CRIMEWATCH RECONSTRUCTION - However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.

Woofer wrote:Just when you think they can`t get away with anymore of this farce, we get this.

I get the feeling the Daily Mail is on a wind-up, saying things like the McCanns have banned the reconstruction from taking place in Portugal - no one can ban the police from doing an investigation how they want, unless it Crimewatch they`re banning and not the police.

Also the Mail`s use of the words `the McCanns have allowed`etc.

Perhaps the Mail are trying to provoke the public`s anger by getting everyone to think the McCanns have more power than they actually do.

ultimaThule wrote:

Woofer wrote:Just when you think they can`t get away with anymore of this farce, we get this.

I get the feeling the Daily Mail is on a wind-up, saying things like the McCanns have banned the reconstruction from taking place in Portugal - no one can ban the police from doing an investigation how they want, unless it Crimewatch they`re banning and not the police.

Also the Mail`s use of the words `the McCanns have allowed`etc.

Perhaps the Mail are trying to provoke the public`s anger by getting everyone to think the McCanns have more power than they actually do.

Interestingly, the Fail didn't do it's usual trick of severly restricting/limiting comments on one of its McCann puffs pieces yesterday, Woofer:  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2445092/Was-Madeleine-McCann-abducted-burglars-disturbed-holiday-flat.html

candyfloss wrote:Oh my goodness look at this.....


'The pieces of the jigsaw are now fitting together': Missing Maddie's parents 'greatly encouraged' by new mobile phone evidence as probe spreads to Holland and Germany


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[*]Scotland Yard trawled calls made by people staying in the holiday resort

"Robert Murat turned his mobile back on after a long silent interval at 2320 on 3 May. One of his first calls was from Sergi Malinka, his computer guru. But at least one hour before KM raised the alarm, Sergi and his friends were chatting profusely by phone, leading me to wonder whether word of “something” had got out before the official announcement by Kate.

The vital piece of evidence, however, is this: RM’s mobile phone silence had begun at 1545 on 2 May, and ended at 2320 on 3 May just after KM’s shout. That’s 31h 35m of silence. Gerry had been taking numerous calls made to his voicemail box on 2 May, and effectively the last of these was at 1549. He postponed listening to this until around 2015, at which point he turned off his mobile. He took just one incoming call at 1224 on 3 May, then his mobile fell silent again until 2314. Since he didn’t make a single outgoing call during that period, and used voicemail to eliminate any possibility of identification of his callers, we can say that his period of silence (compare the figure with Murat’s) was of 31h 25m.

This is inexplicable unless you come to the conclusion that GM and RM were in cahoots, and the silence was akin to the military golden rule, of communications silence to avoid any possibility of compromise before the action kicks off.
I then consider in more detail those 12 voicemail messages which GM received on 2 May. The PJ never found out who they came from, but by any standards it was a busy eight hours for Gerry, no doubt with pen and paper in hand to take down detailed instructions and timings. As I’ve said, he postponed listening to the last two for some reason. KM’s claim that Gerry was so busy at work that he had to keep in touch with his department, is given the lie by the fact that he didn’t actually speak to anybody, and never responded with a single outgoing call.

Putting all of this together, I’m satisfied that the tragic event had not only taken place by 0800 on 2 May, but that sufficient time had passed between the event and 0800 on 2 May for Gerry to start to receive detailed plans beginning at that time.
So theoretically, death around 2345 on 1 May is still possible, although we have no indication of frantic phone communications during that night as we would expect. Which leads us neatly to those six contacts (texts or calls?) on KM’s mobile from 2216 – 2228 on that evening. (According to Mrs Fenn’s account, the crying of Madeleine started at 2230).

Might that really be the time of the tragedy? I doubt it. Look at it this way: wouldn’t we have expected some normal, “chatty” contact between the two McCanns and their Tapas chums, or with family, on 1 May and 30 April? We have absolutely none. 48 hours without mobile contact. I believe that represents 48 hours during which something very concealed was going on. And then suddenly Kate has to make six contacts in 12 minutes just before the long period when, according to Mrs Fenn , Maddie was crying. I don’t believe there is any logic which points to the tragic event happening at that time.

