The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
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The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
From: Ms Jill Havern and members of ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’
[address withheld]
Rt. Hon. Mrs Theresa May
Prime Minister
10 Downing Street
LONDON
W1A 1AA
Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
Metropolitan Police
8-10 Broadway,
LONDON
SW1H 0BG
Monday 12 June 2017
Dear Prime Minister and Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
NEW DEVELOPMENTS SINCE September 2016: The conduct of the Operation Grange investigation into the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann
As before, I write on behalf of the members of my forum ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’, whose membership has grown to 7,645 since my previous letter.
I now write to you again on your re-election as Prime Minister and as before wish you well in that capacity.
You and the new Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Ms Cressida Dick, will recall that nine months ago, I wrote to you in robust terms about the truth about what really happened to Madeleine McCann. I gave you, in particular, detailed evidence about the misconduct of the various private detectives and agencies used by the McCanns. They had used a series of discredited or bogus investigation agencies - and at least four of their detectives had been imprisoned for criminal offences after they had been engaged by the McCanns. Two of their investigators, Kevin Halligen and Antonio Giminez Raso, each served four years in jail. Yet Operation Grange has deemed that the material collected by these criminal or discredited investigators is somehow worthy of consideration.
I suggested to you previously that the expensive farce that Operation Grange had become should be ended, and that you should set up a fresh inquiry team, with an unlimited remit, which could investigate whether the McCanns were directly involved in any way in the reported disappearance of their daughter.
There have been at least three major developments since I last wrote to you, which fully reinforce what I said back in September - and make it more urgent than ever that Operation Grange is ended and a new inquiry set up with an unlimited remit.
These are:
(1) The original Portuguese police investigation co-ordinator, Dr Goncalo Amaral, winning, in January this year, the libel case brought against him in June 2009 by the McCanns
(2) The clear declaration by the Portuguese Supreme Court, announced in February this year, that the McCanns had been wrong to claim that they had been ‘cleared’ by the Portuguese police investigation. The Court ruled (a) that the McCanns had NOT been cleared, (b) that the alleged criminal offence of the McCanns, i.e. having hidden Madeleine’s body, was still being investigated, and (c) that proceedings against the McCanns could still be taken if new and credible evidence of their involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance were to emerge, and
(3) The revelation in April this year by a former senior Metropolitan Police officer, Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton, that he had been advised by a very senior Metropolitan Police officer that he should not accept the recommendation of the former Head of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Service, Jim Gamble, that he (Sutton) should head the proposed Operation Grange Review - because it would have a strictly limited remit and he would “not be able to go where he wanted”.
Moreover, in later remarks discussing the advice the ‘very senior’ officer had given him, Sutton stated in a SKY News documentary, and in an interview with an Australian TV network, that he had reasons for believing that the McCanns might , after all, have been involved in Madeleine’s disappearance.
In my previous letter I respectfully reminded you as follows, quote:
“Whilst you were at the Home Office you personally approved and organised the setting-up of Operation Grange in 2011 and approved its remit, which was to investigate ‘the abduction. The innocence of the McCanns in the disappearance of the daughter was assumed to begin with and so, contrary to all normal rules of police investigation and conduct, any lines of enquiry which might suggest that the McCanns knew or were involved in the disappearance of Madeleine were excluded right from the start.
“As Home Secretary from 2010 to 2016 you would have had regular briefings on the case from your most senior advisers, civil servants, and security service and police officers and you would no doubt have been fully informed of the intensive involvement of government security services and other agencies in the case from the very first day, and their continuing extensive involvement for many years later.
“You must have personal knowledge that the McCanns have by no means been ruled out of involvement in Madeleine’s disappearance”.
At the end of January this year, after a legal process that lasted over 7½ years, the Portuguese Supreme Court refused the McCanns’ appeal against a ruling in the Portuguese Appeal Court in April 2016 that the original Portuguese investigation co-ordinator was not guilty of libeling the McCanns in his book on the case: ‘The Truth of the Lie’. His book, published back in 2008, had given clear evidential reasons for believing that Madeleine McCann had died in the McCanns’ apartment, and that they had covered up Madeleine’s death and arranged to hide her body.
The comments of former Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton
I now reproduce some of the statements made by former Detective Chief Inspector Colin Sutton. In a SKY TV documentary on the Madeleine McCann case, he said::
“I did receive a call from a very senior Met Police officer who knew me and said it wouldn't be a good idea for me to head the investigation on the basis that I wouldn't be happy conducting an investigation being told where I could go and where I couldn't go, the things I could investigate and the things I couldn't...”
