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Post by Amy Dean 10.09.24 11:00

Thanks for the info PeterMac about the Boyd article. I hadn't seen this before and the article has always puzzled me. So it's just a case of a "journalist" (using the word loosely) being more economical with the truth than usual.
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Post by Jill Havern 10.09.24 11:05

deepeepee wrote:
Truthseeker90210 wrote:I purchased Bernt’s book from Amazon and read from fin to back. I can across a description of the back page photo of the book..it sent shivers down my spine.however, this picture isn’t in the Amazon version or Ishtar just me? from this description I could only think about cult rituals.
Could you tell us what is the description you are referring to?
Do you have a photo to share or can you copy the text for us?

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Bernt describes it as a 'giraffe' with an evil goat head.

Handmade.... think

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Post by Cake Lover 10.09.24 11:09

Or a rocking horse? Either way, it's not attractive. If it has been there since Bernt set up his cameras, I'm surprised it hasn't collapsed. If it was made after he started filming, he has images of the people who did it.
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Post by Jill Havern 10.09.24 11:18

From the notes I'm seeing on the Kindle version search, (not from memory now), he captured the Nuggets and Gerry carrying a small dog (at different times) at this spot. The dog turned out to be the Nugget's dog that he saw when he was in the cafe.

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Post by Cake Lover 10.09.24 11:23

Perhaps the dog was the model.
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Post by Jill Havern 10.09.24 11:27

A model what?   huh

By the way...rocking horse is good! And very fitting for a child.

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Post by Jill Havern 10.09.24 11:30

From Bernt just now:

It's a dead tree likely from lightning, it is strong but placed upside down intentionally... Evidently, as it has this "on the look out" , an imaginary protector. Nothing sacrificial, just imagination and romanticizing it's purpose and the area.

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Post by Justice for Maddie 10.09.24 11:55

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We know there is an obelisk on the cliffs above PdL. They are also important symbols for freemasons and stand for eternity and immortality. So the body could be in this area.
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Post by Justice for Maddie 10.09.24 11:58

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Post by Bluebagthepirate 10.09.24 11:59

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We know there is an obelisk on the cliffs above PdL. They are also important symbols for freemasons and stand for eternity and immortality. So the body could be in this area.
 But this one is for geo-positioning.

Used by surveyors.

It's legit.
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Post by Justice for Maddie 10.09.24 12:07

Bluebagthepirate wrote:
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We know there is an obelisk on the cliffs above PdL. They are also important symbols for freemasons and stand for eternity and immortality. So the body could be in this area.
 But this one is for geo-positioning.

Used by surveyors.

It's legit.

I don't say that the body is near the obelisk, but could be in the cliff area.
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Post by Cake Lover 10.09.24 12:09

Is it the same thing as a triangulation point?
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Post by crusader 10.09.24 12:17

Depends what's more important to them, being a freemason or a catholic.
They would have been looking for a hiding place that could possibly never be found and up to now hasn't been.
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Post by pinkgladioli 10.09.24 12:38

I wonder if GM has links to an organisation like the Ancient Order of Hibernians, or a similar one
The AOH is an Irish Catholic organisation, Members must be Catholic and either Irish born or of Irish descent 
In his Sister Patricia’s statement she makes a point of mentioning something about Gerry’s roots being important to him I doubt these roots were Scottish based with him being the only one of his Sibling’s being born there.
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 10.09.24 14:21

Cake Lover wrote:Is it the same thing as a triangulation point?
Yes.
It's a fixed point for surveyors.
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Post by Bluebagthepirate 10.09.24 14:24

The geodesic landmark of Atalaia, high above Luz, was built in 1926. At 108 m (360 feet), the site offers sweeping views along the coast and marks the highest point on the Algarve coastline. The trig point was used back in the day for surveying purposes but is now used by hikers for navigation. It is one of Portugal's +/- 9,000 geodetic landmarks. Geodetic markers are signals that indicate an exact cartographic position and form part of a triangulation network with other geodesic markers. Usually, they are installed in high and isolated places with a clear line of sight to other vertices. Although locals call it "the Monument", it has no historic meaning. Another such marker is the Torre de Aspa on the Costa Vicentina coast, about 5Km from Vila do Bispo, with a nice 360º view.
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Post by Cake Lover 10.09.24 14:34

Bluebagthepirate wrote:
Cake Lover wrote:Is it the same thing as a triangulation point?
Yes.
It's a fixed point for surveyors.
Thank you. There's a small one not far from where I live; it's in a field and I thought it was some sort of marker for the R.A.F.
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Post by PeterMac 11.09.24 6:55

Amy Dean wrote:Thanks for the info PeterMac about the Boyd article. I hadn't seen this before and the article has always puzzled me. So it's just a case of a "journalist" (using the word loosely) being more economical with the truth than usual.


That is very charitable, but I think too soft on any test.

I would say it was a Journalist who was given a brief to write a specific story, and was told to find an unsuspecting stooge to insert into it.  
Ideally someone who would never read or become aware of the article.

