Re: The Strange World of Jeffrey Epstein

by Verdi 26.12.19 12:10

CaKeLoveR wrote:That was not chosen by accident, was it? What a despicable thing to do to the child.

Keep things in perspective! Whatever you might think of Prince Andrew, he is not a child molester - he is not into little children. Any more than Epstein was.

He was and still is a member of the royal family, perfectly understandable he would be included in photographs with the rest of the family members.

This BBC vigilante has got way out of hand. You can find rot anywhere if you look hard enough.

by Guest 26.12.19 13:10

He is not a child molester, but the choice of that 'photo will put the idea in some heads that he is. Milo summed it up - silly boy Andrew!

by Verdi 26.12.19 14:09

Any more than Clement Freud was an infant child molester, yet folk still like to look for a connection to link him with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. with the word paedophile in mind at all times.

Folk should stop being absorbed by salacious gossip spread abroad by the press.

High profile personalities abuse their position in society, they think they can get away with anything and do - until they're caught out.

Meanwhile the more serious situation of widescale child abuse within the establishment continues unabated apart from throwing the spotlight on Asian gangs and poor old Prince Andrew caught with his trousers down - if indeed he is guilty as charged!

by **PeterMac** 27.12.19 8:57

More Sanctimonious Perverts . . .
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Nauseating. But all too predictable.

by **PeterMac** 28.12.19 14:48

by **Jill Havern** 06.01.20 7:42

Darren of Plymouth

@DarrenPlymouth
"Talking of you perverts, it was a big year for pedophile movies..."

Ricky Gervais gives it to the Hollywood elite (5th time)

"... in the end he obviously didn't kill himself, just like Jeffrey Epstein... shut up I know he's your friend"

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Bloody hilarious from Ricky

And the comments on here are great too:

Slate
@Slate
Just how big a jerk was Ricky Gervais at the Golden Globes?

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by **Jill Havern** 07.01.20 10:55

60 Minutes
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“I have never seen three fractures like this in a suicidal hanging.”

Dr. Michael Baden lays out the forensic reasons why he’s skeptical of the medical examiner’s ruling that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. **This video contains graphic images.**

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by **PeterMac** 08.01.20 21:38

Well no. It is consistent with a garrotting with piano wire.
I have seen several (too many) self inflicted hangings, and even with my infinitesimally small experience it doesn't look 'right'.

by Verdi 09.01.20 0:24

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by Guest 09.01.20 8:25

Woking.

by plebgate 09.01.20 9:50

CaKeLoveR wrote:Woking.

by Verdi 10.01.20 1:01

Jeffrey Epstein: Jail CCTV erased by 'technical errors'

3 hours ago

Surveillance video from disgraced financier Jeffrey Epstein's first suspected suicide attempt was destroyed by accident, prosecutors say.

US attorneys say the jail mistakenly saved footage from the wrong cell.

Epstein, a convicted sex offender, hanged himself in jail in August while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges.

He had pleaded not guilty to sexually abusing dozens of girls, some as young as 14.

The issue over this footage comes from the case of Nicholas Tartaglione, a former New York police officer who shared a cell with Epstein in July.

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Well there's a novelty - what a coincidence roll

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Do these people think the public are that stupid, or do they not even care? I'll go with the latter. They can say whatever they like as we, the people, can say whatever we like .... well, within reason. Question is - who's reason?

We live in a world of make believe.

by Guest 10.01.20 7:21

It took them a while to come up with this 'accident', didn't it? They 're laughing at us. The PTB always do.

by **PeterMac** 10.01.20 7:35

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by Guest 10.01.20 7:58

Are there no people with authority willing to take this on?

Deleted tapes?

It's just an outrage.

by Guest 10.01.20 8:18

Anybody who did try to take this on would probably also meet with an unforeseen suicide.

by **PeterMac** 10.01.20 8:49

The people with the Authority to take it on are the very same people who have a vested interest in ensuring that it is not taken on.
Mike Todd, Dr Kelly, Jill Dando, Brenda Leyland, Halligen, and many others are investigated by the "Authorities" and when the transcript of the inquest is released it becomes apparent that none of the important issues were addressed, or the important questions asked.
In The Feather Men Fiennes showed how good preparation could mislead even the most diligent of enquiries.
More recently they are not even bothering to do it properly, as it now seems to be assumed that the enquiry will start from its conclusion, and only look for and then find evidence which supports that.

Dr Kelly was supposed to have died from exsanguination after 'cutting his wrist'. A first year medical student will tell you that is simply not possible. The radial artery is very small, and in any event will close up up after trauma to control the flow.
see http://drkellysdeath-timeforthetruth.blogspot.com/2012/05/death-and-single-cut-wrist-artery.html

Mike Todd was supposed to have died of exposure after drinking a half-bottle of gin and wandered up a small hill in Snowdonia. A half-bottle is 375 ml. A modern 'double' G&T can be 70ml, (previously it was 50, but the strength permitted has gone down from 40º to 35º). A domestic measure will be far bigger than that. So 4 or 5 decent G&Ts is a half bottle. Over the limit for driving, but unlikely to affect a Senior Police Officer who would consider 3 before dinner on Mess Night fairly normal.