In a longer interview with an Australian news source, he said:
"There were critical errors because of a high level agenda to not interrogate the child's parents...", and
"Operation Grange's narrow remit to focus only on the theory that the four-year-old was abducted from the family's holiday apartment in Portugal was unusual and a 'missed opportunity'..."
The Australian article continued: "In 2010...Sutton received a phone tip-off from 'a very senior Metropolitan police officer', warning him about the looming investigation and how it would be handled. The insider told Sutton, who served 30 years with London's Met before retiring in 2011, that the dozens of murder detectives assigned to Operation Grange would be instructed where they could and couldn't look. 'I immediately assumed that what was meant was that the [McCann] family and Tapas 7 [the group of seven friends on holiday with the McCanns] were a no-go area', Sutton said".
The article went on "...the detective's instincts were proven correct. The 'crucial phrase', as Sutton calls it, in the Operation Grange remit was a line stating the review would be carried out 'as if the abduction occurred in the UK'. That meant Kate and Gerry McCann, despite several concerning inconsistencies in their witness statements, were not to be looked at”, Sutton said. The rest of [the remit] is really of little consequence after that because that's sort of saying…we are only treating this as an abduction and we are not looking at any other scenario."
"Sutton also hit out at Scotland Yard claims that the McCanns...had been cleared...'The PJ have never cleared anyone', Sutton said. ‘Ceasing the investigation 'just meant they couldn't find enough evidence to proceed against them'."
Moreover, they quoted more statements from Sutton: “Sutton...said it was well-rehearsed, best police practice in cases such as Madeleine McCann to eliminate those closest to the child first. 'Also any kind of investigation of murder or akin to murder the other place you need to eliminate early on is those that last saw the victim alive. In this case you've got essentially the same group of people who are both close to the victim and the last to see her alive. I'd always want to start with that. I don't understand why that hasn't been done [by Operation Grange]...'."
Sutton said he disagreed with [Met Police] Asst Com Rowley's assessment. He said inconsistencies in some of Kate and Gerry's statements, Kate's 2011 book ‘madeleine’ and also some of the witness accounts of the Tapas 7 disturbed him.
"After police found no forensic evidence in the apartment to back up claims of a break in, Gerry's statements to police detailing what doors he and Kate had used while checking on their three sleeping children changed".
The article concluded: “Portugal's police also had some doubts over the accuracy of timelines provided by Kate and Gerry, and the Tapas 7, in the critical hours either side of Maddie being reported missing at 10pm. Specialist cadaver and blood dogs were brought to Praia da Luz from the UK, and signalled hits inside apartment 5A and a hire car rented by the McCanns 25 days after Madeleine disappeared. [Colin Sutton said that] It was 'entirely possible' that some of Operation Grange's remit was forced upon Scotland Yard by government officials who rubber stamped the multi-million-[pound] funding of the investigation".
The comments of Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley
I also wish to refer to the comments made by Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley about the case in an extended interview given to the media.
He told his interviewer: “What I’ve always said on this case, and I’ve said it to Kate and Gerry as well, we will do everything reasonably possible to try and find an answer for them”. He thus confirms DCI Colin Sutton’s statements that the remit, devised originally by Detective Superintendent Hamish Campbell, excluded the McCanns from the investigation.
In rambling responses to the interviewer, AC Rowley said first of all that: “There is still a lot unknown”, but later contradicted himself by stating: ”We’ve achieved a complete understanding of it all”. Later in the same interview he contradicted himself once again by saying: “Ten years on, we still don’t have definitive evidence about exactly what’s happened”, and further adding: “All the different hypotheses have to remain open”. In the same vein, he continued: “This case is [one where] the evidence is limited at the moment as to which one of the [various] hypotheses we should follow. So we have to keep an open mind”.
He continued: “As I said earlier on we have no definitive evidence as to whether Maddie is alive or dead” but then, bizarrely, claimed: “The investigation has achieved an awful lot”.
He also referred to the initial Portuguese investigation, stating that: “When we started, we started five or so years into this, and there is already a lot of ground been covered, we don’t cover the same ground, what we do is pull all the material we had at the start, all the Portuguese material…” This material included multiple lines of evidence that Madeleine died in the McCanns’ apartment.
He then said: “It would be no different if there were a cold case in London, a missing person from 1990, we would go back to square one look at all the material and if the material was convincing, it ruled out that line of enquiry, we would look somewhere else…You don’t restart an investigation pretending it doesn’t exist and do all the same enquiries again, that is not constructive… What hypotheses does it open, what does it close down…?”
So, despite all the material in the Portuguese police files pointing to Madeleine’s death in the McCanns’ apartment, AC Rowley admitted that Operation Grange ignored these lines of enquiry. To make it crystal clear, Rowley confirmed that “We did not interview the McCanns as potential suspects”.
