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Post by MaxHeadroom 17.11.23 14:08

I just started recently watching Deception Detective's videos on the McCanns, and yes, he's very good, perfectly complements Peter Hyatt's work on the same subject. Btw. Hyatt has said that in the coming weeks he might do a video that analyzes the supporters of the CB theory. That will also be interesting, as in Wolters' face and body language you can also see a lot of clues for lying and deception.
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Post by Verdi 17.11.23 15:11

Brueckner lawyer speaks on McCann investigation | 9 News Australia

3 years ago



3:21 minutes

The lawyer for prime suspect Christian Brueckner in the Madeleine McCann abduction has spoken in an exclusive interview with Nine News, with Friedrich Fulscher revealing his client will never cooperate with police but denies it’s because he has something to hide.

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Post by Silentscope 17.11.23 15:22

Verdi wrote:That video ^^^ is over 3 years old and covers news reports of information long since done and dusted - is there good reason you re-post at this late stage?

It would be reported in English, it's an Australian network - Australian's speak English.
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Post by Guest 17.11.23 15:50

3 years already and even then they said based on strong evidence, and still nothing in this case at all that shows any realistic sign at all.

ff has even took the time to reinvent his onlook, he goes now by a quite retro look, hairs all combed over the usual male thin spot and strong darkrimmed glasses. so he is ready and lost his puppy face. the guy gets a fair chance to grow grey before it end up in a court. 

i am not really fond of most australian broadcasts around crime, it has so much over the top shouting in it, and there is hardly ever a real story line in it. 

the news could be just from yesterday, no changes at all. 

the real new realization is maybe that even people who know the law of their own country, could declare you guilty of very serious crime, and escape their own job rules, by still not find a urge to let that happen in a court of law. wasn't this one not from the same time as the maddie and the monster broadcast, also from australia.

who ever would het thought it was possible to say these serious allegations on tv. and after that it is just retake after retake, without anything telling or putting it to the test in court. 

and all that shopping for crimes abroad, and they have found enough during the box factory raid ans always have been very open about what they found, and that case also never made in a court in germany.
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Post by Verdi 18.11.23 15:46

Oh lordy, here we go again.  Not Madeleine McCann related but nonetheless trading on the name..

MADDIE CLUES Madeleine McCann cops believe Christian B’s ex-lovers may have ‘vital clues’ to crack case & unravel his ‘strange life'


Desperate cops have come up with a new strategy to uncover new intelligence on Christian B


   Imogen Braddick

   Published: 13:52, 18 Nov 2023Updated: 13:53, 18 Nov 2023

GERMAN cops are frantically trying to track down ex-lovers of the prime suspect in the Madeleine McCann investigation.

Detectives believe former partners of Christian B hold vital clues in piecing together the “confused timeline” of the years the 54-year-old spent “drifting” around Praia De Luz.

It comes as officers face a race against time in linking the convicted paedophile to Maddie’s disappearance.

A source close to the case said: "German detectives remain convinced Christian B was involved in Maddie’s disappearance.

"But they still have a very confused timeline of Christian B’s life spent on Praia De Luz.

"For years he is thought to have been drifting around the island living in a van and they want to understand more about what he was doing during this time and who he was seeing.

“The big problem they have is that relations with Portuguese cops are at an all-time low."

They added: "Hardly any intelligence is now being shared.

"This has therefore left German cops with little choice but to work backwards and to try and trace as many friends, colleagues, former girlfriends and lovers of Christian B as possible.

"They might hold vital clues.

"Cops remain sure someone, somewhere, knows information which could be of vital importance."

Former partners of Christian B have come forward before.

Two years ago Nuray Oezgen told how she met Christian B while working in a bar in Hanover in 2012 and they eventually rented a place together.

But just months into their relationship, she says he became aggressive and would drink beer and Jagermeister with pals while she worked alone.

Nuray later said the relationship soured when Christian B began showing an unhealthy obsession with schoolgirls.

The final straw came when Nuray discovered Christian B was in a sexual relationship with a local teen he brought back to their flat.

