The latest McCann suspect: Scotland Yard has revealed vital new information about a suspect wanted in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

Verdi wrote:

Silentscope wrote:Google translate is wrong - UNVERSUCHT means untried, they left nothing untried for years to find their daughter.

At least the googlel translate was on the mark.  Your much appreciated correction might be linguistically correct but it's not factually correct!

That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.


He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.


Mea culpa.

could you post the link to this? I didn't know the state prosecution had said that? all I've seen is the germans have said that they have concrete evidence Maddie is dead.
I see the general feel on this forum is that the parents did it. I just think that were careless for leaving their children alone but I personally don't believe they've covered anything up. I hope the truth comes to light 

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.


He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.


Mea culpa.

could you post the link to this? I didn't know the state prosecution had said that? all I've seen is the germans have said that they have concrete evidence Maddie is dead.
I see the general feel on this forum is that the parents did it. I just think that were careless for leaving their children alone but I personally don't believe they've covered anything up. I hope the truth comes to light 

Silentscope wrote:[size=42]Für die Polizei in Großbritannien gilt Maddie weiterhin als vermisst. Die Annahme der deutschen Ermittler, dass sie nicht mehr am Leben ist, hatte dort viel Aufsehen und Verwirrung hervorgerufen. Zahlreiche Medien hatten daraufhin spekuliert, in Deutschland müssten eindeutige Beweise für den Tod des Mädchens vorliegen.[/size]

Translation:

[size=42]For the British Police, Maddie is still listed as missing.[/size]
[size=42]The German Police’s Investigators [/size][size=42]take on the case that she must be presumed dead caused much attention and confusion. Many MEDIA had speculated that in Germany they must have been found [/size][size=42]irrefutable evidence for the girls death.[/size]


[size=42]Konkrete / concrete proof[/size]


[size=42]Concrete is so far that a dead bodys odour was detected in Apartment 5A.[/size]
[size=42]There is enough Victim DNA found there that in the UK and Germany it would be safe to proceed with a case, just not in Portugal due to higher levels of proof being required.[/size]
[size=42]Witness statements and chat room protocols display CBs intent to carry out the same sort of crime as the one he is suspected of committing.[/size]
[size=42]He has video of other crimes he has committed in this area and corresponding physical trophies.[/size]
[size=42]He was allegedly in the area using his mobile on the night.[/size]


[size=42]That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.[/size]


[size=42]He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.[/size]


[size=42]Mea culpa.[/size]

Flossy wrote:while also allowing for enough time for cadaver scent to develop enough for the dogs to be able to detect it.

Mainline wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.


He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.


Mea culpa.

could you post the link to this? I didn't know the state prosecution had said that? all I've seen is the germans have said that they have concrete evidence Maddie is dead.
I see the general feel on this forum is that the parents did it. I just think that were careless for leaving their children alone but I personally don't believe they've covered anything up. I hope the truth comes to light 

Have a read.

Silentscope wrote:You may be right, but isn’t right to joke about it.

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.


He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.


Mea culpa.

could you post the link to this? I didn't know the state prosecution had said that? all I've seen is the germans have said that they have concrete evidence Maddie is dead.
I see the general feel on this forum is that the parents did it. I just think that were careless for leaving their children alone but I personally don't believe they've covered anything up. I hope the truth comes to light 

Silentscope wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.


He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.


Mea culpa.

could you post the link to this? I didn't know the state prosecution had said that? all I've seen is the germans have said that they have concrete evidence Maddie is dead.
I see the general feel on this forum is that the parents did it. I just think that were careless for leaving their children alone but I personally don't believe they've covered anything up. I hope the truth comes to light 

Link to Fokus.de


https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/der-fall-maddie-im-news-ticker-kein-dringender-tatverdacht-gegen-christian-b_id_12062430.html

The Forum has recently posted a vote on Brückners involvement, last time I checked was yesterday. 

The only other thing against him is a satellite photo of his VW Campervan outside his villa, but the media is portraying this as being days after the disappearance. This is not accurate. Check google earth pro.