AC Rowley then developed one of Operation Grange’s favourite hypotheses over the past few years for Madeleine’s disappearance, namely a ‘burglary gone wrong’. He said: “One of the lines of enquiry, one of the hypotheses was: could this be a burglary gone wrong? Someone is doing a burglary, panicked maybe by a waking child, which leads to Madeleine going missing”. The interviewer retorted, very sensibly: “Most burglars would just run out”. AC Rowley, aware that nothing had been stolen from the McCanns’ apartment even if this was a ’burglary gone wrong’, replied with yet another rambling, 200-word answer, and admitted that, three years after identifying three Praia da Luz residents as the possible burglars, “we have pretty much closed off that group of people”.
The arrest and questioning of these three alleged ‘burglars’ was based on records of one mobile telephone call made between two of them lasting 58 seconds at 9.51pm on Thursday 3 May, the night Madeleine was reported missing. This was the one and only piece of evidence against them, and it was achieved after Operation Grange sifted some 11,000 mobile ‘phone records obtained from some 31 countries of people known or thought to have lived in or visited Praia da Luz at the time Madeleine was reported missing. To achieve this, letters had to be sent by Operation Grange to 31 countries to obtain these records, and thousands of man-hours would have been needed to examine them all. The only result of this vast amount of expensive activity was the wrongful arrest of three local Praia da Luz residents.
In my previous letter, I called on you both to, quote:
1. Appoint independent assessors of proven integrity and independence to evaluate the work of Operation Grange, and make its findings public. In this respect, may I remind you of this part of the review’s remit, as determined by DCS Hamish Campbell: “The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness…” Any such report must include a full investigation into the huge involvement in this case of MI5, Special Branch and other government or government-backed security agencies;
2. Appoint, via the new Home Secretary, a different police force, which has the highest possible reputation for integrity and independence, to investigate the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann;
3. Ensure that any new police investigation has an unlimited remit and can therefore go to wherever the evidence leads them;
4. Order the relevant government department to investigate all aspects of the operation of the Find Madeleine Fund, including:-
investigating the actions of all of its Directors,
the funding of the private investigations,
whether or not funds have been used to pay the McCanns’ legal fees and expenses,
why it was necessary for a separate account to be set up last year, to be controlled by the McCanns and not the Directors, and
accounting for all monies paid into and from the Find Madeleine Fund since it was set up in May 2007..
I shall again send this same letter to the new Metropolitan Police Commissioner, Cressida Dick. Again I urge you to seek an urgent meeting with her to discuss the contents of my letter.
In the three years and eight months since a BBC Crimewatch ‘McCann Special’ on Madeleine McCann on 14 October 2013, one of my members, Richard Hall, has produced five documentary films on the case lasting a total of 17 hours. These films have had over 5 million views on YouTube alone. The films developed the evidence that Madeleine did indeed die in the McCanns’ apartment and that Gerry and Kate McCann, with the help of others, hid her body. There are in addition literally hundreds of other YouTube uploads by other Google members which also develop this evidence, many of them having a large number of views.
Another member of mine, a retired police superintendent, has published an e-book documenting in detail the evidence that Madeleine died in the McCanns’ apartment. It has been re-published all over the internet and has been read by hundreds of thousands at least. In these ways, ever more people are realising, in line with what Colin Sutton was told in May 2010, that Operation Grange is a sham investigation which was deliberately designed to cover up what really happened to Madeleine.
It would surely be in your interests to admit that Operation Grange was seriously flawed from the start and must be urgently replaced with a new investigation with an unlimited remit.
Please give this matter your most careful consideration and I shall look forward to your response in the near future.
Yours sincerely
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Jill Havern
For and on behalf of the members of ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’
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Hi Jill,thank you for composing this letter and I hope it receives the"attention " it deserves.
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Re: The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
Let's hope something comes of this letter. A full investigation albeit ten years too late is the least Madeleine deserves.
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Re: The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
You can just see the establishment agreeing to set-up an investigation to investigate an investigation that's already been investigated. That's the sort of convoluted project they love to embrace. Perhaps we could suggest a name and leader..
Operation Strangeways - captained by ex-DCI Redwood or failing that, ex-cop Sutton?
Seriously, I very much look forward to the response - are they allowed to use the f word, can they even spell it?
Operation Strangeways - captained by ex-DCI Redwood or failing that, ex-cop Sutton?
Seriously, I very much look forward to the response - are they allowed to use the f word, can they even spell it?
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I hope a reply is received too , excellent letter, well done Jill.
