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Post by Tony Bennett 23.11.16 10:53

The claim that the Podesta brothers, John and Tony, closely resemble the two mystery efits drawn up by ex-MI5 Head of Covert Intelligence, Henri Exton, in spring 2008, continues to circulate around the internet. These two efits are supposed to be ‘Smithman’, a claim I have tried to debunk on the Smithman threads here. No serious Madeleine McCann researcher thinks that the Podesta emails and the photos of the Podesta brothers have anything to do with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann. 

But thanks to Wikileaks and other researchers, all sorts of connections are now coming to light. And perhaps there is a connection of sorts between the Podesta emails and the Madeleine McCann case. 

If there is a connection, then it might be via Ernie Allen, the Chief Executive for many years of the U.S. equivalent of ‘Missing People’, NCMEC and also Chairman for many years of ICMEC – a powerful interrnational missing people’s organization. 

Most here will recall Gerry McCann’s rush to visit Washington – centre of the Podesta email scandal, of course, in July 2007 -where he actually spent 5 whole days (22 to 26 July) . Here is Gerry with Ernie on that visit:

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The personality and background of Ernie Allen, and his sources of funding, have been of concern to some on the forum, especially sharonl.       

Here by the way is one of the blogs Gerry wrote from his Washington trip, on 24 July. As can be seen, it’s full of his meetings with NCMEC.

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Another busy day in Washington. Started early on at NCMEC with interviews from 6.15am for the five major US TV networks morning news shows. A very serious issues programme 20-20 was also recording our visit to the America, as they will also be producing a piece on the search to find Madeleine.

Late morning we had a visit to the White House to meet with the First Lady’s deputy chief of staff Sarah Armstrong. This visit was facilitated by Lady Catherine Meyer, founder of the British charity PACT, which is an affiliate of ICMEC and has done so much to raise awareness of missing children in the UK. Mrs Bush is a strong supporter of child welfare issues and is in fact an Honorary Board member of ICMEC. They were already aware of Madeleines disappearance and I took the opportunity to fill them in on my visit to Washington, particularly the work we are doing with ICMEC and the meeting we had with the attorney general. We finished with a very quick tour of the public areas in the White House which is a very impressive building and we also met one of the Presidents Scottish terriers! Immediately following the visit I did a few interviews for the British Media in front of the White House.

After a very brief lunch it was on to Capitol Hill for meetings with politicians who have been instrumental in getting the Adam Walsh BIll and others passed. We met with Democrat congressman Nick Lampson and Republican Senator Robert Shelby who both know the board members of NCMEC very well. They were both very keen to do what they could to help find Madeleine and the support during the visit we have received has been tremendous.

I spoke to Kate and the kids, whose telephone skills are developing very quickly which is nice for me when I am away like this. Kate has stayed on in Portugal and has been keeping in touch with the police but there are no major developments to report. In the evening I managed to meet up with a friend from Glasgow who is also a cardiologist and working in the Washington area. We went for a bite to eat and it was good to sit down quietly with a familiar face for an hour or two.

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What has generated some interest is this Wikileaks link: 

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Invitation: Virgin Unite Cocktail Party

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Date: 2015-08-20 13:07 Subject: Invitation: Virgin Unite Cocktail Party 

Dear John, I hope your Summer has been going well.

Attached is an invitation to a cocktail reception in NY on September 25th with Richard Branson and Virgin Unite, to celebrate the SDGs.

We hope you will be able to attend. It should be fun – especially celebrating an SDG entirely about the ocean.

Best, Karen -----

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This invitation is basically from Richard Branson to John Podesta. 

Some researchers have noted the close connections between these four people:

JOHN PODESTA
RICHARD BRANSON (Virgin Group, Necker Island etc.)
JEFFREY EPSTEIN (Paedophile, close friend of Prince Andrew) and
ERNIE ALLEN – Head of international missing persons organisations and friend of Gerry McCann.
 

All I can offer for the moment is a few links. It may be that the Podesta-Branson-Epstein-Allen-McCann link amounts to nothing at all. But here are some starting points if someone wants to look further into the links:
 

NECKER ISLAND and MOSQUITO ISLAND 

6-minute video of Necker Island made by a guest [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]: 

JEFFREY EPSTEIN’S CONTACT LIST – RUNNING TO 97 PAGES 

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There is more elsewhere about the Branson - Epstein links. 

DISCUSSION ON REDDIT 

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Richard Branson is the British Jeffery Epstein- Includes direct Hillary connection (idk if this has been posted yet, looked into it and may be something big) 

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ICMEC Photo Details. Sir Richard Branson and Eve Branson with the Board of ICMEC; per flickr image includes from Top Left:

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Charlie Morrison,
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Ambassador Elizabeth Bagley
Eve Branson
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Patty Wetterling
Victor Halberstadt
Helga Long,
Nancy Kelly
Dan Cohen,
Nancy Dube,
Per-Olof Loof,
Dan Broughto
Maud de Boer Buquicchio
Franz HumerSenator Denis DeConcini
 

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Ernie Allen
Richard Branson
James Cannavino - Direct Insite Corp
Tim Cranton General Counsel - Statement Worldwide Internet Safety
Osamu Nagayama
 


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  • ICMEC held its first Board of Directors meeting in May 1998. It was officially launched in April 1999 at the British Embassy in Washington, D.C., by Hillary Clinton, then-First Lady of the United States, and Cherie Blair, wife of British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

