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The continuing love affair between Jim Gamble of CEOP and Dr Gerry McCann

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The continuing love affair between Jim Gamble of CEOP and Dr Gerry McCann

Post by Tony Bennett on 10.12.09 23:50

Remember the 'Minute for Madeleine' video which zipped around the world like lightning, courtesy of the internet?

It was distributed by the police - or rather by CEOP (Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre) - and featured Madeleine McCann whom, said the CEOP video, had definitely been abducted.

Remember also the top secret CEOP manuals found in the McCanns' villa by the police in July. Who gave then those?

Now these two (Jim Gamble and Dr Gerald McCann) have teamed up again - see bolding in red below:

Sexually-motivated child abductions: A One Day Conference

Tuesday 26 January 2010

School of Oriental and African Studies, Bloomsbury, London

“The abduction of a child is a tragedy. No one can fully understand or appreciate what a parent goes through at such a time, unless they have faced a similar tragedy.”

John Walsh, father of six year old Adam Walsh who was abducted and murdered in 1981; co-founder of the US National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (NCMEC); campaigner for ‘The Adam Walsh Child Protection and Safety Act’ passed in the USA in 2006.

Introduction

The stereotypical, high profile incidents of child abduction play into every parent’s worst nightmare and often result in media attention and public hysteria. Whilst the names of those children and offenders alike are engrained within our collective consciousness, these cases are mercifully very rare. Indeed, parental disputes resulting in the abduction of a child by one parent still make up the majority of abduction cases per se.

However, throughout the spectrum of child abduction cases, each presents unique challenges for the professionals involved in their investigation and the aftermath, particularly given the emotive nature of the crime and requirements to heavily invest resources (technical, personnel, financial and forensics) early in the investigation, which have the potential to overwhelm the best prepared investigator or agency.

Technology has opened up an exciting new world for children where they can escape the watchful eyes of the adults charged with their protection and indeed, the use of these technologies simultaneously brings both opportunity and risks for children.

Developments in technology have allowed children access to uncensored material and information that can influence their behaviour and there is growing evidence to suggest viewing certain types of material may influence their sexual developmental trajectories. Through a growing variety of technologies, children have begun to push boundaries as part of their natural social, emotional and sexual development.

Whilst the opportunities afforded by mobile and internet technology vastly outweigh these risks, they are nevertheless real. Indeed, as in the real, physical world, there are areas online that young people frequent, which will be attractive to those who seek to corrupt and exploit vulnerable children and young people for their own sexual gratification. Consequently, the online grooming of children became so concerning that new UK legislation had to be introduced in an attempt to protect them. Despite these preventative measures, offenders are still using an array of technologies and strategies to groom children with a view to abusing them virtually, by way of inciting a child to commit sexual acts to be captured on still images of webcam or indeed, to prepare children for an offline meeting.

This type of behaviour is becoming more common as a precursor to child abduction.

Conference objectives

This one day conference will explore the issues associated with a variety of child abduction cases, predominantly focussing on sexually motivated stranger abductions.

By using a combination of recent research, operational case studies and offender debriefs, this conference seeks to identify pertinent issues for any such investigation.

Benefits to the delegate

Delegates attending this conference will gain the following:

an understanding of the link between online grooming and child abduction;
an insight into how child abduction is dealt with by US law enforcement agencies; and
an insight into the UK perspective on dealing with child abduction.

Agenda
09:00 Registration
09:30 Welcome: Jim Gamble, Chief Executive, Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre
09.45 Multiple case research: Jim O. Beasley III, Supervisory Special Agent, Federal Bureau of Investigation
10.30 An holistic approach: Adam Gregory, Senior Behavioural Investigative Adviser, National Policing Improvement Agency
11:00 Break
11.30 Operation Paris – the Shannon Matthews investigation: Detective Superintendent Andy Brennan, Detective Inspector Andy Walker, West Yorkshire Police
12:30 Lunch
13.30 False allegations of abduction: William Donaldson, Supervisory Special Agent, Federal Bureau of Investigation
14:30 Break
14.45 Insight from the minds of child abductors: Detective Chief Superintendent Graham Hill, Dr Joe Sullivan, Consultant Chartered Psychologist, Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre
16.00 Closing speech: Gerry McCann
16.30 Questions and answers session: All speakers
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 0:02

Can't see what's wrong or suspicious of that.