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Re: The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
Realistically I don't suppose Jill will get any sort of response to her letter. Brush under the carpet comes to mind. I just wish someone in a high position would get involved and try to get the truth out of the tapas 9.
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Theresa May is a bit busy at the mo, isn't she, dealing with all sorts of things and seems a bit out of her depth after the General Election, the Manchester Bomb Attack, the terrorist attacks on London, the Grenfell Tower fire and protests, the dissatisfaction from Police, Fire, NHS, the Brexit shambles etc.
But I'm sure I'll get a reply of sorts, most likely with a paragraph taken from this thread:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13277-who-writes-the-script-for-these-people-mps-the-met-police-the-prime-minister-and-the-home-office-use-exactly-the-same-regurgitated-words-when-answering-letters-about-madeleine-mccann
But at least she'll know we haven't gone away.
But I'm sure I'll get a reply of sorts, most likely with a paragraph taken from this thread:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13277-who-writes-the-script-for-these-people-mps-the-met-police-the-prime-minister-and-the-home-office-use-exactly-the-same-regurgitated-words-when-answering-letters-about-madeleine-mccann
But at least she'll know we haven't gone away.
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Jill, you are absolutely right. I get the impression though that the government is not exactly bothered about solving this case/mystery for whatever reason. It's no wonder the general public have little faith in MPs.
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I've a feeling the reply will be something along the lines of ".......we are not able to comment on an ongoing investigation................"
I sincerely hope I'm wrong.......
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She will never be able to say she didn't know about all the anomalies in this case.Get'emGonçalo wrote:Theresa May is a bit busy at the mo, isn't she, dealing with all sorts of things and seems a bit out of her depth after the General Election, the Manchester Bomb Attack, the terrorist attacks on London, the Grenfell Tower fire and protests, the dissatisfaction from Police, Fire, NHS, the Brexit shambles etc.
But I'm sure I'll get a reply of sorts, most likely with a paragraph taken from this thread:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13277-who-writes-the-script-for-these-people-mps-the-met-police-the-prime-minister-and-the-home-office-use-exactly-the-same-regurgitated-words-when-answering-letters-about-madeleine-mccann
But at least she'll know we haven't gone away.
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Re: The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
Hello Edward Beach and a slightly belated welcome to the forum .Edward Beach wrote:Jill, you are absolutely right. I get the impression though that the government is not exactly bothered about solving this case/mystery for whatever reason. It's no wonder the general public have little faith in MPs.
The case of Madeleine McCann's disappearance shouldn't have anything to do with the government, it's a matter for the police and the police alone.
By all appearances, the government muscle was enlisted within hours of Madeleine's alleged disappearance, solely to intervene with the police and their investigation - in short, to whitewash a very serious crime involving a three year old child. The government very foolishly championed the McCanns and their cries of innocence and now the good people are asking questions and wanting answers, they hide within the corridors of Westminster - their office of circumlocution.
Leicestershire Constabulary was initially the UK liaison force assigned to coordinate with the PJ. Then of a sudden Leicester aren't up to the job, along comes a Prime Minister and a Home Secretary with a blueprint for the Metropolitan Police to take over - not only from Leicester but effectively from the PJ. The rest, as they say, is history.
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Wanna bet?Cmaryholmes wrote:She will never be able to say she didn't know about all the anomalies in this case.Get'emGonçalo wrote:Theresa May is a bit busy at the mo, isn't she, dealing with all sorts of things and seems a bit out of her depth after the General Election, the Manchester Bomb Attack, the terrorist attacks on London, the Grenfell Tower fire and protests, the dissatisfaction from Police, Fire, NHS, the Brexit shambles etc.
But I'm sure I'll get a reply of sorts, most likely with a paragraph taken from this thread:
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t13277-who-writes-the-script-for-these-people-mps-the-met-police-the-prime-minister-and-the-home-office-use-exactly-the-same-regurgitated-words-when-answering-letters-about-madeleine-mccann
But at least she'll know we haven't gone away.
She will though, remember those heady halcyon days of cocktails and fat duck canapés..
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An excellent letter Jill. Let's hope these MPs are learning that the gen. public are getting fed up with their pathetic responses to letters voicing real concerns about this and other issues.
I feel a definite change in people since the failed election. Certainly with the speed that news can be forwarded via internet things will have to change, slowly but surely.
They cannot keep throwing money at this case indefinitely and even if Turkey May doesn't respond then Dick has to respond.
Well done again.
I feel a definite change in people since the failed election. Certainly with the speed that news can be forwarded via internet things will have to change, slowly but surely.
They cannot keep throwing money at this case indefinitely and even if Turkey May doesn't respond then Dick has to respond.
