LISA IRWIN, 10 months: parents make tearful plea - AND - Aaliyah Lunsford, missing in U.S., aged 3: LATEST

Get 'em Gonçalo wrote:

Gillyspot wrote:“I’m here to seek the truth,” Stanton told reporters during a briefing late Tuesday. “And wherever the truth leads, that’s where I’m going to go.”

This is really not looking good for little baby Lisa.

Thank goodness for people like Stanton.

aiyoyo wrote:So Stanton is not a bogus private detective out to obfuscate matters then....... unlike the mccanns' PIs?

It seems these days people have no trust in Police and seem to have ready money to hire PIs - bit strange to me that.

Gillyspot wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:So Stanton is not a bogus private detective out to obfuscate matters then....... unlike the mccanns' PIs?

It seems these days people have no trust in Police and seem to have ready money to hire PIs - bit strange to me that.

Actually I have read that he is more of a "Celebrity PI" mainly working as a "security consultant" for ABC and other news channels. He is from NYC so doesn't have a PI certificate for Kansas so the police will share no more with him than with you or I. He is being paid by a "wealthy family" with some connections to but not family of the Irwins.

Personally I think he is a total waste of time and no better than any of the McCanns detectives (I hope to be proved wrong though).

This case is shaping up like the McCanns. The Irwins said that the "abductor" got in through the window and the FBI now say most unlikely if not downright impossible.

aiyoyo wrote:


Why is it in nearly every child missing case there is always a wealthy supporter willing to finance non qualified PI to interfere with Police investigation. What is the whole point when the police wont recognise the work of the PI or work with the PI? More to the point what can a PI without any credential or experience do that the Police can't?

These wealthy supporter just want to promote their name more like. It's baffling rich people mentality these days...they have more money than sense and too much time on their hands - that the trouble. If not that, then some idiots claiming to be experts will come along to criticise Police or prosecutor handling of forensics evidence and get the perpetrator off.

Marian wrote:Daisy: I haven't seen the missing 3 year old's first name given as anything other than Aaliyah - clearly named after the singer who died in a plane crash some years ago. You're right that there doesn't seem to be anything recent about this case. It sounds so similar to that of the Australian girl last year.

P.S. The surname is LUNSFORD not LUMSFORD.

Daisy wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:


Why is it in nearly every child missing case there is always a wealthy supporter willing to finance non qualified PI to interfere with Police investigation. What is the whole point when the police wont recognise the work of the PI or work with the PI? More to the point what can a PI without any credential or experience do that the Police can't?

These wealthy supporter just want to promote their name more like. It's baffling rich people mentality these days...they have more money than sense and too much time on their hands - that the trouble. If not that, then some idiots claiming to be experts will come along to criticise Police or prosecutor handling of forensics evidence and get the perpetrator off.

I have to question that statement aiyoyo. Only the 'chosen' cases get to be exposed and gain such
high profile status to invite that kind of financial speculation (it's quite rare actually).
Sadly the majority of cases don't even see the light of day. They are
held within a secretive and corrupt system, attracting maybe the same, or
a different kind of speculator. It's a huge market. Children are economic units, commodities. Some of these so called philanthropists are making a lot of money by using children in many different ways. Unsavoury but true.

When I say 'the majority' I mean the majority. This is not just my opinion, nor is it conspricay talk, it's fact. (I can back this up if need be?) I had no idea how bad the situation was until I started digging deeper. I'm no longer 'baffled by the mentality of these rich people with too much time on their hands'.I'm not a religous person but I will say: God bless all those missing children that go unnoticed and never get a mention.

Aaliyah? Lumsford

Not
much news about the other missing girl, the 3 yr old is there? She's
been missing for 3 weeks now? I tried searching (via scroogle) for any
updates but the last 3 hits I get is for this forum. I can't find any recent news. Mind you, I've seen
her forename 'Aaliyah' spelt so many different ways from so many
different sources that it's hard to know what her real christian name is? I thought that could be hindering my search. I'd appreciate any reliable updates for this case.

aiyoyo wrote:

Daisy wrote:

aiyoyo wrote:


Why is it in nearly every child missing case there is always a wealthy supporter willing to finance non qualified PI to interfere with Police investigation. What is the whole point when the police wont recognise the work of the PI or work with the PI? More to the point what can a PI without any credential or experience do that the Police can't?

These wealthy supporter just want to promote their name more like. It's baffling rich people mentality these days...they have more money than sense and too much time on their hands - that the trouble. If not that, then some idiots claiming to be experts will come along to criticise Police or prosecutor handling of forensics evidence and get the perpetrator off.

I have to question that statement aiyoyo. Only the 'chosen' cases get to be exposed and gain such
high profile status to invite that kind of financial speculation (it's quite rare actually).
Sadly the majority of cases don't even see the light of day. They are
held within a secretive and corrupt system, attracting maybe the same, or
a different kind of speculator. It's a huge market. Children are economic units, commodities. Some of these so called philanthropists are making a lot of money by using children in many different ways. Unsavoury but true.

When I say 'the majority' I mean the majority. This is not just my opinion, nor is it conspricay talk, it's fact. (I can back this up if need be?) I had no idea how bad the situation was until I started digging deeper. I'm no longer 'baffled by the mentality of these rich people with too much time on their hands'.I'm not a religous person but I will say: God bless all those missing children that go unnoticed and never get a mention.

Aaliyah? Lumsford

Not
much news about the other missing girl, the 3 yr old is there? She's
been missing for 3 weeks now? I tried searching (via scroogle) for any
updates but the last 3 hits I get is for this forum. I can't find any recent news. Mind you, I've seen
her forename 'Aaliyah' spelt so many different ways from so many
different sources that it's hard to know what her real christian name is? I thought that could be hindering my search. I'd appreciate any reliable updates for this case.

While it's true to a large extent that the some rich and sick are sadly involved in unsavoury activities involving missing children, in the past we hardly heard of rich supporting PI to interfere with Police work involving missing children. At most if the family themselves could afford it they may hire PI on the side on the quiet.

But nowadays we have mccanns and their series of expensive bogus PIs. Now we have Lisa Irwin's parents who are neither in the same social class as the mccanns nor having the same chain connections a wealthy public personnel has got an dodgy qualified PI involved in the search for Lisa. Motive in Madeleine case is one thing. Purpose in Lisa's case seems another thing. In the former the parents were knowingly involved in the PI scam while in the latter the PI was probably forced on Irwins. But, both cases have a wealthy person willing to finance the PIs - that is my point. Why the rich are willing to do that is what is baffling me. What would be their ulterior motive? BK's motive cant be noble because of his direct involvement in the series of dodgy hires and tampering with witnesses, but what about the lisa's PI supporter? Is that for a noble or selfish (promote one's name) reason?

IAmNotMerylStreep wrote:

It didn't take long for this story to start "raising suspicion".

Four years of questionable activities by the McCanns and their acquaintances have still yet to raise suspicion by our own government, police and media.

It'll be interesting to see how Lisa's parents are treated should it turn out that they had something to do with her disappearance.