Anyway you stated : "Remember also the top secret CEOP manuals found in the McCanns' villa by the police in July."

Where can I find information about that in the released DVD files?
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What were those top secret, classified CEOP manuals doing in the McCanns' villa?

Post by Tony Bennett on 11.12.09 0:09

Molly wrote:You stated: "Remember also the top secret CEOP manuals found in the McCanns' villa by the police in July".

Where can I find information about that in the released DVD files?
A lot of the information you want on his subject is here:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/exclusive-new-videos-madeleine-mccann.html
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 8:31

The continuing love affair between Jim Gamble of CEOP and Dr Gerry McCann??????
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 9:34

@Tony Bennett wrote:
Molly wrote:You stated: "Remember also the top secret CEOP manuals found in the McCanns' villa by the police in July".

Where can I find information about that in the released DVD files?
A lot of the information you want on his subject is here:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/exclusive-new-videos-madeleine-mccann.html

The Joana Morais blog is not a source. The DVD file is, so where is this information in that file?
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PJ footage of the confidential CEOP manuals is at 53 seconds on the first video on the link I sent

Post by Tony Bennett on 11.12.09 9:47

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@Tony Bennett wrote:
Molly wrote:You stated: "Remember also the top secret CEOP manuals found in the McCanns' villa by the police in July".

Where can I find information about that in the released DVD files?
A lot of the information you want on his subject is here:

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/09/exclusive-new-videos-madeleine-mccann.html

The Joana Morais blog is not a source. The DVD file is, so where is this information in that file?
Look at the first video, from 0.53 secs to 1 minute. There you will see PJ footage of the CEOP manuals at the McCanns' villa, along with such holiday reading as 'The Interpretation of Murder'.
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 11:18

Are you asserting that this manual was there before or after Madeleine's disappearance Mr Bennett?

Kids all over the world sing Mr Gamble and his team's praises because they have been rescued from porn. That is something to be proud of isn't it Mr Bennett?
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Sources needed for the claim that 'kids all over the world sing Jim Gamble's praises'

Post by Tony Bennett on 11.12.09 11:35

Raffle wrote:Kids all over the world sing Mr Gamble and his team's praises because they have been rescued from porn.
Sources please.
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 11:41

@Tony Bennett wrote:
Raffle wrote:Kids all over the world sing Mr Gamble and his team's praises because they have been rescued from porn.
Sources please.
Have a look through here, about 2 and a half thousand of them

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=navclient&gfns=1&q=shy+keenan+jim+gamble

and here is another one. Did you know that BILL GATES helped Jim Gamble and hundreds and hundreds of kids? Will he be the next recipient of a letter? thinking

http://www.microsoft.com/industry/publicsector/government/cetsnews.mspx
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Post by Ruby on 11.12.09 11:46

i think you have posted the wrong link. this google search does not back up what you have just said.
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 11:48

Stop embarrassing yourself Mr Bennett the parents of a missing child being interested in how missing children are found is perfectly natural, in the same way as one might expect someone with a diagnosis of an illness to develop an interest in that illness, various treatments and side effects and whatnot, cause and effect Mr Bennett, context Mr Bennett, normal human reactions to a crisis Mr Bennett, I know these are all things that confuse you but try not to confuse others, there's a good chap.
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 11:51

The CEOP were involved in profiling the offender when it became obvious the local police were useless.

Things like has anything similar happened before in the surrounding area were asked. I wonder if they told CEOP about the seven break-ins which resulted in kids being molested in their beds? Probably forgot about that though (in the name of tourism).
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Who gave the McCanns the secret CEOP Manuals?