He told his girfriend he had a job to do that night and she wouldn’t be seeing him for a while afterwards, it still remains to be seen what the job was. Maybe he has an Alibi, if the other telephone caller can be traced.


As with all the other years worth of potential patsys, the Media is trying to fling enough mud so that something might stick. He may be responsible for many crimes in the past, but his previous and all the circumstantial evidence doesn’t prove he did anything to Maddie at this point.

If a search would turn up a Video he took at the scene, everything would change. But I doubt it.

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

Silentscope wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.


He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.


Mea culpa.

could you post the link to this? I didn't know the state prosecution had said that? all I've seen is the germans have said that they have concrete evidence Maddie is dead.
I see the general feel on this forum is that the parents did it. I just think that were careless for leaving their children alone but I personally don't believe they've covered anything up. I hope the truth comes to light 

Link to Fokus.de


https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/der-fall-maddie-im-news-ticker-kein-dringender-tatverdacht-gegen-christian-b_id_12062430.html

The Forum has recently posted a vote on Brückners involvement, last time I checked was yesterday. 

The only other thing against him is a satellite photo of his VW Campervan outside his villa, but the media is portraying this as being days after the disappearance. This is not accurate. Check google earth pro.

He told his girfriend he had a job to do that night and she wouldn’t be seeing him for a while afterwards, it still remains to be seen what the job was. Maybe he has an Alibi, if the other telephone caller can be traced.


As with all the other years worth of potential patsys, the Media is trying to fling enough mud so that something might stick. He may be responsible for many crimes in the past, but his previous and all the circumstantial evidence doesn’t prove he did anything to Maddie at this point.

If a search would turn up a Video he took at the scene, everything would change. But I doubt it.

Thanks for the info. From what I understand the germans found a hard drive with 8,000 or so files on it. Dont we think this could be the concrete evidence? 

Surely that's the only concrete evidence they have?

Silentscope wrote:The dogs and DNA evidence are not disputed by me or the BKA. IF they are planning to shoehorn CB into the frame, the only way they could achieve it would be if he did something in the Flat before the alleged Abduction was reported. According to his profile he would have left a mess that someone else had to clear up. He didn’t take her away.

If DNA or Madeleine is found on his property or video evidence taken in the Apartment were to come to light, then everything changes. The metadata on the USB sticks found under his Dogs body confirms it was taken on a Camera found in his possession. The BKA is so far neither confirming or denying that any footage of Madeleine is on them.

Why would Mark Harrison’s Boss answer any questions which are likely to be used to influence the case? I would have said nothing.

Silentscope wrote:All previous hirers of the Hire car were interviewed and Statements take by the PJ. The last Hirer before the McCanns is now believed to have a previously denied connection. The Hire car was hired with a Credit card that first doesn’t exist but was later reported stolen in the UK with a wallet and other contacts? The PJ were told by the Met that no one has CCs or Bank accounts anyway. 

Whether the car was cleaned or not before the Dogs made their detections is irrelevant. It wasn’t cleaned good enough. Firstly the Dogs could still detect the odours they were trained for. Secondly further Physical evidence was secured that confirms they were not alerting falsely. Maybe Dr. P can unravel the DNA content? 

You have answered your next question yourself. Either he didn’t do it on the night, or he did it earlier on. 

Have the Tranmer and Jenner statements been confirmed?

In most Arguido interviews and their Forensic analysis of them by other Investigators I would guess someone wants to know how much the opposition ie the Law knows. 

How can it be me? Why do you think it’s me? How dare you think that! There’s another suspect, it must have been him...

Any Detective worth his salt knows these phrases...and their meaning.

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

Silentscope wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

That the State Prosecution now says it has still not uncovered enough evidence to interview him with in Maddies case doesn’t mean he won’t be interviewed and charged if something does come in later. Keine dringende Tatverdacht means there is no urgent suspicion at this time.


He is not yet cleared or eliminated from the enquiry, just put on the back burner.