  • [size=16]In November 2014, Ambassador Maura Harty was appointed President & CEO of ICMEC
    The Board of Directors of ICMEC includes: Mary Banotti, Daniel Cardon de Lichtbuer, Raymond F. Schinazi
    ICMEC Inaugural Gala Gotham Hall NYC | May 7 2015 : 193 Photos with Names
    Black Tie : ICMEC May 2015 Photos
    US European Summit on Missing & Exploited Children OCT 2005 Roche Forum Buonas, Switzerland .pdf
    Office of Children's Issues
    The Office of Children's Issues is an agency of the Bureau of Consular Affairs, which in turn is part of the U.S. Department of State. The Office of Children’s Issues was created in 1994 under the leadership of Assistant Secretary of State for Consular Affairs Mary Ryan and that of her successor Maura Harty. The Office of Children's Issues develops and coordinates policies and programs related to international child abduction. In this respect, it is the U.S. Central Authority under the terms of the Hague Convention on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction and the Hague Convention on Protection of Children and Co-operation in Respect of Intercountry Adoption.
    WePROTECT
    WePROTECT is a global alliance led by the UK government, founded by Baroness Joanna Shields and supported by over 63 countries, 20 technology companies and 30 NGOs to stop the global crime of online child sexual abuse and exploitation. Chairman: Ernie Allen [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]
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Anon broke down a few things on Amb Elizabeth Frawley Bagley & ironically I was researching her deep/longtime ties to the DNC & Clinton Cabal a few months ago. Her husband Smith Bagley died in 2010, was an heir to RJ Reynolds fortune, a prominent Democratic fundraiser & DC/Georgetown socialite (Tobacco). The couple has two children Vaughan Elizabeth Bagley and Conor Reynolds Bagley. Elizabeth Bagley is on NDI (National Democratic Institute) Board of Directors

Within a few years, the headlines were less flattering. In 1980, Mr. Bagley settled a civil suit with the Securities and Exchange Commission over government charges that he and others artificially inflated the price of the stock of the Washington Group, a North Carolina textile and food conglomerate he led.

Months earlier, a U.S. District Court jury in Richmond had found Mr. Bagley and four other defendants innocent of all criminal charges in a related stock manipulation and conspiracy case. The company went bankrupt in June 1977. Both the judge and Mr. Bagley accused the Justice Department of overzealous prosecution.

His marriages to Sandra Peabody Robinson and Vicki Bagley ended in divorce.

Survivors include his wife of 26 years, Elizabeth Frawley Bagley of Washington; a son from his first marriage, Walker Bagley of Lexington, Ky.; three children from his second marriage, Nancy Reynolds Bagley and Nicole Ladmer Bagley, both of Washington, and Brett Dylan Bagley of New York; two children from his third marriage, Vaughan Elizabeth Bagley and Conor Reynolds Bagley, both of Washington; a sister, Susan Bagley Bloom of Vancouver, Canada; and five grandchildren.1

Smith Bagley, Executive and Democratic Fund-Raiser, Dies at 74

Over the years, the Bagleys frequently opened their homes to fund-raising events for Democratic candidates, including Presidents Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, Vice President Al Gore and Senators Edward M. Kennedy and John Kerry. Last year they raised $600,000 to help pay for events celebrating President Obama’s inauguration.

Among his civic activities, he was president of the Arca Foundation, which focuses on social equity in developing countries

Smith Bagley funeral a gathering of his fellow Democrats

"After all these years -- decades of friendship -- this is the first event I've attended for him," said Bill Clinton, who delivered the closing eulogy at Georgetown's Holy Trinity Catholic Church. "This man, notwithstanding the circumstances in which he was born or the wealth he generated for himself, always found a way to give more than he took."

The church was packed with family and friends: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, former DNC chair Terry McAuliffe, former secretary of state Madeleine Albright, members of Congress, and plenty of people who benefited from Bagley's deep-pocket, behind-the-scenes generosity.

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Probably rubbish but one does wonder.
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Probably rubbish but one does wonder.
It is complete rubbish - a wholesale fabrication.

The original source for this has claimed that Suffolk Police have confirmed that 'Sir Clement Freud was absent from his Praia da Luz villa in May 2007 when Madeleine was abducted and had hired out his villa to the Podesta brothers'.

I'm afraid that as soon as this was posted on the internet, loads of people cut-and-pasted this as 'fact', without checking whether the source had linked to any original source.

Which of course he hadn't.

So the result is that there are hundreds, maybe thousands, out there who now believe this rubbish.

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Verdi 23.11.16 12:27

Nothing will lead me to believe the Podesta brothers had any direct connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - stuff and nonsense!

However..  reading the very interesting detailed research into who's who in this extensive network of deception, I can clearly see a reason to think Gerry McCann, or a source close to the family, might have influence or be affiliated with, a wealthy powerful global organisation of very dubious players - it would certainly go a long way towards explaining the apparent mass cover-up of Madeleine McCann's mysterious disappearance.

I could never understand why Gerry McCann made that trip to the US of A, other than to append his name to the Whitehouse and the chance for a 'man about town' photo-shoot.  This one sentence snipped from his blog entry is the key..

"They were both [Democrat congressman Nick Lampson and Republican Senator Robert Shelby] very keen to do what they could to help find Madeleine and the support during the visit we have received has been tremendous."


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Gerry McCann in Washington  [less than three months after the disappearance of his three year old child, Madeleine]

My question - how can the US of A 'help find Madeleine', a child that allegedly disappeared from her holiday bed alongside her two sleeping siblings, when left alone at night by her parents?  Normal course of events, that would be straightforward policing - why not in this case?

NB:  Sir Richard Branson is a patron of the Missing People Charity UK.  Virgin airlines flew Gerry McCann to Washington.  Sir Richard Branson hosted a fund raising charity bash at his prestigious Kensington Roof Gardens venue for the Find Madeleine campaign.  Sir Richard Branson was so convinced of the McCanns innocence, he reportedly offered a considerable sum of money to help with their legal defence.

Then of course Kate McCann's reference, in her novel, to phone calls with Cherie Blair and contact with Lady Catherine 'my husband stole my children' Meyer - she of PACT fame!

Seems to me, that whilst the name McCann is always on the periphery, the name is in reality 'in the thick of it' - to coin a phrase.

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Post by Verdi 23.11.16 12:36

Tony Bennett wrote:I'm afraid that as soon as this was posted on the internet, loads of people cut-and-pasted this as 'fact', without checking whether the source had linked to any original source.

