Re: Bernt Stellander interview

by Justice for Maddie 23.08.24 17:28

OMG Jill ! We can't wait for the update. Thank You

by Cake Lover 23.08.24 17:40

I'm pleased that Bernt has you and Petermac - well , the forum really - in his corner. It's lovely that he knows he can trust you.

by **Jill Havern** 23.08.24 17:42

PeterMac wrote:I am told that Bernt S is planning another follow-up interview in the Autumn and that he has some new material to talk about.
The stats on the last one are encouraging. 3 weeks in and almost a million views

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To quote PeterMac ^^^

I trust Bernt, and I believe we have to do things at his pace.
Let's not forget that he spent 7 years alone on the Hill, with his field cameras and drones, to even bring us this book.

His investigation doesn't stop just because the book has been released. NO! The Brick is just the start of the next phase that we can all be a part of.

I say let's join him on the next part of his journey.

by AnneCGuedes 23.08.24 17:47

Jill Havern wrote:

I will also say that Bernt is not in this for the money - he's sent out many free copies of his book and even replaced the one I chopped up so I could read it without painkillers.

Do you know whether he sent his book to the PJFiles volunteer translators, without whom he would not have been able to carry out any research? At least not to me!

by **Jill Havern** 23.08.24 19:58

AnneCGuedes wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:

I will also say that Bernt is not in this for the money - he's sent out many free copies of his book and even replaced the one I chopped up so I could read it without painkillers.

Do you know whether he sent his book to the PJFiles volunteer translators, without whom he would not have been able to carry out any research? At least not to me!

I'm not sure I understand your question - why would he need to go through a volunteer translators site (pamalam) to conduct a private investigation?

by **Jill Havern** 24.08.24 5:30

Oh, I see what you mean.

I meant he sent free copies out to people like the McCanns, Tapas7, the Nuggets, Pat Brown, Natasha Donn, Sonia Poulton, PJ, GA, Grange, Wolters, Fulscher, Clarence Mitchell, some journalists including Jon Clarke, Martin Brunt etc...

by Paddingtom 24.08.24 6:56

I agree with everyone. It would be great to have a solution but Bernt has devoted so much time to this, it would be awful if something went wrong because he didnt time things properly. I think we need to trust his instinct and will him to take the right action at the right time.

by **PeterMac** 24.08.24 7:23

Cake Lover wrote:I'm pleased that Bernt has you and Petermac - well , the forum really - in his corner. It's lovely that he knows he can trust you.

He also knows that we are fierce and deadly critics of any theory which is not backed up with evidence or with a very logical progression from existing evidence
which complies with the strictures of Occam's Razor

One of the features of this forum is the number of times a reply is "Do you have a reference for that ?" or "There is no evidence for that."
which is where we started on 4/5/7. No evidence of Abduction

by **PeterMac** 24.08.24 9:34

And thus are internet myths started
Bernt wrote the book IN ENGLISH - his second language, and had it translated into Portuguese so it would be easily accessible to – amongst others – the PJ !
There is no Norwegian version.
The postage alone for the free copies he has sent to people to review and to get his hypothesis better known is over €1500, which also represents about another €1850 in printing costs and delivery to him.
My own bill is somewhat less, but not inconsiderable. It was judged necessary for Operation Brick to move forward

Did anyone receive a free copy of Jon Clarke's book ? Even to review ? Or Summers and Swann's ? Or Kate McCann's ?
Or did they all know that no one who knew anything about the case would be remotely impressed ?

He acknowledges both Nigel Moore and Pamalam in the introduction and is in contact with her.

by **PeterMac** 24.08.24 10:27

And for the record - HE paid for the professional translators for the book, which with start up costs for the whole project amount to some tens of thousands,
now add professional quality TrailCams, memory chips, batteries and 7 years of petrol, accommodation and loss of income . . .
and we realise that he is unlikely ever to break even, particularly if he keeps sending out free copies !!!

by Ladyinred 24.08.24 10:40

Jill Havern wrote:Oh, I see what you mean.

I meant he sent free copies out to people like the McCanns, Tapas7, the Nuggets, Pat Brown, Natasha Donn, Sonia Poulton, PJ, GA, Grange, Wolters, Fulscher, Clarence Mitchell, some journalists including Jon Clarke, Martin Brunt etc...

So why aren't Brunt, Clarke et al commenting on the book thinking

by **Jill Havern** 24.08.24 10:49

I dunno, let me find out onphone

Me: Hey Martin, why aren't you commenting on the Brick?
MB: Sod off.

Me: Hey Superman, why aren't you commenting on the Brick?
JC: F*** off, CB did it.

Charming.

$i don\'t know$

by crusader 24.08.24 11:24

If the nuggets are innocent and they got a book in the mail accusing them of conspiring with the McCann's to commit a serious crime, wouldn't they be taking action against Stellander and getting the police involved?
The silence is deafening.

by Ladyinred 24.08.24 12:36

Has Bernt accused the Nuggets of a crime? He may have written about his observations of them, which is not the same thing.

No-one involved will comment, they don't want to draw attention to the book. Privately, they will be busy, IMO.

by crusader 24.08.24 12:44

Not a crime they committed, but conspiring with the McCann's to avoid them being caught.
If they were on the Rocher Negra surreptitiously rummaging about, then they are involved in my opinion.
Unless of course, Stellander has completely got it wrong and they were looking for the dog's lost ball.

by Bluebagthepirate 24.08.24 12:46

The Nuggets are sometime members of the congregation of the church in PDL.