Mrs Boyd NEVER said or implied ANY of the things in the article.  It is a total invention.
But the date of publication coincides with other major events in a way which might indicate
coordination at a high level.
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Post by Truthseeker90210 11.09.24 8:35

Wow thanks for posting the giraffe pic. It definitely looks out of place. It makes you wonder if this is close to the final resting place, why would they risk causing attention
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Post by Cake Lover 11.09.24 9:22

It could be something locals, or holiday makers built; they saw the shape of the branches and made a giraffe/rocking horse. It's not necessarily a part of Madeleine's burial place.
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Post by Jill Havern 11.09.24 9:47

The giraffe is right next to Spot 2 which Bernt believes could be Maddie's grave.

Mrs Nugget was captured on film right by the giraffe and then bending down at Spot 2.

Bernt could also hear on the film that Mrs Nugget was doing something to the 'grave', possibly rearranging stones that had been disturbed by animals.

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Post by pinkgladioli 11.09.24 10:12

PeterMac wrote:
Amy Dean wrote:Thanks for the info PeterMac about the Boyd article. I hadn't seen this before and the article has always puzzled me. So it's just a case of a "journalist" (using the word loosely) being more economical with the truth than usual.


That is very charitable, but I think too soft on any test.

I would say it was a Journalist who was given a brief to write a specific story, and was told to find an unsuspecting stooge to insert into it.  
Ideally someone who would never read or become aware of the article.

Mrs Boyd NEVER said or implied ANY of the things in the article.  It is a total invention.
But the date of publication coincides with other major events in a way which might indicate
coordination at a high level.
It deffo seems extremely orchestrated I feel all part of the wider agenda to try and fool us all 
It looks very much like Clarence the now silent Mitchell has his grubby paws all over it, along with unknown others
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Post by Buzz Shine 11.09.24 10:27

What's very difficult to ever know, is when did Mitchell know all wasn't well with the McCanns' story. Right from the word go, or was it that far down the line that he was in it up to his neck?
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Post by Jill Havern 11.09.24 11:04

I believe Bernt will have some new info to divulge about the giraffe and Spot 2 on his next podcast with James English.
He has promised that it will be  bomb

Bring it on   bring it on

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Post by pinkgladioli 11.09.24 11:40

Who orchestrated the McCs magical mystery tour of the European Countries?  taking in Countries that use the Algarve for tourism with addiction of Morocco IMO to make it look like it was a trip designed to search for Madeleine, 
What was the real purpose of these trips? 
There were appeals made at various press conferences in these countries for vacationers to upload any photographs of their vacation in the Western Algarve in the two weeks up to the 3rd May 
What happened to any photo’s uploaded especially any that were signicant to the agency(s) requiring them, as they were uploaded I’m sure these agencies would be able to trace any significant photo’s source, would they have been contacted directly to hand over all significant photo’s and at the same time silenced in some way? I reckon if there was any signicant photo’s retrieved they deffo would not have been handed over to the Portuguese authorities 
Who along with the McC’s could possibly be getting protected 
The tour could possibly have been used as the perfect distraction for what the McC’s were potentially up to in the little time they spent in PDL in this time frame 
Could something similar to all of the above have been the mastermind behind GM’s visit to London Town?
The sick person on the plane, the trials and tribulations of the story of the stolen wallet etc all engineered for us to focus on than what potentially else could have been happening 

One things is for sure the magazine article the release of the so called last photo, the magical mystery tour is in the time frame of the appearance of the Mitchell and his ludicrous dulcet tones!  Who did he really work for back then  and who else was potentially being protected?
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Post by Truthseeker90210 11.09.24 13:27

Jill Havern wrote:I believe Bernt will have some new info to divulge about the giraffe and Spot 2 on his next podcast with James English.
He has promised that it will be  bomb

Bring it on   bring it on

Can’t wait for the follow up. Any idea when this is planned?
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Post by pinkgladioli 11.09.24 13:39

I think we can rule out the 15th September as Live Audiencw with James English is on at the Pavilion Theartre Glasgow 
I’d deffo have booked up and travelled to go see if Bernt was one of his guests, I’d of course taken my book with me in the hope that I could get Bernt to sign it 😊
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Post by Jill Havern 11.09.24 13:42

I've already got a signed copy   nails

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Post by Jill Havern 11.09.24 13:46

Truthseeker90210 wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:I believe Bernt will have some new info to divulge about the giraffe and Spot 2 on his next podcast with James English.
He has promised that it will be  bomb

Bring it on   bring it on

Can’t wait for the follow up. Any idea when this is planned?
I'll check with him, but I reckon it'll be October cos I know he's got some other stuff going on in November with one of our CMOMM members that will also be made public...and I'm sure he'll want the James English podcast to have happened by then.

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Post by Jill Havern 11.09.24 13:51

And inbetween now and October he's still doing stuff to be included in the podcast, or elsewhere.

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