Re: Breaking News on Sky News - SY back in PDL suspects to be interviewed

by Hicks 02.07.14 10:35

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:I find Stephen Carpenter's statements suspicious. He was in the right place at the right time far too often for me. He even phoned Philomena at one point.

And it was the McCanns who put his name forward for the rogatory interviews.

I agree. Wasn't it Mrs Carpenter who 'supposedly' heard someone calling Madeleine's name at around 9.30pm whilst they were near 5a?
An impossibility imo as Madeleine was most surely not alive at that time.

by Guest 02.07.14 10:36

Link to earlier topic about the Carpenter family.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3311-the-carpenters

By the way WLBTS, I hope we won't need to send the dogs out to search for your missing avatar.

by whatliesbehindthesofa 02.07.14 10:41

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Link to earlier topic about the Carpenter family.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3311-the-carpenters

By the way WLBTS, I hope we won't need to send the dogs out to search for your missing avatar.

Bah, too much mucking about with files, I'll put it back in its rightful place as soon as I get home :)

by SixMillionQuid 02.07.14 10:43

noddy100 wrote:
SixMillionQuid wrote:
whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
inspirespirit wrote:This is the picture that Kim Guess took off her tele. posted on HiDeHo FB page. I don't know any other details.

That looks like Jane Tanner to me.
Looks fake to me. What TV program is this from? And why did she just happen to have camera ready, while watching the TV?
Not fake IMO she took it from I player much later this is from the news yesterday fir sure several others have posted it too

Where are the links to the TV program, The HiDeHo facebook page and Kim Guess facebook page?

by Tickle48 02.07.14 10:48

I've just had a quick look at the blogs that have apparently been deleted and they look like they all refer to the Fund - especially the accounts. Haven't had a chance to look at them all, obviously.

Also I agree. I think the woman looks like JT. I always thought the recent digs were prompted because she's talked.

All IMO only, of course.

by stillsloppingout 02.07.14 10:49

SixMillionQuid wrote:
noddy100 wrote:
SixMillionQuid wrote:
whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:
inspirespirit wrote:This is the picture that Kim Guess took off her tele. posted on HiDeHo FB page. I don't know any other details.

That looks like Jane Tanner to me.
Looks fake to me. What TV program is this from? And why did she just happen to have camera ready, while watching the TV?
Not fake IMO she took it from I player much later this is from the news yesterday fir sure several others have posted it too
Where are the links to the TV program, The HiDeHo facebook page and Kim Guess facebook page?

that is NOT Jane Tanner , the Girl in the pic looks about 25 and pretty . Jane is none of those .

by Hicks 02.07.14 10:49

No Fate Worse Than De'Ath wrote:Link to earlier topic about the Carpenter family.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3311-the-carpenters

By the way WLBTS, I hope we won't need to send the dogs out to search for your missing avatar.

Thanks for that. I am beginning to see now how Carpenter played a useful part in getting Murat' innocently'(not) into the picture. Murat is involved in this I just know it.

An post way back on this thread showed Malinka's computer searches, those being swinging sites. Then there is a witness statement for a man who was Malinka property who said he saw child pornography on his computer.
Something binds these people together that for sure.

by whatliesbehindthesofa 02.07.14 10:52

stillsloppingout wrote:
that is NOT Jane Tanner , the Girl in the pic looks about 25 and pretty . Jane is none of those .

Totally disagree - I don't know where the photo came from or how 'real' it is, but the person in it looks very much like Jane Tanner to me.

by j.rob 02.07.14 10:53

Deleted. Nothing to do with this thread and inference could be libellous.

by **Tony Bennett** 02.07.14 10:55

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:I find Stephen Carpenter's statements suspicious. He was in the right place at the right time far too often for me. He even phoned Philomena at one point.

And it was the McCanns who put his name forward for the rogatory interviews.

Stephen Carpenter's FoIAct requests to Stevenage Borough Council (he had a major run-in with them over planning and land issues) were deemed VEXATIOUS:

http://ico.org.uk/foikb/FOIPolicyVexatiousrequestsunderEIR.htm

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CB4QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffoiwiki.com%2Ffoiwiki%2Finfo_tribunal%2FDBFiles%2FDecision%2Fi271%2FCarpenter%2520v%2520IC%2520(EA-2008-0046)%2520Decision%252017-11-08.pdf&ei=8NWzU9DCKcevPN_LgYgE&usg=AFQjCNFSxcXrz-X8qHFTuGMYmdpnW_mI3A&bvm=bv.69837884,d.ZWU

by j.rob 02.07.14 10:56

Was it suggested that Murat had some kind of secret room where he lived,

Secrets and lies go together sometimes.

by whatliesbehindthesofa 02.07.14 10:59

@j-rob - That's all very nice but this thread is about the people being interviewed in Faro.

by Hopespringseternal 02.07.14 11:04

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 10m
#Madeleine Portuguese Press reporting that the UK search dogs brought back to the Algarve will start searching a number of vehicles.

Sorry, just catching up as been away on holiday for a week. Can it be true? Are they really using the dogs to search cars? Dogs with the same training and skills as those used to search the McCann's Scenic; the ones which indicated and caused traces to be found? Surely then they must trust the previous indications, either that or it's all for show.
Having worked with search dogs in the past (albeit not cadaver or blood) I'd trust them and their handlers rather than the members of the Tapas group.

by Guest 02.07.14 11:05

whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:@j-rob - That's all very nice but this thread is about the people being interviewed in Faro.