So I return to investigate the calls made by RM’s mobile, and in a 14 minute period between 2200 and 2214 I find six texts apparently being transmitted between his mobile and Michaela Walczuch’s. Now, as an inveterate ex-communications-intelligence jobsworth, I look at those bursts of six messages beginning at 2200 and ending at 2228 and I say “something fishy’s going on here.”
Putting this together with RM’s and Gerry’s coinciding 31-hour silences of the following day, I believe that Murat’s and Walczuch’s mobiles were being used to transmit stuff which was vital to the cover-up of a tragedy which had happened before 2200 on 1 May.

Going back still further, it can be noted that RM booked his flight on 30 April, that the same day was highlighted by phone communications between Jenny Murat and Exeter, and that he flew to Faro and arrived at PdL around 1130 on 1 May. And we should add to the mix an unexplained call to Jane Tanner at the ungodly hour of 0415 on 29 April.

That’s about 600 pages of the phone thread condensed into little more than one page"

Grande Finale wrote:I Can't Beleive I'm Hearing this.............

Is it true that Ian brady and Rose west are to play the HOLY couple in the crime watch panto ??

Woofer wrote:jd - have you posted that info on a separate thread here for discussion?

Grande Finale wrote:I Can't Beleive I'm Hearing this.............

Is it true that Ian brady and Rose west are to play the HOLY couple in the crime watch panto ??

jeanmonroe wrote:marconi wrote:

Gerry's expression last Wednesday gave me hope. His trolleybag too.
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I didn't see K with him last Wednesday!

  

marconi wrote:

jeanmonroe wrote:marconi wrote:

Gerry's expression last Wednesday gave me hope. His trolleybag too.
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I didn't see K with him last Wednesday!

  

she wasn't in Lisbon, as far as I know.
My hope is that she had already gone to Algarve, for the reconstruction.

jd wrote:

Woofer wrote:jd - have you posted that info on a separate thread here for discussion?

Its part of SY's new super investigation into the mobile phone calls which the mccanns are 'greatly encouraged' by....SY should be investigating all the mccanns & their friends highly suspicious mobile phone calls too. These ones lead more to the truth

marconi wrote:If it will be a regular reconstruction, an abductor carrying Madeleine through the narrow open window, going down the street passing by the Smiths, etc etc,

jeanmonroe wrote:22 May 2007

Taking questions from the press, Gerry McCann is asked: "Did you know Robert Murat?"

He replies: "I'm not going to comment on that".
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ANYONE else would have replied:

'Yes, i know Robert Murat'
or
'No, i don't know Robert Murat.'

Not Gerry though!

sharonl wrote:We are told that the Portuguese police have cleared the McCanns and that they are working alongside officers from Scotland Yard.  If any of this is true, what possible reason would there be for the PJ to be angered by a reconstruction?

Unless of course the McCanns have other reasons for not wanting the PJ to see this, which of course they will, even if it is with Spanish subtitles.

Or have the McCanns been prevented from showing this in Portugal?

ultimaThule wrote:'Substantive' is something solid -  such as a brick wall or a fact which can be proved without doubt, marconi. 

'Insubstantive' is something such as the cotton wool I feel as if I'm punching to get through to the truth hidden behind McCann & Co's web of lies.

However, Kate and Gerry have banned the re-enactment of their daughter’s disappearance from taking place in Portugal through fear of angering the country’s police.
Instead they have allowed filming to go ahead in neighbouring Spain, with actors playing the roles of the anguished couple.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2446173/The-pieces-jigsaw-fitting-Missing-Maddies-parents-greatly-encouraged-new-mobile-phone-evidence-probe-spreads-Holland-Germany.html#ixzz2guOqyF6R
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marconi wrote:

ultimaThule wrote:'Substantive' is something solid -  such as a brick wall or a fact which can be proved without doubt, marconi. 

'Insubstantive' is something such as the cotton wool I feel as if I'm punching to get through to the truth hidden behind McCann & Co's web of lies.

thank you, ultima Thule


it could be the bullet they extracted from their foot, after having shot it in June 2011.