Mea culpa.

could you post the link to this? I didn't know the state prosecution had said that? all I've seen is the germans have said that they have concrete evidence Maddie is dead.
I see the general feel on this forum is that the parents did it. I just think that were careless for leaving their children alone but I personally don't believe they've covered anything up. I hope the truth comes to light 

Link to Fokus.de


https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/der-fall-maddie-im-news-ticker-kein-dringender-tatverdacht-gegen-christian-b_id_12062430.html

The Forum has recently posted a vote on Brückners involvement, last time I checked was yesterday. 

The only other thing against him is a satellite photo of his VW Campervan outside his villa, but the media is portraying this as being days after the disappearance. This is not accurate. Check google earth pro.

He told his girfriend he had a job to do that night and she wouldn’t be seeing him for a while afterwards, it still remains to be seen what the job was. Maybe he has an Alibi, if the other telephone caller can be traced.


As with all the other years worth of potential patsys, the Media is trying to fling enough mud so that something might stick. He may be responsible for many crimes in the past, but his previous and all the circumstantial evidence doesn’t prove he did anything to Maddie at this point.

If a search would turn up a Video he took at the scene, everything would change. But I doubt it.

Thanks for the info. From what I understand the germans found a hard drive with 8,000 or so files on it. Dont we think this could be the concrete evidence? 

Surely that's the only concrete evidence they have?

Why do you not mention the dogs, you know Eddie & Keela that were brought in by the UK police, then cadaver odour was detected in apartment 5a as well as the McCann's hire car, cadaver odour takes about an hour to form.

So what do you think would be found on those 8,000 files on a hard drive in relation to Madeleine?

As I remember Gerry McCann phoned Mark Harrison's boss to ask how accurate the dogs are, now why would he do that when he said Madeleine had been abducted?

cookiemuncher wrote:

Silentscope wrote:The dogs and DNA evidence are not disputed by me or the BKA. IF they are planning to shoehorn CB into the frame, the only way they could achieve it would be if he did something in the Flat before the alleged Abduction was reported. According to his profile he would have left a mess that someone else had to clear up. He didn’t take her away.

If DNA or Madeleine is found on his property or video evidence taken in the Apartment were to come to light, then everything changes. The metadata on the USB sticks found under his Dogs body confirms it was taken on a Camera found in his possession. The BKA is so far neither confirming or denying that any footage of Madeleine is on them.

Why would Mark Harrison’s Boss answer any questions which are likely to be used to influence the case? I would have said nothing.

I've only hired one rental car ever but I remember it was cleaned to a high standard inside and out and I would have been very annoyed if it was in a terrible state and smelly when I had to drive it away from the rental office.

Why would the German have any video evidence of Madeleine in the apartment when according to her parents she was checked on every 20 minutes or so, why would he hang around in an apartment to abduct a child and bother to take videos when her parents or anyone (even a cleaner to take in fresh bed linen etc) had walked into the apartment at any moment?

re Mark Harrison, it doesn't matter whether he said anything or not, the fact that Gerry McCann spoke to him about the reliability of the dogs says it all when Madeleine was supposed to have been abducted.  If I've got that fact wrong perhaps someone can put me right.

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

Silentscope wrote:

Link to Fokus.de


https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/der-fall-maddie-im-news-ticker-kein-dringender-tatverdacht-gegen-christian-b_id_12062430.html

The Forum has recently posted a vote on Brückners involvement, last time I checked was yesterday. 

The only other thing against him is a satellite photo of his VW Campervan outside his villa, but the media is portraying this as being days after the disappearance. This is not accurate. Check google earth pro.

He told his girfriend he had a job to do that night and she wouldn’t be seeing him for a while afterwards, it still remains to be seen what the job was. Maybe he has an Alibi, if the other telephone caller can be traced.


As with all the other years worth of potential patsys, the Media is trying to fling enough mud so that something might stick. He may be responsible for many crimes in the past, but his previous and all the circumstantial evidence doesn’t prove he did anything to Maddie at this point.

If a search would turn up a Video he took at the scene, everything would change. But I doubt it.