Well done again.
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Jill, wasn't there any CCTV recordings for the holiday period 29th April until 3rd May that might have captured any comings and goings around the Complex. Was there any sighting of the blue bag ? Were there any recordings showing the three children together and dates ?
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From: Ms Jill Havern and members of ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’
[address withheld]
Rt. Hon. Mrs Theresa May
Prime Minister
10 Downing Street
LONDON
SW1A 0AA
Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
Metropolitan Police
8-10 Broadway,
LONDON
SW1H 0BG
Tuesday 13 June 2017
Dear Mr Corbyn and colleagues, and Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
NEW DEVELOPMENTS SINCE September 2016: The conduct of the Operation Grange investigation into the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann
I should like to begin by congratulating you on your election to the leadership of the Labour Party and also on your party’s notable successes in the recent General Election campaign.
I write to you on the controversial issue of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and in particular the highly questionable decision to set up a British police investigation into her disappearance - with a strictly limited remit that, from the start, failed to look at all possibilities, and confined itself only to investigating an ‘abduction’.
This is despite the fact that when the Portuguese investigation was shelved in July 2008, it explicitly declared that they were looking at two distinct alternatives: 1) abduction by a stranger or (2) the parents, the McCanns, having hidden Madeleine’s body to prevent an autopsy, and having staged a hoax abduction.
You may be aware that the British investigation, by the Metropolitan Police under Operation Grange, has spent £13 million on their investigation. It has yielded no new information of significance and has not advanced knowledge of what happened to Madeleine. All we have had for the past six years and one month has been a series of leaks or statements about a large number of highly unlikely suspects, most or all of whom have been ruled out.
You may recall that your Labour Party colleague Lord Toby Harris opposed the setting-up of Operation Grange as soon as it was announced (May 2011). A national newspaper reported at the time that Lord Harris, who was then a member of the Metropolitan Police Authority, wrote on his personal blog: "Whilst no one doubts the desirability of doing what can sensibly be done to find out what has happened to Madeleine McCann, I can imagine that the senior leadership of the Metropolitan Police are not exactly happy about this. It again embroils their officers in a high-profile investigation, where the chances of success are unclear, and which will divert limited investigative resources away from other matters."
The same newspaper also reported the comments of fellow Metropolitan Police Authority member, Jenny Jones, of the Green Party, who described the proposed expenditure by Scotland Yard as “a ludicrous waste of money which would give other victims of crime the chance of justice, while using up valuable police resources”. And so it has proved.
I, along with so many others, invite you, then, to call on the government to end the expensive farce that Operation Grange has become, and set up either (a) a fresh investigation by an independent police force, which should be given an unlimited remit, as per most police investigations, or (b) a full public enquiry into the case.
I refer therefore to my letter to the Prime Minister, sent yesterday (attached), which explains a number of recent developments which substantially strengthen the case for a fresh, unrestricted, investigation, or a full public enquiry into the whole case.
I should explain that my forum, ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’, has over 7,600 members, and that there are dozens of other forums, websites and blogs which share our view that the McCanns must be investigated as to what really happened to their daughter. Scepticism about the McCanns’ version of events is now widespread in British society.
My members include a retired police superintendent, who has written a powerful, fully referenced e-book on the case and an ex-pat British businesswomn, who has made hundreds of popular videos on the case, seen by millions on YouTube. These catalogue all the multiple contradictions in the case and the evidence that Madeleine died in the McCanns’ holiday apartment. My members also include filmmaker Richard D Hall, whose five films on the case, spanning 17 hours of evidence-based documentaries, have been viewed by millions already. All share our view that the McCanns must be investigated.
I hope you will feel able to express support for our call for a fresh investigation or pubic enquiry into this case.
Yours sincerely
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Ms Jill Havern
ENC: Copy of the letter I sent to Theresa May, 12 June 2017
[address withheld]
Rt. Hon. Mrs Theresa May
Prime Minister
10 Downing Street
LONDON
SW1A 0AA
Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
Metropolitan Police
8-10 Broadway,
LONDON
SW1H 0BG
Tuesday 13 June 2017
Dear Mr Corbyn and colleagues, and Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
NEW DEVELOPMENTS SINCE September 2016: The conduct of the Operation Grange investigation into the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann
I should like to begin by congratulating you on your election to the leadership of the Labour Party and also on your party’s notable successes in the recent General Election campaign.
I write to you on the controversial issue of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and in particular the highly questionable decision to set up a British police investigation into her disappearance - with a strictly limited remit that, from the start, failed to look at all possibilities, and confined itself only to investigating an ‘abduction’.