Post has been deleted.

by Monty Heck 02.07.14 11:10

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I find SC's use of the word 'capsule' strange when describing what seems to have been a room with a garage door frontage, therefore at a bare mimimum as wide as a garage door which extended back a fair distance, narrowing towards the end. How is this in any way a capsule? The use of this word seems quite deliberate, and perhaps an attempt to subtly hint at something rather sinister which it may not have been. For all we know there may not have been much room in the home of a laundry driver (whose work would be seasonal and probably low paid) to otherwise provide an older teenage child with personal space. SC seems IMO to be trying to convey the idea that this was some kind of lair despite having apparently accepted the explanation given at the time he viewed the space. It was not until later that any suspicions were mentioned.

by joyce1938 02.07.14 11:21

Monty heck, I agree with your last post ,we just cant make up a new story of why a house got planning permission and changed use of garage ,I know various folk did the same ,small part for washing and drier and wall and door and rest was bedroom with tv and small heater to house dad or anyone for short time staying ,no room in house . its in no way helpful l really . joyce1938

by Justformaddie 02.07.14 11:22

How are they gonna explain these suspects not leaving ANY forensic traces in 5a?, cadaver on clothes wardrobe and in the car and km hindering the search by not answering the. 48 questions? IMO this is telling me poor maddie was dead before they went to dinner at 8:30 that night

by FrankS 02.07.14 11:24

Hopespringseternal wrote:
whatliesbehindthesofa wrote:martinbrunt ‏@skymartinbrunt 10m
#Madeleine Portuguese Press reporting that the UK search dogs brought back to the Algarve will start searching a number of vehicles.

Sorry, just catching up as been away on holiday for a week. Can it be true? Are they really using the dogs to search cars? Dogs with the same training and skills as those used to search the McCann's Scenic; the ones which indicated and caused traces to be found? Surely then they must trust the previous indications, either that or it's all for show.
Having worked with search dogs in the past (albeit not cadaver or blood) I'd trust them and their handlers rather than the members of the Tapas group.

So what happens then if the dogs alert to Cadaver in Malinka's car or say this other P.O.I who has schizophrenia?

Will Gerry come out and say how 'reliable' these dogs are so they must be responsible for abducting and murdering our daughter.

Where is the Renault Scenic nowadays I wonder?

by Guest 02.07.14 11:26

Justformaddie wrote:How are they gonna explain these suspects not leaving ANY forensic traces in 5a?, cadaver on clothes wardrobe and in the car and km hindering the search by not answering the. 48 questions? IMO this is telling me poor maddie was dead before they went to dinner at 8:30 that night

They must have some imo, otherwise why would they ask for these suspects DNA, they must want it to see if it matches something?

by Justformaddie 02.07.14 11:27

candyfloss wrote:
Justformaddie wrote:How are they gonna explain these suspects not leaving ANY forensic traces in 5a?, cadaver on clothes wardrobe and in the car and km hindering the search by not answering the. 48 questions? IMO this is telling me poor maddie was dead before they went to dinner at 8:30 that night

They must have some imo, otherwise why would they ask for these suspects DNA, they must want it to see if it matches something?

Was that kept quiet then?
I thought the pj had no trace of any burglar at all, I'm confused lol

by canada12 02.07.14 11:29

candyfloss wrote:
Justformaddie wrote:How are they gonna explain these suspects not leaving ANY forensic traces in 5a?, cadaver on clothes wardrobe and in the car and km hindering the search by not answering the. 48 questions? IMO this is telling me poor maddie was dead before they went to dinner at 8:30 that night

They must have some imo, otherwise why would they ask for these suspects DNA, they must want it to see if it matches something?

If they are investigating cars then they would have to be the same cars that were in use 7 years ago and they would have had to have been continuously owned by the people who owned them 7 years ago. Or they would have had to have been in a secure police lockup since that time, or any results indicated by the dogs wouldn't have a chance of standing up in court because of the idea of outside contamination.

ETA - if they've asked for DNA samples then perhaps with new DNA techniques they've found DNA on items related to Madeleine that weren't identifiable before.

by FrankS 02.07.14 11:31

http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/will-dna-solve-madeleine-mccann-case.html

by Justformaddie 02.07.14 11:43

[quote="FrankS"]http://patbrownprofiling.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/will-dna-solve-madeleine-mccann-case.html[/quote]
Could it be then that these suspects committed burglaries at the oc so pin it on them? Still doesn't explain the cadaver odour though IMO

by sallypelt 02.07.14 11:43

Here's a gentle reminder for all the "pro McCann's" who are intent on discrediting the Portuguese police, and in particular, Dr G Amaral:

The Guardian, Monday 13 December 2010 21.30 GMT

WikiLeaks cables: UK police 'developed' evidence against McCanns

British ambassador's reported comments to US counterpart offer insight into role of UK police in 2007 investigation

twice in the WikiLeaks cables. Photograph: PA

British police helped to "develop evidence" against Madeleine McCann's parents as they were investigated by Portuguese police as formal suspects in the disappearance of their daughter, the US ambassador to Portugal was told by his British counterpart in September 2007.

The meeting between US ambassador Al Hoffman and the British ambassador, Alexander Wykeham Ellis, took place a fortnight after Kate and Gerry McCann were formally declared arguidos, or suspects, by Portuguese police. The McCanns have said that there was "absolutely no evidence to implicate them in Madeleine's disappearance whatsoever."

In a diplomatic cable marked confidential, the US ambassador reported: "Without delving into the details of the case, Ellis admitted that the British police had developed the current evidence against the McCann parents, and he stressed that authorities from both countries were working co-operatively."

The comments attributed to the ambassador appear to contradict the widespread perception at the time that Portuguese investigators were the driving force behind the treatment of the McCanns as suspects in the case.

FULL TEXT HERE: http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/dec/13/wikileaks-madeleine-mccann-british-police