Re: The latest McCann suspect: Scotland Yard has revealed vital new information about a suspect wanted in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

by Verdi 05.07.20 13:51

Silentscope wrote:Partly the main problem for everyone in this case is the abscense of a body. If not found, no one can easily refute the chosen narrative that she must be out there, and so the search continues.

The absence of a body does not prevent nor curtail a police investigation. They look for evidence and intelligence that can develop the investigation - routine policing, they don't give up because a body hasn't been found. The evidence was there, as recorded in the PJ files released into the public domain. The PJ investigation was archived in the summer of 2008, partly due to lack of conclusive evidence but significantly because of outside interference. Firstly the UK and now Germany is jumping on the bandwagon.

Many a prosecution has been instigated without a body. Evidence in this case strongly suggests the victim, Madeleine McCann, died sometime between 28th April and 3rd May 2007 - that was the thesis of the PJ investigation. Trouble is, a strong united force wanted/needed to quash the thesis

My question remains intact .... who is Herr Wolter, what is his game-plan, why and above all else - who's pulling his strings.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16899-a-report-by-chief-inspector-tavares-de-almeida-to-the-coordinator-of-the-criminal-investigation-10thseptember-2007#421772

Have you watched the comprehensive video of the dog search Silentscope?

by crusader 05.07.20 13:57

If Mr Amaral had been allowed to do his job, the whole thing would have been wrapped up by 2008.

by Verdi 05.07.20 14:04

Silentscope,

Your learned contribution here on CMOMM is very much appreciated and welcomed but can I ask .... are you here to subtly endorse the apparent, though badly disguised, attack against the Portuguese and their police force?

Forgive me for that is how it appears.

by sallypelt 05.07.20 14:07

Verdi wrote:
Silentscope wrote:Partly the main problem for everyone in this case is the abscense of a body. If not found, no one can easily refute the chosen narrative that she must be out there, and so the search continues.

The absence of a body does not prevent nor curtail a police investigation. They look for evidence and intelligence that can develop the investigation - routine policing, they don't give up because a body hasn't been found. The evidence was there, as recorded in the PJ files released into the public domain. The PJ investigation was archived in the summer of 2008, partly due to lack of conclusive evidence but significantly because of outside interference. Firstly the UK and now Germany is jumping on the bandwagon.

Many a prosecution has been instigated without a body. Evidence in this case strongly suggests the victim, Madeleine McCann, died sometime between 28th April and 3rd May 2007 - that was the thesis of the PJ investigation. Trouble is, a strong united force wanted/needed to quash the thesis

My question remains intact .... who is Herr Wolter, what is his game-plan, why and above all else - who's pulling his strings.

https://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t16899-a-report-by-chief-inspector-tavares-de-almeida-to-the-coordinator-of-the-criminal-investigation-10thseptember-2007#421772

Have you watched the comprehensive video of the dog search Silentscope?

Herr Wolter's "evidence" is Like Jane Tanner's egg man, and Pinocchio's nose; it just grows and grows.
This is what Hans Christian Wolter said back in 14 June 2020:

Hans Christian Wolters, a spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor’s office, said on Monday prosecutors had some evidence Madeleine was dead but did not have enough for a trial.
But speaking to the Sunday Mirror, he appeared to row back on this.
“Because there is no forensic evidence there may be a little bit of hope (that she is alive),” he told the paper.
What a genius. If she isn't dead, she could still be alive.
https://more.talktalk.co.uk/news/2020/06/14/german-prosecutor-holds-out-slim-hope-madeleine-could-still-be-alive

by **Jill Havern** 05.07.20 14:13

sallypelt wrote:Herr Wolter's "evidence" is Like Jane Tanner's egg man, and Pinocchio's nose; it just grows and grows.
This is what Hans Christian Wolter said back in 14 June 2020:

Hans Christian Wolters, a spokesman for the Braunschweig public prosecutor’s office, said on Monday prosecutors had some evidence Madeleine was dead but did not have enough for a trial.
But speaking to the Sunday Mirror, he appeared to row back on this.
“Because there is no forensic evidence there may be a little bit of hope (that she is alive),” he told the paper.
What a genius. If she isn't dead, she could still be alive.
https://more.talktalk.co.uk/news/2020/06/14/german-prosecutor-holds-out-slim-hope-madeleine-could-still-be-alive

Now, where have I heard that before?