Post by Tony Bennett on 11.12.09 11:54

clarity wrote:Stop embarrassing yourself Mr Bennett the parents of a missing child being interested in how missing children are found is perfectly natural, in the same way as one might expect someone with a diagnosis of an illness to develop an interest in that illness, various treatments and side effects and whatnot, cause and effect Mr Bennett, context Mr Bennett, normal human reactions to a crisis Mr Bennett, I know these are all things that confuse you but try not to confuse others, there's a good chap.
How did they get these manuals?

From an 'insider' in the British police or CEOP or the British Consulate?

They didn't borrow them from the Praia da Luz public library, that's for sure.
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 11:58

@Tony Bennett wrote:
clarity wrote:Stop embarrassing yourself Mr Bennett the parents of a missing child being interested in how missing children are found is perfectly natural, in the same way as one might expect someone with a diagnosis of an illness to develop an interest in that illness, various treatments and side effects and whatnot, cause and effect Mr Bennett, context Mr Bennett, normal human reactions to a crisis Mr Bennett, I know these are all things that confuse you but try not to confuse others, there's a good chap.
How did they get these manuals?

From an 'insider' in the British police or CEOP or the British Consulate?



They didn't borrow them from the Praia da Luz publiclibrary, that's for sure.

The CEOP were involved, I just said that further up.

Please don't tell me you thought they had either brought them on holiday with them or borrowed them from a library? seriously???????????????????????
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 12:00

Their child had been reported abducted they were surrounded by police and experts in missing children, abductions and child murders etc, essentially inundated with information from who knows how many sources, the internet, friends and family being useful, the portuguese police and detectives, the british detectives, people from the media, the list goes on.

Why do you think it's unusual for a people in this situation to be informed about their own situation?

Do you think it would be wrong for people to be informed? Specifically, having seen the McCanns in action for the past two and half years do you think it seems out of character for them to have been proactive about their daughters disappearance?
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 12:07

As far as I can ascertain, the video Bennett is referring to is an edited video published by a newspaper - not the official PJ video, if such exists.

There is nothing that suggests these manuals are "secret." In fact at least one of the publications can be downloaded at CEOP's site. Like this one : "A Scoping Project on Child Trafficking in the UK - June 2007"

There's also :

"Every Five Minutes : A review of the available data on missing children in the UK"
"Missing and Abducted Children : A law enforcement guide to Case Investigations and Program Management"

http://www.ceop.gov.uk/publications/research.asp
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Post by Tony Bennett on 11.12.09 12:11

clarity wrote:Specifically, having seen the McCanns in action for the past two and half years, do you think it seems out of character for them to have been proactive about their daughter's disappearance?
Just how 'proactive' was Dr Kate McCann on Day 1 of the investigation when she was asked to attend the local police station to view a CCTV video of what might well have been her missing daughter at a garage?

I suppose you've got a good answer for why she was so reluctant to go and view it?
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 12:14

@Tony Bennett wrote:
clarity wrote:Specifically, having seen the McCanns in action for the past two and half years, do you think it seems out of character for them to have been proactive about their daughter's disappearance?
Just how 'proactive' was Dr Kate McCann on Day 1 of the investigation when she was asked to attend the local police station to view a CCTV video of what might well have been her missing daughter at a garage?

I suppose you've got a good answer for why she was so reluctant to go and view it?

I have no idea what you are talking about, could you explain, are you asserting that she refused to go and watch some cctv?

And what does this have to do with your original assertion that there is something suspicious about a family of a missing child being interested in how missing children are found?
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 12:16

@Tony Bennett wrote:
clarity wrote:Specifically, having seen the McCanns in action for the past two and half years, do you think it seems out of character for them to have been proactive about their daughter's disappearance?
Just how 'proactive' was Dr Kate McCann on Day 1 of the investigation when she was asked to attend the local police station to view a CCTV video of what might well have been her missing daughter a garage?