This is despite the fact that when the Portuguese investigation was shelved in July 2008, it explicitly declared that they were looking at two distinct alternatives: 1) abduction by a stranger or (2) the parents, the McCanns, having hidden Madeleine’s body to prevent an autopsy, and having staged a hoax abduction.
You may be aware that the British investigation, by the Metropolitan Police under Operation Grange, has spent £13 million on their investigation. It has yielded no new information of significance and has not advanced knowledge of what happened to Madeleine. All we have had for the past six years and one month has been a series of leaks or statements about a large number of highly unlikely suspects, most or all of whom have been ruled out.
You may recall that your Labour Party colleague Lord Toby Harris opposed the setting-up of Operation Grange as soon as it was announced (May 2011). A national newspaper reported at the time that Lord Harris, who was then a member of the Metropolitan Police Authority, wrote on his personal blog: "Whilst no one doubts the desirability of doing what can sensibly be done to find out what has happened to Madeleine McCann, I can imagine that the senior leadership of the Metropolitan Police are not exactly happy about this. It again embroils their officers in a high-profile investigation, where the chances of success are unclear, and which will divert limited investigative resources away from other matters."
The same newspaper also reported the comments of fellow Metropolitan Police Authority member, Jenny Jones, of the Green Party, who described the proposed expenditure by Scotland Yard as “a ludicrous waste of money which would give other victims of crime the chance of justice, while using up valuable police resources”. And so it has proved.
I, along with so many others, invite you, then, to call on the government to end the expensive farce that Operation Grange has become, and set up either (a) a fresh investigation by an independent police force, which should be given an unlimited remit, as per most police investigations, or (b) a full public enquiry into the case.
I refer therefore to my letter to the Prime Minister, sent yesterday (attached), which explains a number of recent developments which substantially strengthen the case for a fresh, unrestricted, investigation, or a full public enquiry into the whole case.
I should explain that my forum, ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’, has over 7,600 members, and that there are dozens of other forums, websites and blogs which share our view that the McCanns must be investigated as to what really happened to their daughter. Scepticism about the McCanns’ version of events is now widespread in British society.
My members include a retired police superintendent, who has written a powerful, fully referenced e-book on the case and an ex-pat British businesswomn, who has made hundreds of popular videos on the case, seen by millions on YouTube. These catalogue all the multiple contradictions in the case and the evidence that Madeleine died in the McCanns’ holiday apartment. My members also include filmmaker Richard D Hall, whose five films on the case, spanning 17 hours of evidence-based documentaries, have been viewed by millions already. All share our view that the McCanns must be investigated.
I hope you will feel able to express support for our call for a fresh investigation or pubic enquiry into this case.
Yours sincerely
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Ms Jill Havern
ENC: Copy of the letter I sent to Theresa May, 12 June 2017
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Re: The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
Have you received an acknowledgement yet ? Or is the premier busy climbing out of that very large hole she's dug for herself..Get'emGonçalo wrote:From: Ms Jill Havern and members of ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’
[address withheld]
Rt. Hon. Mrs Theresa May
Prime Minister
10 Downing Street
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Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
Metropolitan Police
8-10 Broadway,
LONDON
SW1H 0BG
Tuesday 13 June 2017
Dear Mr Corbyn and colleagues, and Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
NEW DEVELOPMENTS SINCE September 2016: The conduct of the Operation Grange investigation into the reported disappearance of Madeleine McCann
I should like to begin by congratulating you on your election to the leadership of the Labour Party and also on your party’s notable successes in the recent General Election campaign.
I write to you on the controversial issue of the disappearance of Madeleine McCann and in particular the highly questionable decision to set up a British police investigation into her disappearance - with a strictly limited remit that, from the start, failed to look at all possibilities, and confined itself only to investigating an ‘abduction’.
This is despite the fact that when the Portuguese investigation was shelved in July 2008, it explicitly declared that they were looking at two distinct alternatives: 1) abduction by a stranger or (2) the parents, the McCanns, having hidden Madeleine’s body to prevent an autopsy, and having staged a hoax abduction.
You may be aware that the British investigation, by the Metropolitan Police under Operation Grange, has spent £13 million on their investigation. It has yielded no new information of significance and has not advanced knowledge of what happened to Madeleine. All we have had for the past six years and one month has been a series of leaks or statements about a large number of highly unlikely suspects, most or all of whom have been ruled out.
You may recall that your Labour Party colleague Lord Toby Harris opposed the setting-up of Operation Grange as soon as it was announced (May 2011). A national newspaper reported at the time that Lord Harris, who was then a member of the Metropolitan Police Authority, wrote on his personal blog: "Whilst no one doubts the desirability of doing what can sensibly be done to find out what has happened to Madeleine McCann, I can imagine that the senior leadership of the Metropolitan Police are not exactly happy about this. It again embroils their officers in a high-profile investigation, where the chances of success are unclear, and which will divert limited investigative resources away from other matters."