Which of course he hadn't.

So the result is that there are hundreds, maybe thousands, out there who now believe this rubbish.
Par for the course I fear!  Once a rumour grows a pair of legs there's no stopping it - gains momentum until it's all but impossible to erase.

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Post by sallypelt 23.11.16 12:38

Verdi wrote:Nothing will lead me to believe the Podesta brothers had any direct connection with the disappearance of Madeleine McCann - stuff and nonsense!

However..  reading the very interesting detailed research into who's who in this extensive network of deception, I can clearly see a reason to think Gerry McCann, or a source close to the family, might have influence or be affiliated with, a wealthy powerful global organisation of very dubious players - it would certainly go a long way towards explaining the apparent mass cover-up of Madeleine McCann's mysterious disappearance.

I could never understand why Gerry McCann made that trip to the US of A, other than to append his name to the Whitehouse and the chance for a 'man about town' photo-shoot.  This one sentence snipped from his blog entry is the key..

"They were both [Democrat congressman Nick Lampson and Republican Senator Robert Shelby] very keen to do what they could to help find Madeleine and the support during the visit we have received has been tremendous."


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Gerry McCann in Washington  [less than three months after the disappearance of his three year old child, Madeleine]

My question - how can the US of A 'help find Madeleine', a child that allegedly disappeared from her holiday bed alongside her two sleeping siblings, when left alone at night by her parents?  Normal course of events, that would be straightforward policing - why not in this case?

NB:  Sir Richard Branson is a patron of the Missing People Charity UK.  Virgin airlines flew Gerry McCann to Washington.  Sir Richard Branson hosted a fund raising charity bash at his prestigious Kensington Roof Gardens venue for the Find Madeleine campaign.  Sir Richard Branson was so convinced of the McCanns innocence, he reportedly offered a considerable sum of money to help with their legal defence.

Then of course Kate McCann's reference, in her novel, to phone calls with Cherie Blair and contact with Lady Catherine 'my husband stole my children' Meyer - she of PACT fame!

Seems to me, that whilst the name McCann is always on the periphery, the name is in reality 'in the thick of it' - to coin a phrase.

"I could never understand why Gerry McCann made that trip to the US of A"
Exactly, Verdi, exactly!

It is something that has always puzzled me.
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Post by sallypelt 23.11.16 12:44

I don't know if this has already been posted, or how much truth there is in it:

The Podesta Brothers Revealed to be in Portugal the Day of Madeleine McCann’s Disappearance:

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I hate to link this dismal website (take some disinfectant), but a quick google search helped me find the full [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. Going to have a quick comb through it and see if there are any other links.

Edit - already found Tony Blair, Matthew Freud and Sophie Dahl, daughter of [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]. I'm sure most people have seen the linked clip..

ETA 2 - I notice he has AVIS international saved. Gerry was in phone contact with AVIS Lagos many times, despite it not being the source of the Renault Scenic.
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Post by Tony Bennett 23.11.16 13:20

Verdi wrote:NB: 

1. Sir Richard Branson is a patron of the Missing People Charity UK. 
2. Virgin airlines flew Gerry McCann to Washington. 
3. Sir Richard Branson hosted a fund raising charity bash at his prestigious Kensington Roof Gardens venue for the Find Madeleine campaign. 
4. Sir Richard Branson was so convinced of the McCanns' innocence, he reportedly offered a considerable sum of money to help with their legal defence.


Then of course Kate McCann's reference, in her novel, to 'phone calls with Cherie Blair and contact with Lady Catherine 'my husband stole my children' Meyer - she of PACT fame!

Seems to me, that whilst the name McCann is always on the periphery, the name is in reality 'in the thick of it' - to coin a phrase.
Yes @ Verdi, the above four points re Branson are noteworthy.

Also noteworthy are the Richard Branson-Jeffrey Epstein links which I might bring to the forum soon if no-one else does in the meantime.     

But the focus here must be on the connections between the McCanns and Ernie Allen, ICMEC and Missing People. The choice of Kate McCann to act as an Ambassador for Missing People is astounding since it is her case, as set out in her book, 'madeleine', that she and Gerry did leave their three children under four alone at night for significant periods. How can that possibly be a recommendation for a group wich presumably wants to stop people going missing in the first place?    

The Patrons of Missing People are curious. Clff Richard was one. Stephen Fry is another. And of course Sir Richard Branson. Missing People is part of Ernie Allen's vast international misisng people organisation, ICMEC.  

And my photo of an ICMEC gathering showed Washington-based Ernie Allen right alongside Richard Branson (bottom left). 

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ICMEC is an establishment organisation, not a grassroots one.    

Let's be clear. The Podesta emails/Pizzagate scandal has lifted the lid on international child trafficking for sexual purposes. How widespread and extensive it has been, and who is involved in it, remains to be seen, but one hopes an active FBI investigation into what has been revealed is already under way.

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There are those who have claimed that both Ernie Allen's NCMEC and ICMEC and Britain's Missing People ae, in part at least, 'front' organisations for something sinister.

It is very curious how much time Gerry McCann spent with Ernie Allen and NCMEC in Washington. What did they talk about for several days?


Here's another Gerry blog for that period:

From 23 July 2007, first full day of Gerry's five-day visit to Washington:



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Very busy day and I was almost asleep by the time I got back to the hotel so apologies for not posting the blog earlier.

We started off by spending the morning at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). We had a tour of the NCMEC led by President Ernie Allen who has been there for 23 years and there is little he does not about [sic] missing children.

The work done at NCMEC is extremely impressive. It coordinates information for all missing children and it was the center that pushed for the implementation of the early warning missing child (AMBER) alert throughout the USA. The center was also instrumental along with the founder, John Walsh, in getting the Adam Walsh bill passed on the 25th anniversary of the young boys murder.

