Re: Digging to start next week - UPDATE... starting today 2/6/14

by russiandoll 03.06.14 10:15

Sussex and Welsh police on the ground now in PdL with at least one Springer Spaniel running about, obeying commands in Welsh from the handler [ on Sky News]

by NickE 03.06.14 10:16

According to phone pings and digging.
Kiko said,it was not possible to get exact position from GSM in Luz at the time,but it was possible if the phone had a GPS,and there was one doctor in the group who had one,Dr Payne.

by russiandoll 03.06.14 10:17

jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!

Don't take any notice of the media rumour mill... this is not being reported on Sky who have just shown the dogs

by tiny 03.06.14 10:17

jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!

Well if that's the case and they still have EM in their sights, then the pj must want a cover up as well.

by Clouseau 03.06.14 10:17

see the dude in charge of the radar thingy is a Rom Gostomski of Sandberg just had a quick look at his profile and his favourite things are Wine and Tapas nice one my son nice one

by HelenMeg 03.06.14 10:19

Its good for a change to feel optimistic about there being developments in this case, but when I think about it realistically, I dont think anything will be found at all. It doesn't make sense to me that anything is buried in these areas. If the Mc Canns received assistance and support and there was political interference such that Amaral was 'dropped' and the case shelved in 'mid investigation' then it would make more sense that there was help in body disposal and that all evidence was disposed of. If specialist cleaners were brought in , as many believe, to clean up the apartment then there is no chance of important evidence being buried in teh ground near or within PdL. Everything contaminated will surely have been been incinerated.
This whole thing just smacks of charade. I hope I am wrong but try as I might, my optimism is just built on this surge of sudden activity. I think this 'dig' is just another stag of some other strategy.

by Cristobell 03.06.14 10:20

Does anyone think last night's Crimewatch were sending out messages to certain people with their report on the murder of Suzanne Pilley? A murder conviction based on the findings of two springer spaniels, and no body? The genuine grief of Suzanne's parents was tangible, so too their desperation to find their daughter's body and bring her home. CW showed film of vast expanses of land where Gilroy could have buried Suzanne, and the mother's pain lay in the fact that her daughter was 'out there - alone, as if no-one loved her'. The commentator repeated her words in his plea to the public for information. If those words did not tug at Kate's heart, she must be made of stone.

by Pershing36 03.06.14 10:21

russiandoll wrote:Sussex and Welsh police on the ground now in PdL with at least one Springer Spaniel running about, obeying commands in Welsh from the handler [ on Sky News]

Interesting as the other day they said the dogs would only be called in if they found anomalies on the radar. It was in the Sky News report when they explained how it was being divided into a search grid.

by notlongnow 03.06.14 10:21

jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!

Dosen't 'matter' if they 'find' anything.

(But replica Maddie pj's would come in handy)

Case closed.

Yes just saw that,is the info from todays paper's?

by russiandoll 03.06.14 10:21

The dead suspect used to go.... to do what? No other people ever took a walk on a fine day up that hill for a good view of the town and the ocean?

Did MW give a source for than info.... maybe Clarrie was on the phone to the show incognito, his voice altered thanks to a helium balloon.

by jeanmonroe 03.06.14 10:22

Digging to start next week - UPDATE... starting today 2/6/14 - Page 26 Doggy10

A "notoriously unreliable" sniffer dog, 'sniffing' around 'dig' site in PDL.

by ChippyM 03.06.14 10:23

An interesting quote from an expert in GPR at Sky news. You get much better results in dry ground so this may be why the digging was not scheduled at an earlier time, so the ground had dried out enough.

by jozi 03.06.14 10:24

jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!

Dosen't 'matter' if they 'find' anything.

(But replica Maddie pj's would come in handy)

Case closed.

Oh heck,everybody and their dog suspects K&G......except for the British Coppers !!!

by jeanmonroe 03.06.14 10:25

sami wrote:Why is Isabelle commenting on their behalf and no word from Clarence.

Both Clarence and Martin Brunt are missing at this crucial time.

SET UP A "SEARCH" FUND! "SET UP A "SEARCH" FUND!, HURRY! HURRY!

by AndyB 03.06.14 10:25

gbwales wrote:There's a proper old troll on the Guardian comments called "ID735113" - describes themselves as an amused observer, but who appears to be phenomenally interested in this forum!

Comical isn't he/she/it. Claims to have "no bias- just an open mind" then talks about "the cottage industry of McCann hate sites" and says of one comment "I assume you are [member here]* Hater and Pitchforker". There's also "Tin Foil Hat Conspiracy", although sadly not "conspiraloon". (Actually ID735113 would write it "Conspiraloon". I'm not sure why the need to capitalise the insults)

*Name removed to avoid repeating the libel

by russiandoll 03.06.14 10:25

Pershing36 wrote:
russiandoll wrote:Sussex and Welsh police on the ground now in PdL with at least one Springer Spaniel running about, obeying commands in Welsh from the handler [ on Sky News]

Interesting as the other day they said the dogs would only be called in if they found anomalies on the radar. It was in the Sky News report when they explained how it was being divided into a search grid.

