or Women (Thanks Edgar for making that clear !)
Have long or short hair (thanks Jane Tanner for making that clear )
Live in Portugal, Angola, Morocco, Devon, (remember him !) New Zealand, Australia, Belgium, Holland, The Vatican, The White House, various TV studies (depending where we are going to 'search' next)
Be a paedo***, or running a paedo*** ring, or a random burglar who forgot his script, or a couple with no children, or a raggle-taggle gypsy, or some cleaners, or a Charity collector . . .

I was taught that the idea was to "narrow the field' of suspects ! !
Brilliant.

Any media person with a conscience should take this and run with it.

Or even Private Eye (who seem rather quiet).

Not that quiet, BlueBag, as PE has a snippet in the current edition on Best magazine's reporting of BL's tweets - "IS THIS BRITAIN'S SICKEST WOMAN?"

ETA: According to PE, the original coverline was: "McCANN TROLL: MAY SHE ROT IN HELL!"

by **PeterMac** 16.10.14 20:58

Two of these seem to have got through

On the Run British Paedophile . . . !
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In this article you give the clear impression that he might have been in the Algarve at the relevant time.

I am sure ONE of your journalists has realised that this is totally false.
In the CEOP annual report of 2009-1010
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at page 29 he is used as a case history, and this makes it clear that he was in New Zealand from 2001 - 2009

I trust you will be issuing a correction, (unless Clarence Mitchell instructs you to carry on with this ludicrous story !)

Yours sincerely
Peter Mac
retired Police Superintendent
**** 1972 - 2000

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by NickE 16.10.14 21:08

PeterMac wrote:Two of these seem to have got through

On the Run British Paedophile . . . !
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In this article you give the clear impression that he might have been in the Algarve at the relevant time.

I am sure ONE of your journalists has realised that this is totally false.
In the CEOP annual report of 2009-1010
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at page 29 he is used as a case history, and this makes it clear that he was in New Zealand from 2001 - 2009

I trust you will be issuing a correction, (unless Clarence Mitchell instructs you to carry on with this ludicrous story !)

Yours sincerely
Peter Mac
retired Police Superintendent
**** 1972 - 2000

Copied to all the usual people.

by sallypelt 16.10.14 21:43

Are the McCann's in Portugal? According to this video, they are:

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by phil_burton 16.10.14 22:55

Interesting if they are.

I'd like to ask a question.

If, if, if... Gerry and Kate ever got a call to go back to be questioned... Do people ever wonder whether this news would actually see the light of day?

With Carter Ruck helping them, and the MSM just printing whatever Clarrie tells them to, it is plausible that this could be hushed up...do you not think?

by Naz_Nomad 16.10.14 23:14

If they are trying to fit up a convicted paedophile or whoever they might eventually pin it on, what happens at a trial?

Would the McCanns and their Tapas friends be brought in as witnesses? thinking

by phil_burton 16.10.14 23:25

Naz_Nomad wrote:If they are trying to fit up a convicted paedophile or whoever they might eventually pin it on, what happens at a trial?

Would the McCanns and their Tapas friends be brought in as witnesses?

This is why the whole thing is a farce - it would never get near a court because there's not a shred of evidence against anyone else but the parents and the Tapas 7.

Merely knowing someone was in the vicinity, or a sighting of them in the vicinity (which may be incorrect) is not enough to charge someone, let alone have it stand up in court.

Newspapers are 90% PR, they are paid to print stories about all sorts of companies, it's no different for this case. Everything you read in the MSM about this case has been placed there by interested parties.

What's really going on is anyone's guess. The early years were all about generating more cash for the fund, however, public opinion is on the turn now, there's only so long you can sell a lie before people stop caring, so stories appearing nowadays are purely reputation management, ensuring the finger is firmly pointing away from the Mccanns.

IMO every reputation management story of a new "suspect" is an indicator of when something else is happening, something that needs burying beneath another story.