Digging to start next week - UPDATE... starting today 2/6/14

Praia wrote:I just called a close friend in Luz who has a business there and they are so angry. Clients have been cancelling rentals for this Summer even up to September because of all the negative media coverage. 
How can one family cause so much grief for so many innocent people???

These days we always park down from the search area and when we were walking beside the cordoned off area last week I thought to myself well that is one area that would have been impossible to hide the signs of digging and hiding of evidence.

I am 90% sure Madeleine's body was hidden outside the village but still close by.

stillsloppingout wrote:

PeterMac wrote:It would be a dreadful irony if a dog and a pink blanket solved the case !

Impossible, of course.

One of the better descriptions of Kate , and the Brighton C**K.  

HelenMeg wrote:

kevmack wrote:

sallypelt wrote:I try not to get into debates about "what ifs", but I am going to put my head on the block on this rare occasion, as there's been something niggling me for quite a few months, and this has to do with David Payne. I still find it strange that David and Fiona weren't in the Crimewatch reconstruction. Add this to the fact that David Payne and Fiona Payne registered a new company, back in November? last year. This is the first time that David and Fiona Payne have been directors of any company. Does anyone else find the odd? Have the Payne's cracked? All speculation on my part.

I agree Sally, it struck me immediately that the Payne's had disappeared from the narrative, along with D Webster, and my first thought was that perhaps David Payne had finally talked about the issues he alluded to in his rogatory interview about things that were perhaps best left to another forum (or words to that effect) 

David Payne was indeed up to his neck in it, with his "magical visit" that lasted anywhere between 30 secs and 30 mins and I always felt that Fiona was off message when she talked about how she found it strange that Kate kept putting her fingers  underneath the twins noses, almost to check if they were breathing.

I think that the Paynes are far stronger characters than any of the rest of the tapas group, and whereas Jane, Russell, Matthew and Rachael, seemed almost to be in fear or cowed by Gerry, I don't think David and Fiona were imo and whilst we may always have imagined that Jane or Russell would be the weakest link, it is very possible that the stronger characters are the ones most likely to put an end to this sorry saga imo

Yes, tend to agree with your thinking about the stronger ones being perhaps more likely to stop this charade.
My thinking is that those of them who are less involved and played a lesser role may not be as likely to break as those who were more significantly involved.  These who played a bigger role may now be getting very worried and I think that those who feel the greater stress are more inclined to break.
Or perhaps before 'breaking' they would talk to other members  and say ' we are going to talk ... you have the chance to join us or not..'

Popcorn wrote:

ShuBob wrote:Call me naive but I don't believe the PJ and Met are doing all this just for show.

I've never found you naive, Shubob. Not when we used to discuss this case so long ago on Digital Spy, and not now.

Praia wrote:I just spoke to a Portuguese friend who has a business in Luz and she was tearful and angry. The village has tried so hard over the last 7 years to try and rebuild it's previous, positive reputation as a family destination. She said they may as well give in and move their family elsewhere even though she grew up in Luz.

sofieellis wrote:

PeterMac wrote:It would be a dreadful irony if a dog and a pink blanket solved the case !

Impossible, of course.

Or a toothbrush.

dantezebu wrote:

HelenMeg wrote:

kevmack wrote:

sallypelt wrote:I try not to get into debates about "what ifs", but I am going to put my head on the block on this rare occasion, as there's been something niggling me for quite a few months, and this has to do with David Payne. I still find it strange that David and Fiona weren't in the Crimewatch reconstruction. Add this to the fact that David Payne and Fiona Payne registered a new company, back in November? last year. This is the first time that David and Fiona Payne have been directors of any company. Does anyone else find the odd? Have the Payne's cracked? All speculation on my part.

I agree Sally, it struck me immediately that the Payne's had disappeared from the narrative, along with D Webster, and my first thought was that perhaps David Payne had finally talked about the issues he alluded to in his rogatory interview about things that were perhaps best left to another forum (or words to that effect) 

David Payne was indeed up to his neck in it, with his "magical visit" that lasted anywhere between 30 secs and 30 mins and I always felt that Fiona was off message when she talked about how she found it strange that Kate kept putting her fingers  underneath the twins noses, almost to check if they were breathing.

I think that the Paynes are far stronger characters than any of the rest of the tapas group, and whereas Jane, Russell, Matthew and Rachael, seemed almost to be in fear or cowed by Gerry, I don't think David and Fiona were imo and whilst we may always have imagined that Jane or Russell would be the weakest link, it is very possible that the stronger characters are the ones most likely to put an end to this sorry saga imo

Yes, tend to agree with your thinking about the stronger ones being perhaps more likely to stop this charade.
My thinking is that those of them who are less involved and played a lesser role may not be as likely to break as those who were more significantly involved.  These who played a bigger role may now be getting very worried and I think that those who feel the greater stress are more inclined to break.
Or perhaps before 'breaking' they would talk to other members  and say ' we are going to talk ... you have the chance to join us or not..'

If there was one member of the T9 that had more to gain than lose from the ending of this sorry saga, it has to be David Payne.
Provided that he was not responsible in anyway for Madeleines demise that is.
I think GA has played a blinder by pointing the finger in that direction. With all the innuendoes of liking to bathe little girls and promoting the Gaspar's statements Payne has a choice between living with this cloud over his head for the rest of his life or speaking about what he knows. And he knows something, he told us so.
So if there has been one person to break the pact I agree it must be him.

Praia wrote:IIRC Silvia Baptista said it was the Paynes who were hysterical not the McCanns on the night of 3 May.

The fact they were not named on Crimewatch was a huge clue but then I think of Fiona Payne in Lisbon at court with Ms Healy. God FP loves herself, she is so bloody smug. The Paynes also stayed in OC for longer than the other "friends".

ShuBob wrote:

Popcorn wrote:

ShuBob wrote:Call me naive but I don't believe the PJ and Met are doing all this just for show.

I've never found you naive, Shubob. Not when we used to discuss this case so long ago on Digital Spy, and not now.

  

Thanks Popcorn   

I wonder if there's a thread on DS discussing the latest activity. I just don't understand that forum. They allow all sorts of discussion but mention "McCann" and the padlock is out   

jeanmonroe wrote:Questions to PM

Would, where they are 'searching', be an ideal place a 'crim' WOULD bury 'something'?   No.
And in the very limited time, on the night, before the place was crawling with police, searchers, dogs etc.,?   Even more No (If Hobs will permit me )
I'd have thought if 'something' were 'buried' there it would have been 'discovered' PDQ. (imo)   Quite

fizzbomb1 wrote:Former Met Police search advisor Keith Farquharson , interviewd on sky news 13.35 pm 

asked about the search , "well the  team will be using ground penetrating  radar , this won't show up bones , but then we will bring in specialist dogs" , well they did that seven years ago !!!!!!!

Praia wrote:I actually have a good quality wristband somewhere! I was at the First anniversary Service in Luz and the Hubbard's eldest son gave them out before it started. It was amusing to see people like me who put it away in their bag / pocket straight away and the other "parent's supporters"
who eagerly put them on.

I saw the McCanns in Baptista supermarket actually trying to sell them in June 2007. My OH dragged me out before I got myself locked up for GBH.

Truthmustout wrote:Our newschannel is sending the digging live, not sure it will work outside Norway, but there might be other newschannels from other countries sending it live as well.

Link to the live cams :
http://www.tv2.no/2014/06/02/nyheter/krim/5656925

Update: Seems like they are finished for the day, everyone just got in their cars and drove away from the place..