Ah yes, Assistant Commissioner Mark "she could be alive, or sadly dead" Rowley who went on to receive a Knighthood.

by Verdi 05.07.20 14:14

Herr Wolter doesn't know anything does he sallypelt, he appears to be a lone wolf on a personal crusade for stardom, or maybe - like the McCanns, he's got an axe to grind.

There's been quite a few of these posers sucked-up over the past thirteen years - a job for the Stephen Birch patented all weather industrial strength body detector and suckeruperrer.

liar

Even Tanner was/is more convincing than Herr Wolter. At least she was there!

by **Jill Havern** 05.07.20 14:17

^^^

by Silentscope 05.07.20 14:20

The production of a body is of course not ESSENTIAL for a prosecution, but it sure stops the chosen abduction narrative cold.

The PJ are surely on the right track based on the available evidence.

The Germans have recently uncovered a Shed in Munster purpose built with Terrabytes of encrypted Pedoporn, and have so far made 17 arrests in connection with associated networks in the Internet.

To your question(s)

1. Herr Wolter is the State prosecuter for Braunschweig.
2. His game plan is to remove as many Paedophiles as possible from society to a) preserve innocence. b) remove any chance that far right organisations can capitalise on this as they are demanding the death penalty be reinstated for childmolesters.
3. The CDU Christian Democratic Union

by Verdi 05.07.20 14:21

crusader wrote:A Scotland Yard detective who lived next door to Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner is working with Portuguese police to find the missing three-year-old, it was sensationally claimed today.

I think this is Jose de Freitas, but I didn't know he lived next door to C Brueckner!!

That must have been some commute.

Sorry about the bold, I'm trying to fix it.

The UK press have named the Scotland Yard detective, said to be living next door to Christian Brueckner, as Oliver Stenard with wife Karin.

by sallypelt 05.07.20 14:29

Verdi wrote:
crusader wrote:A Scotland Yard detective who lived next door to Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner is working with Portuguese police to find the missing three-year-old, it was sensationally claimed today.

I think this is Jose de Freitas, but I didn't know he lived next door to C Brueckner!!

That must have been some commute.

Sorry about the bold, I'm trying to fix it.

The UK press have named the Scotland Yard detective, said to be living next door to Christian Brueckner, as Oliver Stenard with wife Karin.

"living next door to Christian Brueckner" Who the fu.. Who is Oliver Stenard?

airkiss

I'll get my coat!

by crusader 05.07.20 14:30

Thanks for the correction Verdi, I must have missed that.

by **Jill Havern** 05.07.20 14:34

sallypelt wrote:
Verdi wrote:
crusader wrote:A Scotland Yard detective who lived next door to Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner is working with Portuguese police to find the missing three-year-old, it was sensationally claimed today.

I think this is Jose de Freitas, but I didn't know he lived next door to C Brueckner!!

That must have been some commute.

Sorry about the bold, I'm trying to fix it.

The UK press have named the Scotland Yard detective, said to be living next door to Christian Brueckner, as Oliver Stenard with wife Karin.
"living next door to Christian Brueckner" Who the fu.. Who is Oliver Stenard?

I'll get my coat!

I got it

by Verdi 05.07.20 14:36

Silentscope wrote:The production of a body is of course not ESSENTIAL for a prosecution, but it sure stops the chosen abduction narrative cold.

The PJ are surely on the right track based on the available evidence.

The Germans have recently uncovered a Shed in Munster purpose built with Terrabytes of encrypted Pedoporn, and have so far made 17 arrests in connection with associated networks in the Internet.

To your question(s)

1. Herr Wolter is the State prosecuter for Braunschweig.
2. His game plan is to remove as many Paedophiles as possible from society to a) preserve innocence. b) remove any chance that far right organisations can capitalise on this as they are demanding the death penalty be reinstated for childmolesters.
3. The CDU Christian Democratic Union

No it doesn't stop the chosen abduction narrative cold, the abduction theory is still alive and kicking to this very day. It was/is the remit of the Metropolitan Police special unit, Operation Grange.