Thanks for the info. From what I understand the germans found a hard drive with 8,000 or so files on it. Dont we think this could be the concrete evidence? 

Surely that's the only concrete evidence they have?

Why do you not mention the dogs, you know Eddie & Keela that were brought in by the UK police, then cadaver odour was detected in apartment 5a as well as the McCann's hire car, cadaver odour takes about an hour to form.

So what do you think would be found on those 8,000 files on a hard drive in relation to Madeleine?

As I remember Gerry McCann phoned Mark Harrison's boss to ask how accurate the dogs are, now why would he do that when he said Madeleine had been abducted?

I dont mention the dogs because I thought their credibility got thrown out in the end didn't it? They're not always accurate I hear? I agree its very strange that they both alerted to the same areas. What is the official finilisation of the dogs alerting like they did? 

Ive not heard about Gerry making a call about the dogs so ca nt comment on that

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

Silentscope wrote:

Link to Fokus.de


https://www.focus.de/panorama/welt/der-fall-maddie-im-news-ticker-kein-dringender-tatverdacht-gegen-christian-b_id_12062430.html

The Forum has recently posted a vote on Brückners involvement, last time I checked was yesterday. 

The only other thing against him is a satellite photo of his VW Campervan outside his villa, but the media is portraying this as being days after the disappearance. This is not accurate. Check google earth pro.

He told his girfriend he had a job to do that night and she wouldn’t be seeing him for a while afterwards, it still remains to be seen what the job was. Maybe he has an Alibi, if the other telephone caller can be traced.


As with all the other years worth of potential patsys, the Media is trying to fling enough mud so that something might stick. He may be responsible for many crimes in the past, but his previous and all the circumstantial evidence doesn’t prove he did anything to Maddie at this point.

If a search would turn up a Video he took at the scene, everything would change. But I doubt it.

Thanks for the info. From what I understand the germans found a hard drive with 8,000 or so files on it. Dont we think this could be the concrete evidence? 

Surely that's the only concrete evidence they have?

Why do you not mention the dogs, you know Eddie & Keela that were brought in by the UK police, then cadaver odour was detected in apartment 5a as well as the McCann's hire car, cadaver odour takes about an hour to form.

So what do you think would be found on those 8,000 files on a hard drive in relation to Madeleine?

As I remember Gerry McCann phoned Mark Harrison's boss to ask how accurate the dogs are, now why would he do that when he said Madeleine had been abducted?

I dont mention the dogs because I thought their credibility got thrown out in the end didn't it? They're not always accurate I hear? I agree its very strange that they both alerted to the same areas. What is the official finilisation of the dogs alerting like they did? 

Ive not heard about Gerry making a call about the dogs so ca nt comment on that

Good God, what planet are you living on?  Their credibility got thrown out in the end, are you for real??

They were the first highly trained dogs to do that sort of work, in fact they were taken on by the FBI, their handler Martin Grimes had 35 years of training dogs and you just dismiss them as not being credible???????

So you're saying all blood and cadaver dogs can be dismissed over the past 10 or more years as not being credible and they're a waste of time training them as they can't be trusted?

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:
Thanks for the info. From what I understand the germans found a hard drive with 8,000 or so files on it. Dont we think this could be the concrete evidence? 

Surely that's the only concrete evidence they have?

Why do you not mention the dogs, you know Eddie & Keela that were brought in by the UK police, then cadaver odour was detected in apartment 5a as well as the McCann's hire car, cadaver odour takes about an hour to form.

So what do you think would be found on those 8,000 files on a hard drive in relation to Madeleine?

As I remember Gerry McCann phoned Mark Harrison's boss to ask how accurate the dogs are, now why would he do that when he said Madeleine had been abducted?

I dont mention the dogs because I thought their credibility got thrown out in the end didn't it? They're not always accurate I hear? I agree its very strange that they both alerted to the same areas. What is the official finilisation of the dogs alerting like they did? 

Ive not heard about Gerry making a call about the dogs so ca nt comment on that

Good God, what planet are you living on?  Their credibility got thrown out in the end, are you for real??