I suppose you've got a good answer for why she was so reluctant to go and view it?
You would have to ask her that question. It's no good asking someone on an internet forum. It would be like me asking you why nutty Butler does what she does................
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 12:21

To do you a favour, knowing how loath you are to provide evidence of your frankly usually barmy, ill informed assertions, are you referring to notes allegedly taken from Kate McCanns diary and published in the portuguese media when she wrote:


"We got a phone call from the PJ saying that we had to return. We turned around and returned at 200 kilometres per hour. Scary once again" "The GNR appeared without being certain of their role – they seemed to be doing nothing"

Could you explain to me what part of that sentence are you interpreting as Kate Mccann being reluctant to go and view CCTV?

TIA.
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Time to end all the abuse on Jill Havern's forum. Starting with 'clarity'

Post by Tony Bennett on 11.12.09 12:34

clarity wrote:To do you a favour, knowing how loath you are to provide evidence of your frankly usually barmy, ill informed assertions...
Abusive message which will therefore receive no reply.
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Post by Guest on 11.12.09 12:38

@Tony Bennett wrote:
clarity wrote:To do you a favour, knowing how loath you are to provide evidence of your frankly usually barmy, ill informed assertions...
Abusive message which will therefore receive no reply.

Does the truth hurt Mr Bennett, how convenient that you decide to skulk away when you have been caught out on yet another untruth.

And you hardly have the moral highground as one of the first times you were caught out spreading misinformation you made fun of my name 'clarity' and instead suggested that I was muddying the waters, which was somewhat ironic considering the circumstances as well as not being all that funny.

Anyway it doesn't much matter if you come back with another slithering reply or not, the important thing is that people who read this forum know that you were twisting something to fit your own preconceived theories, none of which hold water, I don't expect you ever to learn, you never did before, they might though, there is still hope for them.
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Post by preciousramotswe on 11.12.09 12:40

Would these 'top secret' CEOP manuals be the ones that can be downloaded as a PDF from their site for free and ordered for a small payment, respectively?

As was discovered, and posted, by a 3As poster on that site, on a thread which if memory serves me right Tony Bennett was actually on at the time?

I am sick of the lies and spin from certain quarters.

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Post by preciousramotswe on 11.12.09 12:46

@Tony Bennett wrote:
clarity wrote:Stop embarrassing yourself Mr Bennett the parents of a missing child being interested in how missing children are found is perfectly natural, in the same way as one might expect someone with a diagnosis of an illness to develop an interest in that illness, various treatments and side effects and whatnot, cause and effect Mr Bennett, context Mr Bennett, normal human reactions to a crisis Mr Bennett, I know these are all things that confuse you but try not to confuse others, there's a good chap.
How did they get these manuals?

From an 'insider' in the British police or CEOP or the British Consulate?

They didn't borrow them from the Praia da Luz publiclibrary, that's for sure.

Anyone can get them if they want. They can be downloaded as a PDF or purchased for a small sum.

They are not secret in any shape or form, that is a deliberate lie put about by certain people in the PJ and one which I find totally unforgiveable.

When people here choose to repeat it because it suits their sick agenda they just show themselves up.

And I don't care what Mark Harrison is 'supposed' to have said about it either.

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Post by Tony Bennett on 11.12.09 13:25

clarity wrote:
@Tony Bennett wrote:
clarity wrote:To do you a favour, knowing how loath you are to provide evidence of your frankly usually barmy, ill informed assertions...
Abusive message which will therefore receive no reply.

Does the truth hurt Mr Bennett, how convenient that you decide to skulk away when you have been caught out on yet another untruth.

And you hardly have the moral highground as one of the first times you were caught out spreading misinformation you made fun of my name 'clarity' and instead suggested that I was muddying the waters, which was somewhat ironic considering the circumstances as well as not being all that funny.

Anyway it doesn't much matter if you come back with another slithering reply or not, the important thing is that people who read this forum know that you were twisting something to fit your own preconceived theories, none of which hold water, I don't expect you ever to learn, you never did before, they might though, there is still hope for them.
Simply confirming that you are not capable of polite debate but resort to abuse all the time. As the forum-owner herself has said, persoanl abuse should have no place on this forum.
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