The same newspaper also reported the comments of fellow Metropolitan Police Authority member, Jenny Jones, of the Green Party, who described the proposed expenditure by Scotland Yard as “a ludicrous waste of money which would give other victims of crime the chance of justice, while using up valuable police resources”. And so it has proved.
I, along with so many others, invite you, then, to call on the government to end the expensive farce that Operation Grange has become, and set up either (a) a fresh investigation by an independent police force, which should be given an unlimited remit, as per most police investigations, or (b) a full public enquiry into the case.
I refer therefore to my letter to the Prime Minister, sent yesterday (attached), which explains a number of recent developments which substantially strengthen the case for a fresh, unrestricted, investigation, or a full public enquiry into the whole case.
I should explain that my forum, ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’, has over 7,600 members, and that there are dozens of other forums, websites and blogs which share our view that the McCanns must be investigated as to what really happened to their daughter. Scepticism about the McCanns’ version of events is now widespread in British society.
My members include a retired police superintendent, who has written a powerful, fully referenced e-book on the case and an ex-pat British businesswomn, who has made hundreds of popular videos on the case, seen by millions on YouTube. These catalogue all the multiple contradictions in the case and the evidence that Madeleine died in the McCanns’ holiday apartment. My members also include filmmaker Richard D Hall, whose five films on the case, spanning 17 hours of evidence-based documentaries, have been viewed by millions already. All share our view that the McCanns must be investigated.
I hope you will feel able to express support for our call for a fresh investigation or pubic enquiry into this case.
Yours sincerely
_______________________
Ms Jill Havern
ENC: Copy of the letter I sent to Theresa May, 12 June 2017
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Letter posted 12th June 2017 - that's fast approaching one month.
Any acknowledgement yet?
Any acknowledgement yet?
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Why do people think the PM reads mails from the public?
She has a whole team of people who deals with this.
She gets thousands of letters a day.
This will not cross her desk.
I have sent letters a number of times over the years to various PMs. Always get a reply from a secretary with a standard answer.
I changed tactics once. I asked my MP to ask the PM, which he did!
He sent me the "PM" reply from a secretary with a standard answer.
She has a whole team of people who deals with this.
She gets thousands of letters a day.
This will not cross her desk.
I have sent letters a number of times over the years to various PMs. Always get a reply from a secretary with a standard answer.
I changed tactics once. I asked my MP to ask the PM, which he did!
He sent me the "PM" reply from a secretary with a standard answer.
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The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
From: Ms Jill Havern and members of ‘The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann’
[address withheld]
Rt. Hon. Mrs Theresa May
Prime Minister
10 Downing Street
LONDON
W1A 1AA
Commissioner Ms Cressida Dick
This is an excellent letter, but no official inquiry, not even by a royal commission, ever has an "unlimited remit". Often it's precisely the remit that the biggest fight is over, as powerful interests battle to ensure that it covers or does not cover certain specified areas. The reason that governments never instruct inquiries with unlimited remit is fear of what investigators might decide they want to look at. It's a question of "Go this far, but no further", and "You're important, you're a High Court judge or a peer, but these strings you must NOT pull on - got that?" Thus for example to this day Prince Philip is rarely mentioned in connection with what was called the Profumo affair.
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Maybe Donald Trump would be interested to read the letter...
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It's taken one month to come up with that?
10 Downing Street >> Home Office >> Scotland Yard >> Operation Grange >> broom cupboard >> shredder ....
The office of circumlocution - it was to be expected.
10 Downing Street >> Home Office >> Scotland Yard >> Operation Grange >> broom cupboard >> shredder ....
The office of circumlocution - it was to be expected.
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Do we have to wait for the music to stop so someone can open the parcel ?
It'll be like hanging on the phone while the music plays , occasionally being interrupted by " All our handlers are busy at the moment , your call/ letter is important to us "
Maybe soon we'll get an answer from a person not a machine .
Anyone for a game of " Pin the tail on the patsy/donkey " Operation Grange have been playing it for years !
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Re: The letters to the Prime Minister and Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick were posted on Tuesday (12 June) and I am awaiting replies which I shall post here. I have also sent a copy to the Leader of the Opposition, Jeremy Corbyn.
Here's a couple more acknowledgement letters
The knockers and the mockers will deride all this as a waste of time.
But...
