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Post by Liz Eagles 27.10.14 14:45

Dont Make Me Laff wrote:
aquila wrote:Continue to question Jim Gamble, the McCann hero.

Continue to question his motive.

Continue to question why Jim Gamble has a voice.

And please, please, please someone on Twitter ask Jim Gamble why he's showing himself on a podium between the flags of UK and US with a backdrop photograph of Table Mountain, Cape Town....please, someone ask him.

@ Brian  - (quote) I'm surprised they aren't trying to sue God for sending 'Hurricane Gonzalo' to our shores!
DMML - I did mention This recent hurricane recently on the forum and was stone walled -  I wondered who decided on the name... I have my own reasons for wondering. But not sure if I should post same.

@ Aquila - You or someone has asked before an explanation ref JG on his podium betwixt 2 flags, and wonder if YOU have a theory? I personally don't do twitter but I am curious as to your curiosity
Most people on this forum who have been here for a long time can see people who disrupt.

You DMML are a disruptor - you know it - and so do many others.
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Post by Snifferdog 27.10.14 14:47

Yes what does that mean? The Us and UK flags with Table mountain as a backdrop? What i do know is that the child slave trade is a burgeoning business in S Africa. Some parents being quite happy to sell off their children. A bit like what JG experienced in Thailand I suppose.

Also interesting to me are the other connections to South Africa in this case.
Stephen Birch, who featured a lot in the news at some stage. Then we had the other marvellous machine that was reputed to be able to pinpoint an area where a corpse could be found. It so reminds me of the Arade dam mcscam.

I do know that there is an ongoing investigation into child pornography, sexual abuse and trafficking, with info being shared with other countries such as The Netherlands.

Imo the paedophile network is massive, worldwide. I doubt there is a single country who does not have a link to this very powerful network. It's a global problem, needing a world wide investigation - from the rarified lofty heights of the titled, moneyed and zleb, through the various "layers" in society, down to the poorest - but the big question is - are there enough "independent" investigators around whom one can trust? I doubt it.

So perhaps JG will be setting his cap for South Africa - to investigate, and "test the system", to see how bad it is, as he did when he asked for a very young child in a brothel in Thailand, and to show just how easy it all is.

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Post by Dont Make Me Laff 27.10.14 14:50

I am sorry that you feel that way Aquila. I can assure you that I have no intention of Disrupting any thing. I joined this site because I do not believe the McCann's. 
I respect a great many of the posts on this site and like it or not, I respect your immensely.

If you feel that I am a disrupter perhaps you would like to enlighten me as to your conclusion? And so as NOT to derail this thread and I therefore invite you to PM me with you reasons?
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff 27.10.14 14:54

Snifferdog wrote:Yes what does that mean? The Us and UK flags with Table mountain as a backdrop? What i do know is that the child slave trade is a burgeoning business in S Africa. Some parents being quite happy to sell off their children. A bit like what JG experienced in Thailand I suppose.

Also interesting to me are the other connections to South Africa in this case.
Stephen Birch, who featured a lot in the news at some stage. Then we had the other marvellous machine that was reputed to be able to pinpoint an area where a corpse could be found. It so reminds me of the Arade dam mcscam.

I do know that there is an ongoing investigation into child pornography, sexual abuse and trafficking, with info being shared with other countries such as The Netherlands.

Imo the paedophile network is massive, worldwide. I doubt there is a single country who does not have a link to this very powerful network. It's a global problem, needing a world wide investigation - from the rarified lofty heights of the titled, moneyed and zleb, through the various "layers" in society, down to the poorest - but the big question is - are there enough "independent" investigators around whom one can trust? I doubt it.

So perhaps JG will be setting his cap for South Africa - to investigate, and "test the system", to see how bad it is, as he did when he asked for a very young child in a brothel in Thailand, and to show just how easy it all is.

All Imo.
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Post by Liz Eagles 27.10.14 14:59

Dont Make Me Laff wrote:I am sorry that you feel that way Aquila. I can assure you that I have no intention of Disrupting any thing. I joined this site because I do not believe the McCann's. 
I respect a great many of the posts on this site and like it or not, I respect your immensely.

If you feel that I am a disrupter perhaps you would like to enlighten me as to your conclusion? And so as NOT to derail this thread and I therefore invite you to PM me with you reasons?
Another thread de-railed by you.

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Post by Guest 27.10.14 15:00

aquila wrote:Continue to question Jim Gamble, the McCann hero.

Continue to question his motive.

Continue to question why Jim Gamble has a voice.