Police later raided his home in Braunschweig where they discovered a secret stash of hundreds of sickening child abuse images.

He was found to have sexually abused a friend's five-year-old daughter but, by then, he had already fled to Portugal.

An arrest warrant was issued and he eventually confessed to the sickening crimes.

He was extradited back to Germany in 2016 and jailed.

A source close to the current probe into Christian B says his “wayward” and “hedonistic” lifestyle remain of huge interest to officers.

The source said: “Christian B lived a very strange life in Germany and later in Praia De Luz.

"He used a lot of drugs and travelled around meeting women, many of whom went off with him consensually.

"So there’s a web of former partners and lovers who could hold really critical information about what he was getting up to.

"Officers desperately need new leads."

Two weeks ago, we exclusively revealed how cops leading the probe into Christian B may have “just weeks” to save their investigation.

The Sun told how detectives fear the investigation could collapse by the New Year unless a fresh lead is found.

A source close to the investigation told us: “The next few weeks are make or break for the detectives investigating Christian B.

“Publicly they are saying they remain convinced he is linked to Maddie’s disappearance, and that they will present evidence in due course.

"But, privately, the case is close to collapsing.

"There’s no new leads, and the primary witness they were relying on has totally gone offside."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/24744650/madeleine-mccann-cops-hunt-prime-suspect-lovers-clues/

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Post by Verdi 18.11.23 15:50

I wonder what ever happened to Tracey 'make that a large one' Kandohla - she's conspicuous by her absence of late.

Her sickophantic articles are sorely missed, such depth and attention to retail.

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Post by Verdi 18.11.23 15:54

Ooops, we're on a roll now - it's gaining speed..

Madeleine McCann cops 'desperate to track down prime suspect's ex-lovers'


German cops looking to piece together the history of the main suspect in the Madeleine McCann investigation, convicted paedophile Christian B.


By Tim McNulty
14:57, Sat, Nov 18, 2023 | UPDATED: 15:17, Sat, Nov 18, 2023

Police in Germany are actively looking for former romantic partners of Christian B, the main suspect in the Madeleine McCann investigation.

Investigators believe that these ex-lovers may be able to reconstruct the "confused timeline" of the years when the 54-year-old was allegedly "drifting" around Praia De Luz.

This effort is especially urgent because officers are racing against the clock to find a link between the convicted sex offender and Maddie's disappearance.

A source familiar with the case told the Sun: "German detectives remain convinced Christian B was involved in Maddie’s disappearance.

"But they still have a very confused timeline of Christian B's life spent on Praia De Luz."

Read More Madeleine McCann's parents to receive apology from Portuguese police

They added for an extended period, Christian B is believed to have wandered across [Praia De Luz], residing in a van, and investigators aim to gain insight into his activities and the individuals he associated with during this period.

Ex-partners of Christian B have previously come forward. In a case from two years ago, Nuray Oezgen described meeting Christian B while working at a pub in Hanover in 2012, which led to them eventually sharing a home.

However, after a few months, she noticed his increasing aggression and habit of drinking beer and Jagermeister with friends while she worked alone.

The relationship soured when Christian B developed an unhealthy obsession with schoolgirls, according to Nuray. The breaking point came when she discovered his sexual relationship with a local teenager, who he had brought back to their flat.

Police in Germany are actively looking for former romantic partners of Christian B, the main suspect in the Madeleine McCann investigation.

Investigators believe that these ex-lovers may be able to reconstruct the "confused timeline" of the years when the 54-year-old was allegedly "drifting" around Praia De Luz.

This effort is especially urgent because officers are racing against the clock to find a link between the convicted sex offender and Maddie's disappearance.

A source familiar with the case told the Sun: "German detectives remain convinced Christian B was involved in Maddie’s disappearance.

"But they still have a very confused timeline of Christian B's life spent on Praia De Luz."

Read More Madeleine McCann's parents to receive apology from Portuguese police

They added for an extended period, Christian B is believed to have wandered across [Praia De Luz], residing in a van, and investigators aim to gain insight into his activities and the individuals he associated with during this period.