We don't just talk - we ACT
The letter tells the world that 'The Complete Mystery of Madeleine McCann' keeps on pressing the authorities about the obvious problems with Operation Grange
Many staff in 10 Downing Street, the Home Office, in Operation Grange and probably elsewhere like MI5 will read the letter, and be forced to discuss it
Their consciences will undoubtedly be troubled, even if only slightly, and temporarily, and
When the truth comes out, our letters (and all those that PeterMac has sent, and others) will be available for the world to see that the British authorities were told that there was a cover up, were given proofs that Operation Grange was a con...and did nothing about it for the sake of justice for three-year-old Madeleine Beth McCann who died in Praia da Luz ten years ago, her little body concealed goodness knows where, and her parents staged her abduction and went on to make millions of pounds out of her.
Please be sure to let everyone know - and ignore the sneerers who dismiss these letters as a waste of time.
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Not a waste of time at all, I applaud all those who have taken the time to write and highlight the many points outlined in your letters.
As you say, to date, the powers that be have done nothing to help a little girl & it's all there for the public to see in the future. These letters are highly important.
As you say, to date, the powers that be have done nothing to help a little girl & it's all there for the public to see in the future. These letters are highly important.
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It'll be like telling a jury in a court of law to disregard something said.
Once read, never forgotten !!! They might decline to satisfactorily respond but they can't ignore public abhorrence at the way the establishment has so readily brushed aside the probable death of a little three year old soul.
This ain't going to go away just because that's what the authorities want.
Once read, never forgotten !!! They might decline to satisfactorily respond but they can't ignore public abhorrence at the way the establishment has so readily brushed aside the probable death of a little three year old soul.
This ain't going to go away just because that's what the authorities want.
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They are happy enough to spend £12 million of taxpayers money on a farce of an " investigation "
Yet when those taxpayers dare to question how that money has been spent and why they have found nothing they are not happy to give us an answer !
Like Verdi says this ain't going to go away ! Too many people asking questions , too many people who no longer believe what the media tells them . Too many people who want justice for Madeleine .
Yet when those taxpayers dare to question how that money has been spent and why they have found nothing they are not happy to give us an answer !
Like Verdi says this ain't going to go away ! Too many people asking questions , too many people who no longer believe what the media tells them . Too many people who want justice for Madeleine .
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There will of course be a convenient clause, or some other reason for not investigating the Operation Grange investigation that should, by rights, have been based on the Portuguese investigation but that will never appease public interest nor will it ever exonerate the establishment for their total lack of transparency.
There will be a get-out - there always is. However, in the case of Madeleine McCann, the establishment owe it to the tax payer to explain why they have frittered away well in excess of 12 million quid on a bogus review-investigation. For that is what Operation Grange is - AC Mark Rowley said so in not so many words.
Unless of course there was/is no such Operation as Grange in existence ....
The plot thickens - more questions and still no answers. Would they really indefinitely continue a fake review/investigation knowing full well that there will never ever be a satisfactory conclusion?
Food for thought?
There will be a get-out - there always is. However, in the case of Madeleine McCann, the establishment owe it to the tax payer to explain why they have frittered away well in excess of 12 million quid on a bogus review-investigation. For that is what Operation Grange is - AC Mark Rowley said so in not so many words.
Unless of course there was/is no such Operation as Grange in existence ....
The plot thickens - more questions and still no answers. Would they really indefinitely continue a fake review/investigation knowing full well that there will never ever be a satisfactory conclusion?
Food for thought?
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Hi GoGetemGoncalo,in reply to Stuart Cundy's reply!
yes the Metropolitan Police Service did bring about a"Special Expertise"to Operation Grange,set up under the careful watch of its leaders,eh Sir Bernard Hogan Howe,DCI Hamish Campbell,DCI Andy Redwood and now left to Assistant Commander Mark Rowley,"This was all dealt with by the Original Inquiry"Not?
Care to pass comment,Metropolitan Police Service Cressida Dick, just what was this"Special Expertise"to Not investigate any persons thought to have been in close contact with the missing child,Madeleine McCann,reported as missing by her parents to the Portugal PJ 3 May 2007?
yes the Metropolitan Police Service did bring about a"Special Expertise"to Operation Grange,set up under the careful watch of its leaders,eh Sir Bernard Hogan Howe,DCI Hamish Campbell,DCI Andy Redwood and now left to Assistant Commander Mark Rowley,"This was all dealt with by the Original Inquiry"Not?
Care to pass comment,Metropolitan Police Service Cressida Dick, just what was this"Special Expertise"to Not investigate any persons thought to have been in close contact with the missing child,Madeleine McCann,reported as missing by her parents to the Portugal PJ 3 May 2007?
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