And please, please, please someone on Twitter ask Jim Gamble why he's showing himself on a podium between the flags of UK and US with a backdrop photograph of Table Mountain, Cape Town....please, someone ask him.

Yes, agree with you Aquila, and as long as JG continues to let everyone know his opinions on TV, radio, and twitter then he should be challenged.  Dodgy individual, IMO.

Another issue re JG is his cosy relationship with Stephen Nolan on Radio 5 Live (I presume that's the NI connection), and the BBC generally.  Can't they find another person to comment on child protection issues, or is JG the only "expert" available?
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Post by Liz Eagles 27.10.14 15:15

Cosy is the word LadyinRed.

Jim Gamble loves Northern Ireland - his photographs and tweets are full of it.

Funny that he pictures himself on his Twitter page betwixt the flags of UK and US with a backdrop of Table Mountain, South Africa.

Jim Gamble's own tweets (he mostly re-tweets) are all about Northern Ireland. His photographs are all about Northern Ireland.
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Post by Guest 27.10.14 15:36

Yep, he's certainly an International Man of Mystery!

ETA: is that a poppy he's added to his picture?
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff 27.10.14 15:42

aquila wrote:Cosy is the word LadyinRed.

Jim Gamble loves Northern Ireland - his photographs and tweets are full of it.

Funny that he pictures himself on his Twitter page betwixt the flags of UK and US with a backdrop of Table Mountain, South Africa.

Jim Gamble's own tweets (he mostly re-tweets) are all about Northern Ireland. His photographs are all about Northern Ireland.
If you are going to berate me - please Don't quote me  betwixt the flags of UK and US
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Post by Liz Eagles 27.10.14 15:47

Dont Make Me Laff wrote:
aquila wrote:Cosy is the word LadyinRed.

Jim Gamble loves Northern Ireland - his photographs and tweets are full of it.

Funny that he pictures himself on his Twitter page betwixt the flags of UK and US with a backdrop of Table Mountain, South Africa.

Jim Gamble's own tweets (he mostly re-tweets) are all about Northern Ireland. His photographs are all about Northern Ireland.
If you are going to berate me - please Don't quote me  betwixt the flags of UK and US
I seriously hope you sod off DMML. You contribute nothing. I hope Admin release you from your torment.
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Post by Dont Make Me Laff 27.10.14 15:51

aquila wrote:
Dont Make Me Laff wrote:
aquila wrote:Cosy is the word LadyinRed.

Jim Gamble loves Northern Ireland - his photographs and tweets are full of it.

Funny that he pictures himself on his Twitter page betwixt the flags of UK and US with a backdrop of Table Mountain, South Africa.

Jim Gamble's own tweets (he mostly re-tweets) are all about Northern Ireland. His photographs are all about Northern Ireland.
If you are going to berate me - please Don't quote me  betwixt the flags of UK and US
I seriously hope you sod off DMML. You contribute nothing. I hope Admin release you from your torme
AUUILA - quote - I seriously hope you sod off DMML. You contribute nothing. I hope Admin release you from your torment  
Based on what grounds FREEDOM OF SPEECH???
perhaps you don't have the courage to look at your PM ? but insist this conversation continues openly and YOU derail the thread as you accuse me
go to Private Message and YOU STOP DERAILING and STOP ACCUSING me please.
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Post by Liz Eagles 27.10.14 15:55

Ladyinred wrote:Aquila - do you know if JG has any SA connections?
No, I don't. All I've seen on his Twitter page is that he's aligned himself with AFRUCA (and that's not South Africa). He has an introduction to the Table Mountain photograph without an explanation. I find it weird which is why I hope someone asks him what his reason is for using this photograph as a backdrop to his profile....I hope someone asks him because if he has no other reason for this photograph than he happens to like the place it does make him seem rather bloody shallow at the very least - given that he's posted a lovely photograph of himself on a podium between the flags of UK and USA. That's a bit of a trades description issue if you ask me.

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Post by Guest 27.10.14 16:00

AFRUCA - Africans Unite against Child Abuse.

www.afruca.org/

AFRUCA Summit on African Children and Families in London 2014


Safeguarding Our Children, Engaging Our Community

Date: Saturday 11th October 2014
Time: 9:00am to 4:30pm
Venue: Holiday Inn, Bloomsbury, Coram Street London WC1N 1HT


Event Convenor: Modupe Debbie Ariyo OBE, Founder of AFRUCA
Event Host: Priscilla Nwikpo, Presenter, The Woman Show, BEN TV
Chief Host: Diane Abbotts MP for Hackney North and Stoke Newington
Keynote Speaker: Ade Adetosoye OBE, Strategic Director of Community and Children Services, City of London
Special Guest of Honour: Cécile Kyenge MEP and Former Minister for Integration, Italy
Special Performances: Magdaleen Adenaike, Jessica Chukwu and Ugandan Dance Troupe


