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Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by lj on 21.04.14 19:16

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Watching wrote:Wonder what Father Sneddon (Seddon?) thinks of it all!

Fr Seddon. Is that the man of whom it was once said "the British priest staged evrything" or am I getting confused there? Was it somebody else?

I always thought that was HHubbard, but now you bring it up it could have been S(n)eddon too!

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by lj on 21.04.14 19:18

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Watching wrote:Wonder what Father Sneddon (Seddon?) thinks of it all!

Fr Seddon. Is that the man of whom it was once said "the British priest staged evrything" or am I getting confused there? Was it somebody else?
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If IIRC it was the Portuguese priest, Pacheco, who said that.
Thanks Chatelaine. If that is the case, one has to wonder what it was exactly that was (allegedly) 'staged'. And for what reason would a priest turn up and be so inclined to 'stage' anything? If so, why? What possible difference could it make to him whether two people he once married were in a bit of a hotspot? Back to that old point of why so many people were in such a hurry to fly out to help.

This would be Father Seddon, who got a set of St. Andrews golf clubs as a present for marrying the McCanns.mver, very generous, considering  he'd be paid for theservice anyway.

Oh, I always thought you were supposed to give a gift/donation to the church, not something personal to the priest.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Guest on 21.04.14 19:19

It's the only British priest so far, isn't he?
A very strange saying, that.
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by lj on 21.04.14 19:22

Châtelaine wrote:It's the only British priest so far, isn't he?
A very strange saying, that.

It was, and it is. But maybe he tought that anyone from the British Commonwealth is British?

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Guest on 21.04.14 19:32

lj wrote:
Châtelaine wrote:It's the only British priest so far, isn't he?
A very strange saying, that.

It was, and it is. But maybe he tought that anyone from the British Commonwealth is British?
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Possible.
AFAIK he is native Canadian citizen, though.
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Post by missbeetle on 21.04.14 20:50

Father Haynes Hubbard is originally from Norfolk. Father David Neal (who attended the Mccanns night of 3rd May) is also English.

jd has written about this in the thread 'The Priests'.
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Guest on 21.04.14 21:35

He's from Norfolk, Ontario, Canada.
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Post by missbeetle on 21.04.14 21:52

Crikey!

Thank you for picking that up and pointing it out to me.

To my mind, he sounds posh English, with a mild Canadian accent.

I recall listening to a NZ radio interview with Father HH (Sept 2007?) where at one stage he said something along the lines of "...because we were English, no, because we spoke English".

He does give me itchy teeth.
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Guest on 21.04.14 21:58

Expression 'Closet Queen' ring a bell?
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Post by missbeetle on 21.04.14 22:44

I got the posh English accent feel from his Five Years On interview.

I've just seen another interview where he is wearing rather glitzy sunglasses outside the church and there his accent sounds Canadian.

He does look like he enjoys a bit of dress-up.
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by petunia on 21.04.14 23:45

Wonder how much he paid for the wristband. and why his he sweating so much.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by lj on 21.04.14 23:55

Portia wrote:Expression 'Closet Queen' ring a bell?

I don't know, Portia. Tha's not how he strikes me.


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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by tigger on 22.04.14 14:01

missbeetle wrote:Crikey!

Thank you for picking that up and pointing it out to me.

To my mind, he sounds posh English, with a mild Canadian accent.

I recall listening to a NZ radio interview with Father HH (Sept 2007?) where at one stage he said something along the lines of "...because we were English, no, because we spoke English".

He does give me itchy teeth.

But at least he confirmed that the police were looking using helicopters. He relates that they were watching the news on TV and saw the helicopters at the same time as hearing them overhead. He said something like 'we were the news.

Pity Gerry missed them completely because we have his word for it that there were no helicopters at all.
In fact as he enthusiastically explained in the Swedish interview, that was because the Portuguese have no Royal Navy.
Well they are a republic.....

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Doug D on 22.04.14 17:16

Interesting ‘spot’ posted by someone in comments on Textusa’s ‘Speed’ thread today:
 
June 23rd 2005
 
http://portugalresident.com/an-english-country-fair-in-the-western-algarve
 
‘ST VINCENT’S LOCUM ASSISTANT CHAPLAIN, FATHER HAYNES HUBBARD, HIS WIFE SUSAN and children Gabriel and Sebastian, put their full energy into the day. Although occupying only a brief tenure, FATHER HAYNES, whose parish is in Ontario near Niagara Falls, inspired HIS LUZ CONGREGATION and was clearly a hit among visitors to the fair. He has now left for pastures new and we wish him and his family well’.
 