Ex-partners of Christian B have previously come forward. In a case from two years ago, Nuray Oezgen described meeting Christian B while working at a pub in Hanover in 2012, which led to them eventually sharing a home.

However, after a few months, she noticed his increasing aggression and habit of drinking beer and Jagermeister with friends while she worked alone.

The relationship soured when Christian B developed an unhealthy obsession with schoolgirls, according to Nuray. The breaking point came when she discovered his sexual relationship with a local teenager, who he had brought back to their flat.

Following that, police raided his Braunschweig home, discovering a hidden collection of disturbing child abuse images.

A warrant for his arrest was issued, and he eventually admitted to the appalling offences.

In 2016, he was extradited to Germany and subsequently imprisoned.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1836508/madeleine-mccann-cops-suspect


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Post by Verdi 18.11.23 15:58

Christmask is coming the fund is getting low  

Give us yer money and sign John Doe santa ho ho ho!

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Post by CaKeLoveR 18.11.23 16:09

They are simply desperate, full stop. They humiliate themselves with this garbage.
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Post by crusader 18.11.23 16:15

They are getting desperate to find anything they can and from anywhere to pin Madeleines disappearance on him.
If C Brueckner had taken Madeleine, somebody would know about it and they would have come foreward if only for the reward offered in the early day's.
Mind you, it is amusing watching them get more and more desperate.
Still waiting to fall off my chair.
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Post by CaKeLoveR 18.11.23 16:35

You've got time to knit the history of the world before you fall off your chair. I'm surprised they haven't come up with an evil twin for him, who takes the blame for his crimes.
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Post by Guest 18.11.23 16:38

there are already 3 known by name for that week in may 2007, would it really could have fitted do do some abducting on the side too. 

and why would it be helpful to publish that message only in the uk papers at all, there is nothing on hcw his website that asks for such information. it is not cb only restricted himself to the english ladies of course, he never looked that fussy at all. 

none even spoke that he was in a bit of a hurry at all. he always took his time to tell them he actually liked his more skinny and younger, or give them a bit of a beating. 
most of his partners must already have been on the 'we pay for your story, the sun' listings. 

come on the guy also had to stay in two camper vehicles, and drive a jaguar, traveling between on and tomar for his business, the other he had to travel back from to another beach each night. we have the one that told about he said; i have to do a horrible job from may 2 too. and do not forget to do a ritual or two at his little paradise. 

if there are even more, together with that nice mix of weed and jagermeister makes it worth a olympic gold medal in that kind of sports. 

shame the independent has no livestream of hcw looking for romantic engagements in the uk.
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Post by Verdi 19.11.23 0:21

Easy answer, talk to those who claim to be in the know .... Seyferth or Busching who appear to know more about Brueckner than the man himself.

If he even exists in anything but name alone.

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Post by Verdi 19.11.23 0:28

quaver And the beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La-de-da-de-de, la-de-da-de-da quaver

It's weekend..

Madeleine McCann suspect's ex-lovers have 'vital clues' that could finally crack case

Detectives are trying to piece together the timeline around when Christian Brueckner was in the Portuguese resort of Praia De Luz


ByKelly-Ann MillsNews Reporter

18:35, 18 Nov 2023Updated19:22, 18 Nov 2023

Police in Germany are in a race against time to track down former lovers, friends and work colleagues of the prime suspect in the Madeliene McCann investigation.

Detectives are trying to piece together the timeline around when Christian Brueckner was in the Portuguese resort of Praia De Luz. They think he was drifting around the area at the time when the then toddler went missing while on holiday with her parents and younger twin siblings.

But officers are believed to have just a few more weeks to save their case, as the Mirror reported last week. They fear their case could be scrapped by the New Year if they can't come up with a fresh lead. Just a few days ago, the convicted paedophile's lawyer claimed the German police's investigation was "shaky".