NCMEC officials organised a meeting with the US attorney general Gonzales at the justice department. He was already aware of Madeleine’s disappearance and has made child protection a major concern for him. I explained in a little more detail regarding Madeleine’s case and the fact that she is still missing after 81 days. He was very supportive of the campaign to keep Madeleines profile high and of the work that we are doing with NCMEC and its International division (ICMEC).

We went back to NCMEC in the afternoon and I had detailed discussions with some of the experts there regarding Madeleines disappearance. We also had a board meeting with ICMEC regarding working together on other developments in raising the profile of missing children particularly using internet resources.

Finished the day off with an interview for Americas Most Wanted who have been following Madeleines abduction almost since the beginning. The programme is actually hosted by John Walsh and has massive viewing figures of around 12 million.

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Post by MayMuse 23.11.16 13:49

Thank you for all this information, spreads deeper and wider this "agenda" 

Note. GM mentions interest by and interviews with 20/20 and Americas Most Wanted.
Where are these "shows" about Madeleine's disappearance, were they ever aired? 

Being as YouTube is awash with videos about the McCanns and their daughter and MSM print even the smallest , even if not factual, blurb I'm surprised that these "programmes" have not had a mention, other than on GM's blog? 

As far as I recall their "story" was only aired on Oprah? 

If anyone has any links reference 20/20 and AMW would appreciate. .

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Epstein’s ‘little black book’ was blogged by Aangirfan back in Jan 2015, with a more comprehensive list than in the above article.
 
The list is taken from the whole of his 97 page ‘contacts’ address book and shows how well connected he was.
 
No suggestion that they were all involved in anything untoward.
 
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The blue link right at the start of the blog takes you to the copied pages of the actual address book, which has a few runs of alphabetical order, so not straightforward as a reference document, with ‘all’ 97 pages (although only 92 pages copied seemingly).
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Post by Verdi 23.11.16 15:32

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The Patrons of Missing People are curious. Clff Richard was one. Stephen Fry is another. And of course Sir Richard Branson. Missing People is part of Ernie Allen's vast international misisng people organisation, ICMEC.  
I didn't know that!

To parents, “our basic message is get that [personal computer] out of the bedroom and put it in a public place and set some limits and know what your kids are doing,” said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

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I wonder where Jim Gamble, former chief executive of the CEOP, fits in with all this.  I should be very surprised if he didn't have at least a working relationship with Enie Allen and the ICMEC, if not a personal connection.

NB:  Stephen Fry remains on the pending list waiting until further notice.

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Tony Bennett wrote:I wonder where Jim Gamble, former chief executive of the CEOP, fits in with all this.  I should be very surprised if he didn't have at least a working relationship with Enie Allen and the ICMEC, if not a personal connection.
@ Verdi

You must be psychic.

This article on the U.S. Department of Justice website was from 2010, though, the year that Gamble later resigned.

Ernie Allen spends the best part of 5 days showing Gerry McCann around his posh NCMEC headquarters, just weeks after Madeleine goes missing. When people are supposed to be 'searching for Maddie'.

Jim Gamble sets up a CEOP page for Madeleine in double quick time...demands photos from Praia da Luz holidaymakers which he never shows to the Portuguese police...goes on telly every so often with Gerry...produces a viral 'One Minute' video for the McCanns...gets Gerry to speak at his paedophilia conference...writes the initial scoping report for Operation Grange...when he resigns, Gerry (despite  not having got Madeleine back) praises Gamble to the skies...and now Gamble regularly bats for the McCanns on Twitter, denouncing all McCann-doubters...

...and Ernie Allen is 'best mates' with Richard Branson, who is best mates with both John Podesta and the McCanns.

It's all a bit weird, innit?

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Key partners in the global battle against child exploitation gathered today at a meeting hosted by the Department of Justice. 

Representatives from the United Kingdom, Australia met with officials from the Departments of Justice and Homeland Security, as well as representatives from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. 

An official from Canada participated in the meeting by phone.  Child exploitation is an international problem that requires global collaboration and cooperation. 

The U.S.  is a member of the Virtual Global Task Force (VGT), which is made up of law enforcement agencies from around the world who work together to fight child abuse online.

The aim of the VGT is to build an effective, international partnership of law enforcement agencies to help to protect children from online child abuse.  The U.S. representative on the VGT is the Department of Homeland Security.

Child pornography is a serious problem – one of the most serious facing the world’s law enforcement today – and growing threat.  The Internet has made it easier than ever to traffic child pornography between nations and across borders.  Images depicting the sexual assault of American children can now be found on computers not only at home but abroad; the same is true for foreign children. 

The Department of Justice is strongly committed to working with its international allies to solve this problem – to prevent the abuse of children and stop the spread of these kinds of vile images.

As part of our new National Strategy for Child Exploitation Prevention and Interdiction, the Department will be renewing its commitment to cooperation with its international allies in hopes of finding new, innovative and technology-based – solutions to this scourge.

The meeting was attended by

Neil Gaughan, Assistant Commissioner of the Australian Federal Police and Chair of the Virtual Global Task Force;

Jim Gamble, Chief Executive of the UK’s Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre,

Sunny Parmar, Canadian Police Centre for Missing and Exploited Children;

Erik Barnett, Senior Counselor to the Assistant Secretary, Immigration and Customs Enforcement;

Francey Hakes, Office of the Deputy Attorney General;

Peter Trahon, FBI; and

Ernie Allen, President and CEO of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Ernie Allen Testifies Before U.S. Congress,

Admits to Four Hundred Cases of Missing Child Fraud

Dateline: Washington, DC, 2 December 2009

Mr. Ernie Allen, President and Chief Executive Officer of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (USA) and its wholly owned affiliate, the International Centre for Missing and Exploited Children, dropped a bombshell today before the Tom Lantos Human Rights Commission of the United States Congress.