So he was returning to PdL in 2007.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by russiandoll on 22.04.14 18:11

You beat me to it dougd.... interesting indeed. HH had been there before and was familiar with PdL.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Guest on 22.04.14 18:11

I knew knew that he'd been in Algarve before 2007 ... Good find!
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by tigger on 22.04.14 18:40

Doug D wrote:Interesting ‘spot’ posted by someone in comments on Textusa’s ‘Speed’ thread today:
 
June 23rd 2005
 
http://portugalresident.com/an-english-country-fair-in-the-western-algarve
 
‘ST VINCENT’S LOCUM ASSISTANT CHAPLAIN, FATHER HAYNES HUBBARD, HIS WIFE SUSAN and children Gabriel and Sebastian, put their full energy into the day. Although occupying only a brief tenure, FATHER HAYNES, whose parish is in Ontario near Niagara Falls, inspired HIS LUZ CONGREGATION and was clearly a hit among visitors to the fair. He has now left for pastures new and we wish him and his family well’.
 
So he was returning to PdL in 2007.

More information about his career would be in Crockfords, most libraries have copies in the reference section.

Can't recall him ever mentioning this earlier posting which would be the most natural thing to do.
Short posting with two school age children? Where exactly were those pastures new for the next 18 - 20 months?

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Monty Heck on 22.04.14 19:15

Nina wrote:
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lj wrote:I know it is not very constructive, but I have to rant about "father" Hubbard. This man truly gives me the creeps. The way he  talks down to everyone. Is that because of his "profession" or is he like Kate and Gerry: empty vessel that make a lot of noise.

I would not trust him with anything.

It does make you wonder why "he" was brought in to PDL all the way from Canada.   There must have been numerous fathers/priests nearer to Portugal who could have been brought in.   I remember reading somewhere that the McCanns have family somewhere in Canada, I think they had a holiday out there a few years ago after Madeleine disappeared.  It would be interesting to know if he has a connection to the family.

I do remember his arrival had been planned before this whole thing erupted. He is just one of those opportunist that won't let any disaster go to waste. He must have been in "heaven": a new post at the Mediterranean and daily his face on tv. He fitted in nicely with the other narcissists.  
lj, your comment in bold (mine) spot on, IMO.  HH seemed to divide his PDL flock into two camps; those who found him charismatic (in the religious as well as wordly sense) and those who cordially disliked him.  Some even boycotted his services but made a point of attending when any another cleric was officiating.  Whether liked and disliked in equal measure is not possible to say but the Hubbards' open devotion to the McCs did not go down well universally, by any means.

As to the use of 'Father', the PDL Anglican congregation do routinely use the term but combine 'Father' plus first name, so Father Haynes rather than Father Hubbard.  Other Anglican priests related to that congregation were addressed in the same way so nothing unusual in that.  
 
HH arrival in PDL was many months in the planning, as there was a lengthy period of negotiation before all was agreed to the satisfaction of all parties, then the chaplaincy house was given a thorough overhaul and update to accommodate a priest with a young family for the first time in a very long time, if not ever.  That the Hubbards arrived just after the disappearance was one of those mutually serendipitous occurrences.  HH was catapulted from obscurity onto the world stage as the priest forever associated with that situation which, as others have pointed out he seems to have relished.  For their part the McCs gained extremely useful friends who were PR gold, and so could craft their own lasting assocation with a (happily) photogenic religious backdrop.
A snip from your excellent post Monty Heck,    then the chaplaincy house was given a thorough overhaul and update to accommodate a priest with a young family for the first time in a very long time, if not ever.
This overhaul/refurb wasn't quite completed when the Hubbards arrived, and they had to stay somewhere else for a few days, for the life in me I cannot remember where, nor find a link, just remember them not being able to move straight in. There is also a small chapel in the Chaplaincy, so consecrated. The residence is very close to the Church. Not saying, just wondering.
The chaplaincy house is rather an ordinary looking house and from the outside doesn't appear large enough to accommodate 2 adults and three children plus  chapel.  The garden is rather small and there didn't appear to be any outbuilding which could serve that purpose but these are my observations only.  Also, it's not that close to the church as it's right on the other side of the bay, close to the Rocha Negra and the path to the trig point above.  If there is a link somewhere regarding a chapel located at the chaplaincy house, be (genuinely) interested to see that.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Nereid on 23.04.14 11:02