The Authorities are the issue.

by Guest 10.01.20 11:01

Vince Foster in the US is another who was suicided.

No question about it.

Strangely the same people seem to be implicated.

by **Jill Havern** 12.01.20 17:01

Ex-Scotland Yard Detective Reveals How London Police Protect Pedo Rings

by Doug D 27.01.20 17:54

No timescale given as to when he was contacted, but presumably long enough ago that they would have expected to have received a response by now, hence this external pressure.

'Zero co-operation' from Andrew during Epstein inquiry, prosecutor says

Monday 27 January 2020 17:31, UK

Prince Andrew has been accused of offering 'zero' cooperation

Prince Andrew has provided "zero co-operation" with the Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking investigation, a US prosecutor has said.

Geoffrey Berman, Manhattan's top federal prosecutor, said his team - as well as the FBI - had contacted the prince's lawyers and asked to interview him.

"To date, Prince Andrew has provided zero cooperation," Mr Berman said while speaking at a news conference outside Epstein's New York mansion.

Buckingham Palace has been contacted for comment.

Last year, Prince Andrew announced he was withdrawing from royal duties amid renewed attention of his friendship with Epstein, who was a convicted paedophile.

It also came after a disastrous interview with the BBC about the friendship, as well as allegations by Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who claims she had several sexual encounters with the prince, starting when she was 17.

Ms Giuffre, now a mother-of-three, said that after meeting Epstein in Florida in 2000, he flew her around the world and pressured her into having sex with numerous older men, including Andrew, two senior politicians and a noted academic among others.

All of those men have denied the allegations.

She claims to have had sex with Andrew three times on Epstein's instructions, including once in London in 2001 at the home of Epstein's girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell.

Both Andrew and Maxwell - who are old friends - have denied any knowledge that Epstein was sexually abusing teenage girls.

During the BBC Newsnight interview last year, Andrew insisted he was out having pizza with his children on the night Ms Giuffre says they were together in London.

The interview was widely criticised, with much of the criticism coming from Andrew's failure to express sympathy for victims of Epstein, who was awaiting trial accused of trafficking girls for sex.

He had already served time in prison in 2008 for prostituting underage girls.

Andrew stayed at his house two years later, telling Newsnight it had been "a convenient place to stay" and thought it was "the honourable and right thing to do" after visiting him to end their friendship.

US attorney general William Barr has vowed to aggressively investigate and bring charges against anyone who may have helped Epstein, who killed himself in his jail cell last summer while he was awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges.

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by **PeterMac** 27.01.20 20:55

let me guess . .
He has been advised by his lawyer to say nothing.
Where did we hear that before ?
Oh, yes. Kate Mccann refused to answer any further questions, ON THE ADVICE OF HER LAWYER
and the pro-parents say that is absolutely correct, which in law it obviously is IF, and only IF you are being accused of something, but NOT if those police are trying to find your missing child.

So that's all right then.

Here the DoY/PA is very clearly going to be accused of all sorts of things, so clearly he needs a lawyer and has the right under PACE in the UK and the 5th Amendment of the Constitution in the US to remain silent.

by Doug D 28.01.20 12:56

PNot Epstein or Andrew, but former Belgian King has been denying it since 1999!

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by Verdi 28.01.20 15:38

'Zero co-operation' from Andrew during Epstein inquiry, prosecutor says

Who can blame him? As far as I'm aware, it is only one of Epstein's alleged captives that named Prince Andrew.

If he's subpoenaed then so be it. If there are additional women who claim to have been abused by Prince Andrew, then let's hear of it.

Otherwise leave the bloke alone, stop speculating and wait ....

by **sharonl** 28.01.20 19:50

Where are the investigations into Epsteins other friends? Where are media reports? Andrew befriended a paedophile after he had been exposed, he may slept with a number of woman but apart from being a womaniser, if he was, and befriending Epstein, where is the evidence that he has committed a crime?

If he was knowingly up to no good with an underage girl, would he be daft enough to stand there and pose for the evidence? More so, does Roberts look like she's being forced into doing something against her will? Or this this another case of smile for the camera in case you influence your abuser?

How old was Roberts really when that pic was taken?

It seems to me that Andrew is being named and shamed to draw attention away from the real abusers. But, even if I'm wrong, I find Roberts claims very dubious, especially years later and after Epsteins' death.

by Guest 28.01.20 19:57

With the Harkle's behaviour, and PA being the only friend of Epstein's being named, I'm beginning to wonder if there is a plot against the royal family. Stranger things have happened.

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