Summit Aims and Objectives:

This major event is a follow up to the very successful first Summit on African Children and Families held in October 2013. It aims to explore key safeguarding issues and challenges faced by children of black and African origin across London with a view to generating ideas and solutions to help combat the problems. This event aims to empower young people, their parents and the community to take ownership of the myriad of challenges confronting them to be able to ensure better safeguarding and protection for children.
Participants will spend the day sharing knowledge, ideas and professing solutions to help support families who are facing challenges leading to risk of harm to children.
Please note that this event is for UK residents only.


 Summit Format

This free, one day event will be in the form of plenary and workshop sessions. Many agencies and community organisations working on different issues are also exhibiting at this event. They will be on hand to take referrals from parents, young people and others who may require help and support in different ways.

Themes of this Summit

Themes will be explored through 4 different plenary workshops. Participants will be able to attend all workshops.
1. Workshop One: Discipline In African Families:
To Beat or Not to Beat? Special Session By AFRUCA Children’s Champions
Presenters: Ekanem Robertson, Courage Mthobeni, Margaret Agbabiaka and Franck Omombo
Chair: Prospera Tedam, Chair Board of Trustees AFRUCA and Senior Lecturer in Social Work- Practice University of Northampton.
2. Workshop Two: Is Female Genital Mutilation an African Problem?
Panelists: Dr. Comfort Momoh MBE, FGM/Public Health Specialist, Guys and St Thomas’ Hospital, Hawa Sessay, Founder Hawa Trust, Muzvare Betty Makoni, CNN World Hero and Founder Girl Child Worldwide Network and Leyla Hussein, Co-founder Daughters of Eve
Chair: TBC
3. Workshop Three: What Can We do About the Trafficking of African Children to the UK?
Presenters: Dorcas Erskine, Co-ordinator Poppy Project. Lola Gani-Yusuf, Anti-child Trafficking Co-ordinator, AFRUCA.
Chair: TBC
4. Workshop Four: Bullying, Sexual Abuse and Internet Safety: Enhancing Protection for African Families
Presenters: Jim Gamble, Chief Executive INEQE; Phinnah Ikeji, Founder, Parents of Black UK Pupils; Annette Williams, Service Manager, AFRUCA Centre for Children and Families, Manchester.
Chair: TBC


 Lunch, Refreshments and Child Care

Free lunch and refreshments will be provided at the event. There are very limited child care facilities in place for children between the ages of 6 and 14. Parents who require child care must contact us separately to arrange.
Email: saater@afruca.org for child care facilities
We expect this free event to be over-subscribed. Please register your place now to avoid any disappointments.

To register visit:

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/afruca-summit-on-african-children-and-families-in-london-tickets–12444627215
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Post by frankd 27.10.14 18:46

Trouble seems to follow Gamble wherever he goes.
He was very rude about detective amoral  and that is unusual for a cop to criticise another.
Teresa May be be wise to him that's why ceop  position was ditched 
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Post by PeterMac 27.10.14 19:16

To Beat or Not to Beat?     NOT
Is Female Genital Mutilation an African Problem?   AFRICAN MUSLIM
What Can We do About the Trafficking of African Children to the UK?   DON"T DO IT. LOOK AFTER YOUR OWN CHILDREN
Bullying, Sexual Abuse and Internet Safety: Enhancing Protection for African Families  BUT NOT FOR 63 YEAR OLD WHITE WOMEN

There are very limited child care facilities in place for children between the ages of 6 and 14.

That last line is priceless at an event about Safeguarding our Children !
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Post by By Numbers 28.10.14 11:45

More likely reflects my own suspicion of all things Common Purpose, but these Common-Purposey-type ventures always worry me when there are connections to them in the vicinity. Tony Blair's been setting up his own version of Common Purpose (under the guise of it being a charidee) in six different African countries. In my city, CP has got the whole racket sewn up. Next stop: the world.
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Post by Snifferdog 28.10.14 11:58

Yes the charidees. I think most of them should have their books evaluated, being just fronts for huge money making scams. After the pigs in the front rows have gobbled it all up you can be assured the money you so kindly donated will have been skimmed off before it reaches any poor starving children. How these parasites of society love to take advantage of peoples kindness, and they post up pictures to tug at the heart strings.

The cancer association being another world wide money making charidee. We are never allowed to see their books, and we don't have a cooking clue as to how peoples hard earned donations are allocated.