"the bombshell", in full:

EA:

"Finally, I believe we should amend the federal definition of ‘missing child’ that was established by the Missing Children’s Assistance Act of 1984 and codified at 42 U.S.C. §5772. In parental abduction cases, law enforcement may be hesitant to classify the child as ‘missing’ since the child does not technically fit within the current federal definition of ‘missing child’: a child whose whereabouts are unknown to the child’s legal custodian. Parental abduction cases are unique -- the left-behind parent may know the exact whereabouts of the ‘missing’ child but is unable to bring the child home. This problem can be solved by adding the description “or who was removed from the control of such individual's legal custodian in violation of law or judicial order” to the federal definition of ‘missing child.’ This not only reinforces law enforcement’s jurisdiction over these criminal cases, it also ensures that they will be given the same resources and support as non-family abductions. In addition, clarifying the definition of ‘missing child’ to include family-abducted children ensures that law enforcement will enter these cases into the FBI’s National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database. NCIC entry of these children is critical to ensuring that law enforcement resources are dedicated to these abductions. Approximately one-third of NCMEC’s current international abductions have not been entered into NCIC."

This official testimony appears to contain the first ever admission by any representative of the American center that a full one-third of its current cases are probable if not certain cases of missing child fraud.

That is four hundred (400) children being falsely advertised by the American center, right now, as though they were "missing".
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Yes, thank you very much @ jeanmonroe for bringing that link.

That's by no means the only good article on that site about Ernie, NCMEC, PACT etc.

Here is another good one exposing PACT as the sham it is:
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All the connections between these individuals and Missing People groups are most revealing when you study them. They all sort of link up round at the back door, so to speak.

I was hesitant about putting too many links up.

I mainly wanted people to connect the five days at Gerry had in Washington, mostly with Ernie Allen of NCMEC, it seems, with the details about Ernie Allen's high-up connections

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Verdi wrote:
Tony Bennett wrote:
The Patrons of Missing People are curious. Clff Richard was one. Stephen Fry is another. And of course Sir Richard Branson. Missing People is part of Ernie Allen's vast international misisng people organisation, ICMEC.  
I didn't know that!

To parents, “our basic message is get that [personal computer] out of the bedroom and put it in a public place and set some limits and know what your kids are doing,” said Ernie Allen, president of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children.

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I wonder where Jim Gamble, former chief executive of the CEOP, fits in with all this.  I should be very surprised if he didn't have at least a working relationship with Ernie Allen and the ICMEC, if not a personal connection.

NB:  Stephen Fry remains on the pending list waiting until further notice.
Just another one of those many coincidences. Podesta Group, which is a lobbying and a PR organisation, was set up by the Podesta Brothers and is also in Washington DC.

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Gerry was at some point introduced to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], just over the state lines in Virginia. A quick Google search shows he's been involved in busting trafficking rings and was very involved in the Elizabeth Smart case (Gerry also had contact with Edward Smart).

Do we know which hotel Gerry stayed in when in the US? He called 'Sofitel Lafayette Square' several times as well as 'Kimpton Morrison House' and 'Courtyard Washington Embassy Row'.

He also, for some reason, calls the US Embassy in Spain many times.

He was in contact with Ernie Allen as early as June.

Not totally on topic but this gives an idea of who he was in contact with, maybe someone else can make a link or two.
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April28th wrote:Gerry was at some point introduced to [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.], just over the state lines in Virginia. A quick Google search shows he's been involved in busting trafficking rings and was very involved in the Elizabeth Smart case (Gerry also had contact with Edward Smart).

Do we know which hotel Gerry stayed in when in the US? He called 'Sofitel Lafayette Square' several times as well as 'Kimpton Morrison House' and 'Courtyard Washington Embassy Row'.

He also, for some reason, calls the US Embassy in Spain many times.

He was in contact with Ernie Allen as early as June.

Not totally on topic but this gives an idea of who he was in contact with, maybe someone else can make a link or two.

IIRC Ernie Allen was involved in the McCann case as early as May 4th, probably with Jon Corner (I will check this)

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Post by Verdi 23.11.16 22:55

It's no secret that perverts with a liking for nubile flesh find employment closely connected to children.

Dame Esther Rantzen DBE, founder of the child protection charity ChildLine.  Dame Esther Rantzen, close friend of defunct serial sex abuser Sir Jimmy Savile - close friend of Sir Cliff  'Kittie' Richard, recently investigated for child sex abuse and former member of the Elm Guest House for serial sex offenders - close friend of national treasure Cilla Black OBE who died, in my opinion, under mysterious circumstances.

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Sir Jimmy Savile OBE KCSG  

It has been suggested in the past that Dame Esther Rantzen is but a gatekeeper for the unsavoury cult of global child abuse.  Whether there is any truth in the rumour I know not but it wouldn't surprise me given her close affiliation with the BBC and her wide circle of dubious chums. 

Apologies for going off on a tangent but from where I'm standing it's all part of the bigger picture.

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[You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] As far as phone records go, the only early call to the USA that I have found is on May 6th, to a 'Mark Brown', only a 1 minute 23 seconds call. Then fast forward to June for the next call, to a 'Nora' on the 14th.

The first phone record for Ernie Allen comes on June 22nd.


Of course this really means nothing given other people were pulling strings by this point.
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I have been pondering why Gerry McCann should have spent 4 nights and 5 days in Washington in July 2007, basically being shown around by the very controversial Ernie Allen.

So I’ve lifted his blog entries for 22 to 26 July from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 
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Gerry: My five days with Ernie Allen 

Day 80 – 22/07/2007 – Sunday

Spent the whole day travelling from the Algarve to Washington where I will be visiting the National and International Centers for Missing and Exploited Children and meeting politicians involved in recent legislation on missing children. The flights for our campaign manager and myself were kindly donated by an airline. [Gerry missed that bit out. Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic - T.B.]

There is a very upsetting story on the front page of a British National Newspaper today. The headline suggests that Kate and I face prosecution for neglecting our children by dining 50 yards away and checking on them regularly. We know that there has been criticism in some quarters of our actions but at the time, we felt our actions were responsible. We were essentially performing our own baby listening service although we have talked of the guilt we felt at now being there at the moment Madeleine was taken.