I'm sure some of those members know who they are from the nick-name and are asking questions behind the scenes.

I did consider joining their Facebook group to ask some questions about if they were aware what was being said about one of the congregation?

by AnneCGuedes 24.08.24 14:44

PeterMac wrote:
And thus are internet myths started
Bernt wrote the book IN ENGLISH - his second language, and had it translated into Portuguese so it would be easily accessible to – amongst others – the PJ !
There is no Norwegian version.
The postage alone for the free copies he has sent to people to review and to get his hypothesis better known is over €1500, which also represents about another €1850 in printing costs and delivery to him.
My own bill is somewhat less, but not inconsiderable. It was judged necessary for Operation Brick to move forward

Did anyone receive a free copy of Jon Clarke's book ? Even to review ? Or Summers and Swann's ? Or Kate McCann's ?
Or did they all know that no one who knew anything about the case would be remotely impressed ?

He acknowledges both Nigel Moore and Pamalam in the introduction and is in contact with her.

A myth!!! I must be the only person who understands your post, PeterMac, because you are reacting here to a message I sent and was whooshed.

The book's editor, Maria Esther de Modocromia, told me (I asked) that the book was written in Norwegian. BS then translated it himself into English and this version was reviewed by an English-speaking Portuguese. A Portuguese man translated it from English into Portuguese. Of course the quality of a translation depends on the quality of the original.

Would Marie Esther have lied? And why?

BS could have thanked the translators, it was an opportunity to show gratitude as translations were done for free.

Since, as you say, BS is in contact with Pam, PeterMac, I'd be very grateful for confirmation that she's all right, because I haven't had a reply to my many emails for a long time. The fact that there is no mention of BS's book on her site worries me greatly.

by Ladyinred 24.08.24 15:03

I read your post, and noticed it had disappeared.

Bernt probably drafted the book in his native Norwegian for translation by him when complete.

by pinkgladioli 24.08.24 15:26

Bluebagthepirate wrote:The Nuggets are sometime members of the congregation of the church in PDL.

I'm sure some of those members know who they are from the nick-name and are asking questions behind the scenes.

I did consider joining their Facebook group to ask some questions about if they were aware what was being said about one of the congregation?

We don’t know what congregation the Nugget’s belongs to with the church being used for differing and separate denomination’s
Some of the Anglican’s seem to be a nice bunch not!

There’s an article from 2006 Guardian that is worth a read, regarding a chaplain of the congregations of Almancil, Luz, and St Luke being bullied out by parishioners

Clergyman compensated after bullying by Algarve retirees
(Guardian fri 21 July 2006)

Mr Britt said: My style of ministry was not welcomed by some of the congregation who waged a campaign to get rid of me that included my being subjected to abusive phone calls emails and some parishioners refusing to take communion from me.

One of Mr Britt’s supporters Paul Luckman told the Guardian: There are lots of people who retire here from powerful backgrounds and find themselves with nothing else to do, They resented being asked to put their hands in their pockets for the stewardship programme

by **PeterMac** 24.08.24 15:36

Maria may have misunderstood. In fact MUST have misunderstood.
Bernt wrote the brick in ENGLISH and arranged with the publishers, to have it professionally translated into Portuguese, for which he paid. (a LOT)
As he has observed, every reference he uses is in English, so that was the logical choice
All his notes over the seven years were also in English
But what possible difference does it make to Madeleine’s death on Wednesday 2nd May 2007 ?

by AnneCGuedes 24.08.24 16:26

PeterMac wrote:Maria may have misunderstood. In fact MUST have misunderstood.
Bernt wrote the brick in ENGLISH and arranged with the publishers, to have it professionally translated into Portuguese, for which he paid. (a LOT)
As he has observed, every reference he uses is in English, so that was the logical choice
All his notes over the seven years were also in English
But what possible difference does it make to Madeleine’s death on Wednesday 2nd May 2007 ?

What about Pamalam ?

by AnneCGuedes 24.08.24 16:36

I asked Maria Esther, in Portuguese of course, if the book had been written in English. She hesitated a little, then said it had been written in Norwegian but translated by the author and revised by an English-speaking Portuguese. I explained that I just wanted to know in which language the book was closer to the original version, as I read in both languages.

by **Jill Havern** 24.08.24 17:11

Ladyinred wrote:I read your post, and noticed it had disappeared.

Bernt probably drafted the book in his native Norwegian for translation by him when complete.

Bernt told me he wrote the book (and all his notes over the course of his investigation) in English.

Why would he write an 850 page manuscript in Norwegian and then write those same 850 pages all over again in English? Makes no sense.

By the way, Bernt speaks perfect English when he's doing podcasts etc.

by AnneCGuedes 24.08.24 18:48

A few (rare) authors (not people who write books) have written in their mother tongue and also in adopted languages, such as Fernando Pessoa or Vladimir Nabokov. A translator normally translates from a foreign language into their mother tongue.

Some of the PJFiles translators, whose mother tongue was English, did not know Portuguese, but were Spanish speakers. Nevertheless, this led to a few errors that I always pointed out to Pamalam when I discovered them.

The robot translators who translate into English have a mediocre style and sometimes make misunderstandings, but on the whole they are acceptable.

by **Jill Havern** 24.08.24 18:50

Have you read Bernt's book?

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