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Post by PeterMac 28.06.24 8:54

Repeat of an extract from a letter sent to SurreyPol a long time ago
" . . . . 
MWT bills himself as an “expert in Child abuse”, and refers back to his service in the Surrey Police, when it seems he was a DC for a short time and a Family Liaison Officer, also for a short time. [3]
 
It is recorded that he was prosecuted for Blackmail, one assumes by Surrey Officers, and although acquitted left the Force in 1990 under circumstances which he has never explained.  From what we can gather he completed only 11 or 12 years service.  Strangely he claims to have been re-employed by Surrey Police as a DC for one year in 2009, and also claims to have worked whilst in the police on child protection variously for 12 years, and for 20 years.  [1]  [2]  [3]  [4]  [5]
 
You may be aware that he is currently claiming that he single-handedly brought the Savile case to the notice of the public. He has pontificated on several other cases and has said that he is engaged in viewing Child Pornography on the internet “for research purposes”.   He has not made it clear that he is among the persons authorised to do so.   [5]
 
But one of his more damaging claims is that whilst he was in Surrey Police he ‘led’ a number of murder, and national paedophile investigations. [3]   [6]
 
And it is those remarks which cause me concern.
 
I am sure that Surrey, like all other forces, operates along ACPO guidelines for the investigation of serious crime, allocating even “simple”  murders to DI or DCI, overseen by Det Supt, and that a National Paedophile enquiry would be co-ordinated by the DChSupt, reporting to the ACC Crime and would be on a joint Inter-force Liaison group specially set up for the purpose.


For Mark Williams-Thomas to represent that he personally ”led” such enquires must cause the general public of your Force area to doubt whether you have been giving a proper professional service, and I am confident you would agree that this is potentially damaging for the image of Surrey Police and of the Service as a whole.
Etc


"References
 
1          http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jimmy-savile-investigator-mark-                                williams-thomas-1509838#ixzz2SuTADf4z
 
"As a police officer I worked in the area of child protection for 20 years".
 
2          http://hardcastleintel.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/criminal-fraud-on-massive-                 scale.html
 
Let us look at just one of those who has driven the hysteria over Sir James Savile and who claims he "exposed " the truth in his TV tabloid show "Exposure" when what he actually did was present a series of claims.
Mark Williams-Thomas is described repeatedly as a "child protection expert". Even Australia's respected ABC program 4 Corners introduced him as such.
He has no justification for making the claim and offering himself up as an expert on how to protect children.
The truth about Mark Williams-Thomas is this  he was a uniformed police officer on the beat for 9 years with the Surrey Police.
He graduated to Detective Constable - a role he held for only nine months before he left the Surrey Police under unexplained circumstances.
No detective constable in any police force around the world conducts police investigations. Rather they are part of a team with an Inspector (at the least) overseeing an inquiry. A DC could be answering phones, chasing up addresses, sitting in a car with another officer watching a suspect.
Yet the media has blithely accepted Williams-Thomas exaggerated claim that implies he was a major investigator on a number of important cases including the jailing of celebrity Jonathan King who oddly, was not the subject of any investigation until after Williams-Thomas left the force.
It would be prudent not to ask Williams-Thomas former colleagues at the Surrey Police what they think of him taking all the credit for the team's hard work.
This eight-month former DC then popped up with a company "advising' on child protection, a subject of which he had no specific knowledge of apart from his own self appointed, non-existent qualifications.
Two companies he set up were closed down.
 
3          http://www.menspeakers.co.uk/speakerdetail.asp?speakerid=212
 
"Bringing with him his wealth of experience as hands on former Detective, Mark Williams-Thomas is able to provide a new dimension to many of the criminological problems facing today's society – for example, how the police investigate major crime and the risk management of sex offenders in the community.”   His expertise includes in particular risk management and assessment of offenders and he now owns his own Child Protection and Risk Management Consultancy - WT Associates Ltd. Prior to setting up WT Associates in 2005, Mark was a police Detective specialising in major crime. He worked on or was in charge of some of the largest paedophile and murder investigations in the country, as well as being was one of only 10 specialist Family Liaison officers during his time in the police. Mark is also completing a Masters in Criminology at the University of Central England."
 
 
4          http://www.theguardian.com/media/2013/feb/24/mark-williams-thomas-                               jimmy-savile?CMP=twt_fd
 
He began his police career in Surrey in 1989, where he was a detective and family liaison officer. He launched the high-profile investigation into the singer and record and TV producer Jonathan King in 2000, leading to his conviction in 2001 for abusing boys, and led a local inquiry into paedophilia.
Williams-Thomas has described himself as a "doer" during his 11 years in the force and was once told by a superior that he was a "nightmare to manage".
 