We have been advised that legally our behaviour was well within the bounds of responsible parenting and subsequently been assured that no action will be taken. These types of criticism, particularly at this stage, as well as being hurtful are extremely unhelpful in the search for Madeleine. From the moment we discovered Madeleine missing Kate and I have done everything in our power to try and help get her back.

Our opinion now is completely clouded by what has happened to us and of course has sent shock waves through thousands of families. The real issue is that we should not have a constant fear of abduction of our children from their bedrooms, gardens or streets for that matter. What Kate and I did was at worst naïve and no one should forget that the real criminal is the predator who has taken a completely innocent child in such a premeditated fashion. It is this act that has wreaked havoc on our family and affected millions of other people

Day 81 – 23/07/2007 – Monday 

Very busy day and I was almost asleep by the time I got back to the hotel so apologies for not posting the blog earlier. We started off by spending the morning at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). We had a tour of the NCMEC led by President Ernie Allen who has been there for 23 years and there is little he does not [sic] about missing children.

The work done at NCMEC is extremely impressive. It coordinates information for all missing children and it was the center that pushed for the implementation of the early warning missing child (AMBER) alert throughout the USA. The center was also instrumental along with the founder, John Walsh, in getting the Adam Walsh bill passed on the 25th anniversary of the young boys murder.

NCMEC officials organised a meeting with the US attorney general Gonzales at the justice department. He was already aware of Madeleine’s disappearance and has made child protection a major concern for him. I explained in a little more detail regarding Madeleine’s case and the fact that she is still missing after 81 days. He was very supportive of the campaign to keep Madeleines profile high and of the work that we are doing with NCMEC and its International division (ICMEC).

We went back to NCMEC in the afternoon and I had detailed discussions with some of the experts there regarding Madeleines disappearance. We also had a board meeting with ICMEC regarding working together on other developments in raising the profile of missing children particularly using internet resources.

Finished the day off with an interview for Americas Most Wanted who have been following Madeleines abduction almost since the beginning. The programme is actually hosted by John Walsh and has massive viewing figures of around 12 million.

Day 82- 24/07/2007 – Tuesday 

Another busy day in Washington. Started early on at NCMEC with interviews from 6.15am for the five major US TV networks morning news shows. A very serious issues programme 20-20 was also recording our visit to the America, as they will also be producing a piece on the search to find Madeleine.

Late morning we had a visit to the White House to meet with the First Lady’s deputy chief of staff Sarah Armstrong. This visit was facilitated by Lady Catherine Meyer, founder of the British charity PACT, which is an affiliate of ICMEC and has done so much to raise awareness of missing children in the UK. Mrs Bush is a strong supporter of child welfare issues and is in fact an Honorary Board member of ICMEC. They were already aware of Madeleines disappearance and I took the opportunity to fill them in on my visit to Washington, particularly the work we are doing with ICMEC and the meeting we had with the attorney general. We finished with a very quick tour of the public areas in the White House which is a very impressive building and we also met one of the Presidents Scottish terriers! Immediately following the visit I did a few interviews for the British Media in front of the White House.

After a very brief lunch it was on to Capitol Hill for meetings with politicians who have been instrumental in getting the Adam Walsh BIll and others passed. We met with Democrat congressman Nick Lampson and Republican Senator Robert Shelby who both know the board members of NCMEC very well. They were both very keen to do what they could to help find Madeleine and the support during the visit we have received has been tremendous.

I spoke to Kate and the kids, whose telephone skills are developing very quickly which is nice for me when I am away like this. Kate has stayed on in Portugal and has been keeping in touch with the police but there are no major developments to report. In the evening I managed to meet up with a friend from Glasgow who is also a cardiologist and working in the Washington area. We went for a bite to eat and it was good to sit down quietly with a familiar face for an hour or two

Day 83 – 25/07/2007 – Wednesday 

Up early this morning catching up with e-mails and phone calls as well as updating the blog. Managed another early morning run, round Washington centre this time, which is quite beautiful with grand buildings and monuments separated by wide grassy areas.

I had another meeting with another congressman Mike Rogers who is an ex-FBI agent and we distributed wristbands to Nick Lampson and some of his colleagues as well as members of NCMEC.

This afternoon we had a meeting with the British Ambassador at his residence to update him on our meetings. The Embassy itself is a stunning building almost rivalling the Whitehouse

Flying back to Portugal this evening to get back to the family. I have no doubt that this visit to Washington has been extremely productive and will really help to maintain Madeleines profile. We will continue to work closely with ICMEC who have incredible experience and energy in dealing with missing children.

Day 84 – 26/07/2007 – Thursday

Spent most of the day travelling getting back to Portugal late afternoon. It was great to be back with Kate and the kids after the short visit to Washington. It was also great to see so many pictures from the 50th day balloon launch on the website.

A lot of people have been asking what can they do to maintain the search for Madeleine. The advice we have had consistently from the beginning, and very much re-emphasised by the experience of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is to maintain a high profile for the missing child. This can be achieved by relatively simple measures such as displaying posters in prominent public places. We ask people to continue downloading posters from the website and display them at bus stations, train stations and of course take them on holiday. Kate and I would like to thank everyone who desperately wants us to be reunited with Madeleine and have helped in this regard.

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Tony Bennett wrote:I have been pondering why Gerry McCann should have spent 4 nights and 5 days in Washington in July 2007, basically being shown around by the very controversial Ernie Allen.

So I’ve lifted his blog entries for 22 to 26 July from [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] 
-  and highlighted all the references - there are many  - to Ernie Allen and his NCMEC organisation

Gerry: My five days with Ernie Allen 

Day 80 – 22/07/2007 – Sunday

Spent the whole day travelling from the Algarve to Washington where I will be visiting the National and International Centers for Missing and Exploited Children and meeting politicians involved in recent legislation on missing children. The flights for our campaign manager and myself were kindly donated by an airline. [Gerry missed that bit out. Sir Richard Branson's Virgin Atlantic - T.B.]