A little bit more about his earlier stay in Praia da Luz:

https://web.archive.org/web/20070520040440/http://www.stvincentsalgarve.org/news.htm

However, Fr. Haynes and his family are no strangers to the Algarve having spent two months here in 2007 (I think this should be 2005) when, following the retirement of Rev. David Kirby, he acted as locum for the congregation at Praia de Luz. Of his new appointment he said, “St. Vincent’s Chaplaincy has been established for thirty years and it is a privilege to build on that long tradition and to continue to work to develop its role in the lives of all those who have made their homes in the Algarve. Having made many friends here during a previous visit, it is almost a homecoming.”

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And there is this interesting little titbit:



http://niagaraanglican.ca/newspaper/docs/2007/april.pdf



"The Reverend Haynes Hubbard submitted his resignation as Rector of St. Paul's, Dunnville, and the Dunn Parish, effective April 30. Haynes has accepted a position in the Diocese of Europe, specifically as Chaplain at St. Vincent's, Algarve, Portugal, beginning May 1."



The Niagara Anglican is a monthly publication, and the mention of Hubbard's resignation was in the April 2007 issue. I don't know how long the process of taking up a new position is in the Anglican Church, but it seems to have happened rather quickly.

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http://prayerbook.ca/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Ottawa-Branch-Newsletter-Lent-2007.pdf



In this Newsletter of December 2006 he was still listed as one of the Speakers for the 2007 National Cranmer Conference "“Anglicanism, Stirred Not Shaken”:



The 2nd Cranmer Conference, planned by the Grand Valley Branch and the Greater Niagara Branch of the PBSC, will run from Friday June 1st through to Sunday June 3rd (Trinity Sunday) at St Paul’s, Dunnville.

Speakers and Leaders this year include: Fr Haynes Hubbard, Chaplain to the Conference and Rector of the host parish of St Paul’s, Dunnville; the award-winning author Sue Careless, who visited us this past fall; Dr William Renwick, professor at McMaster University, parish organist in Hamilton, and music director of the Conference; and Bishop Anthony Burton who will be the principal speaker.



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Post by tigger on 23.04.14 15:07

Thank you Nereid, to say that is interesting information is an understatement.  roses 

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The Gene Genie...?

Post by missbeetle on 05.06.14 9:08

A couple of thoughts about Haynes Hubbard and family...

Where did Mrs Hubbard learn to speak Portuguese?

Which daughter of theirs played Madeleine in the Cutting Edge documentary?
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by haroldd2 on 05.06.14 11:33

Long shot: Haynes Hubbard isn't related to L Ron Hubbard the founder of Scientology, is he?

This 2006 newsletter from the Anglican church community in Niagara, Ontario, mentions both Rev Haynes Hubbard and Deacon Ron Hubbard (a different Ron of course!).

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In the cupboard with Hubbard...?

Post by missbeetle on 05.06.14 22:08

I'm wondering - and speculating - if the Hubbards may have been the relatives Kate thought about handing Madeleine over to?

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In the following article, Michael Wright is down as 'Michael White' - White is Mrs Hubbard's maiden name.

...and only their youngest child seems to be around the age of the McCann twins.

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Itchy teeth...!
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Hicks on 05.06.14 22:24

Well slap my thigh!!... Just looked on a certain Facebook page and it seems that our Reverend Hubbard got married in July 2008!  So does that mean another couple entwined in this scam have split up? Was he ever married to Susan in the first place? confused.com

Worth a look.
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard 5 year on

Post by Hicks on 05.06.14 23:07

Have doubled checked and triple checked and it is him.

My mind is wandering....was he ever really married to Susan? His Daughter Gabriel in on his friends list, she must have been the girl who played Madeleine in the reconstruction. No mention who his current wife is only that he got married in July 2008.

I am wondering if Susan might be the 'biological cousin'.
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