5          http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/mark-williams-thomas-ma-pg-dip/3/884/2b5
 
Child Protection Expert & Criminologist
TV Presenter/Media
September 2005 – Present (8 years)
 
Consultant
Child Protection Consultant
2005 – 2011 (6 years)
 
Detective
Surrey Police
Public Company; 1001-5000 employees; Law Enforcement industry
2009 – 2010 (1 year)
 
[? ? ?]
 
 6         http://williams-thomas.co.uk/To%20Catch%20a%20Paedophile
 
I've spent the past 18 months shadowing the officers of Scotland Yard's Paedophile Unit and, despite being a former detective with more than 12 years of experience in child protection, I've been horrified by what I've seen.
It's not just the appalling nature of the photographic images that so alarms me; it's the number of them.
 
 
 7         http://www.williams-thomas.co.uk/
 
Mark Williams Thomas (M.A) - TV Presenter, Criminologist & Child Protection Expert
Mark is a former police detective who has far-reaching experience of working at the centre of high profile investigations.
During Mark's police service, he specialised in child protection and major crime and he is renowned throughout the UK's police forces as well as the national media for his expertise in these areas.      
 


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Post by Amy Dean 28.06.24 9:11

Of all the buffoons who came out of the woodwork with the McCann case, MWT is the most memorable, continuing with ever more stupid escapades since then. 

How I wish we knew why he left the police for an uncertain future when he had a young family to support.
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Post by PeterMac 28.06.24 10:43

Amy Dean wrote:Of all the buffoons who came out of the woodwork with the McCann case, MWT is the most memorable, continuing with ever more stupid escapades since then. 
How I wish we knew why he left the police for an uncertain future when he had a young family to support.
He was arrested and charged with Blackmail, and acquitted.  
Which means there was not enough evidence to convict Beyond a ReasonableDoubt, NOT that there was no evidence.
He will have been suspended pending trial for along time.
Then the trial, then Annual leave- which is normal in these circumstances because yo cant take leave whilst suspended, and then return to work.
To be met by the critical gaze of erstwhile colleagues . . .  

I have seen colleagues walk after this happens,   It is not unusual.

Promotion even if qualified, is unlikely.

But at base he is a Walter Mitty, hence the 'exaggerated" = Lying CV and the claims to have done things which he clearly did not, and to be someone he clearly is not
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Post by PeterMac 02.07.24 9:15

It seems MWT's three days were not enough and he is now calling on them to "bring in a team or experts".  [I'm not making this up.  © J Tanner]

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/madeleine-mccann-cop-urges-jay-33139153
"A retired detective who investigated Madeleine McCann and Nicola Bulley's disappearance has urged missing Jay Slater's family to fund a private search following Spain's decision to call off the search. On Sunday, June 30, the search for Jay entered its 14th day, with Tenerife's Civil Guard confirming they were halting all attempts to find the 19-year-old, from Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire.
Jay was last seen two weeks ago when he informed a friend he was walking back to his digs after missing a bus - a journey that would take around 11 hours on foot. Former British cop Mark Williams-Thomas, who is working alongside Jay's family in Tenerife, revealed he advised them to bring in a team of experts to carry out their own private search to continue the hunt.

"I have advised the family to use the GoFundMe money to bring in a large team of experts to flood the area from where we know Jay last was." The online fundraiser, which was set up by Jay's close pal Lucy Mae Law, 18, and is titled 'Get Jay Slater home' last night reached nearly £44,000.
Earlier this week, Jay's mother Debbie Duncan, 55, confirmed the money would begin to be withdrawn from the GoFundMe to pay for food and accommodation for Jay's family to stay in Tenerife, and to fly more loved ones out to the island to sustain the search.
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Post by Amy Dean 02.07.24 9:57

I'm so disappointed that MWT (alias Monumental Witless T*at) didn't solve the case within an hour. Perhaps he can now enlist the help of Donal MacIntyre - who could ever forget this?

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Post by Silentscope 02.07.24 11:54

‘This could not be the work of an opportunistic Drifter’

But 17 years later it was?

That Fly Donal brushed away as he spoke no doubt smelt something too.

BS.most likely.
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Post by PeterMac 03.07.24 12:07

IN the Jay case the MSM, and by extension MWT and others seem to be missing, or deliberately refusing to address some of the known facts.