There is a very upsetting story on the front page of a British National Newspaper today. The headline suggests that Kate and I face prosecution for neglecting our children by dining 50 yards away and checking on them regularly. We know that there has been criticism in some quarters of our actions but at the time, we felt our actions were responsible. We were essentially performing our own baby listening service although we have talked of the guilt we felt at now being there at the moment Madeleine was taken.

We have been advised that legally our behaviour was well within the bounds of responsible parenting and subsequently been assured that no action will be taken. These types of criticism, particularly at this stage, as well as being hurtful are extremely unhelpful in the search for Madeleine. From the moment we discovered Madeleine missing Kate and I have done everything in our power to try and help get her back.

Our opinion now is completely clouded by what has happened to us and of course has sent shock waves through thousands of families. The real issue is that we should not have a constant fear of abduction of our children from their bedrooms, gardens or streets for that matter. What Kate and I did was at worst naïve and no one should forget that the real criminal is the predator who has taken a completely innocent child in such a premeditated fashion. It is this act that has wreaked havoc on our family and affected millions of other people

Day 81 – 23/07/2007 – Monday 

Very busy day and I was almost asleep by the time I got back to the hotel so apologies for not posting the blog earlier. We started off by spending the morning at the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC). We had a tour of the NCMEC led by President Ernie Allen who has been there for 23 years and there is little he does not [sic] about missing children.

The work done at NCMEC is extremely impressive. It coordinates information for all missing children and it was the center that pushed for the implementation of the early warning missing child (AMBER) alert throughout the USA. The center was also instrumental along with the founder, John Walsh, in getting the Adam Walsh bill passed on the 25th anniversary of the young boys murder.

NCMEC officials organised a meeting with the US attorney general Gonzales at the justice department. He was already aware of Madeleine’s disappearance and has made child protection a major concern for him. I explained in a little more detail regarding Madeleine’s case and the fact that she is still missing after 81 days. He was very supportive of the campaign to keep Madeleines profile high and of the work that we are doing with NCMEC and its International division (ICMEC).

We went back to NCMEC in the afternoon and I had detailed discussions with some of the experts there regarding Madeleines disappearance. We also had a board meeting with ICMEC regarding working together on other developments in raising the profile of missing children particularly using internet resources.

Finished the day off with an interview for Americas Most Wanted who have been following Madeleines abduction almost since the beginning. The programme is actually hosted by John Walsh and has massive viewing figures of around 12 million.

Day 82- 24/07/2007 – Tuesday 

Another busy day in Washington. Started early on at NCMEC with interviews from 6.15am for the five major US TV networks morning news shows. A very serious issues programme 20-20 was also recording our visit to the America, as they will also be producing a piece on the search to find Madeleine.

Late morning we had a visit to the White House to meet with the First Lady’s deputy chief of staff Sarah Armstrong. This visit was facilitated by Lady Catherine Meyer, founder of the British charity PACT, which is an affiliate of ICMEC and has done so much to raise awareness of missing children in the UK. Mrs Bush is a strong supporter of child welfare issues and is in fact an Honorary Board member of ICMEC. They were already aware of Madeleines disappearance and I took the opportunity to fill them in on my visit to Washington, particularly the work we are doing with ICMEC and the meeting we had with the attorney general. We finished with a very quick tour of the public areas in the White House which is a very impressive building and we also met one of the Presidents Scottish terriers! Immediately following the visit I did a few interviews for the British Media in front of the White House.

After a very brief lunch it was on to Capitol Hill for meetings with politicians who have been instrumental in getting the Adam Walsh BIll and others passed. We met with Democrat congressman Nick Lampson and Republican Senator Robert Shelby who both know the board members of NCMEC very well. They were both very keen to do what they could to help find Madeleine and the support during the visit we have received has been tremendous.

I spoke to Kate and the kids, whose telephone skills are developing very quickly which is nice for me when I am away like this. Kate has stayed on in Portugal and has been keeping in touch with the police but there are no major developments to report. In the evening I managed to meet up with a friend from Glasgow who is also a cardiologist and working in the Washington area. We went for a bite to eat and it was good to sit down quietly with a familiar face for an hour or two

Day 83 – 25/07/2007 – Wednesday 

Up early this morning catching up with e-mails and phone calls as well as updating the blog. Managed another early morning run, round Washington centre this time, which is quite beautiful with grand buildings and monuments separated by wide grassy areas.

I had another meeting with another congressman Mike Rogers who is an ex-FBI agent and we distributed wristbands to Nick Lampson and some of his colleagues as well as members of NCMEC.

This afternoon we had a meeting with the British Ambassador at his residence to update him on our meetings. The Embassy itself is a stunning building almost rivalling the Whitehouse

Flying back to Portugal this evening to get back to the family. I have no doubt that this visit to Washington has been extremely productive and will really help to maintain Madeleines profile. We will continue to work closely with ICMEC who have incredible experience and energy in dealing with missing children.

Day 84 – 26/07/2007 – Thursday

Spent most of the day travelling getting back to Portugal late afternoon. It was great to be back with Kate and the kids after the short visit to Washington. It was also great to see so many pictures from the 50th day balloon launch on the website.

A lot of people have been asking what can they do to maintain the search for Madeleine. The advice we have had consistently from the beginning, and very much re-emphasised by the experience of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children is to maintain a high profile for the missing child. This can be achieved by relatively simple measures such as displaying posters in prominent public places. We ask people to continue downloading posters from the website and display them at bus stations, train stations and of course take them on holiday. Kate and I would like to thank everyone who desperately wants us to be reunited with Madeleine and have helped in this regard.

How familiar and still interesting!

For starters.

“There is a very upsetting story on the front page of a British National Newspaper today. The headline suggests that Kate and I face prosecution for neglecting our children..”