Brueckner is yet to be formally charged - but was named by cops as the prime suspect. He has a long criminal history, for both burglary and sex crimes, including against young girls. In the past quarter of a century, he's been linked to several disappearances. One six-year-old boy in Portugal in 1996 and a five-year-old girl in Germany in 2015 are thought to be his victims.

A source close to the case told the Sun: "For years he is thought to have been drifting around the island living in a van and they want to understand more about what he was doing during this time and who he was seeing. The big problem they have is that relations with Portuguese cops are at an all-time low."

"Hardly any intelligence is now being shared. This has therefore left German cops with little choice but to work backwards and to try and trace as many friends, colleagues, former girlfriends and lovers of Christian B as possible. They might hold vital clues."

Two years ago Nuray Oezgen spoke up to say she met Christian B while working in a bar in Hanover in 2012 and they eventually rented a place together. But just months into their relationship, she says he became aggressive. She added their relationship broke down when she realised he had an unhealthy obsession with schoolgirls.

The source added: “Christian B lived a very strange life in Germany and later in Praia De Luz. He used a lot of drugs and travelled around meeting women, many of whom went off with him consensually.

"So there’s a web of former partners and lovers who could hold really critical information about what he was getting up to. Officers desperately need new leads."

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/suspects-ex-lovers-vital-clues-31472249

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Post by Verdi 19.11.23 0:43

Disturbed by what he saw, Manfred S. told RTL that he took the footage to the police and that it was this that eventually led to Brueckner's conviction.

It comes after the Mail on Sunday established that Brueckner had used a Casio Exilim digital camera to store 391 child porn pictures and 68 videos showing the rape and abuse of minors.

It was the same device that he used to take images of himself sexually abusing the five-year-old daughter of an ex-girlfriend.

The camera and its contents became the main evidence against Brueckner during two trials in which he was accused of sexually abusing the girl and possessing child pornography.

He fled to Portugal after being acquitted in 2016, but admitted his guilt when he was extradited back to Germany a year later. He was given a 15-month jail sentence.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8655653/Former-friend-Madeleine-McCann-prime-suspect-tells-boasted-breaking-hotels.html

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Post by Guest 19.11.23 6:13

well that last one has at least something brand new.

portugal, or at least praia da luz is on a island;

A source close to the case told the Sun: "For years he is thought to have been drifting around the island living in a van and they want to understand more about what he was doing during this time and who he was seeing. The big problem they have is that relations with Portuguese cops are at an all-time low."


and in quite an advanced model of a van, because it was not even on the island, but travelling around it.


at least that must mean this source can not be a certain former student of the geography stuff, he would never have left out all the times on the same day he had to loose out on time, because of waiting till the ferry was available. 


so who ever had thought that, a very new element to explore.
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Post by sandancer 19.11.23 9:36

The island !!!! What if there is no ferry , what if it's like Lindisfarne and folk have to wait until the tide goes out to cross the causeway ? 

It gets funnier by the minute , 😂😂😂

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Post by Guest 19.11.23 10:48

it is there, i had to read it 3 times, and even got some reading glasses, i usually do not have need of them jet, but it was still there, the island. 
must be a new reporter, you know i had no idea these books about secret island mysteries had been still populair. but in a good mystery there is always a island of course. 

and i had to go back in my memories how we got into spain, many years ago, but even in 2007 we did just that, and i remember we had to go high up, we never actually have seen the borders at all, it was very misty at the time, and it even snowed a lot. and we got down on the other side, but come on, i did grew up with ferries over the river, and traveled other by sea, but i have no water or sea leggs at all, so to not notice we accidentally not only missed out the border that day, it can not been a ferry for sure. 

and i have been standing on other hills in spain and had even a look or two of portugal, but beside a small river, we never did get it it was just an island. 

so yeah, that brings a new element to the mystery of course. 16 years, growing into 17, and only this weekend they let slip it is on an island. 

and beside this news, cb never was really able ti implicate him self in at least 30% of the cases about other european missing children, the suggestions did come from 1. the media, 2. the other media, 3, more media, 4. the public. and of course if you throw a weirdo on the table, all cases will be looking for a probable connection, but nothing had stick in anyone of them, except in 1. the media, 2. etc. 