Start with
https://www.reddit.com/r/JaySlater/comments/1dniv3s/everything_we_know_about_the_2_men_he_went_back/

https://www.reddit.com/r/JaySlater/comments/1dm4ig0/jay_slater_scam/

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/jay-slater-missing-dark-side-213647894.html

And best of all". "I got a Snapchat about 10 minutes after I got off the plane saying ‘Kiss goodbye to your boy, you’re never going to see him again, he owes me a lot of money,’ 

The two black men from Luton rented the AirB&B for three days, well known to locals  "Johnny Vegas " !!!  but apparently did not go to the Rave

"The two men are well known to Spanish police."

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Post by Amy Dean 03.07.24 12:50

If the two men are well-known to the Spanish police - which I can only assume means they have criminal records - would they be allowed to return to Spain with no problems?
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Post by Liz Eagles 03.07.24 14:50

Amy Dean wrote:I'm so disappointed that MWT (alias Monumental Witless T*at) didn't solve the case within an hour. Perhaps he can now enlist the help of Donal MacIntyre - who could ever forget this?

I can't bear to watch Donal. He and M.W.T. (my waffling tripe) are everything that is wrong with journalistic sensationalism for personal profit imo.
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Post by PeterMac 04.07.24 9:22

As the comments on the article show, all this has been in the public domain on the internet Social Media for a long time, but the MSM censor it and call anyone who  speaks about it "Armchair detectives" and "Trolls".
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Post by Liz Eagles 04.07.24 12:34

I have just watched a YouTube interview by My Waffling Twaddle where he states categorically that Spanish Police in the disappearance of Jay Slater have refused the assistance of Lancashire Police. He then goes on to say how he would have conducted the case. He is a liar.

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Post by Liz Eagles 04.07.24 12:49

There is absolutely no way Spanish or UK police would divulge any information to Mwt.

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Post by Cake Lover 04.07.24 13:00

Horrible, horrible man.
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Post by Liz Eagles 04.07.24 13:52

Cake Lover wrote:Horrible, horrible man.
Yup. Horrible man wearing a pink bracelet in interviews. I bet he wears something more technologically advanced on his left wrist when promoting himself on other platforms.
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Post by Amy Dean 04.07.24 14:33

I wondered if that was a leftover from the days of the "good quality wristbands" that the McCanns sold to the gullible.
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Post by Amy Dean 07.07.24 17:48

https://x.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1809891597972082723

Well, he has actually spoken to one of the men, that's a surprise.
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Post by Liz Eagles 08.07.24 12:37

Amy Dean wrote:https://x.com/mwilliamsthomas/status/1809891597972082723

Well, he has actually spoken to one of the men, that's a surprise.
Speaking from an undisclosed location resembling a cave like shack, wearing warm togs and calling to his team to crack on with his investigation. Forgive my cynicism but as Peter Mac has already pointed out, the man has no bona fide credentials.
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Post by Amy Dean 08.07.24 12:57

Perhaps that's all he can afford for his accommodation as he's working for the family pro bono!
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Post by Liz Eagles 08.07.24 13:03

Amy Dean wrote:Perhaps that's all he can afford for his accommodation as he's working for the family pro bono!
Send him a message and ask him then.
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Post by Liz Eagles 08.07.24 13:21

Peter Bleksley is now on Talk TV saying the Tenerife police are corrupt.
He says they are either incapable or unwilling to solve this case.
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Post by Liz Eagles 09.07.24 15:56

Watching the many and varied Jay Slater YouTube stuff with the usual pundits spouting the usual bullypoo, it struck me that perhaps there is a reason to repatriate/stick back on a plane those who are involved in drug running. You never know that far from being let off without sufficient public questioning to satisfy the media there is possibly a collaborative effort to get these people back to UK for questioning.

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Post by Jill Havern 15.07.24 15:37

Body is found in hunt for missing teenager Jay Slater as Spanish police say 'young man' is likely to have suffered 'an accident or fall' in remote mountainous part of Tenerife


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13635765/Body-hunt-missing-teenager-Jay-Slater.html

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Post by Amy Dean 15.07.24 17:19

At least the family has closure.
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Post by Liz Eagles 15.07.24 17:38

It's so sad a teenager's life has been wiped out. It remains to be seen how m.w.t. will claim to have solved the case...or will he make a doco on drug fuelled raves on Tenerife. Either way he will need to get some mileage out of this. Jmo

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