Imo the last thing the cancer association want is a cancer cure - because then there would be no need for the money making racket.

Look for real deserving causes, and donate to them. Your family and friends in need, your local community and so on.

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Post by Guest 28.10.14 11:58

Ladyinred wrote:AFRUCA - Africans Unite against Child Abuse.

www.afruca.org/

AFRUCA Summit on African Children and Families in London 2014


Safeguarding Our Children, Engaging Our Community



Date: Saturday 11th October 2014
Time: 9:00am to 4:30pm
Venue: Holiday Inn, Bloomsbury, Coram Street London WC1N 1HT



I will guarantee that not one child's life will have been improved in any way, shape or form by this piss up talking shop, but I bet the buffet lunch was spectacular.

I play football with this guy - he's a civil servant. Despite living here in the provinces he has the same name as somebody in a Whitehall department and was somehow erroneously invited to a lavish event at Wembley Stadium, attended by the great and the good and in some way intended to promote the development of football nationally. He's been to about five of these now and has never been challenged, asked about his reason for being there or been required to contribute in any way. In return for this he gets the only first class train tickets he's ever even seen, and as much smoked salmon as he can secret around the crevices of his Primark suit.

Nice work if you can get it.
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Post by Liz Eagles 28.10.14 12:39

By Numbers wrote:More likely reflects my own suspicion of all things Common Purpose, but these Common-Purposey-type ventures always worry me when there are connections to them in the vicinity. Tony Blair's been setting up his own version of Common Purpose (under the guise of it being a charidee) in six different African countries. In my city, CP has got the whole racket sewn up. Next stop: the world.
I wonder (thinking out loud here) if Jim Gamble provides courses to any of Tony Blair's charities?

Jim's an out and out Labour man. He loves the idea Alan Johnson could be back in the fold of the Labour Party - this would be the same Alan Johnson who appointed Jim Gamble to do a review.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8042483/Jim-Gamble-chief-of-CEOP-anti-paedophile-agency-resigns.html

Snipped:

Shadow Home Secretary Alan Johnson also praised the work of Mr Gamble, calling him a “passionate advocate for effective measures to protect children from evil individuals”.

ETA: I want to add my own opinion to the above snip 'evil individuals' - well paedophile rings aren't evil individuals.
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Post by Snifferdog 28.10.14 12:53

Good point!

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Post by Liz Eagles 28.10.14 13:07

How many paedophile rings have been cracked and exposed in UK?

How many inquiries into paedophile rings are currently underway in UK?

How many inquiries are now having problems producing an unbiased chairperson?

How much media coverage is placed on internet 'trolls' questioning the disappearance of Madeleine McCann?

What did CEOP ever achieve?

What did Jim Gamble achieve?

Why is there now media coverage of IRA links with paedophile rings?

Why is Jim Gamble, former head of Northern Ireland's Anti-terrorism Unit and former Chief Exec of CEOP now the continuing mouth-piece for the McCanns and troll-watch?

This is one truly scary production in my opinion.
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Post by jeanmonroe 28.10.14 15:25

'SNIPPED'


Good for Sonia Poulton.

For daring to challenge the McCann’s abduction story in no uncertain terms, she was named as a Troll on the dossier handed to the Met Police by the McCann’s.

Far from being cowed, and given that the Met was acting on this information, Ms Poulton (cleverly, imo) decided to contact the Met Police to ask them what they were going to do about the Trolls who have been attacking her.

Answer? Absolutely nothing… No 'resources' you see.  winkwink

Strange then that they have the resources to investigate the Trolls named on the McCann dossier, as reported by SKY News…

By Martin Brunt, Crime Correspondent

The Metropolitan Police is investigating a catalogue of vile internet abuse targeting the family of Madeleine McCann including death threats, Sky News can reveal.

Officers are in talks with the Crown Prosecution Service after being handed a dossier of more than 80 pages of Tweets, Facebook posts and messages on online forums aimed at Kate and Gerry McCann.

So, it appears it's one rule for the McCann’s and… (apart from their attention seeking bosom pals, the Madeley’s)... stuff everyone else.

I reckon Sonia Poulton is rightly miffed by this and is starting to dig pretty deeply.

Going by her tweet to Gamble, he is most definitely in her sights.