and it is not nice to see, these still missing children are only used to all these stories, but it is never about these children, not even a small sentence to a interpol notice or a national one, so be can take a moment on these cases. it is the faith of the missing, forgotten, only if there could be made use of their names or cases to fit just the next page filling disaster in a form of media. 

i am also very curious why they are always are able to find people to write just crap, and who also put their names above it. and the kelly-ann is not exactly one fresh out of college at all. she started to call herself a reporter from 2004 on. and got it even made to an editor after october 2014.

was this just a last spur of the moment adventure, she had to make up some space between the friday office party and and some urgent shopping? or was good old tracy still on sick leave, i mean it is not even an exclusive, are all the red tops under lawful obligations to at least nick the story and lift their leg to leave some markings out, you know that dogs do it, has a sound explanation, but in the news? really?
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Post by CaKeLoveR 19.11.23 11:16

Maybe this reporter had watched Brigadoon, and became confused.
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Post by Silentscope 19.11.23 13:03

A Lie has to be Sustained.

The Truth just remains.

If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”


This is an excellent definition of the “Big lie,” however, there seems to be no evidence that it was used by Nazi propaganda chief Joseph Goebbels, though it is often attributed to him.
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Post by Guest 19.11.23 15:12

that one is contributed to his chief too, for me both are not the kind of people i would want to use, these guys made it already far too personal too, in my family, so even i have read most of their works, in german. 

and in the end both cannot have been the better or wiser, they lost. 

and as jg his first contribution was used in an written affair against the brittish, i would not easily get into the idea, using the citation as done per jg, on an forum full of english. 

of course they would just keeping up their appearances, and just follow the wise words, the rest of the world mostly knows from a certain john cleese, do not mentioning the war, i thing that is quite a sound idea. 

i mean the cb saga is in itself enough to put the sentiments to the german people above margins, and most only put effort in only some germans who in my not even humble opinion deserve the blame by their own actions. 

we can hardly find this complete case one of big lies, mostly there are of so little quality they are easy to spot. so it has no need of words that better never had seen the light of day at all.

but do we have been treated with this citation, because you agree with it, because in its original full glory it was about a habit of all brittish that did lie big, and that would a fair bit to harsh of course. 

i mean my own experience with porky savvy british is they are mastering a better skill, that of do just not talk about it, there is always the weather or serve a cup of tea. 

but no, i am not allright to be dished out a nazi text on an ordinary sunday afternoon, in november 2023, or actually any year at all. by the way stalin used it to. 
and it is of course always better to not talk about war stuff from the losers sides. 

and really it does not matter how big or small a lie is, it is always the question if your mind is big enough, and your memory good enough to not be found out you are a liar.
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Post by Silentscope 19.11.23 16:32

Those who do not learn from History’s mistakes are doomed to repeat them. 

Honesty used to be the best Policy.

Time for the U.K. PRESS to give up pushing all this Trash, because even Brückner has been told already it is going nowhere.

Kate and Gerry are not being invited as Kläger (Chargers) to Court.

Because if they were, they would have a ‘Mitschuld’ (Culpability) in that they left their Children unattended.

Facilitating the Crime.
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Post by Guest 19.11.23 16:50

still, quotations directly from das dritte reich are category not done, not polite, do not in the world of forum etiquette. 

there is hardly ever a need of necessity to use them, there are always ways around, often even in your own words. 

if we had a friend or foe button on this forum, i would have used it. 

and it even had no correlation at all on media crap. the tabloids probably have did that well before jg wrote these words in his pamflet against the brittish. 
but doing it in the month of november, what stands for remembrance of the victims of also the one you cite, is in my vocabulary tasteless.
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Post by Silentscope 19.11.23 17:28

It is also not Polite to hang the consequences of your lack of Parenting skills on someone else.

Whatever an Asshole he may be.

All Political Correctness aside.
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