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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.24 13:40

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Jill Havern wrote:
PeterMac wrote:I think it is a case of finding anyone who will Touch this case, even with a very long barge pole.  
Most are either clearly frightened, or have had the super-inaudible served on them, 

The publisher is under attack as we speak.
Team McCann has a long reach and a lot of power and money behind it.
Hmmm....now why would that be?
The fightback has started.
Can you tell us anything about the fight back, and the publisher being under attack, without revealing more than you want to?
I'll let Peter answer that.

It could be a good thing though cos:

a) It means those who should know about the book, now know about the book aka Phase 1

b) The Rothley Bottom Trumpet Orchestra is beginning to parp  clown

c) Nope, can't think of anything else.

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Post by crusader 14.06.24 13:54

It's all very cloak and dagger.
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Post by Cake Lover 14.06.24 14:15

Well, Bern hasn't been slapped with a lawsuit yet, which makes me think that they don't dare, because they don't know how much he has on them. Or, it's a load of nothing, and they've nothing to worry about. Dan Wootton, fearless reporter, should have jumped on this, he can't pretend he doesn't know about it.
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Post by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 19:03

I am unable to find the rogatory interviews or Gerry McCanns blogs which are in the annals of the forum. It was these two subjects that caught my attention and has kept me on this forum for well over a decade.
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Post by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 19:15

PeterMac wrote:I think it is a case of finding anyone who will Touch this case, even with a very long barge pole.  
Most are either clearly frightened, or have had the super-inaudible served on them, 

The publisher is under attack as we speak.
Team McCann has a long reach and a lot of power and money behind it.
Wouldn't Mark Saunokonoko have been first choice?
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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.24 19:37

But Mark is in Australia, and Sonia is in the UK where Team McCann live.

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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.24 19:39

Liz Eagles wrote:I am unable to find the rogatory interviews or Gerry McCanns blogs which are in the annals of the forum. It was these two subjects that caught my attention and has kept me on this forum for well over a decade.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/search?search_keywords=rogatory

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f60-pamalam-gerry-mccann-s-blogs

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Post by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 19:50

Jill Havern wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:I am unable to find the rogatory interviews or Gerry McCanns blogs which are in the annals of the forum. It was these two subjects that caught my attention and has kept me on this forum for well over a decade.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/search?search_keywords=rogatory

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f60-pamalam-gerry-mccann-s-blogs
Is there a link to the rogatory interviews as a whole? I know it exists because I read it.
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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.24 20:00

Liz Eagles wrote:
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Liz Eagles wrote:I am unable to find the rogatory interviews or Gerry McCanns blogs which are in the annals of the forum. It was these two subjects that caught my attention and has kept me on this forum for well over a decade.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/search?search_keywords=rogatory

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f60-pamalam-gerry-mccann-s-blogs
Is there a link to the rogatory interviews as a whole? I know it exists because I read it.
They would definitely be on Pamalam's website.

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Post by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 20:09

Jill Havern wrote:But Mark is in Australia, and Sonia is in the UK where Team McCann live.
What is Poulton going to do because she lives in UK? Doorstep the McCanns? She already did that pointless exercize.

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Post by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 20:11

Jill Havern wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:
Jill Havern wrote:
Liz Eagles wrote:I am unable to find the rogatory interviews or Gerry McCanns blogs which are in the annals of the forum. It was these two subjects that caught my attention and has kept me on this forum for well over a decade.
https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/search?search_keywords=rogatory

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/f60-pamalam-gerry-mccann-s-blogs
Is there a link to the rogatory interviews as a whole? I know it exists because I read it.
They would definitely be on Pamalam's website.
Can you post a link to Pamalam's website please.
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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.24 20:21


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Post by Liz Eagles 14.06.24 20:27

Jill, I was hoping for a direct link to the rogatory interviews.
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Post by Jill Havern 14.06.24 20:29


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Post by crusader 14.06.24 20:34

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Post by PeterMac 15.06.24 7:19

https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
and then all the others ins the same search
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Post by PeterMac 15.06.24 7:42

Liz Eagles wrote:
PeterMac wrote:I think it is a case of finding anyone who will Touch this case, even with a very long barge pole.  
Most are either clearly frightened, or have had the super-inaudible served on them, 

The publisher is under attack as we speak.
Team McCann has a long reach and a lot of power and money behind it.
Wouldn't Mark Saunokonoko have been first choice?