Tom Parmenter from SKY said that there was good collaboration between the forces and I took it that he was ref to the PJ and SY. The Portuguese military police have been on scene and there was a military plane reported to be in the air yesterday.

by gbwales 03.06.14 10:25

tiny wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!
Well if that's the case and they still have EM in their sights, then the pj must want a cover up as well.

It's impossible to whitewash with that scenario. It cannot possibly explain lack of any intruder forensics whatsoever in 5a - alongside asking people to swallow that the perp sat there for at least 45 mins before moving the body around to get the cadaverine behind sofa, in wardrobe, on Kate's clothes - and then return 3 weeks later for another spritz on the car.

by ChippyM 03.06.14 10:29

notlongnow wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!

Dosen't 'matter' if they 'find' anything.

(But replica Maddie pj's would come in handy)

Case closed.
Yes just saw that,is the info from todays paper's?

Maybe it's conjecture based on reports that the smithman sighting was what made them search this area. MW may have read this but not have read anything further about Smithman, so presumed the sighting was of EM. Just the usual skimming of facts and accepting the rubbish in the papers with no investigation.

by HelenMeg 03.06.14 10:29

Even if they were to find remains of M - surely they would be returned to family to provide the much needed closure to the heartbroken family. That would be it. It would remain an unsolved crime but the public would then have a massive sympathy for the parents - bringing a suitable conclusion. Could the remains actually 'reveal' anything at this stage? Hopefully the PJ will try and resolve the crime regardless but at the end of the day everyone wants this case closed - hopefully there are still some that want justice. Ad far as I'm concerned I prefer the case remains open for another 20 years and justice is done.

by gbwales 03.06.14 10:29

AndyB wrote:says of one comment "I assume you are [member here]* Hater and Pitchforker".

Ha! Yes - I thought that was particularly rich: trying to "expose" someone whilst hiding behind the name "ID735113" themselves!

by notlongnow 03.06.14 10:30

gbwales wrote:
tiny wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!
Well if that's the case and they still have EM in their sights, then the pj must want a cover up as well.

It's impossible to whitewash with that scenario. It cannot possibly explain lack of any intruder forensics whatsoever in 5a - alongside asking people to swallow that the perp sat there for at least 45 mins before moving the body around to get the cadaverine behind sofa, in wardrobe, on Kate's clothes - and then return 3 weeks later for another spritz on the car.

Trouble is,who is going to really question it if they did say it was him?

by riskybuisness 03.06.14 10:30

Although the poster on the Guardian page ID735113 is obviously a McCann pro, I do have to agree with them (on one point) that some of the posts over the last few days re adding captions on the search photos, have to me seemed in bad taste. I think this has been going on for so long that it seems that sometimes the forum looses site of the fact that a little girl is missing more than likely dead and at any moment one of the pictures could be portraying the police finding her body. I will also add before anyone else does -most on here do seem to care more than her own parents ever have- but can we think a bit before humorising what could possible be a bad moment for those involved - the twins , her old nursery teachers and some other family members and the poor police digging for her or clues. Sorry if this offends those who adding the captions - but I just saying how I feel about it roses

by Justformaddie 03.06.14 10:36

notlongnow wrote:
gbwales wrote:
tiny wrote:
jeanmonroe wrote:Matthew Wright, the Wright Stuff, has just said 'this is the area (dig) where the dead 'suspect' (EM?) used to go."

So there you have it.

Dead 'suspect' did it!
Well if that's the case and they still have EM in their sights, then the pj must want a cover up as well.

It's impossible to whitewash with that scenario. It cannot possibly explain lack of any intruder forensics whatsoever in 5a - alongside asking people to swallow that the perp sat there for at least 45 mins before moving the body around to get the cadaverine behind sofa, in wardrobe, on Kate's clothes - and then return 3 weeks later for another spritz on the car.
Trouble is,who is going to really question it if they did say it was him?

But I'm confused cause smithman didn't have very dark skin, did he?

by ChippyM 03.06.14 10:40

HelenMeg wrote:Even if they were to find remains of M - surely they would be returned to family to provide the much needed closure to the heartbroken family. That would be it. It would remain an unsolved crime but the public would then have a massive sympathy for the parents - bringing a suitable conclusion. Could the remains actually 'reveal' anything at this stage? Hopefully the PJ will try and resolve the crime regardless but at the end of the day everyone wants this case closed - hopefully there are still some that want justice. Ad far as I'm concerned I prefer the case remains open for another 20 years and justice is done.

Apparently the remains of organs could provide clues and the condition of veins, the bones and teeth could be subject to chemical analysis etc. Fractures would be unafected by decomposition. I'm sure just about every method possible would be tried on any remains found.

If remains are found it would raise big questions about how death was caused and how the body was hidden within that time frame.