Yes and the German endeavours to wipe-out paedophilia and safe-guard children is commendable but your reference has no apparent connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

That aside, as you no doubt realised, I was referring to Herr Wolter's rationale for direct involvement with the case of missing Madeleine McCann, not his general standing in the world of crime.

by sallypelt 05.07.20 14:37

Verdi wrote:
crusader wrote:A Scotland Yard detective who lived next door to Madeleine McCann suspect Christian Brueckner is working with Portuguese police to find the missing three-year-old, it was sensationally claimed today.

I think this is Jose de Freitas, but I didn't know he lived next door to C Brueckner!!

That must have been some commute.

Sorry about the bold, I'm trying to fix it.

The UK press have named the Scotland Yard detective, said to be living next door to Christian Brueckner, as Oliver Stenard with wife Karin.

I don't think Oliver Stenard is the Briish cop. This is what I have read:

Neighbours, Austrian couple Oliver and Karin Stenard, said that Brueckner lived opposite them with his girlfriend.

And that next to them was a Brit cop who worked at Scotland Yard.

by Verdi 05.07.20 14:44

crusader wrote:Thanks for the correction Verdi, I must have missed that.

Your standing is safe.

The narrative has now been changed by The Daily Star a few minutes ago..

A British police officer lived next door to the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, it has been revealed.

Christian Brueckner's villa is said to have been next door to an unidentified Scotland Yard detective.

The revelation came from a TV show on Sexta 9 in Portugal aired.

The programme also included facts about the 43-year-old suspect including him chasing sheep while drunk and exposing himself to kids.

Neighbours, Austrian couple Oliver and Karin Stenard, said that Brueckner lived opposite them with his girlfriend.

And that next to them was a Brit cop who worked at Scotland Yard.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/brit-policeman-lived-next-door-22304602

The latest McCann suspect: Scotland Yard has revealed vital new information about a suspect wanted in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. - Page 13 0_file10

Christian Bruekner's villa in Portugal where he lived in 2007 the same year Madeleine McCann disappeared

I see no ships sarcastic

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by sallypelt 05.07.20 14:59

OMG! This has left me with tears running down my face, from laughter:

Austrian-born Oliver ... added in a bombshell revelation about the British detective: 'The next door neighbour is an English policeman from Scotland Yard.
'He's working for Scotland Yard together with the Portuguese police. He was the neighbour at the time.'
Wife Karin, admitting that like her husband she knew he had a criminal past but never suspected he was a paedophile, added: 'Christian Brueckner was living in the house in Foral when Madeleine McCann disappeared.
'Foral is a big area and there was no-one around at the time.
'I say he killed her and there was a lot of space to bury her. I think her body may be buried there and I told the police that.'
She revealed how she asked Oliver to stop Brueckner looking after their sheep as part of the work he did for them at the rented property they shared from July to September 2016.
She sadded: 'When he was working for us as a gardener and handyman he also had to feed the sheep with hay in the morning.
'One morning I saw him chasing the sheep and one in particular called Wolflie.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8489435/Detective-lived-door-Madeleine-McCann-suspect-working-police-her.html
laugh

by Silentscope 05.07.20 15:27

Verdi wrote:Silentscope,

Your learned contribution here on CMOMM is very much appreciated and welcomed but can I ask .... are you here to subtly endorse the apparent, though badly disguised, attack against the Portuguese and their police force?

Forgive me for that is how it appears.

I don’t work for any side but the truth. Whatever it transpires to be.

I am not duty bound to protect anyone’s reputation at the cost of Law and Order.

The Dogs video is excellent but when one Dog seems to wander off In the Garage with it’s nose in the air I ask were the Air vents above the wall checked? A blue sports bag could have been hidden there. The grating could have been lifted from outside. A through draft would keep anything cool. Any DNA left in there?
Even if DNA were to be found, the method of testing chosen would always be deemed inconclusive.
All attempts to use modern methods are being stonewalled.

The PJ were being manipulated from the outset. This led to things being handled differently than if someone had reported a murder. Evidence has been withheld from them and false leads generated to hamper them. If anyone is attacking them it is undoubtedly the MSM. The bias is plain to behold.

I just don’t discount the possibility that however whatever happened that it could have been caused by someone outside of the Group, who then panicked and invented a cover story because they knew they would be investigated, and what might come out of that investigation.