Surely most of us recognise that by now no one has the choice of interviewer, nor indeed of publisher.
No main stream media will touch anything except the "Official story" - ludicrous though it is,-  and will permit no discussion of
alternative scenarios.
Main stream publishers will shy away from anything likely to "Rock the boat" or attract the attention of Team McCann's attack dogs

Finding the publisher was not easy, and they are under attack from an 'unknown enemy' already
Many press outlets had promised to attend the book launch, but in the event very few turned up

Saunokonoko had expressed an interest some years ago – and always remember this book was substantially written three years ago, during COVID incidentally, which gave Brendt the time during lockdown to read the rogatories in such excruciating detail – but publication was held back for YEARS at the request and on the advice of H. Fülscher who did not wish it to compromise or divert from the work he was doing with the current trial.
Those with long and good memories for detail will recall Fülschers somewhat Delphic reference which is now made clear.

Mark Saunokonoko has now moved on and his former channel has gone Pro-McC (reportedly) so that avenue is no longer open.

Of all the rest who :
Have some media exposure
Are listened to, whether in agreement or criticism
and crucially
Are Brave enough to speak . . . .

Sonia P was perhaps his last chance

I don't think criticism of the Medium is well founded.
Let is concentrate on the Message, which ultimately boils down to ONE proposition alone

There was NO ABDUCTION ON THURSDAY 3/5/7


everything else flows from that, but is ultimately of lesser importance.
Whether Madeleine died on 2/5/7, or 1/5/7 or 30/4/7 or even 29/4/7 is an interesting detail but does not alter the force of the main proposition.

The parents state that Madeleine was abducted on 3/5/7
She wasn't
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Post by Liz Eagles 15.06.24 8:08

Thank you crusader. I'm using a small iPad at the moment and I'm not savvy with it. To add insult to injury I can't hold the bloody thing due to a sprained wrist.

I haven't managed to learn how to copy and paste.
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Post by Liz Eagles 15.06.24 8:10

PeterMac wrote:https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/DAVID-PAYNE-ROGATORY.htm
and then all the others ins the same search
Read them all but Payne's is the one to concentrate on.

Thank you Peter.....and Happy Birthday.
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Post by Honesty 15.06.24 21:26

Surprised by how hesitant and nervous Payne appears to be in the interview.
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Post by PeterMac 16.06.24 11:05

He is trying desperately to stick to the script but not to tell lies at the same time
And discovering it isn't possible.   
What is telling is where he is asked about things which are clearly not covered by the agreed script, and then struggles as he needs time to make sure that what he says doesn't conflict with the story, or with what he has already said.
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Post by Honesty 16.06.24 14:07

Thank you, Peter. Sounds like a good barrister or any well informed person could tear him to shreds.
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Post by crusader 16.06.24 14:32

If only they could get the chance.
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Post by AnneCGuedes 16.06.24 18:05

PeterMac wrote:

I don't think criticism of the Medium is well founded.
Let is concentrate on the Message, which ultimately boils down to ONE proposition alone

There was NO ABDUCTION ON THURSDAY 3/5/7


everything else flows from that, but is ultimately of lesser importance.
Whether Madeleine died on 2/5/7, or 1/5/7 or 30/4/7 or even 29/4/7 is an interesting detail but does not alter the force of the main proposition.

The parents state that Madeleine was abducted on 3/5/7
She wasn't

It follows from the total absence of any sign of abduction that the insistence of the parents, the MSM and the authorities on always referring to M's disappearance as an abduction is the real message.
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