I would not be surprised if Dr Amaral had in fact requested that the parents be charged with neglect (he was an experienced and decent policeman), request denied and the pertinent documents withheld.


“…50 [why not 10 or 45 or 150? – T.C.] yards…”


“We know that there has been criticism in some quarters of our actions but at the time [of the alleged abduction or thereabouts – T.C.], we felt our actions were responsible.”

“We have been advised [since the time we felt our actions were responsible – T.C.] that legally our behaviour was well within the bounds of responsible parenting…”

A seamless match of the former ‘feelings’ with the later ‘legal’ advice? Not necessarily so…

As chance would have it, I have before me an essay quoting a transcript of a dialogue which clearly indicates the official (legal) view in England on leaving children on their own (I quote four paragraphs):

From ‘Cant pay? We’ll take it away’ Ser 3 Episode 6, shown on 10/07/16 at 19.00 GMT on Channel 5 (I understand it has been televised more than once and is available to view on the internet):

(Barnes, London. Two High Court enforcement agents, Paul and Phil, arrive at a house with an Eviction Order and a High Court Writ of Possession. The front door of the house appears to be locked from the inside. Paul is talking on the phone with the tenant whom he has come to evict)

Presenter: ‘The tenant says he is not at home.’
Tenant: ‘I’ve got children in the house.’
Paul: ‘Yeah, how old are the children?’
Tenant: ‘Nine and eleven.’
Paul: ‘Your children, if they are that age, should not be left in the house on their own. I shall ring the Social Services to take care of the children…’
Presenter: ‘Concerned about the children’s safety, Paul wants to take immediate possession of the property.’


On the strength of the above dialogue, one is left certain that the unnamed person Kate Mccann refers to, when she famously alleges in her book and elsewhere to the effect that someone ‘in the know’ advised her and her husband that leaving their three children alone for a period of time had been within the bounds of responsible parenting, is not an agent [legal representative – T.C.] of the High Court.
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Post by Verdi 24.11.16 15:44

Friday 4th May 2007

By this time our friend Jon Corner, a creative director in media production in Liverpool was circulating photographs and video footage of Madeleine to the police, Interpol and broadcasting and newspaper news desks. This was in accordance with the standard advice of the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children in the US, which advocates getting an image of a missing child into the public domain as soon as possible.


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The Portuguese police were apparently reluctant early on to accept any help beyond this from their counterparts in the UK. However, in addition to the Leicestershire FLOs, they did permit forensic psychologists from CEOP, the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, and an analyst from the National Policing Improvements Agency to come to Praia da Luz the following week.

madeleine by KATE MCCANN

I'm not entirely sure what function the CEOP was expected to perform, arriving in Portugal within a week of Madeleine McCann's disappearance..

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My money's on Jim Gamble as the primary facilitator between the McCanns and  Ernie Allen, aided and abetted by the McCanns friend and close associate, Jon Corner.

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Post by Roxyroo 24.11.16 20:43

Now the story going about is that Suffolk police have confirmed that Clement Freud HAD lent out his villa to the Podesta's that week. I.m trying to find some kind of confirmation apart from the YouTube channels its on, suffice to say I don't want to be seen to be posting "fake news" in this era of Post-Truth.
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Post by Tony Bennett 24.11.16 21:02

Roxyroo wrote:Now the story going about is that Suffolk police have confirmed that Clement Freud HAD lent out his villa to the Podestas that week. I'm trying to find some kind of confirmation apart from the YouTube channels it's on, suffice to say I don't want to be seen to be posting "fake news" in this era of Post-Truth.
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@ Roxyroo     The story is a complete and utter fabrication. I traced this story back to its original dodgy 'news' source a couple of days ago and the originators provided no link whatseover.

Half of the internet or much more believes that Madeleine was abducted - and probably tens of thousands or more think that Sir Clement Freud loaned out his villa just in time for the Podesta Brothers to nip in to G5A about 9.15pm and 9.45pm on 3 May 2007 and walk past the Smiths at 10.00pm.

Next thing, someone will say Martin Smith saw John Podesta carrying Madeleine while Peter Smith saw Tony Podesta.

Or the other way round.

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Amelie McCann (aged 2): "Maddie's jammies!".  

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Post by Tucky Buzzard 24.11.16 21:36

I've only found out about so called [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] this evening but I've already seen some research linking an alleged participant in the scandal with ownership of holiday properties in Portugal. I apologise for not being able to provide a link but I've been all over the internet for the last few hours (discovering fascinating information sources I didn't know existed along the way) and I don't have it to hand at the moment.
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Post by Nina 24.11.16 22:33

Wasn't the purchase of pizzas mentioned in the very early days?Struck me as non news.

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Post by Tucky Buzzard 24.11.16 22:41

This scandal is massive right now on twitter and alternative news sites. I'd just like to add - I considered myself a man of the world but just a cursory investigation into this story has exposed me to some utterly sickening stories and I'd advise members here to bear that in mind if they are thinking of looking into it for themselves.
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Post by Tony Bennett 24.11.16 22:52

Tucky Buzzard wrote:I've only found out about so called [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.] this evening but I've already seen some research linking an alleged participant in the scandal with ownership of holiday properties in Portugal. I  apologise for not being able to provide a link but I've been all over the internet for the last few hours (discovering fascinating information sources I didn't know existed along the way) and I don't have it to hand at the moment.
Try to locate the ultimate source for each story you find about Pizzagate.

Many false ones are circulating.

It has definitely been established that in some child sexual abuse circles, 'pizza' means a young girl.

One person at the centre of the Washington Pizzagate scandal is a man called James Elefantis.

On one photo he is seen wearing a T-shirt bearing the message:

'J'aime les enfants'...

...which is French for 'I love children'.

I do not know yet if James Elefantis is his real (birth) name.

But this sure looks like a mighty co-incidence:

 J'aime les enfants     

 James Elefantis

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