Of course someone could just do the right thing, own up and face the music whoever they are...

by **sharonl** 05.07.20 15:37

So this is the NSY officer who was working with the PJ

Remember the allegations of a mole and that someone was leaking information to the British police and to the press? Is this the same officer?

by sandancer 05.07.20 15:40

" One morning I saw him chasing the sheep "

Was he shouting " mint sauce " ? laugh

by Silentscope 05.07.20 20:54

Verdi wrote:
Silentscope wrote:The production of a body is of course not ESSENTIAL for a prosecution, but it sure stops the chosen abduction narrative cold.

The PJ are surely on the right track based on the available evidence.

The Germans have recently uncovered a Shed in Munster purpose built with Terrabytes of encrypted Pedoporn, and have so far made 17 arrests in connection with associated networks in the Internet.

To your question(s)

1. Herr Wolter is the State prosecuter for Braunschweig.
2. His game plan is to remove as many Paedophiles as possible from society to a) preserve innocence. b) remove any chance that far right organisations can capitalise on this as they are demanding the death penalty be reinstated for childmolesters.
3. The CDU Christian Democratic Union

No it doesn't stop the chosen abduction narrative cold, the abduction theory is still alive and kicking to this very day. It was/is the remit of the Metropolitan Police special unit, Operation Grange.

Yes and the German endeavours to wipe-out paedophilia and safe-guard children is commendable but your reference has no apparent connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

That aside, as you no doubt realised, I was referring to Herr Wolter's rationale for direct involvement with the case of missing Madeleine McCann, not his general standing in the world of crime.

There appears to be something lost in translation here,

If regrettably a body was found today and then positively and independently identified, how could Op Grange still say it’s a missing person enquiry. Maddie was reported missing but is now found. End of story. Or?

The only apparent connection with the disappearance is a telephone call, the Germans are apparently sincere in their endeavours to either prove or disprove CBs relevance to this and other running investigations.

I suspect Herr Wolters is doing what Dr. Amaral did, his job - without fear or favour. He is certainly not being hampered by his Political peers at the moment. I personally doubt he has any ulterior motives. You must ask him personally as I cannot speak for him or the BKA. SORRY...

by Guest 05.07.20 21:02

Silentscope wrote:The only apparent connection with the disappearance is a telephone call, the Germans are apparently sincere in their endeavours to either prove or disprove CBs relevance to this and other running investigations.

I'm not sure how his phone call connects him to the disappearance.

I'd say the only connection he has so far with this case is the fact that he has appeared in the media "as the prime suspect".

by **sharonl** 05.07.20 21:51

pauloalexandre wrote:
Silentscope wrote:The only apparent connection with the disappearance is a telephone call, the Germans are apparently sincere in their endeavours to either prove or disprove CBs relevance to this and other running investigations.
I'm not sure how his phone call connects him to the disappearance.

I'd say the only connection he has so far with this case is the fact that he has appeared in the media "as the prime suspect".

I read somewhere earlier that the call was to a fellow drug dealer. But, how on earth could they possibly know what was discussed between 2 people in a telephone conversation 13 years ago, unless they were recording his calls.

by Verdi 05.07.20 21:52

Silentscope wrote:The Dogs video is excellent but when one Dog seems to wander off In the Garage with it’s nose in the air I ask were the Air vents above the wall checked? A blue sports bag could have been hidden there. The grating could have been lifted from outside. A through draft would keep anything cool. Any DNA left in there?

The underground garage was selected by the PJ and forensics as a neutral sterile environment to conduct the dogs inspections, both the vehicle and items belonging to the McCanns exclusively.

Are you now, seriously, suggesting Martin Grime and/or the PJ team, or a representative working for the McCanns picked a random garage air vent to conceal a blue bag? A blue bag yet to be confirmed as evidence in a location unbeknown to be destined for the dog inspection.

You're having a laugh.

by **sharonl** 05.07.20 22:01

What do we know about this mobile phone?

Was the handset found? Where? and by whom?

Was it just a number that was trace? Was it registered to Bruckner?

Wasn't Bruckner living in a camper van in May 2007? How do you register a phone to a camper van?

Why did the police pick on this particular no out of hundreds that must have activated the antennas that night?

by Verdi 05.07.20 22:09

I've had a number of mobile phones. As I upgrade I give the old phones away to folk who can't afford a mobile phone.

My past identity must be floating around ad-lib.

The latest McCann suspect: Scotland Yard has revealed vital new information about a suspect wanted in connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.