And hopefully, the McCann’s will not be very far behind him…  
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Did anyone see Skynews  report of Sonia Poulton and Katie Hopkins saying the Mccanns were neglectful?  I've heard it was yesterday but can't find it.
I watched it but I don't think the Mccanns were mentioned? Sky news hyped it up and it turned out to be a 5 minute piece with Katie Hopkins trying to talk over Sonia.This is it then?  I'd watched it and thought it must be the wrong report, obviously not!
http://news.sky.com/video/1356156/fiery-debate-over-twitter-trolls
This is what Sonia said on Twitter yesterday

"I hope s/one has full Sky int. with Hopkins and myself. The condensed version online misses bit on @metpoliceuk #mcann dossier & free speech"

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She also sent this tweet to J Gamble 8 hours ago
"Hello @JimGamble_INEQE I'm doing #mccann documentary & would like to interview you. Serious rumours surrounding your involvement to address."

Ooh err missus! I bet she doesn't get a reply.
She did get a reply of sorts!!
Sonia Poulton ‏@SoniaPoulton 5h5 hours ago
@RosalindaHu @veniviedivici he did respond...by blocking me! Shocked, frankly, I was respectful and direct in request.
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On location #mccann outside Brenda Leyland's home. Remembering #sweepyface #madeleine. Real talk not PR spin





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Post by Silverspeed 28.10.14 15:58

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Hello @thecarolemalone doing documentary & wondered if we're any closer to proof of 50 TEXTS a day you claimed #Sweepyface sent #mccann ?
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Post by jeanmonroe 28.10.14 16:06

Silverspeed wrote:Jim Gamble: Gr8 work by @skymartinbrunt  - Page 2 FGW3XCeW_normal Sonia Poulton @SoniaPoulton    ·  4 hrs 4 hours ago
Hello @thecarolemalone doing documentary & wondered if we're any closer to proof of 50 TEXTS a day you claimed #Sweepyface sent #mccann ?

Ge££y and Hate, or their 24/7 media 'monitors', or dossier 'compilers', could always 'release' irrefutable evidence of the 50 texts a day supposedly sent TO the McCanns, directly, by BL, couldn't they?

Hope the McCanns haven't 'accidentally' deleted them! winkwink
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Post by HelenMeg 28.10.14 16:16

aquila wrote:
By Numbers wrote:More likely reflects my own suspicion of all things Common Purpose, but these Common-Purposey-type ventures always worry me when there are connections to them in the vicinity. Tony Blair's been setting up his own version of Common Purpose (under the guise of it being a charidee) in six different African countries. In my city, CP has got the whole racket sewn up. Next stop: the world.
I wonder (thinking out loud here) if Jim Gamble provides courses to any of Tony Blair's charities?

Jim's an out and out Labour man. He loves the idea Alan Johnson could be back in the fold of the Labour Party - this would be the same Alan Johnson who appointed Jim Gamble to do a review.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8042483/Jim-Gamble-chief-of-CEOP-anti-paedophile-agency-resigns.html

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Shadow Home Secretary Alan Johnson also praised the work of Mr Gamble, calling him a “passionate advocate for effective measures to protect children from evil individuals”.

ETA: I want to add my own opinion to the above snip 'evil individuals' - well paedophile rings aren't evil individuals.
The other day I was looking back at the Labour cabinet of Blair's MAY 2007 Government.  Regarding the massive political cover up concerning this case, it seemed that  it was likely the cover up was due to someone high up in Labour politics being involved in the 'goings on' of week 28th April - 3rd May.  JG clearly had a reason for becoming involved and remaining involved over the last 7 years. There seems to be a relationship of some sorts between him and AJ.  I just wonder ....
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Post by frankd 29.10.14 20:03

c.2011/12 Alan Johnston  told Andrew Neil on the Politics Show that the McCanns were innocent.
Strange given what we now know and he had been Home Secretary  until May 2010.
He may have been kept out of the loop He was certainly out of his depth as shadow chancellor.
I have been looking for clip on you tube but to no avail.
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Post by comperedna 29.10.14 20:25

I'd bet on 'being kept out of the loop' if I had to choose between that and Alan Johnson's being involved in any kind of corruption. I've read both volumes of his autobiography and he comes over as a deeply honest man... Out of his depth? Well, that's another matter.
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Post by statsman 30.10.14 6:44

jeanmonroe said
Good for Sonia Poulton.

For daring to challenge the McCann’s abduction story in no uncertain terms, she was named as a Troll on the dossier handed to the Met Police by the McCann’s.

Far from being cowed, and given that the Met was acting on this information, Ms Poulton (cleverly, imo) decided to contact the Met Police to ask them what they were going to do about the Trolls who have been attacking her.

Answer? Absolutely nothing… No 'resources' you see

Now, if that's the reply Sonia got, wouldn't that be the same reply given to the senders of the dossier?

If it was, my question would be "When? Before or after Brunt door stopped Brenda?"

Could this come out in the inquest?
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