They were the first highly trained dogs to do that sort of work, in fact they were taken on by the FBI, their handler Martin Grimes had 35 years of training dogs and you just dismiss them as not being credible???????

So you're saying all blood and cadaver dogs can be dismissed over the past 10 or more years as not being credible and they're a waste of time training them as they can't be trusted?

Dont be patronising with me mate, we are all here because we care about a young child. So miss me with your  petty insults.

The planet im on tells me the Mccanns attorney's convinced the judge that the cadaver dogs are accurate just 22 percent to 38 percent of the time.

What Im saying is cadaver dogs aren't 100 percent accurate. 

Why didn't the Mccanns get found guilty if the dogs alerted to these things? Serious question .. ?

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:
Why do you not mention the dogs, you know Eddie & Keela that were brought in by the UK police, then cadaver odour was detected in apartment 5a as well as the McCann's hire car, cadaver odour takes about an hour to form.

So what do you think would be found on those 8,000 files on a hard drive in relation to Madeleine?

As I remember Gerry McCann phoned Mark Harrison's boss to ask how accurate the dogs are, now why would he do that when he said Madeleine had been abducted?

I dont mention the dogs because I thought their credibility got thrown out in the end didn't it? They're not always accurate I hear? I agree its very strange that they both alerted to the same areas. What is the official finilisation of the dogs alerting like they did? 

Ive not heard about Gerry making a call about the dogs so ca nt comment on that

Good God, what planet are you living on?  Their credibility got thrown out in the end, are you for real??

They were the first highly trained dogs to do that sort of work, in fact they were taken on by the FBI, their handler Martin Grimes had 35 years of training dogs and you just dismiss them as not being credible???????

So you're saying all blood and cadaver dogs can be dismissed over the past 10 or more years as not being credible and they're a waste of time training them as they can't be trusted?

Dont be patronising with me mate, we are all here because we care about a young child. So miss me with your  petty insults.

The planet im on tells me the Mccanns attorney's convinced the judge that the cadaver dogs are accurate just 22 percent to 38 percent of the time.

What Im saying is cadaver dogs aren't 100 percent accurate. 

Why didn't the Mccanns get found guilty if the dogs alerted to these things? Serious question .. ?

I'm not you mate, thank you very much.

If you read Amaral's book you will find out that the PTB put a lot of effort into derailing the investigation from the start, many strings were pulled nobody knows why but Amaral states in all in his book.  The McCanns obviously had connections in very high places, starting with Blair and Brown, how high up it goes is another matter.

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:

cookiemuncher wrote:

Justice_4_Maddie wrote:
I dont mention the dogs because I thought their credibility got thrown out in the end didn't it? They're not always accurate I hear? I agree its very strange that they both alerted to the same areas. What is the official finilisation of the dogs alerting like they did? 

Ive not heard about Gerry making a call about the dogs so ca nt comment on that

Good God, what planet are you living on?  Their credibility got thrown out in the end, are you for real??

They were the first highly trained dogs to do that sort of work, in fact they were taken on by the FBI, their handler Martin Grimes had 35 years of training dogs and you just dismiss them as not being credible???????

So you're saying all blood and cadaver dogs can be dismissed over the past 10 or more years as not being credible and they're a waste of time training them as they can't be trusted?

Dont be patronising with me mate, we are all here because we care about a young child. So miss me with your  petty insults.

The planet im on tells me the Mccanns attorney's convinced the judge that the cadaver dogs are accurate just 22 percent to 38 percent of the time.

What Im saying is cadaver dogs aren't 100 percent accurate. 

Why didn't the Mccanns get found guilty if the dogs alerted to these things? Serious question .. ?

I'm not you mate, thank you very much.

If you read Amaral's book you will find out that the PTB put a lot of effort into derailing the investigation from the start, many strings were pulled nobody knows why but Amaral states in all in his book.  The McCanns obviously had connections in very high places, starting with Blair and Brown, how high up it goes is another matter.

When the evidence comes out about Christian B you can apologise later,mate